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Rapper
03-15-2009, 12:00 AM
Yao is absolutely the best Center in NBA this season

Man don't tell me that he can' run like Parker and jump like Nate Robinson. it's becasue all of you guys know that this is make sense for a 7'6' dude

As a Chinese, I need to root for you for your great effort although I'm such a big Timmy's fan:wakeup

And please, Don't boo Yao, he deserves your applause

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Rogue
03-15-2009, 12:07 AM
size isn't the only thing to determine the capability of a player, even with such a big size yao still isn't able to dominate the paint as shaq did when he was young.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 12:11 AM
And please, Don't boo Yao, he deserves your applause



I'm not trying to shit talk, but why? He underachieves in just about every way possible.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 12:17 AM
And please, Don't boo Yao, he deserves your applause

Just don't clap too loud or the noise vibrations will fracture his foot.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 12:48 AM
I'm not trying to shit talk, but why? He underachieves in just about every way possible.

please explain how he underachieves. i think he does pretty damn well for his limited agility/athleticism and relatively short arms for his size. he is clearly the best rebounder over 7'4" in nba history. further he is one of the most durable guys over 7'4". he is also one of the hardest workers in the nba. what do you expect from him? wilt chamberlain numbers? the guy is clearly not that kind of athlete.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 12:55 AM
Threads like this are just dumb. He's 7'6" for crying out loud. He's better than Rik Smits, certainly that silly mormon choirboy Shawn Bradley, George Murasan, Ha-Seung Jin, or Manute Bol. Compared to men his size, Yao towers in talent over all of them.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 12:58 AM
Convenient criteria there :rolleyes


He's not a great defender, should be unstoppable on offense, yet doesn't even avg 20 and shoots just as many if not more fadeaways than Dirk does, isn't that great of a rebounder for his size. And as far as one of the hardest workers and most durable, he starts sucking wind about 4 minutes into the 1st quarter.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 12:59 AM
Maybe the op should've said best center in the nba 7'4" and up.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 01:00 AM
Van Gundy had Yao dominant until he broke his leg. Adleman just doesn't know how to use a guy like Yao.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 03:50 AM
Convenient criteria there :rolleyes


He's not a great defender, should be unstoppable on offense, yet doesn't even avg 20 and shoots just as many if not more fadeaways than Dirk does, isn't that great of a rebounder for his size. And as far as one of the hardest workers and most durable, he starts sucking wind about 4 minutes into the 1st quarter.

that line "not a great rebounder for his size" is one of the worst lines ever. how many great rebounders have their been over 7 feet? very few. the large majority of great rebounders are under 7 feet. hell...you can count the number of guys who averaged over 10 rpg for a career that were over 7 ft on 1 hand. like i said...for what yao is (a big unathletic guy with short arms) he is pretty damn good. i don't know what you are expecting out of him. do you want him to be a bigger ralph sampson? do you want him to be a taller shaq? what about yao actually compares to shaq outside of height? absolutely nothing.

further, yao would be unstoppable on offense if they didn't call bullshit offensive flops on him. he has to control how much he bangs on offense because bitches like utah can't stop flopping and drawing fouls on him. so why should yao be unstoppable on offense if he simply is not that athletic? you have to be athletic to be able to seal off your man when you are posting and to be able to catch difficult post entry passes. yao struggles with those things when he is fronted because he isn't very nimble on his feet. if he could do that then he would be averaging at least 5 more ppg.

on defense yao is a very good post defender. he knows how to use his size and stay in front of his man. just ask duncan or howard. further, he has short arms and he can't jump very high so he isn't a good shot blocker. he is a poor pick and roll defender due to his lack of agility and that is how teams exploit his defensive weaknesses.

i don't understand what your expectations for him are. what exactly leads you to believe that he should be some insanely dominant player given his obvious athletic weaknesses? and please don't come back at me with an argument that tim duncan isn't very athletic but he is a great defender because a player like duncan is very athletic even though he isn't built like dwight howard.

anyhow, yao is still the top center in the nba until howard can actually develop some sort of rudimentary offensive game. yao still outplays howard everytime they play in spite of howard's significant athletic advantage. howard can light up the stats against others but he still has never outplayed yao.

Austin_Toros
03-15-2009, 05:04 AM
I'm not trying to shit talk, but why? He underachieves in just about every way possible.

When he first came into the league people thought he was going to be as dominant as Shaq. He came up short.

