The Drew Gooden Appreciation Station

[completely deck]

The Drew Gooden Appreciation Station

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Quick background:


Full name:Andrew Melvin Gooden (Drew)
Position: Forward
Height: 6-10 Weight: 230 lbs.
Born: September 24, 1981 in Oakland, California
High School: El Cerrito in El Cerrito, California
College: University of Kansas
Drafted by the Memphis Grizzlies in the 1st round (4th pick, 4th overall) of the 2002 NBA draft.

Career averages:


28.5 minutes per game
12.1 points per game

4.9 field goals per game

10.4 field goals attempted
47% field goal percentage





2.3 free throws per game

3.2 free throws attempted per game
73% free throw percentage




8 rebounds per game

2.6 offensive rebounds per game
8 defensive rebounds per game


1.2 assists per game
Was #5 in the league for offensive rebounds in the 2006-2007 season (behind Tyson Chandler, Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard and Elton Brand (to put in perspective, Tim Duncan was #16)).

Personal Life:


Was nicknamed “The Truth” in college
Opened the Drew Gooden Reading and Learning Center at Cleveland’s East End Neighborhood House in September 2005
Won the NBA Community Assist Award in October 2005
Named the Al Lerner Community Service Award winner at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards in February 2006
Has been named among professional athletes as “Good Guys in Sports” by The Sporting News on three occasions
His father, Andrew Gooden, played basketball in Finland
Plays the piano
After his sophomore season in college, played against Michael Jordan at Jordan’s camp in Santa Barbara, Calif.
Drew is half Finnish.
Drew asked the media to call him "The Big Drizzle" at one point.
About the hair debacle:

He called it the "Sheed", as he claimed to have torn a small patch of hair directly from Rasheed Wallace's skull.
Gooden has received much criticism for his atypical hair cut, and has begun to defend himself. Gooden states, "It is drawing a lot of attention...One thing I've found out is even negative publicity is good publicity. At least I had the (guts) to do it." He also claims the women love it; "I went from getting compliments to now being sexy."



Here's to a hopefully great late second half of the year and playoff stint with our San Antonio Spurs! Hopefully his play warrants a resigning in the summer. Only time will tell!

[xtremesteven33]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODen

[Spursfan092120]

I'm all about the Good One, baybee

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eWLgIu9FH4Rw/340x.jpg
Focused and ready...LET'S DO THIS!!

[urunobili]

Fear the Good!

[hater]

Gooden sporting the Hector Lavoe glasses. I will call him the man that breathes underwater

[bbarry]

i'm not sure if i'm quite ready to commit appreciation to him, if we haven't seen him play, or better yet, whether or not he's gonna continue to be injury prone in a spurs' system.

[Spursfan092120]

Gooden sporting the Hector Lavoe glasses. I will call him the man that breathes underwater
:lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

gay threads such as this one are disgusting.

[completely deck]

gay threads such as this one are disgusting.

go make a draft prospect thread about it

[nkdlunch]

Props to Gooden on his good taste in clothing. thats about it

[Spur-Addict]

"He called it the "Sheed", as he claimed to have torn a small patch of hair directly from Rasheed Wallace's skull. "

:lol


go make a draft prospect thread about it

:lol

[RollingBlackOut]

I appreciate Drew Gooden for.............

Shaving that monstrosity he was growing on his Chin.
http://www.cavsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/drewgooden_beard.jpg

[Marcus Bryant]

go make a draft prospect thread about it

You aren't worth it.

[completely deck]

I appreciate Drew Gooden for.............

Shaving that monstrosity he was growing on his Chin.
http://www.cavsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/drewgooden_beard.jpg

Amen to that.

[Texas_Ranger]

Gooden!!!!

[Marcus Bryant]

Did I mention how fucking gay this thread is? It's not like we needed another Gooden thread in this forum after the billion other Gooden threads in the past week. Jesus Christ.

[FromWayDowntown]

Is this where I go to appreciate Drew Gooden this afternoon? I don't want to confuse this afternoon's thread with this morning's thread or yesterday's thread, to say nothing of going with something so stale as last weekend's thread(s).

TIA!

[completely deck]

please go shit up one of your trillion threads that no one reads

[Marcus Bryant]

Funny. You're worried about someone 'shitting up' your gay ass thread about the one player for whom a billion other threads have been posted in the last week.

And this is a really, really gay ass thread. Who gives a shit what he calls his hair?

[hater]

Did I mention how fucking gay this thread is? It's not like we needed another Gooden thread in this forum after the billion other Gooden threads in the past week. Jesus Christ.

welcome to Spurstalk.

You must have missed the various threads honoring Pops Mesna Bonsu, James "Flight" White, Luis Scola, James Gist, etc, etc,

[honestfool84]

welcome to Spurstalk.

You must have missed the various threads honoring Pops Mesna Bonsu, James "Flight" White, Luis Scola, James Gist, etc, etc,

:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Welcome to SpursTalk yourself.

Fuck You.

[xtremesteven33]

ladies ladies....all this over a thread??



Make love not War!

[Holt's Cat]

Awwww...what's wong? Did Mawcus huwt your feewings?

[Spur-Addict]

:dramaquee 's

[Brazil]

The big issue we have with Goooooooddddden is the tatoos, he will be the only guy with big tatoos in this team, just for that Pop will let him on the bench

[usckk]

The big issue we have with Goooooooddddden is the tatoos, he will be the only guy with big tatoos in this team, just for that Pop will let him on the bench

Duncan, Mason, and Hill have tats too.

[Whisky Dog]

It's an internet forum, so anyone who really gives a shit about all these Gooden threads or whatnot can click on them. That's what the thread title is for, if you don't want to read the threads don't click on them. I'd say some people just can't grasp that thought, but that just isn't true. The truth is some people just like to be assholes who feel spreading their asshole stench all over everyone else will somehow make them feel just a little bit better. What a shame.

[Spursfan092120]

Funny. You're worried about someone 'shitting up' your gay ass thread about the one player for whom a billion other threads have been posted in the last week.

