View Full Version : Dwyane Wade vs. Kobe Bryant
timvp
03-10-2009, 07:50 PM
All thing being equal and both players at 100% health, who you got?
i am a big Kobe fan , and once agian thanks for not putting Lebrick up there.
I will take wade though due to his age and phenomenal play this month
The Franchise
03-10-2009, 08:01 PM
Wade because even when he is scoring 45-50 points he will get his teamates involved also. If Kobe isn't in tunnel vision mode I may go with him though.
DAF86
03-10-2009, 08:02 PM
All thing being equal and both players at 100% health, who you got?
timvp sucks=Lebron James?
If so, you suck very hard.
lefty
03-10-2009, 08:24 PM
All thing being equal and both players at 100% health, who you got?
Hard to say.
Kobe is a better outside shooter, but Wade has more balls (and I mean cojones, not touches)
But unlike Kobe, Wade didn't let his team down in the Finals.
So Wade it is.
j-money24
03-10-2009, 08:30 PM
Its still kobe, but IMO wade will pass kobe by atleast next year.
wade at 27-28 statastically should be the best year for a player.
kobe at age 31-32 will slow down his athletism.
mavs>spurs2
03-10-2009, 08:32 PM
Wade is the man. Our first glimpse of how evenly matched they really are came in this summers Olympics, and Wade has only gotten better since.
mogrovejo
03-10-2009, 08:34 PM
Wade passed Kobe this season. I'd pick LeBron though.
I got Kobe...but that doesn't mean you don't suck.
j-money24
03-10-2009, 09:14 PM
Wade passed Kobe this season. I'd pick LeBron though.
no he didn't
TampaDude
03-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Kobe now...Wade next year...LeBron 2-3 years from now...
Jacob1983
03-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Kobe
Wade is having a great year but I have always thought of him as a Penny Hardaway with a ring.
j-money24
03-11-2009, 12:14 AM
Kobe now...Wade next year...LeBron 2-3 years from now...
i might have to agree with u with kobe now and wade next year but i would put Kevin Durant 2-3 years from now.
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 12:17 AM
Wade. He's carrying that piece of shit team on his back, and doing a pretty good job of it. Also if he gets in a game 7 this year, I doubt he's gonna refuse to shoot in the 4th quarter.
Rogue
03-11-2009, 12:24 AM
exactly, the only regret of wade is the team he plays on, other than that he is wonderful.
I'm not sure if wade is the best in NBA of all time, but I can make 100% sure he is more than kobe at least.
The TroutBum
03-11-2009, 12:27 AM
I wouldn't wipe my ass with either of them. DWill will be the Finals MVP, so why not give him the regular season MVP too?
Ya, I'm one of those obnoxious Jazz fans, blow me.
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 12:29 AM
I wouldn't wipe my ass with either of them. DWill will be the Finals MVP, so why not give him the regular season MVP too?
Ya, I'm one of those obnoxious Jazz fans, blow me.
:lmao
I wouldn't wipe my ass with either of them. DWill will be the Finals MVP, so why not give him the regular season MVP too?
Ya, I'm one of those idiot Jazz fans, blow me.
:lmao:lmao
Rogue
03-11-2009, 12:34 AM
I wouldn't wipe my ass with either of them. DWill will be the Finals MVP, so why not give him the regular season MVP too?
Ya, I'm one of those obnoxious Jazz fans, blow me.
nope, Jazz fans are not as execrate as the majority of those rockets fans who are inarguably the most loyal kissers of yao's big ass.
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 11:49 AM
I Dont understand Wade has Oneal, Haslem, Beasly, Chalmers and Cook, thats a good team i would have that rather than Smush, Walton, Kwame, and Odom, im sure kobe and lebron would have a much better record with wade's teamates and in the east
balli
03-11-2009, 11:52 AM
Kobe. I'd agree that the Heat would be better if they had Kobe instead of Wade.
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 12:08 PM
LOL..kobe went nuts 3-4 years ago in a STACKED Western Conference, scored 40 point games in streaks, scored 81 points in a game, had a starting center in Kwame Brown and a point guard in Smush Parker and still made the playoffs. Yet, i bet none of you would have said he is better than Dirk or Nash at the time. You guys act like this is the first time you've seen a player carry a team. Props to Wade, BUT ALL THING HEALTHY and EQUAL, you gotta go with Kobe.
Hypocritical mother fuckers.
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 12:33 PM
I Dont understand Wade has Oneal, Haslem, Beasly, Chalmers and Cook, thats a good team i would have that rather than Smush, Walton, Kwame, and Odom, im sure kobe and lebron would have a much better record with wade's teamates and in the east
Ok if you have watched the heat as much as i do, you would know that they are inconsistent. yea they are a bunch of studs but their inconsistent.
