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Flo-Rida
03-10-2009, 02:26 PM
MIAMI -- Dwyane Wade for MVP? Admit it. You're starting to consider it, after another stunning performance Monday night when Miami's rejuvenated star pick-pocketed John Salmons in the final seconds of double overtime, then hoisted a running 3-pointer as the buzzer sounded for the win over Chicago. Wade finished with 48 points, 12 assists and 4 steals and so thoroughly controlled the game, his friend LeBron James sent him postgame props in a text message.

Wade continues to nearly single-handedly coax the Heat into the thick of the Eastern Conference playoff picture, a remarkable turnaround from last season when his team won just 15 games and it would have been a cruel prank to suggest Wade belonged among the league's elite.

When Wade is feeling right, he is one of the most devastating pick-and-roll players in the game, bursting to the basket, as Kobe Bryant described it, "like a bat out of hell that nobody can catch.''

But Bryant wasn't talking about Wade in January 2008. Nobody was. The Miami Heat, less than two years removed from their first NBA championship, had faltered so quickly and so thoroughly that even their mounting losses were no longer noteworthy. As Wade struggled to overcome a dislocated shoulder and arthroscopic knee surgery, which stripped him of his trademark explosiveness, the Heat dropped 15 in a row, then 26 out of 27. The NBA merely yawned.

Miami -- and D-Wade -- had become irrelevant.

"I can't believe how quickly we don't matter,'' he told then-assistant coach Eric Spoelstra.

On Christmas Day last season against Cleveland, Wade maneuvered through the key and tried to elevate over LeBron James, his trusted friend and ardent rival. But Wade couldn't manufacture the lift he needed, and James swatted Wade's shot away like a nettlesome house fly.

"You all right?" James asked Wade as they ran down the court.

"I don't have it,'' Wade said. "I'm hurt.''

"You gotta sit out, man,'' James told him.

"I can't,'' Wade said. After the game, James texted him with three words of advice: Shut it down.

"He wasn't D-Wade,'' James said. "You could tell by his game.''

James paused to consider what has transpired in the 15 months since that holiday encounter.

"Let me tell you something,'' he said. "I wouldn't want to test him now.''Ask the Toronto Raptors whether Wade is feeling better. He dropped 42 points and eight assists on them Friday, then 24 hours later submitted 25 points, 12 assists and four steals in a loss to James' Cavs. The week before, he had rallied the Heat from a 16-point deficit against the Knicks by torching them for 46 points -- 24 in the fourth quarter. Factor in his 31 points and 16 assists against Detroit on Feb. 24 and his 50 points against Orlando two days before that, and no wonder the league's top scorer has aroused the interest of the same fan base that ignored him a year ago.

Wade isn't delusional. He knows the league MVP award has been handicapped as a two-man race between LeBron and Kobe, but after promising he wouldn't campaign for his own remarkable resurgence, he finally said last week he felt he merited consideration.

"It's been a long road back,'' Wade said. "I'm just grateful people are recognizing what I've done.''

Count James among the growing number of NBA observers who believe Wade belongs in the MVP conversation.

"To me,'' James said, "the way you judge an MVP is if you take a guy off their team, who struggles the most? Like last year. If you took Kobe off the Lakers or Chris Paul off the Hornets, who's struggling the most? It's the Hornets, right? But everyone has their own set of rules. Other people look at it as an individual thing. They go for numbers. Now, if you were looking at strictly the team last year, then that means either Paul Pierce or Kevin Garnett should have won it.

"So I don't know what the [MVP] voters want. But whatever they're looking for, I'm pretty sure D-Wade has it.''

"I'd make the same case for Dwyane that people used to make for me when I was on a team that didn't have a lot of talent and we still managed to get to the playoffs,'' Bryant said. "People don't realize how difficult it is to do literally everything to get your team in.''

In Wade's case, that means leading his team in scoring, assists, steals and minutes. It means corralling a young nucleus of Michael Beasley, Mario Chalmers and Daequan Cook (with Joel Anthony and Chris Quinn in smaller roles) that averages 22.8 years old and flounders without him on the floor.

