lakers vs mavs tomorrow afternoon

[mabrignani]

this is one of the only times you will ever hear me say this but, lets go lakers beat the mavs.
i would love to see the mavs not even make the playoffs so all the mark cuban dick lickers will finally take their bullshit somewhere else. if they do make the playoffs i guess it will still be funny to see them get knocked out 1st round. but even after that they will still prolly pull another excuse out of they ass

[SpursDynasty]

Dallas won't come close unless they shoot like 2005-2007.

[dirk4mvp]

mabrignani is making her case for worst poster at st.

[TheMACHINE]

This is gonna be a cakewalk for LA.

[iggypop123]

i expect the mavs to go nuts from the 3 point line then in the second half die a fast death

[mabrignani]

def a cakewalk, there is no one on the mavs that can fuck with the lakers. as much as i despise the lakers i recognize talent and skill and give them props when props are due.

[mavs>spurs2]

def a cakewalk, there is no one on the mavs that can fuck with the lakers. as much as i despise the lakers i recognize talent and skill and give them props when props are due.

No wonder you're a laker fanboy, Marco. Kobe grew up in Italy after all.

[dirk4mvp]

def a cakewalk, there is no one on the mavs that can fuck with the lakers. as much as i despise the lakers i recognize talent and skill and give them props when props are due.

Dirk rapes Gasol just as much if not more than he does Bowen/Duncan when they try to guard him.

[dirk4mvp]

In fact, Gasol is probably Dirk's #1 whipping boy.

[21_Blessings]

In fact, Gasol is probably Dirk's #1 whipping boy.

What's your point? Odom will be guarding Dirk. He has had some favorable defensive games against Dirk in the past.

[dirk4mvp]

What's your point? Odom will be guarding Dirk. He has had some favorable defensive games against Dirk in the past.


Well considering the way Odumb's been playing lately after having that stretch were he was a beast, Dirk will probably have a big day against him.

[21_Blessings]

Well when Dirk is feeling it no in the league can really guard him. I'm just saying, Odom matches up well with Dirk in general. Quick enough to guard him on the perimeter and long enough to get a hand in his face consistently.

[mavs>spurs2]

Odom, Haslem, and anyone else who is allowed by ref to play the new "Dirk stopping defense" we've been seeing lately are the ones who give Dirk the most trouble. And by "Dirk stopping defense," I mean getting up under him and bodying him up so you have a leverage advantage and constantly pushing him away from the rim and slapping wildly, without getting called for your antics. Teams have been doing this alot lately, if anyone else has noticed. Haslem invented this tactic, although no one else duplicates it correctly and just looks like that fouling douchebag that we all hate at your local YMCA or park.

[pauls931]

i expect the mavs to go nuts from the 3 point line then in the second half die a fast death

If nelson was still coach I'd agree.

[mavs>spurs2]

:lol

[Udokafan05]

I hope dallas stays in 8th spot and faces Lakers in 1st round. I think dallas will give la problems.

[lurker]

The only problem Dallas will give the Lakers is deciding what to do with the free time they'll have before the second round starts.

[Rogue]

lakers suck everytime they face the "suns", so they're gonna suck in the afternoon when the sun still will be in sky.

[monosylab1k]

Dallas will keep it close for 3 quarters, then when it's time to get serious, the Lakers will go on their usual 15-0 run and win by 20.

[sribb43]

Dallas will keep it close for 3 quarters, then when it's time to get serious, the Lakers will go on their usual 15-0 run and win by 20.

Just like the last 4 or 5 times the Mavs have played in LA...whether it be Kidd missing a free throw or Bass not blocking out Odom or Kobe being guarded by Stack 1 on 1 so he can take over in the 4th

[Ghazi]

It is what it is. The Lakers are a better team and always take it to a gear we can't match. They do it v everyone in the league and we obviously are no different.

I'm surprised they haven't blown us out in any of the last 5 games.

Just hoping for a good game, I'm content with the road trip given the circumstances anyway (we suck, 2-2 on this road trip is good for us).

[Ghazi]

Ariza was a big x-factor in the first 2 games and Dirk was quiet both times.

J-How was out both times as well.

Guys in blues' bench contributions are what allowed the first 2 games to be close, which is surprising. kidd has 2 great games.

[sook]

Well considering the way Odumb's been playing lately after having that stretch were he was a beast, Dirk will probably have a big day against him.

I hope you're getting your ass lubed already :lol

[dirk4mvp]

lmao at this faggot getting mad over me saying Scola is ugly. Says alot about you.

[sook]

lmao at this faggot getting mad over me saying Scola is ugly. Says alot about you.

Yea...I'm deff made you called Scola ugly :rolleyes



All I'm seeing is you getting all but hurt every time i say something :rollin

[dirk4mvp]

Yea...I'm deff made you called Scola ugly :rolleyes





Uh, you are. Since then, you've went into about 4 different threads and quoted one of my post to say some gay shit.

[RedsLakers24]

Mavs always play the lakers tough so i expect a close game

[MambaJuice2408]

Odom, Haslem, and anyone else who is allowed by ref to play the new "Dirk stopping defense" we've been seeing lately are the ones who give Dirk the most trouble. And by "Dirk stopping defense," I mean getting up under him and bodying him up so you have a leverage advantage and constantly pushing him away from the rim and slapping wildly, without getting called for your antics. Teams have been doing this alot lately, if anyone else has noticed. Haslem invented this tactic, although no one else duplicates it correctly and just looks like that fouling douchebag that we all hate at your local YMCA or park.

