Top 10 point guards?

[LnGrrrR]

Hey all,

Curious where everyone would rank the Top 10 point guards. My list:

1) Chris Paul
2) Deron Williams
3) Tony Parker
4) Steve Nash
5) Jason Kidd
6) Rajon Rondo
7) Chauncey Billups
8) Mike Bibby
9) Devin Harris
10) Andre Miller

[dirk4mvp]

Did you know that the Dallas Mavericks traded Devin Harris to the New Jersey Nets for Jason Kidd?

also, Kidd has been > than and more important to his team than Nash this year.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

LMAO @ Nash being ahead of Chauncey, Kidd and Harris.

[dirk4mvp]

LMAO @ Nash being ahead of Chauncey, Kidd and Harris.

son he played that awesome defense on Kidd when he was standing wide open for a 3 after Dirk passed it to him.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

son he played that awesome defense on Kidd when he was standing wide open for a 3 after Dirk passed it to him.

son you know you're great when your team beats the Lakers while you're wearing street clothes and then they lose 5 straight once you come back.

[LnGrrrR]

Ok, yeah, I probably have Nash too high... probably looking too much at past performance rather than current. :)

[m33p0]

Did you know that the Dallas Mavericks traded Devin Harris to the New Jersey Nets for Jason Kidd?

also, Kidd has been > than and more important to his team than Nash this year.
no shit. really? dallas is so screwed.

[Texas_Ranger]

Rajan Rondo is overrated!

[Ditty]

Hey all,

Curious where everyone would rank the Top 10 point guards. My list:

1) Chris Paul
2) Tony Parker
3) Deron Williams
4) Chauncey Billups
5) Devin Harris
6) Steve Nash
7) Jason Kidd
8) Rajon Rondo
9) Mike Bibby
10) Andre Miller

i changed your list this is the real way

[The Franchise]

Where's Aaron Brooks dammit?! :ihit :lol

[z0sa]

parker is definitely no lower than #2.

[hater]

1) Deron Williams
2) Chris Paul
3) Tony Parker

Everyone else is so far behind it's pointless to keep going

[lil_penny]

1) Deron Williams
2) Chris Paul
3) Tony Parker

Everyone else is so far behind it's pointless to keep going

Correct!!!

[SpuronyourFace]

Best pt guard ever-Scott Skiles


no....Avery.

[Sportstudi]

parker is definitely no lower than #2.

So, you want to tell everybody here that either Paul or Williams is not as good as Parker? Come on, get real! CP3 and DWill are currently the best PG's in the league. If you rank Parker #3, that's okay for me, because he's playing very well right now, but he's definitely not above CP3 or DWill.

[Bob Lanier]

Chauncey has turned a mediocre team to a deep playoff team.
lol what

[Lars]

Chauncey gave a Nuggets team a brief surge in intensity, but by the end of this season they will be right back to where they were last year. Carmello just isn't as good as people make him out to be.

[Darrin]

1) Deron Williams
2) Chauncey Billups
3) Chris Paul
4) Tony Parker
5) Rajon Rondo
6) Andre Miller
7) Jason Kidd

Everyone else eliminated.

[dirk4mvp]

parker is definitely no lower than #2.


He's nowhere close to cp3 or Williams.

[z0sa]

He's nowhere close to cp3 or Williams.

Alert me when either one of cp3 or williams leads his team to a Finals sweep and grabs Finals MVP honors.

Shit, alert me when either one of those fools win a ring. Don't pull the Duncan card, without Parker we would not have a 2007 ring.

[spursfan09]

He's nowhere close to cp3 or Williams.


Correct. Parker's done so much more. They wish they could have a career like him. Most likely won't.

[z0sa]

So, you want to tell everybody here that either Paul or Williams is not as good as Parker? Come on, get real! CP3 and DWill are currently the best PG's in the league. If you rank Parker #3, that's okay for me, because he's playing very well right now, but he's definitely not above CP3 or DWill.

First time someone ever had a different opinion than you? Parker is #2 behind cp3.

[dirk4mvp]

Alert me when either one of cp3 or williams leads his team to a Finals sweep and grabs Finals MVP honors.

Aside from 04 not being a Finals sweep, by your retarded ass logic, Chauncey Billups is also better than CP3 and Deron Williams.

I forgot I was dealing with delusional spurfans here. Carry along.

[spursfan09]

Tony Parker is not even the first option on his team. Like CP3 or Williams. When Manu and Tim are healthy TP has to defer to them alot, so its tough sometimes for him to put up these kind of numbers that the other two do

[dirk4mvp]

Back to his trolling ways posting stuff that makes no sense. What kind of logic is this --->Aside from 04 not being a Finals sweep, by your retarded ass logic, Chauncey Billups is also better than CP3 and Deron Williams. What does that even mean? Your trolling has made YOU dillusional. You hatred has made you blind. Go back to the NBA chat and troll over there.


