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DarrinS
03-10-2009, 04:54 PM
Dant, dant, dant.....another one bites the dustahhh.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19856.html






The controversial appointee to chair President Barack Obama’s National Intelligence Council walked away from the job Tuesday as criticism on Capitol Hill escalated.

Charles W. Freeman Jr., the former ambassador to Saudi Arabia, had been praised by allies and by the director of national intelligence, Dennis Blair, as a brilliant, iconoclastic analyst. Critics said he was too hard on Israel and too soft on China, and blasted him for taking funding from Saudi royals.

Freeman “requested that his selection to be Chairman of the National Intelligence Council not proceed,” Blair’s office said in a statement. “Director Blair accepted Ambassador Freeman’s decision with regret.”

The withdrawal came after Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) grilled Blair at a Senate Armed Service Committee hearing Tuesday. Lieberman cited his “concern” about “statements that [Freeman] has made that appear either to be inclined to lean against Israel or too much in favor of China.”

In particular, Freeman has described “Israeli violence against Palestinians” as a key barrier to Mideast peace, and referred to violence in Tibet last year — widely seen in the U.S. as a revolt against Chinese occupation — as a “race riot.”

His writing drew criticism of members of Congress, but Blair said the words were taken “out of context” and allies warned that Obama was allowing domestic politics to skew intelligence analysis and continuing the Bush Administration’s stance of sidelining critics of Israeli policy toward Palestinians.

“If they withdraw his appointment prior to the conclusion of [Freeman’s formal vetting] that would be seen as abject caving in on people who are extreme partisans of Israel,” Nicholas Veliotes, a former Ambassador to Egypt, and one of 17 former diplomats who signed a letters supporting Freeman, said Tuesday before the withdrawal was announced.



But Rep. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), one of Freeman's leading critics, said the appointee could have "withstood" the attacks on policy grounds, but ultimately was torpedoed by the fact that he headed an institute funded by Saudi royalty and sat on the board of a Chinese state oil company.

"The administration made yet another mistake not doing its homework before nominating someone to a senior position of unique sensitivity, and then learned from the press further and further embarrassing details," Kirk said. "He was heavily encumbered by multiple conflicts of interest involving Chinese, Saudi and other business dealings that all should have been disclosed long before."

Supergirl
03-10-2009, 04:57 PM
In particular, Freeman has described “Israeli violence against Palestinians” as a key barrier to Mideast peace, and referred to violence in Tibet last year — widely seen in the U.S. as a revolt against Chinese occupation — as a “race riot.”


Good. I don't want this guy in there anyway.

ChumpDumper
03-10-2009, 04:58 PM
Who?

I actually heard from more than one source that there was a substantial racial component to the violence in China.

Winehole23
03-11-2009, 08:37 AM
Freeman speaks out (http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/03/10/freeman_speaks_out_on_his_exit) on his exit in Foreign Policy.


There is a special irony in having been accused of improper regard for the opinions of foreign governments and societies by a group so clearly intent on enforcing adherence to the policies of a foreign government – in this case, the government of Israel. I believe that the inability of the American public to discuss, or the government to consider, any option for US policies in the Middle East opposed by the ruling faction in Israeli politics has allowed that faction to adopt and sustain policies that ultimately threaten the existence of the state of Israel. It is not permitted for anyone in the United States to say so. This is not just a tragedy for Israelis and their neighbors in the Middle East; it is doing widening damage to the national security of the United States.

Winehole23
03-11-2009, 09:17 AM
The Daily beast reports (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-03-10/obamarsquos-mideast-policy-smackdown/) the leader of the campaign against Freeman was Steven Rosen, the former director of AIPAC awaiting trial on espionage charges.