The night before the Heat's Feb. 21 game with Philadelphia, Wade was watching game film and noted his energy level had slipped a little. The tendinitis in his knee tends to flare up with heavy minutes, so he texted Spoelstra, now Miami's head coach, and asked the coach to consider paring his minutes back to 36-38 a game.



I don't know what the [MVP] voters want. But whatever they're looking for, I'm pretty sure D-Wade has it.


-- LeBron James

Here's why that's close to impossible. After Wade helped Miami build a 20-10 lead over the Sixers, he took a well-deserved breather. When he returned 3 minutes and 53 seconds later, Philly was winning 26-22.

"Hey!'' Wade admonished his young teammates as he returned to the court. "Get your heads on straight.''

Wade willingly left all the speeches and the noise and the motivational stuff to Shaquille O'Neal, Antoine Walker, Gary Payton and Alonzo Mourning during their 2006 championship run, even though he led the team in points, assists, steals and 3-point shooting and was second only to O'Neal in blocks during the Finals.

That title team was built for the moment, and when Spoelstra walked into the gym the following September to check on the progress of the team, there wasn't a single player there.

"We celebrated our championship a little too long,'' Spoelstra said.

Wade was not immune to that. He basked in the glow of his new celebrity, frequenting the most exclusive Miami hot spots and enjoying the buzz that comes with being the Finals MVP. He was 24 years old, and he had it all: a championship ring, a beautiful wife and the instant respect of his NBA peers.

The thrill was gone as quickly as it had come. He injured his shoulder and couldn't shake the nagging tendinitis in his knee. Miami "defended'' its title by getting swept by the Chicago Bulls in the first round of the playoffs the following spring. Then, in 2007-08, the team unraveled as coach Pat Riley questioned O'Neal's commitment and conditioning, and the big fella claimed Riley used him as a scapegoat for an aging, crumbling nucleus.

Wade attempted to straddle the thin line of pledging solidarity to a teammate and loyalty to the coach who had drafted him. It was an optimal moment to exert some leadership, to take a stand, but Wade deferred.

"I wasn't comfortable with it,'' he said.

By March 2008, O'Neal was gone, the Heat were still losing and Wade's knee was still aching.

The Heat shut him down, then flew in an OssaTron shock wave treatment machine to increase the blood flow to his ailing knee. They hooked him up to the machine, which, according to Quinn (who had the procedure done on his foot), "is like putting your finger in an electric socket and leaving it there for 30 minutes.''

In late spring, Wade went to see acclaimed conditioning expert Tim Grover, Michael Jordan's former trainer, who immediately began bending and extending his knee in ways that made him anxious. Grover, who had worked with Wade in his rookie season, was startled by the change in the kid's demeanor.

"He seemed to have lost quite a bit of his confidence,'' Grover said.

For five weeks, Wade toiled with Grover, doing basketball skills, conditioning drills and rehabilitation treatment. In the sixth week, he called James and Paul and asked them to join him in Chicago.

"I need to see where I am,'' he said.

The trio of NBA stars scrimmaged with some of Grover's other clients. Wade was initially cautious, but when Paul threw an alley-oop lob to him near the rim, he did what came naturally.

"He went up and got it,'' Paul said.

"OK, he's back,'' James declared as D-Wade jammed the ball through.

The final test required Wade to stand on top a 4-foot box. When Grover gave him the signal, Wade jumped as high as he could, pulled his knees up to his chest, then landed on the floor. By Grover's calculations, the force with which Wade landed was akin to being dropped in a free fall from 10 feet in the air.

"I knew if the muscles in his legs were strong enough to stick the landing, he'd be fine,'' Grover said.


Dwyane Wade learned about leadership while with Kobe and LeBron in Beijing.
Wade flew to Beijing, happily served as a super sub and led the U.S. in scoring on the way to Olympic gold. He observed Bryant and James carefully, knowing that when he returned to Miami, he would be expected to exhibit some leadership of his own.