And this is a really, really gay ass thread. Who gives a shit what he calls his hair?
OK..seriously..when you get on the Spurstalk.com front page, you have the right to click or not click on a thread. It's blatantly obvious what this thread is about by the title. If you didn't want to see it, DON'T CLICK ON IT!

[Spursfan092120]

kBF1lsZUlUI

[exstatic]

OK..seriously..when you get on the Spurstalk.com front page, you have the right to click or not click on a thread. It's blatantly obvious what this thread is about by the title. If you didn't want to see it, DON'T CLICK ON IT!

You guys are totally missing the point of MB's faux tantrum: Deck passed on the same opportunity to not click on one of his threads.

[Spursfan092120]

You guys are totally missing the point of MB's faux tantrum: Deck passed on the same opportunity to not click on one of his threads.
If that's the case, I apologize...my bad MB

[completely deck]

You guys are totally missing the point of MB's faux tantrum: Deck passed on the same opportunity to not click on one of his threads.

I made a mild swing at him because CD bumped a thread on a former draft prospect thread. MarcusBryant decided to meltdown and has been stalking me since. :rolleyes

[Whisky Dog]

You guys are totally missing the point of MB's faux tantrum: Deck passed on the same opportunity to not click on one of his threads.

Oh, which one was that?

[rayray2k8]

What the hell??
This guy hasn't done shit and you're ready to go down on him? :lol
Like as if we dont need any more Gooden threads..

[Spursfan092120]

What the hell??
This guy hasn't done shit and you're ready to go down on him? :lol
Like as if we dont need any more Gooden threads..
Um..you do know he's your avatar, right?

[Brazil]

Duncan, Mason, and Hill have tats too.

They have tats but litle ones, Goooddd has Huge tats

[rayray2k8]

Um..you do know he's your avatar, right?

That's very observant of you!!!
Nice work Sherlock.

Do a little investigating here as well. ;)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3163384&postcount=24

[Spursfan092120]

That's very observant of you!!!
Nice work Sherlock.

Do a little investigating here as well. ;)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3163384&postcount=24
lol...touchee

[exstatic]

Oh, which one was that?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97946

[rayray2k8]

Haha, didn't mean to come off as a dick, but that's mainly the reason why I used that
avatar.. So many people have put so much faith into Gooden that they see him as that..
Their "savior". :lol

Put I'm hoping he has some sort of impact with the spurs.
Try looking him up on youtube.. He gets owned a lot in a few vids but
some hope with others.

[Spursmania]

Haha, didn't mean to come off as a dick, but that's mainly the reason why I used that
avatar.. So many people have put so much faith into Gooden that they see him as that..
Their "savior". :lol

Put I'm hoping he has some sort of impact with the spurs.
Try looking him up on youtube.. He gets owned a lot in a few vids but
some hope with others.

Damn, he better grow some bigger balls because we don't need him to be owned by many teams. He's a big athletic guy-I'm really hoping he brings some depth and presence to the interior. Don't burst my bubble too soon.:(

[BUMP]

welcome to Spurstalk.

You must have missed the various threads honoring Pops Mesna Bonsu, James "Flight" White, Luis Scola, James Gist, etc, etc,

:lmao at welcoming a guy with 1 million posts and counting

[Spursmania]

:lmao at welcoming a guy with 1 million posts and counting

We're a very friendly fan base. We have a lot to be proud. What's wrong with that?:lol

[Spursfan092120]

Haha, didn't mean to come off as a dick, but that's mainly the reason why I used that
avatar.. So many people have put so much faith into Gooden that they see him as that..
Their "savior". :lol

Put I'm hoping he has some sort of impact with the spurs.
Try looking him up on youtube.. He gets owned a lot in a few vids but
some hope with others.
No biggie...Yeah...I have been looking him up on youtube. We definitely can use the athleticism. I've just got a positive mental attitude about the situation.

[Spursfan092120]

:lmao at welcoming a guy with 1 million posts and counting
Guess you missed the sarcasm.

dTs7rh4up44

[BUMP]

Guess you missed the sarcasm.

guess so... how am i supposed to know who's being sarcastic and who's being a dumbass?:lol

[Spursfan092120]

guess so... how am i supposed to know who's being sarcastic and who's being a dumbass?:lol
True...Hater's pretty knowledgeable though.

[Marcus Bryant]

OK..seriously..when you get on the Spurstalk.com front page, you have the right to click or not click on a thread. It's blatantly obvious what this thread is about by the title. If you didn't want to see it, DON'T CLICK ON IT!

Blow me.

[Spursfan092120]

Blow me.
Settle down man..read a little more...someone clued me in that you were being sarcastic..I already apologized.

[crc21209]

The big issue we have with Goooooooddddden is the tatoos, he will be the only guy with big tatoos in this team, just for that Pop will let him on the bench

Tats and a headband. :smokin :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Settle down man..read a little more...someone clued me in that you were being sarcastic..I already apologized.

I'll let it slide this time.

[Spursfan092120]

I'll let it slide this time.
aww..tanks.. :)

[mabrignani]

I'm all about the Good One, baybee

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eWLgIu9FH4Rw/340x.jpg
Focused and ready...LET'S DO THIS!!

finally someone wears a headband who actually will get pt

[Spur-Addict]

:lmao

[angelbelow]

go make a draft prospect thread about it

:rollin

[Yorae]

finally someone wears a headband who actually will get pt

Thank god he's not like this.

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/03/21/steven_hills_headband_is_useful.jpg

[Spursfan092120]

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/03/21/steven_hills_headband_is_useful.jpg

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/mc13/files/mc_chewbacca.jpg

[completely deck]

It is time.

[Manufan909]

I'll appreciate someone who avgs more boards than minutes, and half as many pts.:hat

[completely deck]

4 down? Yeah why not, Pop?

[Hooks]

Gooden>>>>>>Scola

[BruceBowenFan]

kBF1lsZUlUI

that was epic

[Spurs Brazil]

Great game tonight.

Very good job

[alchemist]

Gooden was huge tonight :flag:

[loveforthegame]

He fits right in. I really like what I've seen so far and he should only get better as he gets more comfortable and finds his rhythm.