Put the ball on the floor and take it strong to the rim..

His style allows people to stop him. Not always the ref

[UrAphag]

Finally a fucking forum where you can talk about fucking basketball and fucking cuss. I love this shit.


Lakers by 15

[NewJerSpur]

lakers suck everytime they face the "suns", so they're gonna suck in the afternoon when the sun still will be in sky.

Man, that's just as hollow and corny as that "rock, scissors, paper" nonsense you bring to the main forum.

Seriously though, unless the Lakers are totally undisciplined or in a giving mood this game should be over real fast. The Mavs will hit some shots early to make it interesting, but: the Lakers (Kobe), at home, on a Sunday, on ABC, AGAINST THE 8TH SEED?!

[BeeGee]

lakers suck everytime they face the "suns", so they're gonna suck in the afternoon when the sun still will be in sky.I nominate this for "worst post of the month". You should have your pc revoked for even bothering to brainstorm for 5 hours and come up with that brilliance. Is that Suns haiku or some shit?:loser

[Sportstudi]

Put the ball on the floor and take it strong to the rim..

His style allows people to stop him. Not always the ref

Maybe not always, but very often.
Nevertheless, I wouldn't wonder about a blowout. We ever had problems with LA, thus...

[wijayas]

I pick the Mavs to win this game. Lakers is too comfortable and is on cruise control. Mavs is making sure its place in the playoff is secure and is going to give 110%.

Go Mavs!

[wijayas]

Finally a fucking forum where you can talk about fucking basketball and fucking cuss. I love this shit.


Lakers by 15

Welcome! :toast

[stretch]

Mavs always play the Lakers tough and put themselves in positions to win the game, but them kick themselves in the ass in the late 4th with stupid mistakes.

[stretch]

lakers suck everytime they face the "suns", so they're gonna suck in the afternoon when the sun still will be in sky.

:tu

i nominate this for post of the year

:toast

[baseline bum]

this is one of the only times you will ever hear me say this but, lets go lakers beat the mavs.
i would love to see the mavs not even make the playoffs so all the mark cuban dick lickers will finally take their bullshit somewhere else. if they do make the playoffs i guess it will still be funny to see them get knocked out 1st round. but even after that they will still prolly pull another excuse out of they ass

It'll never happen. Dallas is 5 games ahead of the #9 seed with 16 games to go. No way the Suns are making that up.

[Shank]

Eh, we'll see what happens today.

[aka_USAPA]

I pick the Mavs to win this game. Lakers is too comfortable and is on cruise control. Mavs is making sure its place in the playoff is secure and is going to give 110%.

Go Mavs!

I disagree. The Lakers are on a push for the best record in the league for the HCA. Plus, they are trying to gain momentum into the playoffs. Jackson usually gets them to peak around this time of the year. Lakers by 10.

And to that Mavs homer who said Dirk owns Pau... :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[dirk4mvp]

And to that Mavs homer who said Dirk owns Pau... :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

That's pretty well known knowledge that Pau still have cum stains on his face over the course of his career.

[aka_USAPA]

Pau Gasol is sure owning Dirk right now. LOL.

[sook]

Dirk needs to play SF imo, he is much better suited at t hat position

[aka_USAPA]

That's pretty well known knowledge that Pau still have cum stains on his face over the course of his career.

Living in the past, are we? Are you going to start talking of when the Mavs made it to the Finals years ago now? :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[sook]

That's pretty well known knowledge that Pau still have cum stains on his face over the course of his career.

What a dumb argument Gasol is avging 19ppg on close to 60% shooting...

Yea, i'll take the guy with the midrange and solid low post game over the one that runs to the corner and shoots fadeaways :lol

[dirk4mvp]

You're probably under the impression that Pau is better than Dirk too, right?

[dirk4mvp]

What a dumb argument Gasol is avging 19ppg on close to 60% shooting...

Yea, i'll take the guy with the midrange and solid low post game over the one that runs to the corner and shoots fadeaways :lol


Go ahead and do that, I'll take the better player.

[Muser]

Pau is a beast tonight.

[sribb43]

It would be great if the Mavs actually had a shooting guard that could "shoot"....on offense mavs always have Barea and Wright or George open in the corner and shoot in the low 30's in 3's....Those guys dont play good enough D to warrant consistent playing time anyways. Shit throw Carroll in there to spot up in the corner and shoot set shot 3's

[sribb43]

Van Gundy should be the Mavs GM...he recognizes how shitty the Mavs bench is, unlike Donnie

[Ghazi]

What a dumb argument Gasol is avging 19ppg on close to 60% shooting...

Yea, i'll take the guy with the midrange and solid low post game over the one that runs to the corner and shoots fadeaways :lol

No you would'nt. Get over it, Scola is UGGGLY

[aka_USAPA]

You're probably under the impression that Pau is better than Dirk too, right?

I like Dirk but for what the Lakers need, Pau is a better fit. More versatile, very high basketball IQ, plays a lot better defense than Dirk, won't back down even though he is not the strongest PF there is, tough mentally, a winner. Like what the Rocket fan said, Dirk is a jump shooter. I like Pau for what the Lakers need him to be.