More frustrating is the way Yao is soft and his refusal to dunk.

http://www.allguinness.com/steamedrice/?p=46
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9902EED61131F93BA35752C0A9629C8B 63

Austin_Toros
03-15-2009, 05:05 AM
Yao is absolutely the best Center in NBA this season

Man don't tell me that he can' run like Parker and jump like Nate Robinson. it's becasue all of you guys know that this is make sense for a 7'6' dude



Speaking of Yao and Nate Robinson, do you remember the time Nate blocked Yao???
Immediately after, Yao faked an injury.

BeeGee
03-15-2009, 06:57 AM
Yao is absolutely the best Center in NBA this season

Man don't tell me that he can' run like Parker and jump like Nate Robinson. it's becasue all of you guys know that this is make sense for a 7'6' dude

As a Chinese, I need to root for you for your great effort although I'm such a big Timmy's fan:wakeup

And please, Don't boo Yao, he deserves your applause
This is a joke, right?

wijayas
03-15-2009, 07:41 AM
Just don't clap too loud or the noise vibrations will fracture his foot.

:lmao :lmao :lmao
How true!

Chieflion
03-15-2009, 09:31 AM
This shows how little the NBA has when it comes to talent at the Center position. Of course the OP totally forgot about Dwight Howard.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 10:49 AM
Say what you want but if Yao were officiated fairly he'd be lighting it up for 30 ppg and over 15 rebounds. He has to pull back because everything he does is a foul with these (*&$^@#! refs. If he goes up strong for a dunk it's a foul, if he stands there with his hands straight up it's a foul. That is why he shoots so many fadeaway jumpers. He still manages to pull the stats that he does despite the Adleman offense and the refs.

ElNono
03-15-2009, 11:20 AM
Say what you want but if Yao were officiated fairly he'd be lighting it up for 30 ppg and over 15 rebounds. He has to pull back because everything he does is a foul with these (*&$^@#! refs. If he goes up strong for a dunk it's a foul, if he stands there with his hands straight up it's a foul. That is why he shoots so many fadeaway jumpers. He still manages to pull the stats that he does despite the Adleman offense and the refs.

If Yao would be coached by Pop he would average 40-20, while playing less than 30 mpg. Adelman has no idea how to use the guy.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 11:35 AM
the refs? :lmao

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 11:38 AM
the refs? :lmao

Yeah, Tim Donaghy stuck rubbed grease on the court once knowing Yao would break his foot slipping on it. Pretty disgusting.


But seriously, yes, the refs do to a large extent officiate Yao unfairly. Today's refs make it extremely hard to be a big man and extremely easy to be a SG or PG, and it's gotten to the point where it's hurting basketball.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 11:40 AM
He's probably the softest player in the league. It's not the ref's fault.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 11:44 AM
He's probably the softest player in the league. It's not the ref's fault.

Andrew Bynum is by far the softest player in the league.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 12:44 PM
If the Spurs had Yao they would be unstoppable. There is no way that the Lakers, Celtics or Cavs would be able to stop them. They would get torched on the left and right block. If the defense geared up to try to double Yao or Timmy, one of them would be open. If they packed it in the lane defensively, you'd have Mason, Parker, Ginobili, Hill lighting it up all day long.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 12:55 PM
When he first came into the league people thought he was going to be as dominant as Shaq. He came up short.

More frustrating is the way Yao is soft and his refusal to dunk.

http://www.allguinness.com/steamedrice/?p=46
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9902EED61131F93BA35752C0A9629C8B 63

rofl:lol nice revisionist history there! no one thought he was going to be as dominant as shaq. people were calling him the next larue martin not the next shaq. that's almost as bad as the line from dirk4mvp about yao being "a bad rebounder for his size".

also...i'm not sure if you have watched yao this year but he is dunking a hell of a lot more. lol it only took him 6 seasons but he is finally getting it.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 12:57 PM
Speaking of Yao and Nate Robinson, do you remember the time Nate blocked Yao???
Immediately after, Yao faked an injury.

yeah it was an amazing block no denying that but don't give me that bullshit that he didn't get whacked in the eye. any replay you look at clearly shows him getting hit in the face by nate.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 01:01 PM
the refs? :lmao

hey....why don't you justify your "bad rebounder for his size" comment? do you even know what makes a good rebounder? do you see any of those qualities in yao? there have never been any guys yao's size that rebound as well as he does.

ambchang
03-15-2009, 01:01 PM
Yao is by far the softest guy to ever not back down from a 320lb behemoth named Shaq.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 01:02 PM
A guy that's half a foot taller than everyone else can't pull 10 a game? Yeah dude, awesome rebounder there!

mavs>spurs2
03-15-2009, 01:09 PM
A guy that's half a foot taller than everyone else can't pull 10 a game? Yeah dude, awesome rebounder there!