Winehole23
03-11-2009, 09:26 AM
Glenn Greenwald (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/03/10/freeman/index.html)

Winehole23
03-11-2009, 09:29 AM
Andrew Sullivan. (via Greenwald)


Obama may bring change in many areas, but there is no possibility of change on the Israel-Palestine question. Having the kind of debate in America that they have in Israel, let alone Europe, on the way ahead in the Middle East is simply forbidden. Even if a president wants to have differing sources of advice on many questions, the Congress will prevent any actual, genuinely open debate on Israel. More to the point: the Obama peeps never defended Freeman. They were too scared. The fact that Obama blinked means no one else in Washington will ever dare to go through the hazing that Freeman endured. And so the chilling effect is as real as it is deliberate.

Blake
03-11-2009, 09:45 AM
lol @ "dant dant dant...."

reminds me of beavis and butthead

George Gervin's Afro
03-11-2009, 10:29 AM
Let's just pray Obama can appoint someone as qualified 'Brownie' to lead FEMA!

Yonivore
03-11-2009, 05:32 PM
Not one leading liberal-leaning Mainstream Media Outlet reported on this controversy until Freeman pulled out of the appointment.

Why?

Well, if you're getting your explanation from these same sources or some liberal blogger, you still don't know.

Freeman is Communist China sympathizer that actually said the Tienanamen Square Massacre was an example of Chinese restraint in dealing with domestic protests. He's also an anti-Semitic, Arab-loving diplomat that has no business advising the President of the United States on National Intelligence Matters any more than would a Jew-loving, anti-Arab diplomat.

Yonivore
03-11-2009, 05:42 PM
Let's just pray Obama can appoint someone as qualified 'Brownie' to lead FEMA!
Looks like he's done worse than that for Treasury; I can only imagine what he'll do with the rest of the cabinet if he ever gets around to appointing them; after the tax evaders are vetted out, of course.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-11-2009, 05:47 PM
Glad to see, he really wasn't qualified for an Obama Administration position at all. He paid his taxes.

Yonivore
03-11-2009, 05:52 PM
Glad to see, he really wasn't qualified for an Obama Administration position at all. He paid his taxes.
I'm not so sure of that. He was named to the position before Obama started vetting people's taxes.

This controversy has been brewing for a while...I'm just thinking that with all the other things that was wrong with him, taxes would be the least of our worries on this one.

It's as if Obama isn't picking his appointees and, instead, has a bunch of idiot ideologues (much like the far-left base he was appeasing in his now abandoned campaign rhetoric) picking them for him.

Just what the fuck is President Teleprompter doing up there?

Seriously. He's reading the words of other when he speaks and he's letting other people pick his Cabinet.

Oh yeah, he's throwing some serious parties...I have heard that.

Yonivore
03-11-2009, 05:56 PM
Here's an interesting article written and posted just as Freeman was pulling his name from consideration:


Why Democrats Too Should Oppose the Freeman Appointment

Posted By Ron Radosh On March 10, 2009 @ 1:44 pm In Uncategorized | 37 Comments

BREAKING NEWS: Just as I posted this–literally- the news has come through that Charles Freeman has asked not to be appointed to the post! In other words, our blogs, attacks and opposition has done its job! If not for people like the folks at The Weekly Standard, who uncovered Freeman’s e mail, and journalists like Eli Lake, Martin Peretz, James Kirchick, Reason magazine’s Michael Moynihan and others, this victory could not have taken place. Kudos to all of them, and let us rejoice!

Update: 7:48 pm East Coast Time. Freeman has just posted his own explanation for why he asked to not be appointed. It is a self-serving, dishonest and poor excuse. To make it simple: his explanation is: “It’s all the fault of the Israeli Lobby.” You know how powerful they are. After all, Walt and Mearsheimer proved it. see for yourself: [1] http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/03/10/freeman_speaks_out_on_his_exit

The opposition to the appointment of Charles (”Chas”) Freeman to the post of Director of the National Intelligence Council has been growing. The problem is that it quickly is becoming a partisan issue- with more Republicans going on the offensive- and Democrats remaining quiet. This is one of the issues that deserve bi-partisan unity, with national security Democrats joining Republicans with the demand that President Obama rescind his appointment.