[aka_USAPA]

It would be great if the Mavs actually had a shooting guard that could "shoot"....on offense mavs always have Barea and Wright or George open in the corner and shoot in the low 30's in 3's....Those guys dont play good enough D to warrant consistent playing time anyways. Shit throw Carroll in there to spot up in the corner and shoot set shot 3's

Would be great if you had Kobe, huh? :lol:lol:lol:lol

[sribb43]

Would be great if you had Kobe, huh? :lol:lol:lol:lol

fuck Kobe...i'd take someone like Wally World to sit in the corner and stroke the 3

[dirk4mvp]

I like Dirk but for what the Lakers need, Pau is a better fit. More versatile, very high basketball IQ, plays a lot better defense than Dirk, won't back down even though he is not the strongest PF there is, tough mentally, a winner. Like what the Rocket fan said, Dirk is a jump shooter. I like Pau for what the Lakers need him to be.

Sorry, but Dirk is better in every aspect of the game than fucking Pau Gasol is.

[DrHouse]

Dirk is a better shooter than Pau, but that's about it.

I would rather have Gasol than Dirk on the Lakers

[dirk4mvp]

Dirk is a better shooter than Pau, but that's about it.

I would rather have Gasol than Dirk on the Lakers


Considering your takes are about as smart as SD's, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

[Ghazi]

Mavs left too many points off the scoreboard.

[aka_USAPA]

Gasol is a better fit than Dirk for the Lakers. I'd like to see Dirk play center. LMAO!!!!

[DrHouse]

Considering your takes are about as smart as SD's, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Dirk could not step in and play C on the Lakers the way Pau has with Bynum out.

[dirk4mvp]

Gasol is a better fit than Dirk for the Lakers. I'd like to see Dirk play center. LMAO!!!!

Considering he used to play center alot during Nellie ball, you're point doesn't make any sense. How long have you watched basketball? And considering Gasol's balls fell off last year when he had to play C, that's not something I'd brag about.

[dirk4mvp]

Seriously, which one of you lakerfans told your retarded cousin to sign up?

[aka_USAPA]

Sorry, but Dirk is better in every aspect of the game than fucking Pau Gasol is.

Is that why Dirk is 4/13 and Pau is 10/10? :lol:lol:lol

[Ghazi]

JET is 7-31 from behind the arc on this road trip... jeeeez.

[DrHouse]

Considering he used to play center alot during Nellie ball, you're point doesn't make any sense. How long have you watched basketball? And considering Gasol's balls fell off last year when he had to play C, that's not something I'd brag about.

This isn't about who's the better player, Dirk obviously is. He's just not as good a fit as Pau on the Lakers.

[Zee Laker]

Sorry, but Dirk is better in every aspect of the game than fucking Pau Gasol is.


I am guessing you havnt seen Pau in the post

[DPG21920]

They just said dirk is 16-45 this year against the Lakers. That does not bode well for the playoff match-up. The Lakers just have too many guys that can make Dirk settle.

[DPG21920]

Dirk has more of an impact offensively, but Pau is a better slasher/passer than Dirk.

[dirk4mvp]

I am guessing you havnt seen Pau in the post


You mean where he faces up and drives with a loud yell?

[DPG21920]

The Yell is so stupid and annoying. LO does it as well.

[aka_USAPA]

Considering he used to play center alot during Nellie ball, you're point doesn't make any sense. How long have you watched basketball? And considering Gasol's balls fell off last year when he had to play C, that's not something I'd brag about.

Opppss, my bad. Let's clarify. I'd like to see Dirk play center as a STARTER for a CHAMPIONSHIP team. :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[Allanon]

I like Dirk alot but he's been pretty poor against the Lakers this year.

[Zee Laker]

You mean where he faces up and drives with a loud yell?


Cmon man. Pau can finish with both hands, face up or play with his back to the basket. Dirks weakness is he cant post up

[dirk4mvp]

Opppss, my bad. Let's clarify. I'd like to see Dirk play center as a STARTER for a CHAMPIONSHIP team. :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

When's Pau done this?

[aka_USAPA]

When's Pau done this?

Dude, you need to learn to read. Didn't Pau play as the starting center for the Lakers last year when they played for the championship?

[sook]

TURTLE SHIT is 7-31 from behind the arc on this road trip... jeeeez.

[Holmes_Fans]

Dude, you need to learn to read. Didn't Pau play as the starting center for the Lakers last year who played for the championship?

That would make them a RUNNER UP. Not a championship team. You don't make the finals and say you are a championship team.

With your logic Dirk was a starting PF for a championship team :lol

[aka_USAPA]

That would make them a RUNNER UP. Not a championship team. You don't make the finals and say you are a championship team.

With your logic Dirk was a starting PF for a championship team :lol

Stay with the discussion. We are talking about Gasol being the better fit for the Lakers than Dirk is. I don't think the Lakers will be as successful with Dirk than Pau. That's been the point.

[aka_USAPA]

Dang, this is a lay-up drill for the Lakers.

[dirk4mvp]

Seriously, which one of you lakerfans told your retarded cousin to sign up?

Someone's got some answers.

[dirk4mvp]

Dude, you need to learn to read. Didn't Pau play as the starting center for the Lakers last year when they played for the championship?

You said for a championship team. Was Jim Kelly the starting Qb for 4 championship teams?

[Ghazi]

Dirk did win a championship in 2006, but that's besides the point.

Anyway, Mavs just don't have the talent to hang with the Lakers today or most days. That + missed layuops, FT's by Dirk, and open 3's by JET and we're down by 15.

Meh, I won't be too upset unless this gets really ugly.

[DPG21920]

Lakers are just a terrible match up for the Lakers bc they have too many guys that bother Dirk defensively.

[aka_USAPA]

You said for a championship team. Was Jim Kelly the starting Qb for 4 championship teams?

I guess somebody does not know the definition of championship. :lol:lol:lol:lol

cham·pi·on·ship - A competition or series of competitions held to determine a winner.