Second yea I'm pretty sure Dwyane wade wouldn't have let Boston come back from a 24 point deficit in game 5 against Boston. Which I believe is one of the biggest choke jobs in Finals history.
hater
03-11-2009, 12:34 PM
is this a joke???
Kobe by a million miles
LnGrrrR
03-11-2009, 12:39 PM
All thing being equal and both players at 100% health, who you got?
Are we talking one game, or if I were starting a franchise?
Kobe if the former, Wade if the latter.
LnGrrrR
03-11-2009, 12:40 PM
i might have to agree with u with kobe now and wade next year but i would put kevin durant 2-3 years from now.
+1
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 12:40 PM
Ok if you have watched the heat as much as i do, you would know that they are inconsistent. yea they are a bunch of studs but their inconsistent.
Second yea I'm pretty sure Dwyane wade wouldn't have let Boston come back from a 24 point deficit in game 5 against Boston. Which I believe is one of the biggest choke jobs in Finals history.
psssh...dont act like us Lakers Fans dont know about "inconsistent". We have Lamar Odom for Chirst sake.
By the way...i doubt Dwyane Wade would even be in a situation to be up by 24 points against Boston ine the playoffs, so lets just throw that thoery out the window.
JoeTait75
03-11-2009, 12:42 PM
Big test for D-Wade tonight. Shirley a real stud will handle business at home against the depleted Celtics.
Red Hawk #21
03-11-2009, 12:43 PM
D-Wade all day
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 12:45 PM
i like D-Wade im a fan of his, but i just dont think he is on the Level of Lebron and Kobe
Red Hawk #21
03-11-2009, 12:51 PM
D-Wade stats : 30 PPG, 5RPG, 7Apg, 50% FG
Kobe stats: 28 PPG, 5 RPG, 5APG, 47% FG
D-Wade > Kobe
angel_luv
03-11-2009, 12:52 PM
The only situation in which I would enjoy having Kobe on my team is one in which I could personally bench him on a nightly basis.
But his salary would make that a ridiculous waste of money and so I would never sign him.
wade and bryant's career average in points are nearly the same with wade at 24.9 and bryant at 25.2. the difference is wade has been more efficient because his FG% is higher. he also has become a better playmaker than bryant. bryant's FT% is higher but wade scores more points from the FT line because he gets there more often. wade's only flaw is his amount of turnovers. but he makes up for them with more steals.
if you want to compare the killer instincts of kobe and wade, wade led a comeback from down 2-0 in the nba finals to win it all. when kobe was down 2-0 in the finals, he just rolled over and died.
hater
03-11-2009, 12:57 PM
if you want to compare the killer instincts of kobe and wade, wade led a comeback from down 2-0 in the nba finals to win it all. when kobe was down 2-0 in the finals, he just rolled over and died.
you do realize that Wade had Shaq and was playing the Chokericks right?
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 12:59 PM
you do realize that Wade had Shaq and was playing the Chokericks right?
Who gives a fuck they were down 13 in game three and Wade led them back. You HAVE never gave Wade his props I guess you name speaks for itself.
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 01:00 PM
Honestly though when its all said and done LeBron will go down as the greatest.
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 01:01 PM
do u guys realize what wade did for them last year?
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 01:04 PM
do u guys realize what wade did for them last year?
What not play? Did u realize how Kobe let his team down in game 4 of the finals after being up 24 points. Don't come here with that bullshit or ima come at you even harder.
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 01:05 PM
What not play? Did u realize how Kobe let his team down in game 5 of the finals after being up 24 points. Don't come here with that bullshit or ima come at you even harder.
he had the worst record, an injured kobe would never let his team loose as many games as Wade lost, if he had one arm he would still play and win more games
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 01:07 PM
Look at the year Kobe had the knee injury, he did not make the playoffs but did not loose as many games as the heat, and he was going in and out of court still playing his butt off while injured, and with a less talented team
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 01:08 PM
he had the worst record, an injured kobe would never let his team loose as many games as Wade lost, if he had one arm he would still play and win more games
Wade would never let a 24 point lead slip away. In the FINALS!
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 01:09 PM
Wade would never let a 24 point lead slip away. In the FINALS!
ok so ur talking about one game, talk about the whole season getting blown out ever single night, kobe would never do that, im going to stop arguing with you because i like wade its just i dont think he's one kobe and lebrons level
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 01:10 PM
Ive said what needed to be said Im out.
