The Spurs aren't a very good defensive team anymore

[21_Blessings]

Remember when they could actually play defense and get stops in the 4th? Haha Spurs.

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[Ghazi]

They're still 5th in the league. Just not their usual top 1/2.

[Bob Lanier]

Been nine years since the Lakers could say the same.

[21_Blessings]

Lakers are 3rd in defensive efficiency by a large margin. Spurs are barely holding on to that 6th spot. Spurs defense has pretty much sucked donkey balls the entire season.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Lakers are 3rd in defensive efficiency by a large margin. Spurs are barely holding on to that 6th spot. Spurs defense has pretty much sucked donkey balls the entire season.

You're talking about the ESPN one that doesn't factor in offensive rebounds.....the basketball reference one is more accurate and it has the Spurs at 5th and LA at 7th.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Actually even the ESPN defensive efficiency has SA ahead of LA.....

[dirk4mvp]

Common sense does too. The Spurs allow around 93 when the Lakers allow almost 100. Pts per game is what matters to me and most intelligent NBA fans.


no it's not.

[Red Hawk #21]

The Lakers are Tough Lock Down defenders. Especially that guy named Pau Gasol, his defense is suffocating...lol

[21_Blessings]

Common sense does too. The Spurs allow around 93 when the Lakers allow almost 100. Pts per game is what matters to me and most intelligent NBA fans.

No, opponent FG% is a much more telling stat. Lakers have the edge in that yet again.

[Findog]

Common sense does too. The Spurs allow around 93 when the Lakers allow almost 100. Pts per game is what matters to me and most intelligent NBA fans.

Point differential is what matters most.

[21_Blessings]

You're talking about the ESPN one that doesn't factor in offensive rebounds.....the basketball reference one is more accurate and it has the Spurs at 5th and LA at 7th.

Espn, lol

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/opponentstats/09/1/diffeff/1-1

[IronMexican]

I look at point differential.

[stretch]

lakers allow a lot of assists too. one of the worst in the league in that department. that shows that they are not a very smart defense, and their defense comes more from their high-powered offense forcing bad opponents into more bad shots, like the suns used to do.

lakers defense is pretty crappy actually. other than kobe, and maybe fisher, there is no one that you can consistently rely on for defense. not even bynum, as he is very easy to fool with a little ball movement.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No, opponent FG% is a much more telling stat. Lakers have the edge in that yet again.

defensive rebounding % is also important, but I agree opposing PPG is not a very important stat because it's just as much about tempo as it is about defense.

[Agloco]

Lakers are 3rd in defensive efficiency by a large margin. Spurs are barely holding on to that 6th spot. Spurs defense has pretty much sucked donkey balls the entire season.

Even if this were true, I'm not sure how this = sucking donkey balls. You fail.


No, opponent FG% is a much more telling stat. Lakers have the edge in that yet again.

Wrong, on both counts.


Point differential is what matters most.

Ding, Ding........ we have a winner. FG% is our runner-up. Couple them, and you've got a pretty good indication of who has the best chance of winnig it all.

[Findog]

21 Palins versus BenJarvisOthelloTron. It's a retard-off!

[td4mvp21]

Sorry but Opp FG % > Opp PPG. Us Spurs fans should know this more than any other fan.

[SpursDynasty]

The Spurs are just finding more balance...last year the main complaint was stagnant offense. We fixed that. If you're more offense-oriented, defense will go down a little.

Still 3rd in the league in opponents PPG allowed and 9th in opponents FG%.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

21 Palins versus BenJarvisOthelloTron. It's a retard-off!

:lmao

4 rings, faggot!!!!

[stretch]

21 Palins versus BenJarvisOthelloTron. It's a retard-off!

looks like jeff just jumped in. all we need is beefanus, and we got a world record for retards arguing at once.

[Ditty]

Remember when they could actually play defense and get stops in the 4th? Haha Spurs.