[Mugen]

the big drizzle is going to fit right in.

[HarlemHeat37]

this is a guy that had played 2 games in about 2 months before this game..and one of those games was for 4 minutes against LA..a guy that isn't in good basketball shape yet, and doesn't know the system fully yet..

impressive regardless, but even more impressive when you consider the circumstances..he gives us another option down low..he's a good shooter that can stretch out the D anywhere inside the 3-point line..he's aggressive and gets to the line..

his D isn't good, but it can't really be worse than Bonner's IMO..judging from what Cavs and Bulls fans have said, Gooden's individual D isn't bad, it's average..it's the team D where he's horrible and struggles..so that alone is an upgrade over Bonner defensively, and the rebounding isn't up for debate..

Manu and Gooden should have no problems co-existing..Manu is a solid passer that will be able to establish the PnR with Drew, and he'll be able to penetrate and dish..if Bonner can be sent to the bench with Kurt starting, our bench offense should be much better..

nice to see..

[The_Worlds_finest]

Moses?

[jag]

:lol MB is goin Ron Ron in this thread.

[NewJerSpur]

this is a guy that had played 2 games in about 2 months before this game..and one of those games was for 4 minutes against LA..a guy that isn't in good basketball shape yet, and doesn't know the system fully yet..

impressive regardless, but even more impressive when you consider the circumstances..he gives us another option down low..he's a good shooter that can stretch out the D anywhere inside the 3-point line..he's aggressive and gets to the line..

his D isn't good, but it can't really be worse than Bonner's IMO..judging from what Cavs and Bulls fans have said, Gooden's individual D isn't bad, it's average..it's the team D where he's horrible and struggles..so that alone is an upgrade over Bonner defensively, and the rebounding isn't up for debate..

Manu and Gooden should have no problems co-existing..Manu is a solid passer that will be able to establish the PnR with Drew, and he'll be able to penetrate and dish..if Bonner can be sent to the bench with Kurt starting, our bench offense should be much better..

nice to see..

:tu

Although I'd love to see him swatting the hell out of layup attempts rather than just bodying up on guys, at least he gives more effort on defense than Bonner at this point. We'll need them both playing at a high level regarding their specialties to compete against the elite.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

A good addition by the FO.

Not what we needed on D (won't block many shots from the weakside, poor one-on-one defender), but a great scoring big for the bench, and a tough rebounder. He should help.

[completely deck]

vs. LAC 03/27:
18 min, 6-9 FG, 14 PTS, 2-2 FT, 6 REB, 1 STL

:toast

[Spursfan092120]

vs. LAC 03/27:
18 min, 6-9 FG, 14 PTS, 2-2 FT, 6 REB, 1 STL

:toast
It was a Gooden

[onarollbaby]

one thing I can't help but notice about Gooden is that he tends to unnecessarily foul after making some defensive lapses. He should watch out for that.

[Ice009]

one thing I can't help but notice about Gooden is that he tends to unnecessarily foul after making some defensive lapses. He should watch out for that.

I haven't watched him much, and that is because Pop never plays him ;). If he starts doing that though, you can bet that I will be on his ass about it in the game thread like I am on Mason about his reaching in and fouling.

[Manufan909]

vs. LAC 03/27:
18 min, 6-9 FG, 14 PTS, 2-2 FT, 6 REB, 1 STL

:toast

Wish he'd started the 2nd half. Hope Pop sees his great offensive skills and just pairs him with KT or TD to mask his defencies on D.:hat

[spurtech09]

great game gooden

[Spursmania]

I'm glad he got more minutes tonight. Good game form the big drizzle.

[MrChug]

Lovin the Good's #90.

[mark of a champion]

Gooden will just keep getting better with more PT. Let's hope we sew up that #2 spot so Gooden can get heavy minutes the last few games and rest Duncan.

[slayermin]

I would just like to say I was wrong about Gooden. He's a physical presence out there and he's only going to get better. Spurs made a great pickup.

[Spurs Brazil]

17pts - (6-8FG), good game against the Pacers

[VI_Massive]

17pts - (6-8FG), good game against the Pacers

best game with SA by far. I hope this is a sign of what he could do in the playoffs -- provide points to take a bit of big man scoring pressure off TD and play tolerable D.

[EricB]

3 rebounds is all he could muster?

So much for him being this "fantastic rebounder"

[jag]

3 rebounds is all he could muster?

So much for him being this "fantastic rebounder"

Broski still came up with 17 pts...can't remember the last time Oberto did that.

[mardigan]

3 rebounds is all he could muster?

So much for him being this "fantastic rebounder"

He only played 13 minutes. Cut the guy some slack.

[peskypesky]

Of all the people to hate on you chose Gooden? lol

You gotta hate it when a guy comes off the bench and scores 17. That sucks.

[Borosai]

Manu + Gooden = CHAMPIONSHIP!

[Bulwark]

you forgot something in that equation.

DEFENSE


Gooden looked better in that regard. But, yeah, Manu sometimes relies on help D. Don't think Gooden the guy for that.

[mystargtr34]

He did all that in only 12 minutes. So 3 rebounds isnt even a bad rebounding game.

[completely deck]

toot toot all aboard the Drew Gooden train.

[urunobili]

Broski still came up with 17 pts...can't remember the last time Oberto did that.

:owned

[Cant_Be_Faded]

timvp says the coaches see him as a bigman ron mercer. so i have no doubt he'll be gone in a month.

[Mugen]

3 rebounds is all he could muster?

So much for him being this "fantastic rebounder"

haha i love how you hate on gooden but profess your undying love for finley, vaughn, etc.

[EricB]

Broski still came up with 17 pts...can't remember the last time Oberto did that.


He wasn't brought here to score 17.

He was brought to rebound and he was pathetic in that regard.

[EricB]

haha i love how you hate on gooden but profess your undying love for finley, vaughn, etc.


Explain please headless.

[EricB]

:owned


What happened to the "great rebounder" you prided him on?


Waiting for the answer to that still.


Hell Matt Bonner who everyone here loves to shit on and hate DOUBLED him in rebounds.