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 01:18 PM
Wade would never let a 24 point lead slip away. In the FINALS!
Did he ever get a 24 point lead against Boston in the playoffs? no? ok..
You aint proving a thing cuz it didnt or will never happen.
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 01:21 PM
we will see tonight how he does agaisnt a short handed Boston Team
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 01:24 PM
we will see tonight how he does agaisnt a short handed Boston Team
You wanna run a bet on that?
Warlord23
03-11-2009, 02:16 PM
Here's what a lot of you are forgetting ... when Kobe had a POS team and had to take the lion's share of shots, he shot a piss-poor percentage (around 43% or so). Even today when he has a stacked team and doesn't have to go 1 on 5 he shoots 47%. Wade with a POS team is shooting 50% while averaging 30 PPG.
50% FGP is a number Kobe has never seen and will never see. It's because he doesn't drive to the hoop as consistently as Wade, and allows himself to be taken out of a game when he wants to prove a point (see: 2004 Finals vs Pistons, 2008 Finals vs Celtics, 2006 playoffs vs the Suns after they got a 3-1 lead). Kobe is the most talented player of this era, but we're talking about effectiveness here.
Red Hawk #21
03-11-2009, 02:17 PM
here's what a lot of you are forgetting ... When kobe had a pos team and had to take the lion's share of shots, he shot a piss-poor percentage (around 43% or so). Even today when he has a stacked team and doesn't have to go 1 on 5 he shoots 47%. Wade with a pos team is shooting 50% while averaging 30 ppg.
50% fgp is a number kobe has never seen and will never see. It's because he doesn't drive to the hoop as consistently as wade, and allows himself to be taken out of a game when he wants to prove a point (see: 2004 finals vs pistons, 2008 finals vs celtics, 2006 playoffs vs the suns after they got a 3-1 lead). Kobe is the most talented player of this era, but we're talking about effectiveness here.
+15789564
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 02:30 PM
+15789564
Red hawk me and you have gotten into a couple of fights on here about wade. Nice to see you giving him his props. Much respect.:toast
eh..tough argument but i would take wade. I have watched a couple of his games this month and he as been unconcious
Brazil
03-11-2009, 03:03 PM
I voted kobe even if I hate the lakers I recognize kobe talent and impact. I think IMHO that we will talk about Wade in 10 - 20 years in the same way we talk about Pippen or Drexler or Pat Ewing today, kobe will go to the upper lever with tim, magic, hakeem, bill etc... (MJ is alone in his level so I didn't include him here).
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 03:07 PM
I Dont understand Wade has Oneal, Haslem, Beasly, Chalmers and Cook, thats a good team i would have that rather than Smush, Walton, Kwame, and Odom, im sure kobe and lebron would have a much better record with wade's teamates and in the east
Ya Kobe had Phil Jackson Wade has a rookie head coach.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 03:09 PM
do u guys realize what wade did for them last year?
About as much as Kobe did for the Lakers in the 2nd half of game 7 against the Suns in 2006. Boy, there was a performance for the ages.
Spursfan092120
03-11-2009, 03:11 PM
Right now, it's gotta be D-Wade
JoeTait75
03-11-2009, 03:16 PM
Wade has Oneal, Haslem, Beasly, Chalmers and Cook, thats a good team
That's a good team?
j-money24
03-11-2009, 03:47 PM
Wade plays good this month and than he becomes the best player.
it doesnt matter how good kobe, haters just dont want him to look good.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 03:49 PM
Wade plays good this month and than he becomes the best player.
Yeah, cause he'd been playing horrible prior to this month.....?
Lakers2009champs
03-11-2009, 03:50 PM
Wade plays good this month and than he becomes the best player.
it doesnt matter how good kobe, haters just dont want him to look good.
Exactly....
DrHouse
03-11-2009, 03:53 PM
At this stage in his career I take Wade simply because he's about 4-5 years younger than Kobe.
But if we level the comparison and say 30 year old Wade vs. 30 year old Kobe or even 26 year old Kobe vs. 26 year old Wade I'd take Kobe everytime.
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 03:59 PM
Yeah, cause he'd been playing horrible prior to this month.....?
DUNCANownsKOBE dont even bother laker fans are just jealous becuase everyone is taking Wade over Kobe.
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 04:07 PM
eh..tough argument but i would take wade. I have watched a couple of his games this month and he as been unconcious
yah cuz Kobe has never had a great month before :rolleyes
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 04:08 PM
yah cuz Kobe has never had a great month before :rolleyes
Are you seriously getting butthurt over this?
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 04:10 PM
Are you seriously getting butthurt over this?
im not...am i not allowed to give a rebuttle? i noticed lately, you've been on my case. whats up?