But, but, tall people can't rebound! George Muresan, Manute Bol, and Shawn Bradley said so!

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 01:46 PM
I don't understand how being 7'6" is this disadvantage some of the Houston fans are saying it is.

mavs>spurs2
03-15-2009, 01:50 PM
I don't understand how being 7'6" is this disadvantage some of the Houston fans are saying it is.

It's because most giants in the nba have sucked, so since Yao doesn't suck quite as bad, he's "quite exceptional" for a 7'6'' guy :lol

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 01:58 PM
It's because most giants in the nba have sucked, so since Yao doesn't suck quite as bad, he's "quite exceptional" for a 7'6'' guy :lol

OK....so compared to 7'6" guys with chronic knee problems who can't move properly.....a 7'6" guy blessed with incredible mobility and coordination for his size has played well :lol

Was that even worth mentioning?

Indazone
03-15-2009, 01:58 PM
Tell me that any other NBA player gets this type of treatment? It's because Yao is so big and skilled that they do this to him.

Yao Ming angry at NBA refs

March 5, 2009 · Filed Under General (http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?cat=1), Houston Rockets (http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?cat=13)
http://www.insidehoops.com/pictures/yao_ming.jpgThe Houston Chronicle (Jonathan Feigen) reports (via blog): “You know what, I had two offensive fouls tonight, three last night, two at the Minnesota game … and you can go on,” Yao Ming said. “Every time a defender player is on the ground, even if he just wants to sit down and have a rest, it’s my offensive foul. That’s unfair. “Why? If I’m on the defensive side and I’m in the same position, the foul is on us. They can’t call it two ways. When I try to post up and they have a head on my shoulder and lean on me and lean on my elbow and try to push me out and have the knee and have the two hands, and no call. I know I have 300 pounds. But the same way people push me, maybe it doesn’t affect much, but I have to really, really limit my strength to push back. “I guess I don’t need to worry about a flopper the next game. I don’t think Shaq is that type of player.”

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 02:02 PM
Tell me that any other NBA player gets this type of treatment? It's because Yao is so big and skilled that they do this to him.

Yao Ming angry at NBA refs

March 5, 2009 · Filed Under General (http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?cat=1), Houston Rockets (http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?cat=13)
http://www.insidehoops.com/pictures/yao_ming.jpgThe Houston Chronicle (Jonathan Feigen) reports (via blog): “You know what, I had two offensive fouls tonight, three last night, two at the Minnesota game … and you can go on,” Yao Ming said. “Every time a defender player is on the ground, even if he just wants to sit down and have a rest, it’s my offensive foul. That’s unfair. “Why? If I’m on the defensive side and I’m in the same position, the foul is on us. They can’t call it two ways. When I try to post up and they have a head on my shoulder and lean on me and lean on my elbow and try to push me out and have the knee and have the two hands, and no call. I know I have 300 pounds. But the same way people push me, maybe it doesn’t affect much, but I have to really, really limit my strength to push back. “I guess I don’t need to worry about a flopper the next game. I don’t think Shaq is that type of player.”

Shaq got the same treatment. I agree that it sucks, but it's what all good big men that don't play for LA, Boston or Cleveland go through these days.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 02:03 PM
Of course the refs are the only thing holding him back from averaging 50+. Rocket fans making a case for being bigger homers than Kobe fans.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 02:03 PM
True and Van Gundy was right back in 2005

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/dropcap/d.gifALLAS, May 2 - Rockets Coach Jeff Van Gundy on Monday was fined $100,000 by the N.B.A. - the largest fine levied against a league coach - for comments he made Sunday, claiming that referees were directed by the league to target his center Yao Ming and refusing to reveal to N.B.A. investigators the person who told him that information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/03/sports/basketball/03nba.html

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 02:05 PM
Shaq got the same treatment. I agree that it sucks, but it's what all good big men that don't play for LA, Boston or Cleveland go through these days.

You really think the nba would be trying to hold it's international star who brings them tons of revenue down because he's 7'6"?