Are you retarded?

[RedsLakers24]

I would put Mo Will instead of Rondo, Mo Will is good and is clutch

[dirk4mvp]

Yes, yes I am. Good one Troll. What's next a Yo Mama joke?

I'm just waiting for you to say your mandatory memphis mavs fan "joke" that's failed to humor anyone before I call you a fucking dipshit again.

[balli]

1. Deron Williams
2. Gabe Pruitt
3. Mike James
4. Anthony Carter
5. Javaris Critenton
6. Luke Ridnour
7. Royal Ivey
8. George Hill
9. Jason Fart
10. cp3

[RedsLakers24]

1. Deron Williams
2. Gabe Pruitt
3. Mike James
4. Anthony Carter
5. Javaris Critenton
6. Luke Ridnour
7. Royal Ivey
8. George Hill
9. Jason Fart
10. cp3

Javaris is a Stud, i would put him 1 and Deron 2

[Dex]

Don't forget Ko0kic.

[DAF86]

1-CP3
2-D-Will
3-Tony
4-Nash
5-Nelson
6-Billups
7-Harris
8-Kidd
9-Calderon
10-Rondo

-Is Mo Williams considered a PG? if he is he should be 7th

-A lot of people here are too quick to pick on Nash but the guy is the best shooter in the world and one of the top three passers and ball-handlers, so even though he shouldn't be a two times MVP of the regular season he's without a doubt a top 5 PG right now.

[RedsLakers24]

Wheres Farmar? he should be top 3, he is the next comming of Tony Parker

[LnGrrrR]

Rajan Rondo is overrated!

I'm a homer. :D

[LnGrrrR]

Originally Posted by hater http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/Style_Templates/nba/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3184652#post3184652)
1) Deron Williams
2) Chris Paul
3) Tony Parker

Everyone else is so far behind it's pointless to keep going


Correct!!!
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/Style_Templates/nba/statusicon/user_online.gif

I second that!!!!:toast

Well yeah, that's obvious. :)

[BlackSwordsMan]

another scola thread!!

[LnGrrrR]

1-CP3
2-D-Will
3-Tony
4-Nash
5-Nelson
6-Billups
7-Harris
8-Kidd
9-Calderon
10-Rondo


I like Calderon too... he would've been 11 or 12.

[z0sa]

Aside from 04 not being a Finals sweep, by your retarded ass logic, Chauncey Billups is also better than CP3 and Deron Williams.

He was back then. Last I checked, he averaged something like 25/10 against the most heavily favored Laker team of all time ...


I forgot I was dealing with delusional spurfans here. Carry along.

Parker is closer to #1 than #3, and if the Spurs win another ship (especially if he grabs another Finals MVP), he's #1 hands down.

Damn people cant handle other's opinions for shit.

[jack sommerset]

Correct. Parker's done so much more. They wish they could have a career like him. Most likely won't.

hahaha. No one else has Duncan. Parker is easy top 10 pick for people this season because of Duncans rings and all the changes to teams concerning point guards. Some were traded to other teams,some teams are going through internal changes and some are getting older. Its a good time to be Parker.

Just curious and don't go all half cock on me for asking this question. Why is Wade not mentioned. The guy runs the Heats offense,scores a shitload of points and is averaging alomst 8 assit a game and of course has that ring. Thats a point guard in my opinion.

[sendman]

Any list of top 10 PGs that doesn't include Beno Udrih is just silly.

[balli]

Damn people cant handle other's opinions for shit.
That's because saying TP is better than #8 or #3 is a ridiculously stupid opinion built on extreme homerism.

[hater]

That's because saying TP is better than #8 or #3 is a ridiculously stupid opinion built on extreme homerism.

how is that ridiculuous. Deron is not clearly better than TP. out of those top 3, anyone of them could be #1 on any given night, or any given playoff series.

IMO I would pick Dwill out of those 3. but I am not surprised to see other ppl pick the other 2

CP3, TP, DWill are all so close that it's not ridiculous to say either one is ahead of the other. wake up homer jazz fan

[mogrovejo]

1 - Deron Williams
2 - Chris Paul
3 - Tony Parker
4 - Chauncey Billups
5 - Jason Kidd
6 - Gilbert Arenas
7 - Andre Miller
8 - Rajon Rondo
9 - Baron Davis
10 - Jameer Nelson

Honorable mentions (players who could be there): Devin Harris, Derrick Rose, José Calderon, Russell Westbrook, TJ Ford. Mike Bibby is a top 10 pg this season, not if you consider the last 3 or 4.