Bryant shared his knowledge by pulling players aside and quietly discussing it one on one. Then there was James, the most vocal leader Wade had ever seen, barking out orders on the defensive end of the floor like a middle linebacker in the NFL.

"I don't have that in me,'' Wade fretted. "Then don't fake it,'' Bryant told him. "You can't be someone you're not. There are different ways to lead. I'm not LeBron. I'm not going to run around at 100 miles per hour. I have to do it my way, and so do you.''

When Wade returned to South Beach, Spoelstra noted a subtle shift. Wade always had been the first one in line for drills, but now he was calling out players who didn't toe the line. The young guys responded. Their enthusiasm was contagious, refreshing.

"They bring so much spirit,'' Spoelstra said. "At times we need a bowl of Ritalin, but there's no doubt Dwyane has fed off their energy.''

Wade's future is connected to players like Beasley, who Riley (now the team president) says could be the most offensively gifted player he's ever seen.

"If Beasley averaged 30 minutes a night, he'd score 24 points a game,'' Riley said. "If he played 40 minutes, he'd lead the league in scoring.

"Now, he might give up 30 on the other end. There's a lot of things right there, but a lot of things wrong, too.''

When Beasley's defense faltered and his minutes dwindled, Wade quietly pulled him aside the way Bryant did with him in Beijing. The message: Be patient.

"I've been 'the man' my whole life,'' Beasley said. "I've never had to take a back seat to anyone.

"When D-Wade sees me getting discouraged, he tells me, 'I need you.' Sometimes I need to hear that.''

Here's the irony: Wade really does need them. Even with his gaudy stats and his new 225-pound frame with 6 percent body fat, this has not been a dream season. His personal life is in shambles, the result of a marriage gone horribly sour and embarrassingly public.

There have been accusations by his estranged wife, Siohvaughn Wade, of infidelity, sexual misconduct and drug use, prompting Wade to counter with a defamation suit. He remains in a bitter custody dispute over his two young sons. He acknowledges he's made mistakes, "but they are private things I shouldn't have to talk about with everyone,'' he said.

The effect it's had, Riley said, is obvious, but the mental resolve Wade has demonstrated has allowed him to play on. Being a franchise player, Riley reminded him, means owning up to your actions.

"He feels he's been wronged by a lot of what's been said," Riley said. "These kinds of stories can be insidious. But I told him he also needs to take responsibility for the things he is culpable for.''

Before Riley acquired veteran center Jermaine O'Neal from Toronto, he flew the player in for a private meeting and said he expected a commitment to the low-post game and a rededication to conditioning. Then Riley asked Wade what he thought.

"Bring him in,'' Wade said. "We'll make it work.''

"It was a great show of his leadership,'' Riley said. "Reminded me of Magic [Johnson].''

With Jermaine O'Neal in the lineup, the Heat present a more balanced offense that opens up possibilities for Wade that haven't been there since Shaq was at his peak with Miami.

A year ago, if you had elicited an honest response from Wade, he would have told you it was time to seriously contemplate a change of scenery when his contract expires in 2010. While he'd be foolish to eliminate that as an option, he clearly has been rejuvenated by his teammates. They are young and loose and free -- just like his game again. Along with being healthy, Wade has honed his midrange game and his ball distribution.

"It used to be, 'OK, let's take away his drive and let him shoot it,''' Cleveland coach Mike Brown said. "Now it's, 'Hey, let's take away his drive and pray he misses it.'''

The young Heat players have helped Wade set up a return to the postseason, but the MVP hardware might have to wait until the Heat mature into contenders.

"It's all right,'' Wade said. "I've always said the only MVP I really care about is the one you get in the Finals.''

Wade already has been there, done that, yet he is no longer a wide-eyed kid content to lead by example.

"This time,'' D-Wade said, "it's on me.''

Jackie MacMullan is a columnist for ESPN.com.

jag
03-10-2009, 02:30 PM
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A wheelchair....really?