No.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 02:07 PM
Does Stern give the Los Angeles Lakers preferential treatment? Was the Gasol trade fair? Nuff said.

mavs>spurs2
03-15-2009, 02:07 PM
Yeah, the league office is the only thing holding Yao back from becoming a modern day Wilt Chamberlain :lol

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 02:08 PM
You really think the nba would be trying to hold it's international star who brings them tons of revenue down because he's 7'6"?


No.

I don't think the NBA is making an intentional effort.....I think when someone Yao's size gets hacked with the same force that someone Chris Paul's sized gets hacked with, it doesn't impact Yao as much so it doesn't get called......the notion the league is out to get Yao is ridiculous.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 02:12 PM
uh huh and so is the theory that the league gives the Celtics and Lakers preferential treatment.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 02:12 PM
Yeah, the league office is the only thing holding Yao back from becoming a modern day Wilt Chamberlain :lol


Obviously.

dirk4mvp
03-15-2009, 02:13 PM
uh huh and so is the theory that the league gives the Celtics and Lakers preferential treatment.


Why wouldn't they give their chinese megastar preferential treatment?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-15-2009, 02:17 PM
Why wouldn't they give their chinese megastar preferential treatment?

They do.....letting Chinese people who know nothing about basketball vote on the all star game in and of itself is preferential treatment.

Indazone
03-15-2009, 05:43 PM
Yao has to assert himself if Rockets are to succeed

by Jerome Solomon, Houston Chronicle , The Houston Chronicle

Yao Ming (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/110520) hates to lose.

If you saw him after defeats, you would see that it tears him up.
Seven years in the NBA (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba), and he never has won a playoff series. It is time for him to take his game to another level. Not his play, necessarily, but his handling of the game and his teammates. He is the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets)' best player, their leader.

Everybody in the world knows it, but it is time for Yao to let his teammates know it.

He tiptoed around Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley. He deferred to Tracy McGrady.

Now it is time for Yao to Americanize his game and let his teammates know what's up.

As complex as the workings of a Basketball team are, it is a simple game. At times, the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) make it too difficult. Basically, the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets)' offense should be as simple as 1-2-3.

1. His name is Yao.
2. Give him the ball.
3. Give him the ball.

Don't tell us what defenses are taking away. Don't tell us double-teams are coming from the back side on entry passes. Don't tell us about fronting in the post.

Too often the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) show a weakness in heart and commitment that good teams just don't show.

That should worry Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) fans who dream of the team having playoff success this season.

Wednesday night - with the defending Western (http://msn.foxsports.com/name/public/NBA/playoffs) Conference champion Los Angeles Lakers (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/los-angeles-lakers) in town - presented them a playoff-type atmosphere, and the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) played playoff-type basketball. They lost.

(Hey, that's what they do in the playoffs isn't it? It's been a dozen years since Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) fans cheered for their team in the second round, meaning there is a generation of Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) fans growing up thinking this franchise never wins.)

If the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) make a concerted effort to get Yao the ball, they are a better team. Period. If they do that, playoff success could be had.

Is Yao a superstar or what?
Well, the NBA (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba) statistics show 59 players who take more shots per game than Yao averages.

He took only three shots in the second half of a playoff-type game against the Lakers (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/los-angeles-lakers) after making all six of his shots in the first half.

That's ridiculous.
Team fails him

What, you think Shane "1-for-something" Battier can lead a team to a playoff series victory? (If so, you better turn off The Big Bang Theory, stop drinking that funny-tasting juice Daryl Morey is serving, and start watching the games.)

If the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) do what they so often do in losses - fail to feed the big man - their playoff stay will be short.

They talk about getting Yao the ball, then Battier carelessly rolls it to him in the post. Turnover.

They say everything goes through Yao, then Aaron Brooks casually lofts a pass to him that travels so slow a defender could have started at the George R. Brown and gotten to Toyota Center in time to steal it.

Turnover.

You learn how to feed the post in bitty basketball. The Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets) had a season-high 23 turnovers against Los Angeles - which isn't a defensive machine - and perhaps a third of them involved poor attempts to get Yao the ball.

They claim that as Yao goes so go the Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets), yet Ron Artest threw up eight 3-pointers (he missed them all), and his teammates fired up 20 more on a night they weren't making many (five).

How many times are we going to hear excuses for why the team could not get the ball to that tall dude?

It is time Yao tells his teammates a thing or three.
Clearly, Rick Adelman isn't getting the point across.