Do the Democrats really want someone like Freeman choosing what national security information to give to the President each morning, given Freeman’s track record of being a shill for the Saudis and a man in the pocket of the Chinese government? Last week, TNR’s Jonathan Chait rightfully [2] called Freeman an “ideological fanatic” who is “blind to the moral dimension of international politics.” And The Weekly Standard [3] posted Freeman’s now famous e-mail in which he made known his views. Freeman wrote the following:


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:29 PM

I will leave it to others to address the main thrust of your reflection on Eric’s remarks. But I want to take issue with what I assume, perhaps incorrectly, to be your citation of the conventional wisdom about the 6/4 [or Tiananmen] incident. I find the dominant view in China about this very plausible, i.e. that the truly unforgivable mistake of the Chinese authorities was the failure to intervene on a timely basis to nip the demonstrations in the bud, rather than — as would have been both wise and efficacious — to intervene with force when all other measures had failed to restore domestic tranquility to Beijing and other major urban centers in China. In this optic, the Politburo’s response to the mob scene at “Tian’anmen” stands as a monument to overly cautious behavior on the part of the leadership, not as an example of rash action.

For myself, I side on this — if not on numerous other issues — with Gen. Douglas MacArthur. I do not believe it is acceptable for any country to allow the heart of its national capital to be occupied by dissidents intent on disrupting the normal functions of government, however appealing to foreigners their propaganda may be. Such folk, whether they represent a veterans’ “Bonus Army” or a “student uprising” on behalf of “the goddess of democracy” should expect to be displaced with despatch from the ground they occupy. I cannot conceive of any American government behaving with the ill-conceived restraint that the Zhao Ziyang administration did in China, allowing students to occupy zones that are the equivalent of the Washington National Mall and Times Square, combined. while shutting down much of the Chinese government’s normal operations. I thus share the hope of the majority in China that no Chinese government will repeat the mistakes of Zhao Ziyang’s dilatory tactics of appeasement in dealing with domestic protesters in China.

I await the brickbats of those who insist on a politically correct — i.e. non Burkean conservative — view.

Chas
Somehow, Freeman calls his desire to praise dictators for being tough on dissenters a “Burkean conservative view,” evidently confusing Burke’s well said opposition to the French Revolution with the Chinese government’s crackdown at Tiananmen Square. So Freeman has said that the fault of the Chinese was to not having acted earlier “to nip the demonstrations in the bud,” which would have allowed them to escape using the deadly force he evidently feels was justified when “all other measures had failed to restore domestic tranquility.” And he even thinks the murder of hundreds was the fault of “ill-conceived restraint” by the Chinese government.

The above has been commented on a great deal. But most commentators have missed his other analogy. Freeman wrote that “I side with Gen. Douglas MacArthur,” (my emphasis) because “I do not believe it is acceptable for any country to allow the heart of its national capital to be occupied by dissidents intent on disrupting the normal functions of government.” It does not matter, he wrote, whether it was ” ‘The Bonus Army’ or a ‘student uprising’ on behalf” of democracy in China.

Students of 20th Century U.S. History are well [4] acquainted with the importance of the Bonus Army episode. Freeman’s citation of this is, quite frankly, shocking. It refers to the encampment by World War I veterans and their families on the outskirts of the capital in May through July of 1932, where they gathered to support Rep. Wright Patman’s bill to advance the bonus payment promised to veterans which they had not received. MacArthur ordered troops to clear veterans out of the downtown DC area. Not stopping at that, he ordered his troops to advance to the Anacostia Flats across the 11th Street bridge, where the families and veterans were camping out. He acted against the advice of his aide, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and without orders from President Herbert Hoover. Their camps were torched, gas bombs were thrown, and the veterans were forced to flee. The official toll was 54 injured, 135 arrested, and three dead, including a baby.

