Start Nazr already

[DuncanMVP]

I felt sick watching the choke at the end

Rasho, get used to the bench

[texbumTHElife]

I felt sick watching the choke at the end

Rasho, get used to the bench

I think he deserves a shot to see what he can do. Here is the real question though..... do you really want to see Rasho come off of the bench?

[DuncanMVP]

do you really want to see Rasho come off of the bench?


what that a joke?

[T Park]

unreal.

[E20]

Rasho got 8 Rebounds and 2 blocks. Hopefully he'll start clicking on the offensive end, but I think Nazr should deserve a chance if he continues to play this well in a limited amount of time.

[texbumTHElife]

what that a joke?


What I mean is not "Would you rather see him off the bench than start" I mean how depressed would you get when Nazr went to the bench and Rasho comes out? LOL

I dont think it matters who starts as long as the better player gets the crunch minbutes. After tonight I think we all know who that player is.

[DuncanMVP]

Rasho is a waste of space, it couldnt be more obvious

[T Park]

^^^ You are easily a moron.

[DuncanMVP]

2pts must really impress you right?



but his defense was the key right? the key to the damn loss

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Allow me to jump in here: I like Rasho's game, but he doesn't compliment Duncan very well at all.

I'd like to see Nazr start for two reasons:

1. I think Nazr is a better complimentary player to Tim than Rasho is. Put him out there next to TD, and he easily gets 10 and 10 while the defense is focused on Tim.

2. Rasho has proven time and again that without Duncan around he is much better at both ends of the floor. Play him with the second unit and let him be the primary initatior of the offense with the second unit, and he would thrive.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Oh, and that said, Rasho played poorly down the stretch tonight, and I would have loved to have seen Nazr in there.

[T Park]

that said, you dont change a starting 5 with 20 games to go.


Move him into the lineup next year.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Why not? We're technically changing our starting five right now with Tim and Manu on the bench.

[E20]

I think we have enough space to experiment with this.

[DuncanMVP]

that said, you dont change a starting 5 with 20 games to go.


Move him into the lineup next year.


So wait till next season to be a better team?


I'm sure the Spurs can live without Rasho's 2pts and 8rbs

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[T Park]

Why not? We're technically changing our starting five right now with Tim and Manu on the bench

uh yeah, injuries do that.

if Ginobili and DUncan were healthy you wouldn't have a different starting five.

no Duncan, you give the guy more fucking time than 20 some odd games to be in the starting 5.


BS. God Duncan get a fuckin brain.

[DuncanMVP]

Rasho should of been traded for some extra trainers to take care of TD and Gino

[tim_duncan_fan]

pop is probably having one of those loyalty complexes like the tuna of the cowboys had with Vinny T. doesn't want to give up on rasho. makes excuses like he has great D. I for one believe D can be taught so Nazr should start.

[GoSpurs21]

lets see, Rasho plays good defense and knows the system with 1.5 years of experience Nazr has played about 30 min with the Spurs. Nazr will make a great back up center for the stretch run but he's not ready to start yet.

[DuncanMVP]

lets see, Rasho plays good defense and knows the system with 1.5 years of experience Nazr has played about 30 min with the Spurs. Nazr will make a great back up center for the stretch run but he's not ready to start yet.


Its sad that Rasho "knows" the system and still was out played by Nazr

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Fuck experience. Nazr was a better player at both ends of the court tonight than Rasho.

He had more rebounds and points in half the PT of Rasho.

He created more on offense for TMass tonight than Rasho has in one and a half years.

AND he kept Camby and Kmart out of the paint when guarding them, let alone that little pain in the ass Eddie Najera.

There does not exist a parallel universe where Rasho was on the same playing field as Nazr tonight.

Hell, Nazr even shot more FTs tonight than Rasho has in all of 2005.

[GoSpurs21]

Its sad that Rasho "knows" the system and still was out played by NazrRasho played mainly against Denvers starters and had a good defensive game, Nazr played mainly against Denvers backups and had a great game. I love Nazr's hustle and effort, but with his groin injury is he really ready to take on starter minutes?

[E20]

AHF, if you met Pop face to face what would you say to him?

Just wondering.

[Man In Black]

I love how people can already declare how great 1 player is based ON 1 FUCKING GAME. But whatever, big props to Nazr for his solid rebounding. Rasho did his job. Which is all ever Pop asks and what Pop gets, night in & night out but for many of you scrubs, that ain't good enough.
It's a fuckin' loss but hey, to me...If I was a Denver fan...I'd feel like a Phoenix fan. Spurs 2 best players were out and we barely won? Doesn't bode well for the playoffs.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Extend my hand, and introduce myself as a FT Shooting Specialist :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rasho did his job.