Learn boy. Learn.

[Holmes_Fans]

That is the completely wrong context dumbass. You are saying that the Lakers are a series of competitions or series that are held to determine a winner.

[DPG21920]

Sick pump fake by Dirk, he must hit that shot though.

[aka_USAPA]

That is the completely wrong context dumbass. You are saying that the Lakers are a series of competitions or series that are held to determine a winner.

Huh? :wow:wow:wow:wow:wow

That's your interpretation. Use my exact words, not a figment of your imagination. :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Ghazi]

lol what a shot by Terry.

We're shootin too many 3's though, but its hard to manufacture offense otherwise.

[lurker]

Jet deserves better teammates.

[Allanon]

Lakers lead, Dallas fights back in the 3rd quarter.

Have we seen this before? Hahah, it's like freakin' clockwork everytime Lakers play Mavs.

[Amarelooms]

Can Wright make a freakin 3????? All the Mavs need are shooters who can actually hit like 40% of their 3's

[DPG21920]

Jet hitting shots, Lakers getting complacent.

[Texas_Ranger]

85 - 87 :rollin

[Amarelooms]

Wright is horrible....GET HIM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ghazi]

NICE play Dirk to Singleton!

Lol this is such a cocktease, Im not gonna get too excited. But its fun to watch.

[sook]

mavs are forgetting one thing...Kobe is on the bench :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Lakers seem to forget about Gasol a lot..I have no idea why, but I've seen this in multiple Laker games this year..the guy has COMPLETELY dominated the game and is drawing double teams, but they're jacking up bad shots instead..

the Lakers are possibly the best in the NBA, but their fans must be worried about having Farmar and Vujacic play significant minutes..neither one of them has a brain..

[Thunder Dan]

the Lakers are pulling a Clippers

[IronMexican]

Vujacic and Walton doong they're job...sucking

[Muser]

Kobe gonna come on and go on his normal 15-0 run.

[Allanon]

Their fans must be worried about having Farmar and Vujacic play significant minutes..neither one of them has a brain..

This is why the Lakers need Odom back on the bench when Bynum's back. He brings a leader to the 2nd unit. Although having Bynum come off the bench as the leader sounds good too.

As for the game, this is the way it's been all year when the Lakers meet the Mavs. Mavs always get a comeback on the Lakers.

[DPG21920]

Thing about the Lakers is they will always be in every game. Mavs can play hard and rally, but they have to play perfectly just to have a shot. Same goes for every other team probably as well.

[Amarelooms]

Yeah Kobe gonna come in and kill the Mavs. Still this is how they gotta play. WRIGHT BETTER NOT COME BACK IN!!!!!!!!!

[Todd]

this is why the Lakers can't be considered the favorites

[Many PackYao]

lol @ the Lakers!:lol Where is Kobe and why is he not using his sumo defensive stance on Terry now that he got hot?

[IronMexican]

Sasha!

[DrHouse]

:lmao Jason Terry is unconscious.

Lakers sucking fat dick trying to beat this zone.

Sasha VUJABRICK in full form today. What a joke he is, get this Euro trash off the court.

[Todd]

Championship teams don't blow 15 point leads at home

[DrHouse]

My God Vujabrick is so bad.

What a worthless player.

Get him off the floor, lol.

[IronMexican]

Sasha!!

[Allanon]

Ariza & Odom will get back in and close this game out.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I can see why Vujabitch has the nickname "The Machine", he just shoots out brick after brick with machine-like productivity.

[DrHouse]

Championship teams don't blow 15 point leads at home

Do championship teams lose to the Clippers?

The Lakers cruised and it bit them in the ass.

[DrHouse]

It's incredible how bad a shooter Vujabrick is. His entire purpose for being in the NBA is to shoot the basketball and he cannot do that.

[Todd]

Do championship teams lose to the Clippers?

The Lakers cruised and it bit them in the ass.

Championship teams don't blow 15 point leads on their home court

[DrHouse]

Why isn't Odom in the game?

Fuck I love you Powell but Odom is better.

[DrHouse]

Championship teams don't blow 15 point leads on their home court

Since when?

LOL the 3-peat Lakers would coast all the time and lose to garbage teams.

[Warlord23]

How is that not a foul on Powell?

[IronMexican]

I hope the Lakers lose, just so Phil yanks Sasha.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Rise of the machine......that's some funny shit.

[Todd]

I've followed the Lakers all year, and they lack that killer instinct that all championship teams share. They might make it as far at the Western Conference Finals, but they will be golfing in June

[HarlemHeat37]

this game is irrelevant to LA, why would they go all out in a meaningless game?..stupid logic..

Dirk is gonna have to start doing ANYTHING for the Mavs to win this..

[Ghazi]

Dirk has missed some critical shots today.

We need some Dirk.

[Allanon]

Rise of the machine......that's some funny shit.

More like demise of the Machine. :lol

He's had a sucky year.

[Amarelooms]

Lakers should let the Mavs win to screw over the Suns :elephant

[LA24]

Yawn. Lakers will win.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I hope the Lakers lose, just so Phil yanks Sasha.

Phil will never yank Sasha, just like Pop will never cut Vaughn.....they both have a random fetish with each player for no reason.

[Holmes_Fans]

Huh? :wow:wow:wow:wow:wow

That's your interpretation. Use my exact words, not a figment of your imagination. :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

You said the Lakers are a championship team.

Then went and said a championship is a series of games to determine a winner or whatever it was.