[MaNu4Tres]

What happened to the "great rebounder" you prided him on?


Waiting for the answer to that still.


Hell Matt Bonner who everyone here loves to shit on and hate DOUBLED him in rebounds.

How many do you expect him to get in 12-13 minutes?

[xtremesteven33]

Gooden is a good scoring option but from what i see not a player who makes those around him better.

[DAF86]

If some of you have a chance to talk to Pop, tell him that Gooden needs to start.

[DAF86]

What happened to the "great rebounder" you prided him on?


Waiting for the answer to that still.


Hell Matt Bonner who everyone here loves to shit on and hate DOUBLED him in rebounds.

Well, he doubled Drew in minutes too.

[Mugen]

Explain please headless.

you defend finley to no ends but when gooden actually has a good game, you gotta find something to fault.

so testy eh tpark.

[hater]

Well, he doubled Drew in minutes too.

holy shit u got a gay ass avatar

[DAF86]

holy shit u got a gay ass avatar

So I've been told.

[hater]

So I've been told.

my bad. I was gonna post that Marcus Bryant got owned in here but got distracted by ur avatar....

[DAF86]

my bad. I was gonna post that Marcus Bryant got owned in here but got distracted by ur avatar....

You got distracted by my avatar instead of my sig. Who's gay now?

[poop]

yes the avatar is of a gay boy but his sig makes up for it so it makes it ok

[onarollbaby]

Good game Drew! There's good chemistry between Drew and Manu, I saw their plays in the past couple of games. Sometimes a good passer like Manu can jumpstart the confidence of a player and we saw that in a couple of plays when Drew got the ball in proper scoring situations.

[ezau]

Gay avatar.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Here's hoping Pop & RC find a way to keep him next season. He is looking better and better. GoGooden!!!

[DAF86]

Is this avatar straighter?

[mardigan]

Hell Matt Bonner who everyone here loves to shit on and hate DOUBLED him in rebounds.

No he didn't. 3x2 does not equal 5.
Keep trying though.

[onarollbaby]

No he didn't. 3x2 does not equal 5.
Keep trying though.

:lmao

[ezau]

Is this avatar straighter?

hahahahaha

[Buddy Holly]

My god is TPark/EricB retarded.

Gooden put up 17 pts and 3 rbs in 13 minutes and he's still bashing the guy. I can only think that like prior events EricB didn't know shit going into the bashing, he didn't know Gooden played 13 minutes. Did ya?

[spursfan1000]

Gooden has been a great constribution to the Spurs, added a little spice to our team.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

My god is TPark/EricB retarded

The most honest statement ever made on this board.

[jag]

timvp says the coaches see him as a bigman ron mercer. so i have no doubt he'll be gone in a month.

The Spurs are old, slow, and unathletic. A "bigman ron mercer" isn't so bad right now, especially if he can come off the bench and keep the Spurs offensively competitive and grab a few boards.

He's obviously borderline retarded...but maybe he'll be able to use his athleticism to at least survive defensively.


yes the avatar is of a gay boy but his sig makes up for it so it makes it ok

I don't know if you've noticed, brah.

But you're poop.

[Ice009]

3 rebounds is all he could muster?

So much for him being this "fantastic rebounder"

You're being a total dick if you're bagging him after tonight's game.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Gooden is finished. He doesn't have a high bball iq.

[benefactor]

One of the few bright spots today. Maybe he will be worth a look to re-sign in the offseason.

[silk]

If the choice is between him and rasheed , i hope for the latter

But he really played great tonight

[Manufan909]

Most likely. I just wish Bonners contract expired, so there could be a possibility of Tim/KT/Gooden/Ian/Sheed. But with Bonner staying I don't see that happening. And if Gooden contributes at this rate in the POs, I'd rather keep him. Especially since he is a major offensive threat in the low block. Not as great as a 100% TD, but then again, he doesn't get close to the amount of atttention as TD either.

The ease in which he scored today gives me hope for at least the first couple of rounds. He might even be able to get Pau in foul trouble a few games.

[HarlemHeat37]

he's definitely been a great addition..

Pop has more confidence in him now as well..it started off with Drew getting a lot of plays where he'd come off screens and shoot Js..now he's being allowed to play closer to the basket, and it's helping us a lot..

Duncan-Gooden are starting to develop a nice chemistry as well..he's definitely going to help in the playoffs..

[DynastyBuilder]

I still like Manu and Drew leading the 2nd unit...

[de Soto]

Gooden's good. But too little too late. The Spurs are fucked this season.

[benefactor]

I still think he needs to improve on defense if we are going to offer him anything more than MLE money in the offseason. His rotations are still pretty bad. But in his defense, he really needs more time to pick up the system. We'll see how things go in the playoffs.

[spurtech09]

gooden has given the spurs good offense...his defense needs improving.....overall i think hes given spurs some good mins.....now we just need the whole team to be clicking

[completely deck]

gooden has given the spurs good offense...his defense needs improving.....overall i think hes given spurs some good mins.....now we just need the whole team to be clicking

:tu Well said

[Manufan909]

As long as KT or Tim are in when he is, it's all good. At least he's ok 1 on 1, he just needs to learn the D plays better. And Bowen averaging 25+ minutes in the POs would make Gooden look dare I say decent. If Bruce doesn't get at least 30 min against LAL, I will point to that as the main reason the Spurs got knocked out by a Bynumless LAL team, AGAIN.

[Donnie Hathaway]

Drew Goodens so good, his turn around jumpers and his jumpshot game period is so raw but finesse.

[Manufan909]

Good thing he has a crapload of moves to go to, unlike KT. KT needs 3 tries or more for putback after a layup miss, but Gooden would dunk that shit after the ball left the cylinder. KT is as superior at D as Gooden is as O, plus he has chem with the team, so I hope KT about as many as Gooden, with Bonner playing the least. I'd like a start Gooden experiment, but he might be too much of a ballhog.

[Bukefal]

Go gooden! He is a big factor in this team

[Spurs Brazil]

20pts (7-14FG) 4rebs 2blks in 28 minutes :tu

[benefactor]

He even passed the ball some. :)

[Creation88]

awesome game.