The Spurs were outrebounded 6-1 after Nazr went out with a little over three minutes to play, including three offensive rebounds that contributed three points, coincidentally the final margin in the game.

Where in there did Rasho "do his job."

I've already outlined why Nazr should start - he's a better complimentary player to Tim, and Rasho plays better at the offensive end when he doesn't have Duncan to share space with.

Kori and LJ have touched on it here on the forum before, and I vehemently agree with them - give Rasho more minutes when Tim is *off* the floor, and you'll make Rasho a better player and the Spurs a better team.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Nazr really impressed me tonight, he was a monster on the offensive boards, and he made some pretty nice passes downlow.

[DuncanMVP]

The Spurs were outrebounded 6-1 after Nazr went out with a little over three minutes to play, including three offensive rebounds that contributed three points, coincidentally the final margin in the game.

Where in there did Rasho "do his job."

I've already outlined why Nazr should start - he's a better complimentary player to Tim, and Rasho plays better at the offensive end when he doesn't have Duncan to share space with.

Kori and LJ have touched on it here on the forum before, and I vehemently agree with them - give Rasho more minutes when Tim is *off* the floor, and you'll make Rasho a better player and the Spurs a better team.


too many Spurs fans on Rasho's nuts thats why

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Nazr played mainly against Denvers backups and had a great game.

GoSpurs, incorrect. He was in there most of the time against at least one of KMart or Camby.

Quit hating, and recognize Nazr is our center of the future (and should be present).

Start Nazr, bring Rasho off the bench, FSP pitches in to give Pop some end of game offensive play sets, and let the rings start coming in.

[slayermin]

If Nazr can put a string of games together like he did tonite, Rasho will be forced to the bench.

[Mr. Body]

Even before this game, I thought Mohammed was our future center, but won't and shouldn't be until next year. Then, the question will be, how effective is Rasho off the bench? Will he need to be traded?

I hope he's effective off the bench and we won't need to trade him. But Nazr was a steal. I live in New York - I thought so when the trade happened.

[GoSpurs21]

GoSpurs, incorrect. He was in there most of the time against at least one of KMart or Camby.

Quit hating, and recognize Nazr is our center of the future (and should be present).

Start Nazr, bring Rasho off the bench, FSP pitches in to give Pop some end of game offensive play sets, and let the rings start coming in.I ain't hating on Nazr. I love the way he is adjusting to the system. If he wins the job from Rasho, I am all for it. But to think that 30 minutes (so far) in the system and a questionable groin can withstand the rigors of starting minutes at this point in the season is wishfull thinking at best. I only wish the best for this team...the championship is all that matters. Other than most I support all players on the Spurs that hustle and grasp the system. If you cant see that Rasho understands his role nothing I write will change your closed mind. Besides its not who starts the game its who finishes that really matters, and as long as the player contributes I dont really care as long as the Spurs win playoffs games.

Even though Pop makes mistakes (like tonight) I trust that he knows better than most whats best for the team (2 championships is proof enough). After all he's not going anywhere and unlike everyone else that posts here, he's the only one that's getting paid to captain the Spurs.

But if you really need to bitch about something feel free....I've said my peace....and my playoffs seats are paid for. And I believe in the Spurs (all of them) do you?

[timvp]

AHF has a better chance of marrying Pop than Nazr does starting over Rasho anytime soon.

[Ginobilly]

I think it's too late in the season to change lineups, maybe we will see next year if Nazzi wins the spot over Rasho in training camp. But we def. are going to need Nazi for the playoffs. I like what I saw from him yesterday even though he looked like he was only 70%. I'm salavating at the thought of the damage that him and Tim could do together. "Tim shoots the banker, misses, but there's Mohammed with the offensive rebound and the and 1!" I like the sound of that!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

GoSpurs, I never said Rasho didn't understand his role. For the billionth time:

- Nazr's game is a better compliment to Duncan than Rasho's is. He hits the offensive glass, makes good passes in the post, and scores off garbage buckets, perfect compliment to Tim on the low block.

- Rasho has played significantly better over the last year and a half when he's not sharing the floor with Tim. Facts are facts, and even Kori has acknowledged it.

I think Rasho understands his role perfectly well. I just think Nazr can do a better job of doing it than Rasho does, particularly lined up next to Tim.

