Slavery Reparations in congress

[CosmicCowboy]

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/bills/?bill=12489961

A special commission has been created to research how best to do "slavery reparations" by the Federal government. The commission of seven is appointed by Nancy Pelosi (3), Obama (3), and Senator Robert Byrd (1). They have eight Million dollars appropriated for this commission and the power of subpoena. They are supposed to report back to the House in 90 days with their recommendations.

I continue to be amazed.

[JoeChalupa]

Why slavery ever existed in this Country amazes me.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Are Mexicans going to get in on this?

[The Reckoning]

this was sooo 145 years ago

[JoeChalupa]

Are Mexicans going to get in on this?

I think Wal-Mart is on this already.

[ashbeeigh]

Because adding even more debt to the national budget is awesome. :tu

Isn't this visited like every few years and squashed?

[koriwhat]

reparations... fuckin' retarded.

[peewee's lovechild]

Reparations is stupid as hell.

Having said that, if Reparations goes through . . . I'll be expecting a whole new round of Reparations for Hispanics.

Fuck, if one group gets them, then all the groups who have been fucked in the past better get them as well.

[peewee's lovechild]

Reparation is just such a stupid concept.

[peewee's lovechild]

Give everyone who wants Reparations 40 acres in the western deserts and a mule.

That would be fair.

[JudynTX]

Here we go again. :lmao

[Al Sharpton]

Reparation is just such a stupid concept.

So was slavery and those so called "treaties" the white man loved so much with the Native Americans.

[peewee's lovechild]

So was slavery and those so called "treaties" the white man loved so much with the Native Americans.

:lol:lol
Pinche, mouse.

Anyway, can someone tell me why African Americans should get Reparations before the Native Americans do?

And, don't give me this shit that they have autonomy in the Reservations.

We should give them the entire midwest, or maybe Mississippi.

[JoeChalupa]

http://www.california-lims.com/miscimages/michealbuffer.jpg
Let's get ready to rumble!!!!!

[Blake]

.......(7) Recommend appropriate remedies in consideration of the Commission's findings on the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4). In making such recommendations, the Commission shall address among other issues, the following questions:

(A) Whether the Government of the United States should offer a formal apology on behalf of the people of the United States for the perpetration of gross human rights violations on African slaves and their descendants.

(B) Whether African-Americans still suffer from the lingering effects of the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4).

(C) Whether, in consideration of the Commission's findings, any form of compensation to the descendants of African slaves is warranted.

(D) If the Commission finds that such compensation is warranted, what should be the amount of compensation, what form of compensation should be awarded, and who should be eligible for such compensation.

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/webreturn/?url=http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.40:

I know all of us are thinking about Dave Chapelle

[InRareForm]

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[BacktoBasics]

Lets discuss reparations for discriminating against black people while we continually discriminate on tax paying homosexuals.

Because one we used to treat like a 10th of a human being that didn't pay taxes but now gets treated equally and pays taxes while the other pays 100% of their taxes and still gets treated like a 10th of a human being.

[Blake]

Lets discuss reparations for discriminating against black people while we continually discriminate on tax paying homosexuals.

Because one we used to treat like a 10th of a human being that didn't pay taxes but now gets treated equally and pays taxes while the other pays 100% of their taxes and still gets treated like a 10th of a human being.

when was it ever legal to capture, enslave, buy and sell homosexuals?

stupid post of the day

[peewee's lovechild]

Lets discuss reparations for discriminating against black people while we continually discriminate on tax paying homosexuals.

Because one we used to treat like a 10th of a human being that didn't pay taxes but now gets treated equally and pays taxes while the other pays 100% of their taxes and still gets treated like a 10th of a human being.

They don't get treated like human being because they aren't even allowed to get married like most human beings do.

[peewee's lovechild]

when was it ever legal to capture, enslave, buy and sell homosexuals?

Slaves were allowed to get married.

Homesexuals are not.

[koriwhat]

They don't get treated like human being because they aren't even allowed to get married like most human beings do.

marriage is overrated anyhow and it's a means to an end for most.

[BacktoBasics]

when was it ever legal to capture, enslave, buy and sell homosexuals?

stupid post of the dayOh so some discrimination is okay but some isn't. I agree its not a total apples to apples comparison but the principle of discrimination is still present. I also consider the issue compounded because in modern time we still haven't figured out how to treat people.


They don't get treated like human being because they aren't even allowed to get married like most human beings do.That's why I said "10th of a human being".

[peewee's lovechild]

marriage is overrated anyhow and it's a means to an end for most.

My opinions on it aside, it still doesn't make it right to deny them the right that the rest of humanity has.

[ididnotnothat]

Oh so some discrimination is okay but some isn't. I agree its not a total apples to apples comparison but the principle of discrimination is still present. I also consider the issue compounded because in modern time we still haven't figured out how to treat people.

That's why I said "10th of a human being".

You mean like homeless people living in tents?