I'm sorry, but i can't stand the guy.

tlongII
03-10-2009, 02:32 PM
It's good to see DWade back at full strength. I love to watch him play. He's not an MVP until he cuts down his turnovers imo though.

Ghazi
03-10-2009, 02:39 PM
D-Whistle can suck it.

Flo-Rida
03-10-2009, 02:50 PM
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A wheelchair....really?

I'm sorry, but i can't stand the guy.

Why be an asshole about it? Fucking punk

Xylus
03-10-2009, 03:25 PM
DWade is one of my favorite players in the league. I like him more than Kobe and Lebron, and would love to see him win MVP over those guys.

Mark in Austin
03-10-2009, 04:58 PM
Everybody talks about LeBron and Bosh winding up in NY - but I think the far more interesting pairing would be LeBron-Wade since they are such good friends.

Of course the declining cap makes all of this a moot point...

lefty
03-10-2009, 05:01 PM
D-Whistle can suck it.

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2006/06/20/topper-heat.jpg

jag
03-10-2009, 07:03 PM
Why be an asshole about it? Fucking punk

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/ImpSS/funnies/dawson_crying-1.gif?t=1236729690

IronMexican
03-10-2009, 07:20 PM
I used to love Wade, then I hated him when everyone started loving him(After 2006), but now, I can't help but love him.

Flo-Rida
03-10-2009, 07:32 PM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/ImpSS/funnies/dawson_crying-1.gif?t=1236729690

wow you have no life.

Jacob1983
03-11-2009, 12:27 AM
I always thought it was funny how 4 games changed everyone's opinion of Wade. It's also funny that 4 games turned Wade into the second coming of Michael Jordan. Personally, I think it takes a whole lot more than 4 games to define a player's reputation and legacy. I have always thought that Wade was a little overrated and lucky.

The TroutBum
03-11-2009, 12:44 AM
I always thought it was funny how 4 games changed everyone's opinion of Wade. It's also funny that 4 games turned Wade into the second coming of Michael Jordan. Personally, I think it takes a whole lot more than 4 games to define a player's reputation and legacy. I have always thought that Wade was a little overrated and lucky.

I couldn't agree more. Take away all the bullshit 'star treatment' he gets, and he's average, at best. When I think of Duh-Wayne, I have fantasies like this:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m71/flakestein/shootback6_gif.gif

Ghazi
03-11-2009, 12:44 AM
All Whistle did in the Finals was get pampered by the refs and have a statistical anomaly series.

Nobody would remember Whistles performance if the refs swallowed their whistles like they were supposed to and the Mavs won.. like they were supposed to.

mFFL03
03-11-2009, 12:56 AM
D-whistle will never win a championship again or get an MVP award.

period.

dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 12:56 AM
I could go for some hot pockets.

Jacob1983
03-11-2009, 01:39 AM
When you look at it, all D-Fade did was drive to the basket and hope that the refs would bail him out. It worked and he shot a lot of free throws and made most of them. A lot of things had to fall in place for D-Fade to have those great stats in those 4 games. The Mavs lost composure and freaked out thus causing them to choke on a donkey's dick. Wade and the Heat had everything go in their favor. They had the momentum and they played aggressive which helped them with the refs. And even with all of those things, Wade and the Heat just narrowly beat the Mavs in games 3, 5, and 6. So was Wade really a badass in games 3-6 or was he just lucky? In order for the Heat to win, everything had to go wrong for the Mavs and everything had to go right for the Heat.