[Brazil]

Just I've already said that but his number of rebounds are not very good for the moment. Anyway I'm happy to see a big that can score with Tim, tonite the team shot only 15 3s !

[Borosai]

Good job. More please. Tomorrow.

[DynastyBuilder]

Thanks again Drew... keep it up!

:hungry:

[DAF86]

He has been playing great coming off the bench these last couple of games, but I still think we should start him. I'd love to see him playing 30 plus minutes per game. We need him to keep posting this borderline-all star numbers to get a chance and I think starting him and playing him mayor minutes will help that cause.

[peskypesky]

Too Gooden!!!!!!!

[Samr]

I'm thinking the Spurs can live with this production, no?

I am NOT comparing Gooden to David Robinson, but who can argue that Duncan has seen a better big since him? He may not be able to rebound as advertised, but in the last three games he has scored 17, 15, and now 20 points (18 pt average). Manu, meanwhile averaged 15.5 for this season. He is NOT better, but he may certainly replace Manu as that "third guy we need to plan for" with opponents.

[MaNu4Tres]

Just I've already said that but his number of rebounds are not very good for the moment. Anyway I'm happy to see a big that can score with Tim, tonite the team shot only 15 3s !

If you watched the game Udoka stole about 5 uncontested rebounds from Drew. Drew also had a few tip outs that don't count on the stat sheet.

[Brazil]

If you watched the game Udoka stole about 5 uncontested rebounds from Drew. Drew also had a few tip outs that don't count on the stat sheet.

I watched the second half, you're right but I think he can be better rebounder I'm not complaining just noticing. he is doing a great job with tim

[peskypesky]

I'm thinking the Spurs can live with this production, no?

I am NOT comparing Gooden to David Robinson, but who can argue that Duncan has seen a better big since him? He may not be able to rebound as advertised, but in the last three games he has scored 17, 15, and now 20 points (18 pt average). Manu, meanwhile averaged 15.5 for this season. He is NOT better, but he may certainly replace Manu as that "third guy we need to plan for" with opponents.

Gooden can rebound. Don't worry about that. He's still new to the team. He's finding his footing and getting his rhythm. He's got the scoring down, he's getting the defense down and I think you'll see his rebounding improve in the coming weeks too.

[TimDunkem]

Just I've already said that but his number of rebounds are not very good for the moment. Anyway I'm happy to see a big that can score with Tim, tonite the team shot only 15 3s !

Considering; OKC has many decent individual defenders, Drew was playing with Tim, and Kurt for much of his time off the BENCH, then you add Ime who had 9 rebounds? 4 rebounds for Drew doesn't sound so far fetched. I'm just thankful he was able to bring some much needed offense to the floor plus 2 big blocks.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not worried about his rebounding, Manu4Tres made a good point about Ime's rebounding though..

if Drew Gooden is actually going to play decent D, and even block some shots, then he'll be a good fit here..he's been very impressive..

[wildbill2u]

You have to compare him to Bonner at center. He's starting to consistently put up better numbers so he ought to start. He doesn't have to be a great defensive center just equal to Bonner. He won't spread the floor as much, but then we don't have to count on Bonner hitting 3s either.

[peacemaker885]

I think the most important aspect is how Drew and Tim react to one another when they are both on the court. I can't say that he's playing like Drob in terms of complimenting Tim, but neither was he in Tim's way. I think he's going in the right direction tough. When he's in the game together with Tim we are now front court heavy, giving the wings room to play.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Drew Gooden is becoming the man. I sure hope Pop & RC don't get another of those over-sized corncob's up their ass and let Gooden go to another team next season. If they do then it will be a sunrise hanging for both!!!

[peskypesky]

Drew Gooden is becoming the man. I sure hope Pop & RC don't get another of those over-sized corncob's up their ass and let Gooden go to another team next season. If they do then it will be a sunrise hanging for both!!!

I'll bring the rope.

[Marcus Bryant]

Wait, you expect the Spurs to use their mid-level exception this summer?

[ElNono]

Wait, you expect the Spurs to use their mid-level exception this summer?

Wait, didn't we use the MLE this season?

[MaNu4Tres]

Wait, you expect the Spurs to use their mid-level exception this summer?

If they let Brucie and Fabi go I think they are more likely to.

[Manufan909]

If they let Brucie and Fabi go I think they are more likely to.

Fab, Ime, and JV leaving isnt enough???:depressed I don't want Fin to start next season with Gist and Hairston coming off the bench, I want Fin to retire, and Bowen to teach the rooks D. Not like Hill or Hairston need it, but everyone outside of Timmy does.

[Manufan909]

So how all did he score today, I decided to go oldschool and play Killzone1, cuz I didn't feel like watching on my laptop tonight. Much love to those who let me know, I hope I didn't miss any facials(like the one he pulled on the Cavs but no one had in their highlights, if anyone has a vid of that, hook me up).

[E20]

Gooden and Thomas, the new two headed monster.

[TimDunkem]

So how all did he score today, I decided to go oldschool and play Killzone1, cuz I didn't feel like watching on my laptop tonight. Much love to those who let me know, I hope I didn't miss any facials(like the one he pulled on the Cavs but no one had in their highlights, if anyone has a vid of that, hook me up).

20 pts, 4 rebs, and 2 blocks off the bench in less than 30 minutes of work.

[DAF86]

My dream roster for next season

Parker-Hill
Manu-Mason
Insert young and good defensive SF with a reliable three point shot-Bowen-Hairston
Duncan-Gooden
Rasheed-Mahinmi-Splitter

[Marcus Bryant]

Wait, didn't we use the MLE this season?

You do realize if they do this summer they'll go over the Lux Tax threshold, no?

[ElNono]

You do realize if they do this summer they'll go over the Lux Tax threshold, no?

Did we spend the MLE this season or not? Have this FO ever gone over the Lux tax threshold before or not?

[Spursfan092120]

Tonight was definitely a Good-en.

[Marcus Bryant]

Did we spend the MLE this season or not? Have this FO ever gone over the Lux tax threshold before or not?