[CosmicCowboy]

I never realized that gay marriage was such a burning issue with you macho guys.

[peewee's lovechild]

Oh so some discrimination is okay but some isn't. I agree its not a total apples to apples comparison but the principle of discrimination is still present. I also consider the issue compounded because in modern time we still haven't figured out how to treat people.

That's why I said "10th of a human being".

I know.

But, they don't even get the respect of being treated like a 10th of a human being.

[peewee's lovechild]

You mean like homeless people living in tents?

Yea, giving people equal rights is the same as giving people handouts.

Nice one.

You hit that one right out of the park.

[JoeChalupa]

Marriage rocks!!

[peewee's lovechild]

I never realized that gay marriage was such a burning issue with you macho guys.

I never realized it was such a threat to you.

Could it be that you're too afraid that you'd be tempted to try and tap some young guy's ass?

[ididnotnothat]

Yea, giving people equal rights is the same as giving people handouts.

Nice one.

You hit that one right out of the park.

Treating them with respect costs nothing. :rolleyes

[Trainwreck2100]

we do have reparations, its called Welfair

[The Reckoning]

lol now they are going to give reparations to all women. im sure thatd work out fine...

[JoeChalupa]

we do have reparations, its called Welfair

Welfair has no racial barriers.

[peewee's lovechild]

Treating them with respect costs nothing. :rolleyes

Then, give them the right to get married.

You know, like the rest of us humans.

[peewee's lovechild]

we do have reparations, its called Welfair

:lol

[ididnotnothat]

Then, give them the right to get married.

You know, like the rest of us humans.

I was referring to the homeless. I support gay marriage rights.

[peewee's lovechild]

I was referring to the homeless. I support gay marriage rights.

I know what you were referring to.

What B2B was referring to was treating homosexuals like another class of people by denying them a civil right.

You brought up the homeless with no apparent point. I simply called you out on it.

[ididnotnothat]

I know what you were referring to.

What B2B was referring to was treating homosexuals like another class of people by denying them a civil right.

You brought up the homeless with no apparent point. I simply called you out on it.

I called B2B out because he treats the homeless like a different class of human beings. Hypocrite.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Then, give them the right to get married.

You know, like the rest of us humans.

Actually, they have the right to get married exactly like the rest of us. They'd prefer to have a special right to get married differently than the rest of us.

[JoeChalupa]

Actually, they have the right to get married exactly like the rest of us. They'd prefer to have a special right to get married differently than the rest of us.

Huh!?!?

[Blake]

Slaves were allowed to get married.

Homesexuals are not.

I never realized how good slaves had it until you put it that way.

[Red Hawk #21]

Huh!?!?

I think he's trying to say that gay people are allowed to marry people from the opposite sex but they choose not to.

[JoeChalupa]

I think he's trying to say that gay people are allowed to marry people from the opposite sex but they choose not to.

Thank for clearing that up. MY stupid retarded ass missed it.

[peewee's lovechild]

I called B2B out because he treats the homeless like a different class of human beings. Hypocrite.

No he doesn't you stupid shit.

He's just against giving people, who are totally capable of fending for themselves, handouts.

[CosmicCowboy]

Then, give them the right to get married.

You know, like the rest of us humans.

You guys just don't get it. Civil Unions would give them the same legal protections (hospital visitations, purchasing property together, etc.) as marriage without opening up civil litigation reverse discrimination issues like forcing a priest to perform a service his religion did not approve of and/or getting civil damages if he doesn't...I am not a homophobe and could care less about same sex relationships but that doesn't mean that I don't respect the right of someone to feel differently.

[Blake]

Lets discuss reparations for discriminating against black people while we continually discriminate on tax paying homosexuals.

Because one we used to treat like a 10th of a human being that didn't pay taxes but now gets treated equally and pays taxes while the other pays 100% of their taxes and still gets treated like a 10th of a human being.

= stupid a$$ post of the day

go ahead and look even more stupid in alluding to the idea that I think discrimination on any level is ok.

[peewee's lovechild]

Actually, they have the right to get married exactly like the rest of us. They'd prefer to have a special right to get married differently than the rest of us.

Homosexuals are allowed to get legally married in every state of the Union??

Really?

We need to alert the news media on this.

[peewee's lovechild]

I never realized how good slaves had it until you put it that way.

I'm glad you're opening yourself to new horizons.

[peewee's lovechild]

I think he's trying to say that gay people are allowed to marry people from the opposite sex but they choose not to.

So, he attempted to make a point but looked stupid in the process.

[ididnotnothat]

No he doesn't you stupid shit.

He's just against giving people, who are totally capable of fending for themselves, handouts.

No he isn't. He himself said he doesn't feel sorry for them. You are just too stupid to see it.

[ididnotnothat]

So, he attempted to make a point but looked stupid in the process.

You make yourself look stupid by calling everyone else stupid because they dare think differently. Now that is retarded.