So you are in essence saying the lakers are a series of games to blah blah blah

[LA24]

Lakers should let the Mavs win to screw over the Suns :elephant

I'll take the Mavs in the PO's over the Suns any day.

[DrHouse]

The Lakers play down to their competition.

[Amarelooms]

I'll take the Mavs in the PO's over the Suns any day.

Good come get your wish :elephant

[HarlemHeat37]

Kidd needs to be more confident there..he had an open lane to the rim, he should have took it, even if he might have missed..many more opportunities..

[HarlemHeat37]

Ariza having the game of his life..

[Allanon]

Odom + Ariza = $Money$

[lurker]

That's okay, Mavericks. You don't need to get any rebounds.


Fun while it lasted.

[LA24]

Like I said...yawn. Coming back from 15 down wears you out.

[DrHouse]

It's no secret the Laker's bench has severely underperformed this season. They are the reason the Lakers are blowing a lot of leads IMHO.

When Bynum returns and LO moves back to the bench I think some of those issues will sort themselves out. Still it is troubling to see both Farmar and Sasha playing so much worse than they were last season.

The Lakers need to look into moving both of them next season.

[IronMexican]

Ariza read the trash talk on ST.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Why did it take Phil so long to move Ariza to the starting lineup?


The only problem is their bench, which is supposed to be a big strength, is now a liability if Bynum doesn't come back strong.

[anonoftheinternets]

gasol/odom combo is unstoppable on the offensive boards .....

[Amarelooms]

Kidd needs to be more confident there..he had an open lane to the rim, he should have took it, even if he might have missed..many more opportunities..

Offensively Kidd is an idiot...worst pg in the league scoring wise

[Allanon]

It's no secret the Laker's bench has severely underperformed this season. They are the reason the Lakers are blowing a lot of leads IMHO.

When Bynum returns and LO moves back to the bench I think some of those issues will sort themselves out. Still it is troubling to see both Farmar and Sasha playing so much worse than they were last season.

The Lakers need to look into moving both of them next season.

I agree the bench sucks now. But the Bench Mob was robbed of both Odom and Ariza, I'm not too concerned.

Bench + Bynum or Bench + Odom is pretty good.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wow, that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.....J-Rich's 360 attempt might have even been smarter.

[resistanze]

Choking down the stretch!

[HarlemHeat37]

is Dirk playing?..

[LA24]

Lakers playing with their food again.

[lurker]

Kidd fails.

[Amarelooms]

The offense play calling is bad....Dirk way out at the 3point line? Get him the ball in isolation at the key....stupid coaching

[resistanze]

WTF? 3 on 1?? 3 pointer?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I feel like I'm watching the Suns.

[resistanze]

LMFAO @ Odumb.

LMFAO @ Mavs not getting a rebound.

[lurker]

Mavs are retarded.

[adidas11]

It's no secret the Laker's bench has severely underperformed this season. They are the reason the Lakers are blowing a lot of leads IMHO.

When Bynum returns and LO moves back to the bench I think some of those issues will sort themselves out. Still it is troubling to see both Farmar and Sasha playing so much worse than they were last season.

The Lakers need to look into moving both of them next season.

I agree with you, up until the idea of trading both Sasha and Farmar. I would prefer to keep both, even though they aren't performing up to last season's standards.

With Sasha, I think a lot of it has to do with teams being more aware of him, and not letting him be open at all. I rarely see Sasha with a wide open 3, unlike last year.

And with Farmar, he missed considerable time with that injury.

[Laker-fan-in-SanAnto]

its over

[gaKNOW!blee]

hahahahaha @ Mavericks.

[HarlemHeat37]

man..the Mavs are the biggest chokers I've ever seen, they shrivel up when it's clutch time..

Dirk has mastered the art of choking, so that's an obvious one..then Singleton mistimes the jump for the rebound on Kobe's last shot..and then after a stupid Odom shot, Dirk doesn't even try to run down the rebound LOL..

[itzsoweezee]

it's amazing to me how bad nowitzski has become. the mavs were playing much better with him on the bench.

[Ghazi]

Good game. Ariza was great today.

[Ghazi]

man..the Mavs are the biggest chokers I've ever seen, they shrivel up when it's clutch time..

Dirk has mastered the art of choking, so that's an obvious one..then Singleton mistimes the jump for the rebound on Kobe's last shot..and then after a stupid Odom shot, Dirk doesn't even try to run down the rebound LOL..

Don't be an idiot.

[mabrignani]

odom is stupid and the mavs cant get a board to save their life in the end. mavs lose bc of no post

[Texas_Ranger]

FUCK...I really hoped that the man in blu will win...eh.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Lakers still haven't grasped that the game is 48 minutes long...I hate when they sleepwalk through stretches like that

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I hope LA gets Dragic just cause I'm tired of hearing people talk shit about him and I want to see him in a situation where he'll succeed.....Phil Jackson supposedly had a lot of interest in him.

[Kobe™]

Lakers still haven't grasped that the game is 48 minutes long...I hate when they sleepwalk through stretches like that

:bang

[Brickhouse]

it's amazing to me how bad nowitzski has become. the mavs were playing much better with him on the bench.

they were also playing against the Lakers bench in that period.

I've said it before too, Dirk disappears far too often against double teams. He had no impact at all on this game.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Don't be an idiot.

Everything he said is true.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Props to Terry and Singleton--he was a nuisance on the offensive glass. For my boys, props to Ariza (great D and career-high O), and Kobe who was deadly in the clutch as always

[Laker-fan-in-SanAnto]

Where was J.T in 4th quarter? He probably thought the game was over after he hit that three when the 3rd quarter ended.