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 04:14 PM
DUNCANownsKOBE dont even bother laker fans are just jealous becuase everyone is taking Wade over Kobe.
Jealous? You're team is 34-29......Wade had a good month...whoopy.
KobeIVmvp
03-11-2009, 04:36 PM
I'm not surprised that Wade is winning LMAO, of course the haters will pick wade.
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 04:40 PM
im not...am i not allowed to give a rebuttle? i noticed lately, you've been on my case. whats up?
You have 2 douchebags in your avatar, I only have 1.
come on guys Wade is good but Kobe is clearly the best.
Wade is doing the 'one man team' thing right now thats why his numbers are so good, last time Kobe did the 'one man team' he was scoring 50, 60, 81 points, wade never touched that.
also Kobe has never been on a teams that faired as poorly as Wade's heat have lately
RedsLakers24
03-11-2009, 05:01 PM
That's a good team?
im not saying its the best team, but it is better than what kobe had in Lamar, Kwame, Walton, and Smush (who was release by the heat ask heat fans how good he is) and kobe did not get as much love as wade when he took them to the playoffs in a stack western confrence
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 05:04 PM
You have 2 douchebags in your avatar, I only have 1.
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Mugen
03-11-2009, 05:07 PM
You have 2 douchebags in your avatar, I only have 1.
lol
Mugen
03-11-2009, 05:11 PM
first off, kobe is a rapist and the lakers are a bunch of fags.
now thats outta the way, you people are crazy for not taking kobe.
ill take wade maybe 2 years from now, but kobe also took a bunch of scrubs and almost beat phoenix in the first round.
all i know is if the spurs were up by 1 and the opposing team had the ball, i'd be more scared of kobe than of dwade, and thats why i gotta give it to kobe, the rapist.
come on guys Wade is good but Kobe is clearly the best.
Wade is doing the 'one man team' thing right now thats why his numbers are so good, last time Kobe did the 'one man team' he was scoring 50, 60, 81 points, wade never touched that.
also Kobe has never been on a teams that faired as poorly as Wade's heat have lately
the 'one man team' thing is the deciding factor apparently:lol
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 05:18 PM
]ill take wade maybe 2 years from now, but kobe also took a bunch of scrubs and almost beat phoenix in the first round.\
Oh boy yeah the powerhouse 2006 Phoenix Suns with the starting front court of Boris Diaw, Tim Thomas and Shawn Marion. God almost beating that team is a major achievement.
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:24 PM
You have 2 douchebags in your avatar, I only have 1.
You represent Dirk...enough said. Also, i have Jessica Alba for people to look at.
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 05:26 PM
You represent Dirk...enough said. Also, i have some Jessica Alba for people to look at.
cool story bro.
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:27 PM
cool story bro.
Just like the Mavs franchise
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Just like the Mavs franchise
witty comeback :tu
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:30 PM
witty comeback :tu
Yah...It pretty easy to make fun of the the last NBA team in texas who has never won a title. Just thought of it makes me pitty poor Dallas. Oh well..cool story anyways.
Lakers2009champs
03-11-2009, 05:30 PM
Yah...It pretty easy to make fun of the the last NBA team in texas who has never won a title. Just thought of it makes me pitty poor Dallas. Oh well..cool story anyways.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
Mugen
03-11-2009, 05:30 PM
Oh boy yeah the powerhouse 2006 Phoenix Suns with the starting front court of Boris Diaw, Tim Thomas and Shawn Marion. God almost beating that team is a major achievement.
it is when kwame brown, luc walton, and smush parker are starting for your team.
why the fuck am i defending kobe bryant?
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 05:31 PM
it is when kwame brown, luc walton, and smush parker are starting for your team.
why the fuck am i defending kobe bryant?
:lol
Rogue
03-11-2009, 05:34 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
you'll have to change your user name or re-register a new one after the lakers suck and get swept out from the playoffs.
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:35 PM
you'll have to change your user name or re-register a new one after the lakers suck and get swept out from the playoffs.
#1 seeded teams dont suck and get swept out of the playoffs
...oh wait.....
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 05:38 PM
You represent Dirk...enough said. Also, i have Jessica Alba for people to look at.
You can't really make fun of the player someone's profile name represents when you represent this:
MBo4sDaUe4o&feature=related
Rogue
03-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Yah...It pretty easy to make fun of the the last NBA team in texas who has never won a title. Just thought of it makes me pitty poor Dallas. Oh well..cool story anyways.
mavs are the last imcompetetive team in texas and they won a championship in 06 season, in the playoffs of which the lakers were kicked out of the playoffs by the suns. :lol
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:39 PM
You can't really make fun of the player someone's profile name represents when you represent this:
MBo4sDaUe4o&feature=related
So you really want me to bust out the Dirk pix?