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yah its pretty sad that the spurs have yet to get hot this year :lmao

[Extra Stout]

Points per possession is the most meaningful measure of both offensive and defensive efficiency.

[lefty]

They will be the best defensive team come playoff time


Also, you have to realize that Manu, one of our best defensive players, has missed tons of games, and that Pop has been limiting Bowen's minutes

[Bob Lanier]

Points per possession is the most meaningful measure of both offensive and defensive efficiency.
Exactly, and by that measure the Spurs have slipped quite a bit since 2007, while the Lakers have made up a lot of ground since the same time - and the Lakers still aren't as good as the Spurs. But not since the 1999-2000 season have the Lakers been a team you could count on to repeatedly "get stops in the 4th", while the Spurs had been doing it for the better part of a decade prior to their recent dropoff.

[Trainwreck2100]

anybody remember this gem???
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98609

[sook]

OP this was a very stupid thread. The Spurs play VERY good defense, you just don't see it till april. Just watch.

[Spursmania]

Remember when they could actually play defense and get stops in the 4th? Haha Spurs.

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Who cares what you think about Spurs D as you don't even have your facts straight, but I'm not surprised. Your team hasn't won any LOB's in several years. Why don't you at least wait until they win something this year.

And, if you're not worried about the Spurs, why are you always hanging out in the Spurs forum praying to the BB Gods that Manu doesn't come back? Well he will be back, and may the best team win. If the Lakers win then they derserve it, and if we win, well I wouldn't be surprised.:toast

[Spursmania]

anybody remember this gem???
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98609


Trainwreck, is that your cat in your avatar? He looks cool.:lol

[Spursfan092120]

Remember when they could actually play defense and get stops in the 4th? Haha Spurs.

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Yeah, douchey..it was a couple of days ago against Houston. Remember when the Lakers won a title?

[21_Blessings]

Wrong, on both counts.

I was right on both counts.



Ding, Ding........ we have a winner. FG% is our runner-up. Couple them, and you've got a pretty good indication of who has the best chance of winnig it all.

Opp FG% is a much more indicative defensive stat than point differential. Mavs and Suns fan should know this more than anything.

[hater]

LMAO Lakerfan waking up on Monday morning and starting this thread. Obsessed much?

[j-money24]

Lakers play worser defense than the spurs so im not going to say anything.

[aka_USAPA]

:lmao

4 rings, faggot!!!!

If you're going to live in the past, how about 14 rings?

[Spurtacus]

Spurs are #2 in the West. That's all I care about.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If you're going to live in the past, how about 14 rings?

This is a regular joke that regular posters know about......I'm a fuckin Suns fan, why would I use the Spur's four rings as a comeback?

[Spursfan092120]

Spurs are 3rd in the league in points allowed per game, allowing 93.4...and your Lakers sit back at 18th allowing over 100 points per game. Please..let's not talk about the Spurs defense...let's not throw stones in glass houses.

[Spursfan092120]

This is a regular joke that regular posters know about......I'm a fuckin Suns fan, why would I use the Spur's four rings as a comeback?
Yeah...get with the times. How does that guy have a Spur by his name already? lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah...get with the times. How does that guy have a Spur by his name already? lol

That's a good question....how does a Laker fan with less than 1,000 posts have a Spur?

[Biggems]

there are several stats that can be used to determine the top defenses.

while the Spurs have definitely seen a drop off over the last few seasons, they are still in the upper eschelon of teams defensively.

3 contributors to their defensive decline:
1. opponents are shooting at a higher % against them.
2. they seem to give up a lot more offensive rebounds and second chance points than they did in previous years.
3. they are playing a bit more up tempo, running a bit more, and scoring more. extra possessions on offense tend to mean extra possessions on defense. so because opponents are shooting better, and getting more opportunities, they are scoring more against the Spurs.

[dirk4mvp]

That's a good question....how does a Laker fan with less than 1,000 posts have a Spur?


If you sign up back in the day, you get a spur for 'being an original member'.