[UrAphag]

Ariza and Gasol played great. Kobe came through in the clutch

[Ghazi]

it's amazing to me how bad nowitzski has become. the mavs were playing much better with him on the bench.

25 and 8 averages is bad?

The length of the Lakers just bothers Nowitzki... 4 of the 6 meetings against them since the Gasol trade he's had poor shooting games.

He missed some FT's, and some shots he would normally make, but it's more the Laker defense than any "regression" with Dirk.

Gasol's a better defender than people give him credit for. Maybe not a great defender at the center spot.

[Medvedenko]

Good game and nice comeback by the Mavs....the game was never out of hand though and given the bs zone employed it didn't work when it mattered and that's in the clutch.

[21_Blessings]

Gasol proving his European player of the year award was no fluke. Meanwhile, Dirk was choking like it was the 1st round in 2007.

[cobbler]

The Yell is so stupid and annoying. LO does it as well.

Yeah, i agree. Maybe they should just toss their arms in the air and whine and bitch like timmy does. :lmao

[Donnie Nelson]

My Boys In Blue played spectacular today! I'm so proud of those guys!!! Having a lead with less than 6 minutes to go is just about as good as an actual win! Moral victories all around!

[Brickhouse]

25 and 8 averages is bad?

The length of the Lakers just bothers Nowitzki... 4 of the 6 meetings against them since the Gasol trade he's had poor shooting games.

He missed some FT's, and some shots he would normally make, but it's more the Laker defense than any "regression" with Dirk.

Gasol's a better defender than people give him credit for. Maybe not a great defender at the center spot.

The main problem with him this season despite usually consistent offensive production is his lack of effort on D, boxing out and being content to be contained by double teams.

He and JET are the only source of offense for the Mavs and they are both jumpshooters that can be contained since no one else can create a shot to save their lives.

And Dirk seems to have mediocre shooting nights more often than before. But Cuban and Donnie's solution has been to only make the offensive load on him heavier than before. We love our team!

[Ghazi]

My Boys In Blue played spectacular today! I'm so proud of those guys!!! Having a lead with less than 6 minutes to go is just about as good as an actual win! Moral victories all around!


Afraid to login to your other sn so you wouldn't come off as a whiny little bitch? :lol

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

If the lakers played to their potential i dont think anyone can beat them IMO but the effort and energy have to be there through 48mins

[Ghazi]

The main problem with him this season despite usually consistent offensive production is his lack of effort on D, boxing out and being content to be contained by double teams.

He and JET are the only source of offense for the Mavs and they are both jumpshooters that can be contained since no one else can create a shot to save their lives.

And Dirk seems to have mediocre shooting nights more often than before. But Cuban and Donnie's solution has been to only make the offensive load on him heavier than before. We love our team!

Yeah... when you've been where Nowitzki has been, it's kinda hard to muster the energy to play consistent defense on a team that has no shot to win it all.

Been to the Finals, should've won if not for BS whistles, but the whistles happened.

Won an MVP, but same year as the Warriors heartbreak.

Now a mediocre supporting cast, it saps your energy bro.

As for mediocre shooting nights. I feel Dirk's shooting is somewhat dependent on the talent around him. This is his worst shooting year since the '03-'04 season, and ironically, that's probably the next worst team (besides this one) for the Mavs in the past 7-8 years.

I'm not making excuses, it just is what it is.

[Laker-fan-in-SanAnto]

Lakers doing good against the the Texas trio. 8-1 I believe, not bad considering those are playoff teams.

[Gouken]

Great comeback by the Lakers. If it wasn't for Jason 'Waynehead' Terry's hot shooting it would've been a rout. Other than the Gasol trade the one for Ariza was just as great. His offensive is much improved and a far cry from what it was when he came into the league.

[Brickhouse]

Afraid to login to your other sn so you wouldn't come off as a whiny little bitch? :lol

stfu. Donnie is right. We love Donnie! We love the Mavs!

Coming back from a 15 point lead against the mighty lineup of Luke Walton and Vujabitch? :wow Hand over the ring to the Mavs right now.

[Allanon]

Lakers doing good against the the Texas trio. 8-1 I believe, not bad considering those are playoff teams.

Even better than that, the Lakers vs top 3 teams (Cavs/Celtics/Spurs) are 6-1 with the one loss at San Antonio by 1 point.

[Ghazi]

stfu. Donnie is right. We love Donnie! We love the Mavs!

Coming back from a 15 point lead against the mighty lineup of Luke Walton and Vujabitch? :wow Hand over the ring to the Mavs right now.

We expected a loss so quit bitching.

[monosylab1k]

We expected a loss so quit bitching.

There's a huge difference between expecting a loss and accepting a loss. And an even bigger difference between that and pulling out the pom-poms to celebrate a loss.

[Ghazi]

There's a huge difference between expecting a loss and accepting a loss. And an even bigger difference between that and pulling out the pom-poms to celebrate a loss.

lol, as if there's such a thing as an unacceptable loss with THIS particular roster?

Considering you had us losing this game by 20, had us losing to the Blazers, had us losing to the Suns (by 40 :-P), you should just "accept" this 2-2 road trip.

Sorry, but whining about every single thing that's wrong with the mavs on a Spurs board doesn't make you more of a Mavs fan than anyone else.

[Laker-fan-in-SanAnto]

Even better than that, the Lakers vs top 3 teams (Cavs/Celtics/Spurs) are 6-1 with the one loss at San Antonio by 1 point.

^^^^^^ 6-1 against those teams. That has to mean something?