During one game at the Olympics, a guard on the Chinese team, who couldn't start at Yates, threw some Battier-like mess into the post. It wasn't stolen, just knocked out of bounds, and Yao shouted at his teammate.

Given my limited Chinese - and considering I was watching this game on Chinese television, so I had to lip-read (and I don't lip-read) - this translation might be a bit off. But I believe he said: "You see this huge hand? Throw it here."

"Hey, Shane, you see this huge hand?"

In another game, a Chinese teammate launched a trey just as Yao had pinned a defender on the low block. Yao gave him a dirty look and said something.

Again, I don't habla or parlez-vous Chinese, but I think he said, "Hey, give me the darn ball." One would think Yao wouldn't have to do that in the NBA (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba), but all the great scoring big men have had to do it.
If only we had a recording of some of the things Hakeem Olajuwon said to Sam Cassell during games. Or what Moses Malone said to put Calvin Murphy in check. It's about time for Yao to be like Hakeem and Moses. The Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/houston-rockets)' playoff hopes might depend on it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9332996/Yao-has-to-assert-himself-if-Rockets-are-to-succeed

robbie380
03-15-2009, 06:11 PM
I don't understand how being 7'6" is this disadvantage some of the Houston fans are saying it is.

ffs...it's not his height i am saying is a disadvantage. i am saying his lack of agility and athleticism that is the disadvantage. his short arms also make his height not as advantageous as it should be since most guys in the NBA have a wingspan that is longer than their height. yao has kevin willis syndrome.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 06:12 PM
But, but, tall people can't rebound! George Muresan, Manute Bol, and Shawn Bradley said so!

name me anyone over 7'2 who was as good of a rebounder as yao.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 06:14 PM
A guy that's half a foot taller than everyone else can't pull 10 a game? Yeah dude, awesome rebounder there!

good call...why don't you look up the greatest rebounders in nba history.

mavs>spurs2
03-15-2009, 06:16 PM
name me anyone over 7'2 who was as good of a rebounder as yao.

There isn't many people in this world over 7'2. actually, anything over 6'5 is considered pretty abnormal. The % of people who are 7 footers is microscopic. Just because the past giants in the nba have sucked doesn't mean that height isn't an advantage in rebounding. How many league rebounding titles have been won by PG's? If you're trying to prove that Yao isn't quite as retarded than those other giants, then you've already won.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 06:19 PM
There isn't many people in this world over 7'2. actually, anything over 6'5 is considered pretty abnormal. The % of people who are 7 footers is microscopic. Just because the past giants in the nba have sucked doesn't mean that height isn't an advantage in rebounding. How many league rebounding titles have been won by PG's?

obviously none but you and i both know height isn't the only factor in rebounding. most of the great rebounders have been 6'10 and under.

mavs>spurs2
03-15-2009, 06:33 PM
obviously none but you and i both know height isn't the only factor in rebounding. most of the great rebounders have been 6'10 and under.

Of course a guy who's not quite 7 feet tall, but has a great nose for the ball and good quickness can run down/grab alot of rebounds. But all things created equal and the ball is up in the air in the final moments of the game, both players have equal positioning, who do you think is gonna get the rebound? Height matters man, or nba players wouldn't be so tall. Saying Yao's height isn't working to his advantage is ridiculous. In fact, if Yao were 6'10 he wouldn't be in the NBA.

mardigan
03-15-2009, 06:44 PM
ffs...it's not his height i am saying is a disadvantage. i am saying his lack of agility and athleticism that is the disadvantage. his short arms also make his height not as advantageous as it should be since most guys in the NBA have a wingspan that is longer than their height. yao has kevin willis syndrome.

Can't agree with you more. Rebounding is about being smooth and fluid, being able to quickly adjust to where you think the rebound will come off the rim. Yao tries his hardest, but his lack of mobility will always hinder him in the rebound department. If he had the grace and quickness of a D-Rob or Hakeem, he would dominate. Unfortunately for him, being his size doesn't permit a lot of lateral, or really any kind of quickness.

mardigan
03-15-2009, 06:45 PM
Oh, and as far as talent, Yao is by far the best center in the NBA imo. That's if were considering Timmy a pf.

robbie380
03-15-2009, 06:52 PM
Of course a guy who's not quite 7 feet tall, but has a great nose for the ball and good quickness can run down/grab alot of rebounds. But all things created equal and the ball is up in the air in the final moments of the game, both players have equal positioning, who do you think is gonna get the rebound? Height matters man, or nba players wouldn't be so tall. Saying Yao's height isn't working to his advantage is ridiculous. In fact, if Yao were 6'10 he wouldn't be in the NBA.