Here were peaceful demonstrators, veterans of the last war, routed from peaceful protest and incorrectly described by MacArthur as “a mob animated by the essence of revolution” who wanted to take over the government by force. If anyone has a right to peacefully assemble and bring their grievances to the center of government power, it was our wartime veterans. Does Mr. Freeman really see all such protests, normal in a democracy (especially since this occurred in time of great despair-the Great Depression) as events to be dealt with by military force? His e-mail suggests that he does.

Then, of course, there is the question of the Saudis, in particularly as Eric Fingerhut [5] writes, his chairmanship of the Saudi funded Middle East Policy Council. Today, all seven Republican members of the Senate Intelligence Committee criticized his appointment, [6] expressing concerns about both his experience and his objectivity. Their letter to Intelligence chief Dennis Blair, however, is in danger of being viewed as purely partisan, and will unlikely lead to the withdrawal of Freeman’s appointment.

Yet more and more evidence is coming to show the dangers of a Freeman appointment. Martin Kramer [7] reveals that in testimony on Capitol Hill in 2004, Freeman repeated unverified Saudi chatter as fact, thereby leading Kramer to write that Freeman is both “a shill and a sucker.” Do Democrats too want this man to be offering the President national security estimates? And Martin Peretz, citing the Weekly Standard, [8] points to “more nonsense” that Freeman has spouted. He suggests that President Obama act now before having to reluctantly withdraw the appointment after a fight, that will look like “an embarrassing defeat for him.”

Supposedly, Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been planning to meet with Democrats to discuss the questions that have been raised about Freeman. That they have come only from Republicans to date suggests that she is likely to remain on board in support of his appointment. That is why it is more important than ever that you contact your Representatives and Senators, especially if they are Democrats, and let them know your opposition to Charles Freeman’s appointment. In these dangerous times, America cannot afford such a man as head of the National Intelligence Council.

Article printed from Ron Radosh: http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh

URL to article: http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2009/03/10/why-democrats-too-should-oppose-the-freeman-appointment/

URLs in this post:
[1] http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/03/10/freeman_speaks_out_on_his_exit: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/03/10/freeman_speaks_out_on_his_exit
[2] called: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022702485.html?hpid=opinionsbo
x1

[3] posted: http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/02/the_realist_chas_freeman.asp
[4] acquainted: http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-army-war-in-washington.htm
[5] writes: http://jta.org/news/article/2009/03/10/1003589/the-freeman-fight-is-it-all-about-israel
[6] expressing concerns: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/09/AR2009030902724.html
[7] reveals: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:http://sandbox.blog-city.com/chas_freemans_saudi_fable.htm
[8] points to: http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_spine/archive/2009/03/09/title.aspx

Wild Cobra
03-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Has any administration had so many legitimate problems ever in history with appointments?

Keep it up DEMON-RATS!

clambake
03-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Keep it up DEMON-RATS!

did you check that flaglot for rats?

Winehole23
03-11-2009, 10:39 PM
Freeman is Communist China sympathizer that actually said the Tienanamen Square Massacre was an example of Chinese restraint in dealing with domestic protests.Misleading. The explanation you posted below makes clear it was not the massacre itself, but allowing the indefinite occupation of Tiananmen Square, that Freeman characterized as restraint.



that the truly unforgivable mistake of the Chinese authorities was the failure to intervene on a timely basis to nip the demonstrations in the bud


He's also an anti-SemiticFiat. You post no support for this. Why am I not surprised? Failure to bow and scrape to the Israel lobby isn't anti-semitism no matter how loud you yell.


Arab-loving diplomat that has no business advising the President of the United States on National Intelligence Matters any more than would a Jew-loving, anti-Arab diplomat.Freeman was US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia. That's a disqualification?

LnGrrrR
03-12-2009, 07:24 AM
Glad to see, he really wasn't qualified for an Obama Administration position at all. He paid his taxes.

AHF, thank you for being able to make fun of Obama without seeming like you're frothing at the mouth, like Yoni and WC.