TDMVPDPOY
03-11-2009, 01:43 AM
wade playing the sympathy card to get votes? GTFO out moron

lebron has been doing this since his rookie season
cp3 has been doin this for 2 straight seasons
kobe did this also......

seriously

024
03-11-2009, 02:24 AM
d wade has something kobe, cp3, and lebron don't have. a finals MVP. now i don't expect parker or billups who also earned finals mvp to be compared to kobe, cp3, and lebron because they aren't on the same skill level as them. wade, however, is on the same skill level as those three. what sets wade and those three apart is that wade led his team to victory on the highest stage of basketball (cue mavs fans crying about ref bias). this is why wade is the best all-around player in the NBA. he's demonstrated leadership, unstoppable offense (cry more mavs fans), unrelenting defense, play making skills, and clutch ability. wade won't really receive serious consideration for mvp until he starts pulling heroics against the cavs, celtics, magic, spurs, and lakers.

Xylus
03-11-2009, 04:19 AM
Once Wade gets the right pieces around him again, his team will contend.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 04:31 AM
I could go for some hot pockets.

I can go for some ping pong balls....apparently the Suns have the same craving. Today is bitter sweet.

Xylus
03-11-2009, 04:35 AM
DOK has officially gone off the deep end. Which sucks, because I have to feed him through a straw now.

Ghazi
03-11-2009, 04:37 AM
Wade's Finals MVP can kiss my ass.

48 FT's in 2 games give me a mutha fuckin break.

I said GIVE ME, a MUTHA, FUCKIN, BREAK.

BG_Spurs_Fan
03-11-2009, 06:33 AM
Wade's Finals MVP can kiss my ass.

48 FT's in 2 games give me a mutha fuckin break.

I said GIVE ME, a MUTHA, FUCKIN, BREAK.

2006 WCSF Game 3 : 4th quarter Play-by-play :

5:28
[DAL 86-86]Harris Free Throw 1 of 2 (19 PTS) 5:28
[DAL 87-86]Harris Free Throw 2 of 2 (20 PTS) 5:08Nowitzki Foul: Shooting (2 PF)Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 (18 PTS)5:08
[SAS 87-87] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (19 PTS)5:08
[SAS 88-87] Barry Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)4:52 4:52
[DAL 88-88]Nowitzki Free Throw 1 of 2 (20 PTS) 4:52
[DAL 89-88]Nowitzki Free Throw 2 of 2 (21 PTS)Parker Driving Layup: Made (15 PTS)4:41
[SAS 90-89] 4:23Harris Running Jump: Missed 4:22Nowitzki Rebound (Off:3 Def:11)Duncan Foul: Shooting (5 PF)4:22 4:22
[DAL 90-90]Nowitzki Free Throw 1 of 2 (22 PTS) 4:22
[DAL 91-90]Nowitzki Free Throw 2 of 2 (23 PTS)Duncan Layup Shot: Made (32 PTS)4:09
[SAS 92-91] 4:09Dampier Foul: Shooting (5 PF)Duncan Free Throw 1 of 1 (33 PTS)4:09
[SAS 93-91] 3:44Terry Jump Shot: Missed 3:42
[DAL 93-93]Dampier Tip Shot: Made (5 PTS) 3:42Dampier Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)Duncan Hook Shot: Made (35 PTS)3:26
[SAS 95-93] 3:48Terry Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Bowen (1 ST)Parker Foul: Personal (4 PF)3:16 3:16
[DAL 94-95]Harris Free Throw 1 of 2 (21 PTS)Bowen Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Terry (1 ST)3:45 Team Timeout: Regular3:16 3:16
[DAL 95-95]Harris Free Throw 2 of 2 (22 PTS)Barry Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS)
Assist: Parker (4 AST)3:08
[SAS 98-95] Ginobili Foul: Personal (3 PF)2:54 2:54Howard Free Throw 1 of 2 missed 2:54Team Rebound 2:54
[DAL 96-98]Howard Free Throw 2 of 2 (12 PTS)Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)2:41 Bowen Foul: Shooting (5 PF)2:25 2:25
[DAL 97-98]Harris Free Throw 1 of 2 (23 PTS) 2:25
[DAL 98-98]Harris Free Throw 2 of 2 (24 PTS)Bowen Turnover: Lost Ball Possession (2 TO)2:06 1:46Harris Jump Shot: MissedTeam Rebound1:46 1:25Howard Foul: Shooting (5 PF)Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 (20 PTS)1:25
[SAS 99-98] 1:25Dampier Substitution replaced by StackhouseGinobili Free Throw 2 of 2 missed1:25 1:24Howard Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)Duncan Foul: Personal (6 PF)1:05 1:05Team Timeout: RegularDuncan Substitution replaced by Horry1:05 1:05
[DAL 99-99]Nowitzki Free Throw 1 of 2 (24 PTS) 1:05
[DAL 100-99]Nowitzki Free Throw 2 of 2 (25 PTS)Ginobili Driving Layup: Made (22 PTS)0:51
[SAS 101-100] 0:31
[DAL 102-101]Stackhouse Layup Shot: Made (10 PTS)
Assist: Nowitzki (3 ATeam Timeout: Regular0:26 Ginobili Running Jump: Made (24 PTS)0:21
[SAS 103-102] 0:17Team Timeout: Regular 0:09Stackhouse Jump Shot: Missed 0:07Nowitzki Rebound (Off:4 Def:11)Barry Foul: Shooting (4 PF)0:07 0:07
[DAL 103-103]Nowitzki Free Throw 1 of 2 (26 PTS)Bowen Substitution replaced by Oberto0:07 0:07
[DAL 104-103]Nowitzki Free Throw 2 of 2 (27 PTS)Team Timeout: Regular0:07 Parker Substitution replaced by Finley0:07 Oberto Substitution replaced by Bowen0:07 Team Timeout: Short0:07 Ginobili Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (2 TO)0:02 Ginobili Foul: Personal (4 PF)0:02 0:02Stackhouse Free Throw 1 of 2 missed 0:02Team Rebound 0:02Stackhouse Free Throw 2 of 2 missedTeam Rebound0:02 0:02Nowitzki Substitution replaced by DiopHorry Jump Shot: Missed0:00 Team Rebound0:00 End of 4th Quarter