Guys who are competent enough and guards who can play the position in the right team: Kirk Hinrich, Derek Fisher, Raymond Felton, Chris Duhon, DJ Augustin, Steve Blake, Mario Chalmers, Monta Ellis, Mo Williams, Luke Ridnour, Ramon Sessions.

[jayman2582]

It's hard to argue with the top 3. I mean yes TP has accomplished more but I don't see him as a better facilitator than cp3 or dwill. I don't think his passing is quite as pretty as those two. He is more of a scorer. nothing wrong with that. I still don't think he commands the attention that cp3 and dwill get tho. I guarantee you teams #1 goal is to stop deron and cp3 everytime they play the jazz and hornets. The spurs its more like stop duncan and manu with tp a solid third. All great pg's tho. I want to say give me deron just for his sick filthy crossover!

[Bob Lanier]

He was back then. Last I checked, he averaged something like 25/10 against the most heavily favored Laker team of all time ...
You might want to check again. Billups averaged 21 points and 5 assists in the series. He shot very well - 51% overall, which is astonishing considering how inefficient he usually is. But he didn't put up "25/10".

In any case, that was five years ago.

[RedsLakers24]

Jordan Farmar>>>>All Point Guard in NBA

[Chomag]

1) Deron Williams
3) Chris Paul
3) Tony Parker
4) Chauncy Billups
5) Steve Nash
6) George Hill (if he had the same playing time as the others on the list)
7) Mike Bibby
8) Devin Harris
9) Rajon Rondo
10) Baron Davis

[Lakers2009champs]

1. CHRIS PAUL BITCH

Fuck the rest:lol

[balli]

how is that ridiculuous...
CP3, TP, DWill are all so close that it's not ridiculous to say either one is ahead of the other. wake up homer jazz fan
Not to hate on tony. That's not my intention. I'm not trying to be a dick, but there's Deron & Paul (and arguments for either)... and then everybody else.

Would I say TP is the third best PG in the league? Yeah, maybe, if not for Chauncey, but the chasm between 2 and 3 is miles wide.

[z0sa]

Not to hate on tony. That's not my intention. I'm not trying to be a dick, but there's Deron & Paul (and arguments for either)... and then everybody else.

Would I say TP is the third best PG in the league? Yeah, maybe, if not for Chauncey, but the chasm between 2 and 3 is miles wide.

Uhhh... no. The chasm between 3 and 4 is miles wide. Those 3 players are all clearly in the same tier. You'd be a hater to think otherwise.

[mavs>spurs2]

1) 6) George Hill (if he had the same playing time as the others on the list)

:lol

[Brazil]

IMHO in all objectivity we have 3 PGs at the top: cp3 dw tp then the rest.
CP3 is the best of the 3 : the only one seriously within a discussion for mvp. Between dw and tp my homer heart says tp this season, he has demonstrated he can carry a team alone against good competition. He also deserves respect for his mvp finals and his three rings and he has a hot wife which is also important.

[balli]

Y'all are insane.

[z0sa]

Y'all are insane.

I agree with some of what you have to say, but to say TP isn't even close to Dwill/cp3's level is what's insane.

[Ghazi]

1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul
3. Tony Parker
4. Rajon Rondo
5. Chauncy Billups
6. Devin Harris
7. Jameer Nelson
8. Jason Kidd
9. Steve Nash
10. Andre Miller

[jayman2582]

which point guard brakes the most ankles?

[Girasuck]

Tony Parker better than DWill and CP3? Please. Next you'll be telling me Tim Duncan's not a center.

[j-money24]

1) Deron Williams
2) Chris Paul
3) Tony Parker

Everyone else is so far behind it's pointless to keep going

[Lakers2009champs]

Chris Paul>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Deron Williams>>>Tony Parker

[SpursFan67]

more like CP3>d-will>parker>>>>>>>>>>>others(too old (nash,kidd) or not developped enough(rondo,harris,nelson,rose)

[KobeIVmvp]

1.Chris Paul
2.Tony Parker

3.Deron Williams

[himat]

The Nuggets have slipped lately but there is no way Tony Parker is better than Chauncey. Chauncey murders Tony Parker. If Tony Parker was in Denver instead of Chauncey they would be missing the playoffs, not the Suns. Do you realize how good the Spurs would be if they had Chauncey instead of Parker? Parker can get inside very well, but that is all he has on Chauncey. Chauncey is superior defensively, shooting (3 point, midrange, and FT), assists, TO's, leadership, and strength.