[Brickhouse]

lol, as if there's such a thing as an unacceptable loss with THIS particular roster?

Considering you had us losing this game by 20, had us losing to the Blazers, had us losing to the Suns (by 40 :-P), you should just "accept" this 2-2 road trip.

Sorry, but whining about every single thing that's wrong with the mavs on a Spurs board doesn't make you more of a Mavs fan than anyone else.

We can whine all we want when we have to watch a lineup of Erika, JJ barea, Dick Breath, Antoine Wright, and an undersized PF at C every night. Not to mention JKidd who can't finish a layup for shit. And then there's Smokey who's still on the team, cruising along with "injuries" every other game.

[sribb43]

Dallas will keep it close for 3 quarters, then when it's time to get serious, the Lakers will go on their usual 15-0 run and win by 20.

close but Lakers won by 7

[lurker]

lol, as if there's such a thing as an unacceptable loss with THIS particular roster?
I didn't know Jeff Van Gundy posted here. Cool.

[sribb43]

JVG should be the Mavs GM

[sook]

There's a huge difference between expecting a loss and accepting a loss. And an even bigger difference between that and pulling out the pom-poms to celebrate a loss.

you're right. there is a difference between gagging on a cock being shoved down your throat and keeping your mouth wide open for one :lol

[stretch]

Mavs really need Josh Howard back.

[sribb43]

Mavs really need Josh Howard back.

He is a pussy who cant play through pain...If he only had the heart that Dirk and JET have to play through pain

[Ghazi]

We can whine all we want when we have to watch a lineup of Erika, JJ barea, Dick Breath, Antoine Wright, and an undersized PF at C every night. Not to mention JKidd who can't finish a layup for shit. And then there's Smokey who's still on the team, cruising along with "injuries" every other game.


You can bring up the role players all you want but the NBA comes down to your core. Dirk/Terry/Kidd/Howard is good but not good enough and so the Mavs are good but not good enough.

I'd be willing to bet if you swap Dirk with Lebron the Mavs are elite and the Cavs are mediocre.

It comes down to your superstar, we probably can't win it all with Dirk. If you have a championship or bust mentality, you should trade Dirk right now and tank until you find the next superstar, but that could take 10-15 years.

[mavs>spurs2]

You can bring up the role players all you want but the NBA comes down to your core. Dirk/Terry/Kidd/Howard is good but not good enough and so the Mavs are good but not good enough.

I'd be willing to bet if you swap Dirk with Lebron the Mavs are elite and the Cavs are mediocre.

It comes down to your superstar, we probably can't win it all with Dirk. If you have a championship or bust mentality, you should trade Dirk right now and tank until you find the next superstar, but that could take 10-15 years.

That's simply not true. That very core already rightfully won us a championship, or got us to the finals at the very least (4 rings, faggot). It's the role players that have changed since 2006, not so much the core. We miss Marquis, 6th man Stackhouse, glue guys like griffin, diop (before he sucked ass this year), energy guys like Armstrong etc. Even Van Horn would look like a blessing coming off the bench just to spot up for 3's when comparing him to the likes of Dick Breath, Matt Carrol, and Antoine Wright.

[mavs>spurs2]

Not to mention, I think Rawle Marshall >> Antoine Wright who is starting to look like he's just not going to work out. Although I tried not to be too hard on Wright in the past, it's quickly becoming apparent that he sucks. Just as Barrea's first few games turned out to be fool's gold. Armstrong/Anthony Johnson>>>Barrea. The Mavs are just THAT desperate at the 2. We're just not very deep

[BeeGee]

Good game today. Great run by the Mavs to sieze the lead, but the Lakers were able to shake it off and counter with the 12-0 run. Kobe with another huge jumper down the stretch and Ariza was more than the usual X-factor, with 25 big points. Gasol was 12-13 from the field, and the only thing wrong with that is he got only 13 shots instead of 26. That's 5 of the last 6 and most impressively, we completed the Texas Three-Step undefeated and big road wins at Houston and San Antonio. It's a big deal because we go home for two and then it's 7 straight on the east roadie.

[Ghazi]

That's simply not true. That very core already rightfully won us a championship, or got us to the finals at the very least (4 rings, faggot). It's the role players that have changed since 2006, not so much the core. We miss Marquis, 6th man Stackhouse, glue guys like griffin, diop (before he sucked ass this year), energy guys like Armstrong etc. Even Van Horn would look like a blessing coming off the bench just to spot up for 3's when comparing him to the likes of Dick Breath, Matt Carrol, and Antoine Wright.


Times have changed. The West is much stronger and Dirk, Howard, and Terry aren't as good.

We'd have 4-5 more wins this year if we had a 90/50/40 Dirk or a JET shooting 42-43% from behind the arc, or Howard being healthy, drawing charges, playing D, grabbing rebounds, bringing energy instead of stagnation, and not settling for stepback jumpers. He also shot 40% from behind the arc in 2006 and 38% in 2007 :wow.

Ohhh it'd be nice if we didn't forget how to play defense and rebound as well. I don't see why if you still have 4 of your top 6 guys from 2 years ago you go from 5th in D to 15th.

[aka_USAPA]

You can bring up the role players all you want but the NBA comes down to your core. Dirk/Terry/Kidd/Howard is good but not good enough and so the Mavs are good but not good enough.

I'd be willing to bet if you swap Dirk with Lebron the Mavs are elite and the Cavs are mediocre.

It comes down to your superstar, we probably can't win it all with Dirk. If you have a championship or bust mentality, you should trade Dirk right now and tank until you find the next superstar, but that could take 10-15 years.