Starting from a 1 point Spurs lead Dallas scored 15 of their last 19 points from the line. During the same period of time the Spurs scored 4 points from the line.

You deserved every bit of what you got in the finals.

BG_Spurs_Fan
03-11-2009, 06:39 AM
Also, not incidentally :

OFFICIALS: #17 Joe Crawford , #14 Joe DeRosa , #22 Bill Spooner

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 07:11 AM
DOK has officially gone off the deep end. Which sucks, because I have to feed him through a straw now.

I understand why you would think that, so hear me out here.

Tonight, for all respective purposes, marked the end of an era. Sure, I can talk about how the 2004-2008 Suns didn't win any championships and try to minimize the era as much as possible to support whatever argument I'm trying to make or try to cover up my true feelings about the run n' gun Suns, but it was the most successful 4 year stretch in franchise history, and it led to great memories with friends.

As odd as this analogy is, you can consider my newly found love for tanking games and berating Suns players like Nash the equivalent of a girl, who's boyfriend just broke up with her, suddenly becoming the friendly neighborhood skank who fucks anything that walks.

So while the girl uses all the random men she's fucked as a means to falsely convince herself she never liked her boyfriend, I falsely convinced myself with all this draft lottery/losing games/Steve Nash sucks talk that I never liked the run and gun Suns. Usually the girl figures out she's acting out because she misses her boyfriend and no amount of random guys she fucks will change that. Tonight was when I figured out that I'm posting so many assanine negative things because I miss the team that won 60 games, and somehow creating the mindset that losing games is good isn't going to change the fact I miss the 2005 and 2007 Suns.

So if I seem insane and incredibly dumb with the stuff I post about the Suns, it's because 2004-2008 got me so used to seeing a contender that blew out the weaker competition all the time, that quite frankly, the reality of them being a lottery team had yet to hit me before tonight. It hit me and it hit me hard.

Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 10:09 AM
I always thought it was funny how 4 games changed everyone's opinion of Wade. It's also funny that 4 games turned Wade into the second coming of Michael Jordan. Personally, I think it takes a whole lot more than 4 games to define a player's reputation and legacy. I have always thought that Wade was a little overrated and lucky.
Everybody according to jacob1983 he thinks what wade has done all season is overrated.