[Mugen]

The Nuggets have slipped lately but there is no way Tony Parker is better than Chauncey. Chauncey murders Tony Parker. If Tony Parker was in Denver instead of Chauncey they would be missing the playoffs, not the Suns. Do you realize how good the Spurs would be if they had Chauncey instead of Parker? Parker can get inside very well, but that is all he has on Chauncey. Chauncey is superior defensively, shooting (3 point, midrange, and FT), assists, TO's, leadership, and strength.

maybe 3 years ago.

there is no way in hell i take chauncey over tp right now.

tp is the best slashing pg in the league and that's way more important than anything else that chauncey would add to the spurs.

also, to say tp is not in dwill or cp3's league is just stupid.

[z0sa]

The Nuggets have slipped lately but there is no way Tony Parker is better than Chauncey. Chauncey murders Tony Parker. If Tony Parker was in Denver instead of Chauncey they would be missing the playoffs, not the Suns. Do you realize how good the Spurs would be if they had Chauncey instead of Parker? Parker can get inside very well, but that is all he has on Chauncey. Chauncey is superior defensively, shooting (3 point, midrange, and FT), assists, TO's, leadership, and strength.

I would take TP over Chauncey 10/10 times right now and from about 2007 playoffs on.

[The Franchise]

I would take TP over Chauncey 10/10 times right now and from about 2007 playoffs on.

I would take TP as well but only because of the age factor. Chauncey has a different game but he is just as effective.

[Sportstudi]

First time someone ever had a different opinion than you? Parker is #2 behind cp3.

It's definitely not the first time that other people have a different opinion. No problem with that. But I don't think you will find many people that think DWill is only #3 behind CP3 and Parker. Parker is within the Top 3, I agree, but I think CP3 and DWill are still better.

[mabrignani]

Thought Id help you with that.

your sig makes no sense, 1900 the lakers beat the blazers????

[Xylus]

You don't really need a player like Chauncey Billups on the Spurs. When your team is already stacked with leadership (Pop, Duncan, Bowen), another leader won't make much of a difference. Parker is perfect for the Spurs because he provides something that the Spurs don't have much of outside of him: Youth, speed, an unguardable scoring machine.

Besides, Parker is as clutch, if not more clutch, than Chauncey is these days. This is coming from a Suns fan, though.

[Pelicans78]

Put CP3 on the Spurs and they win the title every season.

[Ghazi]

Put CP3 on the Spurs and they win the title every season.


prove it.

[Pelicans78]

prove it.

Well, let me get my NBA 2K6, trade CP3 to the Spurs for Parker and simulate each season up to this point and see how many titles the Spurs win.

[Xylus]

Can't forget about White Magic Dragic.

[Brazil]

The Nuggets have slipped lately but there is no way Tony Parker is better than Chauncey. Chauncey murders Tony Parker. If Tony Parker was in Denver instead of Chauncey they would be missing the playoffs, not the Suns. Do you realize how good the Spurs would be if they had Chauncey instead of Parker? Parker can get inside very well, but that is all he has on Chauncey. Chauncey is superior defensively, shooting (3 point, midrange, and FT), assists, TO's, leadership, and strength.

yeah right chauncey>tp

TP 33,7 min 21 PPG FG% 49 6,7 APG 2,9 RPG and 2,5 TO
CB 35,5 min 18,7 PPG FG% 42 6,1 APG 2,8 RPG and 2,24 TO

Obvious CB>TP :lmao

[SouthTexasRancher]

The Nuggets have slipped lately but there is no way Tony Parker is better than Chauncey. Chauncey murders Tony Parker. If Tony Parker was in Denver instead of Chauncey they would be missing the playoffs, not the Suns. Do you realize how good the Spurs would be if they had Chauncey instead of Parker? Parker can get inside very well, but that is all he has on Chauncey. Chauncey is superior defensively, shooting (3 point, midrange, and FT), assists, TO's, leadership, and strength.


Huh? WTF?

What the hell is in the water up in Denver? It used to be sparkling clear mountain spring water. Apparently people have been pissin' in the creek lately!

[Brazil]

By the way if you compare TP and DW stats nothing shoking saying tp>dw

TP 33,7 min 21 PPG FG% 49 6,7 APG 2,9 RPG and 2,5 TO
per 48 mn
TP 48 min 30 PPG FG% 49 9,5 APG 4,1 RPG and 3,6 TO ratio assist to 5,6

DW

[Brazil]

DW 36,3 min 18,7 PPG FG% 47 10,6 APG 2,8 RPG and 3,4 TO
per 48 mn
DW 48 min 24,7 PPG FG% 47 14 APG 3,7 RPG and 4,5 TO ratio assist to 9,5