This season doesn't matter. If they use it this summer they will go over for next season. They've gone over it exactly once before.

Has this FO given up a top 5 PF in the game because of the Lux Tax threshold?

[Spur|n|Austin]

So how all did he score today, I decided to go oldschool and play Killzone1, cuz I didn't feel like watching on my laptop tonight. Much love to those who let me know, I hope I didn't miss any facials(like the one he pulled on the Cavs but no one had in their highlights, if anyone has a vid of that, hook me up).

He pulled out an arsenal of shots tonight, he looked good..

[Solid D]

I loved his last one. Parker's drive and kick to Gooden on the baseline for the 18 or 19-foot swish right in front of the Thunder bench. He ran down the court with the biggest grin on his face...like he had just gotten over.

[ElNono]

This season doesn't matter. If they use it this summer they will go over for next season. They've gone over it exactly once before.

Has this FO given up a top 5 PF in the game because of the Lux Tax threshold?

If you're talking about Scola, it was more than a simple money problem. Then again, they did screw up with him, IMHO.
That said, they've gone over the Lux Tax when they deemed it was appropriate. So your entire proposition that they won't go over it is really merely an opinion. Plus it's actually a good thing if they can stay competitive and don't go over it.

[DAF86]

My dream roster for next season

Parker-Hill
Manu-Mason
Insert young and good defensive SF with a reliable three point shot-Bowen-Hairston
Duncan-Gooden
Rasheed-Mahinmi-Splitter

Parker-Hill
Manu-Mason
Ariza-Bowen-Hairston
Duncan-Gooden
Rasheed-Mahinmi-Splitter

I would love to sign Ariza but is pretty much impossible.

[Manufan909]

He pulled out an arsenal of shots tonight, he looked good..

Timmy at 90% or more is more potent offensively, but Gooden still has a damn big arsenal of offensive moves, fadeaways, reverse layups(not Fab style with a feed, he does it iso), hooks, dunks. I really love how he plays above the rim.

[Marcus Bryant]

If you're talking about Scola, it was more than a simple money problem. Then again, they did screw up with him, IMHO.
That said, they've gone over the Lux Tax when they deemed it was appropriate. So your entire proposition that they won't go over it is really merely an opinion. Plus it's actually a good thing if they can stay competitive and don't go over it.

They've gone over it once. Once. BFD. Obviously they are planning to maintain significant cap flexibility in the 2010 offseason as well. That's another reason they won't use the MLE this summer.

[EricB]

Great game from Gooden tonight.

While his rebounding was Francisco Bonner like, his offense was damn good and he actually gave effort on defense and looked semi decent.

Hope to see more of these in the coming weeks, and if he can pull down rebounds like he was brought in to do, then all the better.

I'm hoping Drew Gooden isn't Samaki Walker redux.

[TDMVPDPOY]

My dream roster for next season

Parker-Hill
Manu-Mason
Insert young and good defensive SF with a reliable three point shot-Bowen-Hairston
Duncan-Gooden
Rasheed-Mahinmi-Splitter

james gists biatchs holla

[Manufan909]

Since I missed last nights game, everytime Tim and Gooden hooked up against the Cavs, and Tim probably won't play tonight, what do y'all think of the chem starting between them I've been hearing about on ST?

It makes me so fucking excited to think of the 09-10 Spurs having an inside game like LAL, LAC, or Phoenix. Add all the young blood and a healthy and rested Big 3, as well as JV, Ime, and Fab finally being gone to that possibility, and I think next season could be the most exciting in my short Spursfans life.

[completely deck]

toot toot!

vs. UTA: 29 minutes, 6-14 FG, 2-2 FT, 14 points, 4 rebounds, 1 steal

[peskypesky]

Gooden is the by far the best post player Tim has played with since DRob. Did you see his moves tonight? Awesome.

[Manufan909]

Hope he shows off his moves Sunday, I will actually get to watch that game.

[Kori Ellis]

He will be a real contributor night and night out, if he learns to pass the ball back out. He becomes a black hole and, so whether he scores or not, it kills the offense which frustrates his teammates and the coaches. He just needs to trust that if he's covered, he can pass it and he'll get the ball back again. I know that it will be difficult for him to changes his ways and this team needs scoring however they can get it, but he just needs to be a little bit less of a black hole.

[underdawg]

Great game from Gooden tonight.

While his rebounding was Francisco Bonner like, his offense was damn good and he actually gave effort on defense and looked semi decent.

Hope to see more of these in the coming weeks, and if he can pull down rebounds like he was brought in to do, then all the better.

I'm hoping Drew Gooden isn't Samaki Walker redux.

Similar styles of play - you might be on to something. Where do you come up with that crap?

[crc21209]

Drew Gooden is playing pretty good right now. I want more Gooden and Thomas in the Playoffs...and less Bonner.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bonner really has to start playing small minutes..like 10-15 MPG..

Matt can be a good spark of offense when we need one..it's nice to see that his 3-point stroke is starting to look good again..he just isn't mean to be a guy that plays big minutes..he just doesn't have the physical tools, and he commits way too many stupid fouls..

[completely deck]

Bonner is F'ing crappy. Whe Drew doesn't start I have no idea. Only thing I can think of is Pop is an idiot, which might be true.

Calling Pop an idiot not only shows your stupidity, it further proves how terrible of a poster you are

[SenorSpur]

Drew Gooden is becoming the man. I sure hope Pop & RC don't get another of those over-sized corncob's up their ass and let Gooden go to another team next season. If they do then it will be a sunrise hanging for both!!!

Amen! And I'll bring the hoods.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I don't mind Drew coming off the bench because otherwise we'll have no one who can score and create their own shot on the 2nd unit.

[SenorSpur]

He will be a real contributor night and night out, if he learns to pass the ball back out. He becomes a black hole and, so whether he scores or not, it kills the offense which frustrates his teammates and the coaches. He just needs to trust that if he's covered, he can pass it and he'll get the ball back again. I know that it will be difficult for him to changes his ways and this team needs scoring however they can get it, but he just needs to be a little bit less of a black hole.