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 05:40 PM
So you really want me to bust out the Dirk pix?
I could care less but even most of the Laker fans on this board hate Vujacic because of how much of a faggot bitch he is.
Lakers2009champs
03-11-2009, 05:40 PM
you'll have to change your user name or re-register a new one after the lakers suck and get swept out from the playoffs.
Maybe, still doesn't change the fact that the MAVS suck major ass:rollin
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:40 PM
mavs are the last imcompetetive team in texas and they won a championship in 06 season, in the playoffs of which the lakers were kicked out of the playoffs by the suns. :lol
wait..ur saying that the Mavs won a championship?
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:42 PM
I could care less but even most of the Laker fans on this board hate Vujacic because of how much of a faggot bitch he is.
kk....fine with me, but i like how you go out of your way to find youtube vids and stuff to defend Dirk4MVP....actually i do notice you like to defend him alot. hmmm
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 05:43 PM
Sasha Vuyawhatever is probably the worst eurofag to play in the nba. It's fags like him who give european players a bad name.
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:44 PM
Sasha Vuyawhatever is probably the worst eurofag to play in the nba. It's fags like him who give european players a bad name.
fine by me
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-11-2009, 05:44 PM
kk....fine with me, but i like how you go out of your way to find youtube vids and stuff to defend Dirk4MVP....actually i do notice you like to defend him alot. hmmm
I don't know how many argument I've gotten in with him but it's a fair amount.....I just really don't like Sasha Eurobitch.
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 05:45 PM
Sons there is nothing to see here. Do not call this guy ugly..or a bandwagoner, or he will have a meltdown.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159384&postcount=56
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:46 PM
I don't know how many argument I've gotten in with him but it's a fair amount.....I just really don't like Sasha Eurobitch.
thats cool with me....other than my name..have you ever heard me actually say the name Sasha in any of my post...ny username is just a handle thats funny along with my avatar..no big deal
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:48 PM
Sons there is nothing to see here. Do not call this guy ugly..or a bandwagoner, or he will have a meltdown.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159384&postcount=56
Just showing off my lovely family. Gotta problem with that? :king
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 05:49 PM
thats cool with me....other than my name..have you ever heard me actually say the name Sasha in any of my post...ny username is just a handle thats funny along with my avatar..no big deal
so you go out of your way to call me out for my username but get butthurt when someone calls you out for yours?
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:52 PM
so you go out of your way to call me out for my username but get butthurt when someone calls you out for yours?
so im being butthurt, while your going through Forum search to try to digg up personal stuff from the past. lol
:lol:lol
Everytime someone brings up the Mavs and how they choke and havent won anything, you start going nuts.
:rollin
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 05:52 PM
Just showing off my lovely family. Gotta problem with that? :king
This man said he was gettin it! ha
TheMACHINE
03-11-2009, 05:55 PM
This man said he was gettin it! ha
;)
TDMVPDPOY
03-11-2009, 05:56 PM
kobe has nice range, but wade somehow always owns his ass in h2h matches....
dirk4mvp
03-11-2009, 05:57 PM
You can't really make fun of the player someone's profile name represents when you represent this:
MBo4sDaUe4o&feature=related
:lmao
Lakers2009champs
03-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Who is the fuck is voting for wade?
TheNextGen
03-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Sons there is nothing to see here. Do not call this guy ugly..or a bandwagoner, or he will have a meltdown.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159384&postcount=56
Wife looks pretty good. She's a keeper. :toast
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Who is the fuck is voting for wade?
I am, I also spoke with Some other coaches in the league who are willing to vote for him also.
Lakers2009champs
03-11-2009, 07:24 PM
I am, I also spoke with Some other coaches in the league who are willing to vote for him also.
Thats cool son, despite what this stupid poll say. Everyone knows that KOBE is better than Dwade. I even bet that KOBE will recieve a higher MVP VOTE.
Flo-Rida
03-11-2009, 07:37 PM
Thats cool son, despite what this stupid poll say. Everyone knows that KOBE is better than Dwade. I even bet that KOBE will recieve a higher MVP VOTE.
Really no need for the caps. I know your on his dick but damn relax.
mabrignani
03-11-2009, 08:19 PM
both need shaq to win a title but i think wade can run a game better than kobe so
WADE
Killakobe81
03-11-2009, 08:54 PM
Kobe now...Wade next year...LeBron 2-3 years from now...
that is the best take on here
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