Probably? The Mavs couldn't win it when they were in the Finals. They couldn't win it when they had the best record in the league. They have barely been making it to the finals since then. Open your eyes. The window of the championship has closed for the Mavs. They will be out of the First Round (again) this year and then re-building will start next season. They really shouldn't have traded for an aging Kidd but they panicked, wanting to win now and got old quick. Face it. It's Laker time again. :lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:

[Ghazi]

Screwed by refs in 2006 though.

As for it being the Lakers time, let them win a title first before jumping to such conclusions. They're probably gonna win the West but be slayed by the Cavs or Celtics.

[aka_USAPA]

Good game today. Great run by the Mavs to sieze the lead, but the Lakers were able to shake it off and counter with the 12-0 run. Kobe with another huge jumper down the stretch and Ariza was more than the usual X-factor, with 25 big points. Gasol was 12-13 from the field, and the only thing wrong with that is he got only 13 shots instead of 26. That's 5 of the last 6 and most impressively, we completed the Texas Three-Step undefeated and big road wins at Houston and San Antonio. It's a big deal because we go home for two and then it's 7 straight on the east roadie.

Be quiet. Don't you know Dirk own's Pau? LMAO. The Lakers needed challenge so they let the Mavs regain the lead. IMO, that hurts more than a blowout because the Mavs played their hearts out, took a 6-point lead after being down by 15 points and trailing all game only to be reminded once again of one fact: They are not good enough. Once the Lakers got serious, it was over. :lmao:lmao:lmao

But don't tell Dirk4MVP. ;)

[aka_USAPA]

Screwed by refs in 2006 though.

As for it being the Lakers time, let them win a title first before jumping to such conclusions. They're probably gonna win the West but be slayed by the Cavs or Celtics.

2-0 vs. the Cavs, beating them at home w/o Andrew Bynum. 2-0 vs. the Celtics who are fighting injuries and seemingly dysfunctional without KG and the addition of Marbury and Mikki Moore. The Celtics will never admit that their penny pinching by not re-signing Posey is hurting their defense of their title.

All I want for the playoffs is health for every team. I know the Lakers can still turn it up a few notches. They still are not putting the kind of effort they were putting in at the beginning of the season when they were hustling and playing defense like never before. I believe they will turn that on as they have vs. the Celtics & Cavs, and even the Spurs when they had to. Give the Lakers health, and they will give you the championship.

On the other hand, did anyone catch the interview of Andrew Bynum? Sounds like he's getting ready to get back. ;)

[21_Blessings]

Screwed by refs in 2006 though.

As for it being the Lakers time, let them win a title first before jumping to such conclusions. They're probably gonna win the West but be slayed by the Cavs or Celtics.

The Cavs don't matchup well with the Lakers at all. It might be a 'close' series if Cavs have homecourt but I'd expect a healthy Lakers team to win that series in 5 or 6 games.

Celtics, lol. They were lucky last year to have faced a Laker team that was missing their starting center and 2nd best perimeter defender in Ariza.

[mavs>spurs2]

Times have changed. The West is much stronger and Dirk, Howard, and Terry aren't as good.

We'd have 4-5 more wins this year if we had a 90/50/40 Dirk or a JET shooting 42-43% from behind the arc, or Howard being healthy, drawing charges, playing D, grabbing rebounds, bringing energy instead of stagnation, and not settling for stepback jumpers. He also shot 40% from behind the arc in 2006 and 38% in 2007 :wow.

Ohhh it'd be nice if we didn't forget how to play defense and rebound as well. I don't see why if you still have 4 of your top 6 guys from 2 years ago you go from 5th in D to 15th.

While I'll give you that Howard definately isn't as good, Terry is having probably the best year of his career. He's one of the league leaders in fourth quarter fg's, and scoring 20ppg off the bench. Dirk is still putting up the same numbers as always in another routine year for him. But you could also counter Howard's lack of production with the fact that Kidd > 2006 Devin, although not the 2007 and forward version. But we're talking about 2006, and our "big 4" is just as good as ever. The thing is, you're absolutely right in saying that our defense and rebounding suck worse than ever, but this isn't because of our 2 best players Dirk and JET. Dirk and JET were never the reason behind our rebounding and defense, at least not as much as the other guys. They were the scorers, while guys like Griffin, Diop at the time, Daniels, etc did alot of that dirty work, as well as Josh Howard. Let's not forget that Diop was very solid that year and started almost every game for us. If anything, I'd say that the sudden dropoff of Josh Howard combined with the loss of our role players is the reason we see this Mavs team how it is today. Quis and Stack left a 25ppg scoring gap on a team with only 2 real scorers, and our perimeter d has completely deteriorated.

And FYI, times can't really "change." For every declining player in the league, there is another rising star. For every Phoenix Sun and Dallas Maverick team, a Portland and New Orleans is born. If anything, what we're seeing is a shift of power back east to even things up a bit. It's all part of the natural cycle of professional sports, although the Gasol robbery created an unnatural gap between the 1 and 2 teams out west.

[sribb43]

The key reason why the Mavs have declined so much is plain and simple os J-Ho...J-Ho has fallen off the face of the earth since 2007 playoffs. Say what you want about the bench play but when one of your top 3 players both offensively and defensively plays so poorly, you going to become a worse team

[iggypop123]

Mavs really need Josh Howard back.

they need more than that. they need terry to make 10 3's every game to have a shot

[aka_USAPA]

As far as Howard, the moral lesson is... do not smoke crack!!!