Agree. He needs to less of a black hole. I also think that trust factor needs to go both ways. A couple of times, he's been open and didn't get the back because of a quick shot from a guard on the perimeter. Sean brought that up during the telecast that Gooden is so good offensively, if he's got it rolling, teammates should look for him.

[SenorSpur]

Drew Gooden is playing pretty good right now. I want more Gooden and Thomas in the Playoffs...and less Bonner.

Maybe next season Bonner will be relegated to the bench and Gooden, assuming the Spurs resign him, wins the starting job.

[Manufan909]

Maybe next season Bonner will be relegated to the bench and Gooden, assuming the Spurs resign him, wins the starting job.

Imagine how nuts that starting line will be: Tony, Mason, anyone but Fin, Tim, Gooden. With both Tim and Gooden 100%, and with Gooden actually knowing the plays for the most part, this team will be scary good, as long as the injury bug leaves this team alone.

[bigdog]

I'm really starting to like Drew Gooden. He is a beast on offense, but he does need to calm down and not rush himself sometimes. Also, like others said, he needs to pass the ball sometimes, but like Sean said today they really need to feed the ball to him when he's got it going. they should probably give it to him every time if Tim is out of the game.

[alchemist]

the Spurs need to keep Gooden near the basket at all times, let Bonner or Kurt run the screens because Gooden is so good near the basket. His post game helps the Spurs a lot, his footwork is actually pretty damn good too.

[lefty]

Googoo !

[silverblackfan]

He was impressive as hell tonight. Taking a charge? Are you kidding me? The guy had some moves and is actually buying into the system with defensive effort and even some assists. More than I expected, but pleasantly so.

[TheSpursFNRule]

I'd love to keep gooden and get a small foward.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't even mind the ball hogging..I would like him to reset sometimes after he's getting offensive boards though, instead of tipping or rushing up a bad shot..

[SpursFan0728]

Just for curiosity, any think spurs could sign him for MLE? or more?

[EricB]

His rebounding and defense still suck and he's still a ball hog.

This guy is Ron Mercer and Nazr Mohammed combined.

[Ice009]

His rebounding and defense still suck and he's still a ball hog.

This guy is Ron Mercer and Nazr Mohammed combined.

Gooden has contributed to some wins this season by stepping up on offense when no one else would. He's even trying on defense.

He definitely has some flaws like not setting screens too well, getting cheap fouls and not looking to pass back to his team mates, but I will take it right now. If he can improve on all those areas he will be great for us. I think he's already showing signs of improvement.

Take your hate someplace else.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm just saying..can you imagine how bad we would be right now if Gooden wasn't on this team? with Manu out, we've DESPERATELY needed his scoring..great pickup..

[SenorSpur]

Because he likes the ball on the block, that alone could lessen some of the pounding on Timmy - at least when they're on the court together. We all know there's not been another low post scorer on this roster since... since....well, you get the picture.

[benefactor]

His rebounding and defense still suck and he's still a ball hog.

This guy is Ron Mercer and Nazr Mohammed combined.
Oh how quickly we forget where this team was just a few short months ago. We have been begging for ANY sort of help on the front line all season long...and you want to nitpick about a scoring big who we signed for the minimum?

15ppg over the last 5 games. Just stfu.

[Rogue]

What Gooden is supposed to do is just some dirty works like grabbing rebounds and acting as a shield in front Tim against the opponent beasts like Millsap. I'm very delignted to see Drew played beyond our expectations last night, but his points will definitely be shortened when the defensive becomes much tougher in the post season. Gooden is also pretty good at scoring but the main reason he used to earn an above mid-level contract is just his great defensive skills and rebounding work.

[SenorSpur]

Oh how quickly we forget where this team was just a few short months ago. We have been begging for ANY sort of help on the front line all season long...and you want to nitpick about a scoring big who we signed for the minimum?

Amen!

Can the combo of Oberto, KT and Bonner even come close to that level of production? I think not.

[spurspokesman]

Amen!

Can the combo of Oberto, KT and Bonner even come close to that level of production? I think not.

Exactly. This guy actually can be called A post player. Why? He actually posts up and haS MOVES. HE is by far the best big weve seen since D Rob and if sheed aint possible Id say keep em. I like Drew as A player and I know hell put forth the effort on D if he stays. And he really has N INTEREST IN BEING HERE. That's rare. He will have offers elsewhere if we dont keep him. BOOK IT.

[Buddy Holly]

Like Sean was saying last night. Drew needs to get the ball more often.

[spurs_50_21]

I don't mind Drew coming off the bench because otherwise we'll have no one who can score and create their own shot on the 2nd unit.


i agree,but i would like to see more of tim and drew on floor at same time,when the matchups allow it

[exstatic]

The one thing that's starting to bother me, other than his black hole properties, is he is beginning to balk at coming out to set screens. When Parker is on the floor, YOU SET HIM A FUCKING SCREEN. PERIOD. He's a Finals MVP and a 3 time All Star, and you need to make YOUR game complement his. Parker had to wave him out several times last night, when he should have just come out automatically. Drew still doesn't trust that a solid screen on the perimeter is going to get him either a layup on the "roll", or a 12-14 footer on the "pop". His rebounding going off the cliff isn't making me happy, either. Even if you adjust for minutes, he's dropped from 8.6 in Chicago to 6.9 (adjusted) here. Step it up, Drew.

Now for the good: He does have a nice variety of post moves, a consistent jumper, and a much better ability to drive and score than I was aware of. If he can just mesh into more of a "team" mode, he'd be as big a pickup as Gasol. He's been in the league for 7 years, now, though, so that kind of transformation isn't much more likely than 50/50. I think we should sign him this summer, and if it doesn't work out, he becomes a trade asset for 2010.

[AFBlue]

An offer to Drew Gooden this summer isn't even a question. The question is, how much does he think he's worth in this market and what will the Spurs be willing to pay. I think 3yrs at $4M a year is reasonable, but the Spurs may have other ideas.