2008-09 Statistics
PPG 29.7
RPG 5.1
APG 7.7
SPG 2.2
BPG 1.4
FG% 0.495
FT% 0.764
3P% 0.316
MPG 38.5

yeah that's overrated my ass!

Jacob1983
03-11-2009, 03:00 PM
Hold on. I said that Wade is having a great season. However, if you don't include this season then Wade is somewhat overrated. But seriously, if Wade is a great player and better than Kobe and Lebron then why hasn't he done anything good lately? Ever since becoming Charles Barkley's homeboy and Stern's little darling, Wade hasn't done anything to help his team in the playoffs. The only Wade has done since getting his gift in 2006 is be in a bunch of phone commercials with Charles Barkley and cry while being escorted off the court in a wheel chair. If Wade can get his team out of the first round this year then I will shut up about it and give him props.

The TroutBum
03-11-2009, 04:23 PM
Hold on. I said that Wade is having a great season. However, if you don't include this season then Wade is somewhat overrated. But seriously, if Wade is a great player and better than Kobe and Lebron then why hasn't he done anything good lately? Ever since becoming Charles Barkley's homeboy and Stern's little darling, Wade hasn't done anything to help his team in the playoffs. The only Wade has done since getting his gift in 2006 is be in a bunch of phone commercials with Charles Barkley and cry while being escorted off the court in a wheel chair. If Wade can get his team out of the first round this year then I will shut up about it and give him props.

I agree with this post, with the exception of giving him props. He could drop 100, dish 50 dimes, and grab 30 rebounds a game while on his way to sweeping the Lakers and I still wouldn't give that limp dick props. The reason? 94 of those points probably came from the foul line. 45 of those assists were probably bad passes that just happened to end well. 25 of those rebounds were probably gifts from the scorers table, much like LaBoners triple double this year. He's a choad.

Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 05:45 PM
I agree with this post, with the exception of giving him props. He could drop 100, dish 50 dimes, and grab 30 rebounds a game while on his way to sweeping the Lakers and I still wouldn't give that limp dick props. The reason? 94 of those points probably came from the foul line. 45 of those assists were probably bad passes that just happened to end well. 25 of those rebounds were probably gifts from the scorers table, much like LaBoners triple double this year. He's a choad.

The hatred and that sig wow you have some serious problems.

Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 05:47 PM
Hold on. I said that Wade is having a great season. However, if you don't include this season then Wade is somewhat overrated. But seriously, if Wade is a great player and better than Kobe and Lebron then why hasn't he done anything good lately? Ever since becoming Charles Barkley's homeboy and Stern's little darling, Wade hasn't done anything to help his team in the playoffs. The only Wade has done since getting his gift in 2006 is be in a bunch of phone commercials with Charles Barkley and cry while being escorted off the court in a wheel chair. If Wade can get his team out of the first round this year then I will shut up about it and give him props.

Fair enough. Unlike that bitch ass jazz fan on this page.

Morg1411
03-11-2009, 06:04 PM
I agree with this post, with the exception of giving him props. He could drop 100, dish 50 dimes, and grab 30 rebounds a game while on his way to sweeping the Lakers and I still wouldn't give that limp dick props. The reason? 94 of those points probably came from the foul line. 45 of those assists were probably bad passes that just happened to end well. 25 of those rebounds were probably gifts from the scorers table, much like LaBoners triple double this year. He's a choad.

Ahhh...breathe in all of that misplaced macho aggression...

The TroutBum
03-11-2009, 10:38 PM
Ahhh...breathe in all of that misplaced macho aggression...

No, no -- you've got it all wrong. I'm a pussy, no question. There is ZERO machoness here. The fact is, I can hide behind a computer and share my thoughts as I see them -- and what I see, is that Duh Wayne sucks Llama balls.





Then again, I might just be a bad ass.