LJ - you better hope it doesn't happen, or else those first round playoff tickets are mine :lol

[Tom_Foolery]

I would start Nazr only against specific teams for now. If we were playing teams with Centers that were much more athletic and smaller than Rasho, I would have Nazr start. For example, I would play Nazr against Amare because Nazr would do a much better job than Rasho. Rasho is not quick enough to guard Amare. Nazr is. Look at what Lorenzen Wright has been able to do to Amare.

You need a more athletic player to guard centers like Amare than Rasho. Rasho is good at guarding the bigger Centers like Yao, James, Olowakandi(does he still play?).

As slow as Rasho is, he is a decent shotblocker. But maybe it's because more guys are going to the hole on Rasho because of his "soft reputation"?

But if we were to start Nazr for good, I would not do it unless we moved Tim Duncan to Center and Nazr to PF. Nazr is a tremendous player, and in my opinion would be more beneficial if in the starting lineup, but guys are more likely to go to the hole on a 6-10 pf/c than a 7-1 Rasho simply because Rasho has tremendous wingspan.

Look at Amare...teams are going inside on him because of his height.


If I was Pop, I'd play Duncan at Center and Nazr at PF.

[ChumpDumper]

When Pop becomes convinced the Spurs' D will be better with Nazr starting instead of Rasho, he'll start.

Not before.

[tim_duncan_fan]

duncan plays more like a center anyway. powerforwards are becoming more like tall shooting guards that play a little bit post like KG,dirk. Duncan's game is completely different from theirs'.this becoming more evident to me evryday.
Duncan is a center.

[picnroll]

Starting is irrelevant. When Nazr starts closing out games with Duncan that's when you'll know he's arrived in Pop's eyes. Spurs haven't had an effective big to close out games next to TD since Robinson retired.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Agreed on that pnr.

If Manu and Tony are out tomorrow but Tim plays, we might as well treat it like another scrimmage and see what Nazr and Tim can do to close one out.

Personally I'd love to see him start, just to see the same (what he can do).

[Slo spurs fan]

I felt sick watching the choke at the end

Rasho, get used to the bench


Where are you now? Your boy makes Rasho look like HOF!!! :lol :lol :lol

[waly.mg]

No way
Rasho will be the starter
Pop only make a change when one guy is injured

The last season when TD was injured, Pop don´t move Manu to starter for Hedo, when Manu was the 3rd better player

[ChumpDumper]

If Nazr learns to stop reaching and simply works on getting position like Rasho does, I can see him starting. Out of Rasho, Nazr and Rose, Nazr's game seems to benefit the most from Duncan's presence; his lack of range dictates that he simply hang around the rim and wait for the defense to be distracted by Duncan or a driving guard. It's not going to be all that great for spacing when we play teams with superior halfcourt defenses, but we have three other guys who can provide that.

[MannyIsGod]

Nazr needs an offseason with the Spurs. As a midseason trade, this shit may cost us a lot. It would have been a much better offseason acquisition. I know it might not have been on the table then, but it just sucks ass as far as a midseason trade goes.

[pjjrfan]

I must have watched the wrong game, the Hawks made a run when Nazr either missed or turned it over in like 5 straight possessions, there in the 4th qtr. I don't like this guy, he shoots without any kind of balance, he looks like he is falling down all the time, he is better at put backs off offensive rebounds than Rasho, that's for sure, but last night he bobbled or lost every pass he got. Except for that one move which he made that was negated by the shot clock running out, he looks out of sync big time. He is a better rebounder than Rasho and quicker and maybe teamed up TD he could move to the hole better for easy layups, but without TD in there he is in my mind a bigger liability than Rasho because he forces shots, something Rasho hardly ever does.

[DuncanMVP]

Rasho still needs to come off the bench

[Slo spurs fan]

And who will (can) start?

[DuncanMVP]

Nazr

[Slo spurs fan]

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Nazr

[DuncanMVP]

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Maybe you forget that Rasho likes to play good only when Duncan is hurt :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Slo spurs fan]

Maybe you forget that Rasho likes to play good only when Duncan is hurt :lol :lol :lol :lol

He played almost ALWAYS good defence.

[Useruser666]

Nazr is not ready to start yet. Rasho is playing much better now and has been for a while now. With Duncan out, Rasho will get the touches and confidence he needs to play well. Nazr is playing well but needs to work on hold on to the ball and not bringing it down. He gets stripped all the time when he doen't just go straight back up. He wil improve on defensive rotations with the more games he will play. I have notice him challenging a lot of shots and not allowing very many And1s.