no one said his height wasn't an advantage. when did i say it didn't help him? all i am saying is that there is a level of diminishing returns for guys once they get too tall because they simply aren't as mobile. the only guy who was over 7'2 and extremely agile was sampson but his career was destroyed by injuries.

and yes if they have equal positioning then the taller guy likely gets the board but you have to be agile and athletic to get that positioning...that is something yao lacks. that is why he isn't a dominant rebounder. that being said the tallest players on the court haven't always been the best rebounders. the best rebounders have always been the guys who have the ability to get to the ball and get position. if you haven't noticed yao has lead blocks for feet and he doesn't move great. he doesn't have natural rebounding abilities outside of his height. that being said there has never been as good of a rebounder that was over 7'2.

also, if rebounding was ONLY about height then why haven't guys over 7'2 been completely dominant on the boards?

sook
03-15-2009, 07:03 PM
To everyone on this board. It is undeniable that Yao is a gem, a talent you find so rare..but he is so difficult to use.

Don't tell me that coaching geniuses like Rick and Jeff still haven't figured it out but someone will.

His size is too unatural, we need a big man that can rebound, score and be Dominant

I root for Yao because he is on my team, not because i like him. I will end it at saying he is one of the classiest and hardest workers in the NBA

Indazone
03-15-2009, 07:41 PM
The answer is Tom Thibodeau not man-child-tyrant Avery Johnson, and certainly not one of the Van Stumpy brothers.

There are only three other coaches that I think right now would work wonders with Yao. Those three coaches are in fact Popovich, Phil Jackson, and Pat Riley. But since we aren't getting any of those coaches anytime soon...

babyfederer
03-15-2009, 08:20 PM
alright lets clear this issue up for the haters like dickformvp. At Yao's size he is better than any guy ever that was that height. If it was about height you think that 7'9 moster in college would be a top prospect? he is not. Even though he is so tall, his inability to move limits him from getting rebounds. For the dummies, rebounding is not just about how high the ball is but it is greatly also about how you get to the ball weh the ball is not directly above you, Yao's size doesnt let him get to the balls that are not directly above him, which are mostly all of them, thats why his rebounds are not great. When it comes to not getting 50 points a game its not bc he cant make fade aways like some of you dumbasses pointed out. Its because he doesnt get as many shot atttempts as he needs beacause his size inhibits him from getting in good position. Bc he is so big the defender has an easy time using his weight against him when he is leaning back trying to get position and stading in front of him, not letting him get the ball. And the officiating does come into the conversation because when he is trying to get positioning the defenders can do any damn thing they want bc he is so big, but when he does half of what is done to him, then he gets calls against him bc of his strength. So yes thats why the officiating with Yao is so scrutinized . Thats Why Yao is not super dominant, for you dumb dick headed dumb asses who say why doesnt he get 50 a game. In basketball tallness is not everything, and it has alot of draw backs especially when you are 7'6. That said Yao is one of the hardest workers and i think he has done as good as he possibly can with the gifts that he recieved, much more than you idiots give him credit for

Rapper
03-15-2009, 11:18 PM
Speaking of Yao and Nate Robinson, do you remember the time Nate blocked Yao???
Immediately after, Yao faked an injury.

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dirk4mvp
03-16-2009, 01:56 AM
Uh yeah, for a guy who's wrists are over the rim standing flat footed and reaching up should be more "dominant" than he is. He should also never miss 2 dunks in one possession like he did.

Roxsfan
03-16-2009, 02:04 AM
Uh yeah, for a guy who's wrists are over the rim standing flat footed and reaching up should be more "dominant" than he is. He should also never miss 2 dunks in one possession like he did.

the second attempt was not a dunk dumb ass, he layed it up on the top of the iron and it took a quirky spin off the rim.

Dirk is past his prime, the mavs suck and fuck off.:toast

Yao is the man.

dirk4mvp
03-16-2009, 02:08 AM
the second attempt was not a dunk dumb ass, he layed it up on the top of the iron and it took a quirky spin off the rim.



spin it how you want, missing a shot with your elbow at the rim twice in a 5 second span it pathetic.

robbie380
03-16-2009, 08:47 AM
spin it how you want, missing a shot with your elbow at the rim twice in a 5 second span it pathetic.

your inability to defend your rebounding point...pathetic