About the "black hole" criticism, I think it's just going to take time for him to adjust to the team and more importantly...for the team to adjust to him. If he does give consistent offense and at the very least apply pressure to the interior then he is a valuable asset. But, with two legit superstars they have to collectively to find the right fit/blend.

For me...Gooden off the bench w/ Roger running the point is the best combo right now.

[bigdog]

An offer to Drew Gooden this summer isn't even a question. The question is, how much does he think he's worth in this market and what will the Spurs be willing to pay. I think 3yrs at $4M a year is reasonable, but the Spurs may have other ideas.

About the "black hole" criticism, I think it's just going to take time for him to adjust to the team and more importantly...for the team to adjust to him. If he does give consistent offense and at the very least apply pressure to the interior then he is a valuable asset. But, with two legit superstars they have to collectively to find the right fit/blend.

For me...Gooden off the bench w/ Roger running the point is the best combo right now.

I agree with most of your post, but Roger running the point shouldn't even be an option. The guy is NOT a point guard.

[Manufan909]

Damn, Gooden had an off night against the Kings. He didn't work his post game nearly as much as I've seen him do lately. He should feast on GS, as long as Turiaf can't check him. If Tim and Drew are on, Ronny will find himself in foul trouble real quick.

[Spursmania]

Gooden is due for a good might tonight. Let's go "Big Drizzle"
:flag::flag:

[Manufan909]

Big Drizzle!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Manufan909]

And does my sig only show up twice for me, or does everyone else see 2? Cuz I thought your sig only showed up once on any given page.

[completely deck]

Drew was...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ia7wy8.jpg

@GSW 4/14: 22 minutes, 20 PTS on 7-12 FG, 6-8 FT, 15 REBs

[Manufan909]

Drew was...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ia7wy8.jpg

@GSW 4/14: 22 minutes, 20 PTS on 7-12 FG, 6-8 FT, 15 REBs

+90:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

monstrous game..

[timvp]

20 and 15 is 22 minutes?

Not bad.

:smokin

[Manufan909]

20 and 15 is 22 minutes?

Not bad.

:smokin

But, but, but... He's a black hole!!!!

- itsoweezee

[SouthTexasRancher]

Like Sean was saying last night. Drew needs to get the ball more often.


Damn straight...! Gooden keeps playing like this and Peter Holt will bring out the checkbook. Gooden is just what this team has needed since Manu is out till next season. If we end up playing the Fakers then we have someone who when matched up with Tim, can keep Bynum & Gasol honest. And if Bonner is hitting his 3's and Thomas is playing like a Mike Singletary Middle Linebacker then Phil JackASS will be pulling everything he can out of his ASS trying to match the Spurs. And with Bowen back in the rotation again we'll have someone who can really make Kobe exert more energy than usual.

[Bukefal]

About the "black hole" criticism, I think it's just going to take time for him to adjust to the team and more importantly...for the team to adjust to him.

Exactly, he needs to find his way in the team, its normal, anyway, he does great, better than i had expected when spurs signed him.

[kace]

The one thing that's starting to bother me, other than his black hole properties, is he is beginning to balk at coming out to set screens. When Parker is on the floor, YOU SET HIM A FUCKING SCREEN. PERIOD. He's a Finals MVP and a 3 time All Star, and you need to make YOUR game complement his. Parker had to wave him out several times last night, when he should have just come out automatically. Drew still doesn't trust that a solid screen on the perimeter is going to get him either a layup on the "roll", or a 12-14 footer on the "pop". His rebounding going off the cliff isn't making me happy, either. Even if you adjust for minutes, he's dropped from 8.6 in Chicago to 6.9 (adjusted) here. Step it up, Drew.

Now for the good: He does have a nice variety of post moves, a consistent jumper, and a much better ability to drive and score than I was aware of. If he can just mesh into more of a "team" mode, he'd be as big a pickup as Gasol. He's been in the league for 7 years, now, though, so that kind of transformation isn't much more likely than 50/50. I think we should sign him this summer, and if it doesn't work out, he becomes a trade asset for 2010.

i think you perfectly sumed up the thing.

good point: ability to score (i agree with you that i didn't think he would have so many moves)

can do better: rebound. he's supposed to be a good rebounder. the game yesterday proved that. hope he'll keep on.

bad: his screens are awful.

but you can suppose rebounding will come and screens setting and team movement can be learnt (even if the PO are already there). i can't think no one, especially Pop, won't tell him to set fuckin' real solid screens.

[Lackluster]

Gooden is just what this team has needed since Manu is out till next season.

i agree. he really does make a great interim 6th man for us. instant offense off the bench, athletic energy, and some aggressive work on the glass.

if he can mix in a clutch defensive play or two he'd really fit the bill for us.

[completely deck]

Another great game by Good'n'Plenty!
Game 2 vs DAL:
19 mins, 6-9 FG, 1-1 FT, 14 PTS, 3 REB, 1 STL

[Borosai]

His points are so important without Manu out there.

[benefactor]

X-Factor....

[Spurs Brazil]

Great job, especially in the 2nd quarter when TD and TP were on the bench

[Buddy Holly]

He does so much damage in the paint.

[Manufan909]

He does so much damage in the paint.

Makes you wonder why he didn't get any post scoring opportunities in the 2nd half. He end the 1st with 80% FG, and ended the game with 66% FG, I officially have a Gooden mancrush. I really hope Gooden averages more points than Bonner in the @ Dallas games.

[rayray2k8]

this man needs more minutes..
how bonner get than gooden is beyond me..
Fuck all you bonner lovers btw. :toast

[Manufan909]

this man needs more minutes..
how bonner get than gooden is beyond me..
Fuck all you bonner lovers btw. :toast

Too be fair, he was a bit hurt. And Bonner looks like a shorter, lighter, retarded Horry to Pop, he can't help himself. Hope Gooden slows down with the furious slams, he needs to bring it up weak to get some Pop love.:lol

[spursfan09]

I love what he is doing!!!!!

[Borosai]

this man needs more minutes..
how bonner get than gooden is beyond me..
Fuck all you bonner lovers btw. :toast

Sleep with one eye open tonight. Bonner doesn't mess around.