[JoeChalupa]

:lmao

[Blake]

Homosexuals are allowed to get legally married in every state of the Union??

Really?

We need to alert the news media on this.

yes, they can marry members of the opposite sex if they want to.

no need to alert the media.

[Blake]

I'm glad you're opening yourself to new horizons.

It's pretty pathetic that you aren't.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Welfair has no racial barriers.
or spelling barriers

[peewee's lovechild]

Civil Unions would give them the same legal protections

They don't want that!!!

You don't seem to be getting it!!

They want the same rights everyone else has! And, you're point about forcing priests to marry gays is ludicrous.

There are gay priests who are more than willing to marry gay couples.

[peewee's lovechild]

No he isn't. He himself said he doesn't feel sorry for them. You are just too stupid to see it.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, apparently.

He said he doesn't feel sorry for people that are completely capable of fending for themselves.

You would understand that if you would only learn to read properly, but your IQ probably gets in the way.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Are Mexicans going to get in on this?well in my opinion a lot of mexicans are still slaves.

[peewee's lovechild]

You make yourself look stupid by calling everyone else stupid because they dare think differently. Now that is retarded.

Once again . . . reading comprehension problems.

Go back and read what he posted. Then go to the post where Hawk explains what he said.

Then, come back and try to explain it all.

Or, is that too much for you?

[DarkReign]

Reparations...HA!

You give my tax dollars to descendants of slaves, see what fucking happens.

People are out of their goddamn minds. I dont owe you shit on a shingle, much less place to throw it away.

Absolutely ridiculous and has about, oh....ZERO fucking chance of passing.

[peewee's lovechild]

yes, they can marry members of the opposite sex if they want to.

no need to alert the media.

So, it's okay as long as you ask them to marry people they don't want to marry.

Okay, you make plenty of sense.

Since we are going down the road of forcing people to marry members of the sex they don't want to marry . . . why don't we make you marry one of the UTSA dudes you hate so much?

[ididnotnothat]

Once again . . . reading comprehension problems.

Go back and read what he posted. Then go to the post where Hawk explains what he said.

Then, come back and try to explain it all.

Or, is that too much for you?

You are so far up his ass but you are just to plain stupid to see it.

[ididnotnothat]

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, apparently.

He said he doesn't feel sorry for people that are completely capable of fending for themselves.

You would understand that if you would only learn to read properly, but your IQ probably gets in the way.

You need to get back on the sauce because you made much more sense when you where just an asshole.

[peewee's lovechild]

You are so far up his ass but you are just to plain stupid to see it.

There goes your IQ again, getting in the way.

[JoeChalupa]

well in my opinion a lot of mexicans are still slaves.

There is some truth to that.

[peewee's lovechild]

You need to get back on the sauce because you made much more sense when you where just an asshole.

You just need to learn to read.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm glad I'm not the only stupid one around here.

[BacktoBasics]

I called B2B out because he treats the homeless like a different class of human beings. Hypocrite.The homeless have the ability to be treated equally. There is no laws preventing them from seeking employment, serving their country or getting married.

Nothing hypocritical about it. I'm fine with a homeless guy getting married. Fine with him or her seeking a tax break and so on. I fully support a homeless man having every law abiding right as a guy who is a functional piece of society.

You have me confused with a stigma associated with them I'm supporting the homeless seeking a way out not in support of keeping them down.

So basically you have a complete misuse of the word hypocrite as it pertains to me.

[Blake]

They don't want that!!!

You don't seem to be getting it!!

They want the same rights everyone else has! And, you're point about forcing priests to marry gays is ludicrous.

There are gay priests who are more than willing to marry gay couples.

you don't seem to get it.

They want more rights than what currently exist for every person equally.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

There is some truth to that.
yeah, but they just don't bitch like...........oh nevermind. :wakeup

[BacktoBasics]

= stupid a$$ post of the day

go ahead and look even more stupid in alluding to the idea that I think discrimination on any level is ok.Your butt sure does hurt hard for me on a regular basis.

[BacktoBasics]

you don't seem to get it.

They want more rights than what currently exist for every person equally.Exactly what additional rights do they seek that goes above and beyond the rights you and I have?

I'd like a list please.

[Blake]

So, it's okay as long as you ask them to marry people they don't want to marry.

I'm not asking or forcing them to marry anyone.


Okay, you make plenty of sense.

you comparing today's gays to slaves that got whipped in 1864 makes perfect sense.


Since we are going down the road of forcing people to marry members of the sex they don't want to marry . . . why don't we make you marry one of the UTSA dudes you hate so much?

nobody is forcing anyone to marry anyone they don't want to.

It's my right not to have to marry a utsa dude.

[peewee's lovechild]

you don't seem to get it.

They want more rights than what currently exist for every person equally.

So, are you saying that they can legally get married in every state of the Union?

You mean to say that they can LEGALLY get married in Texas?

Is that what you are saying?

[peewee's lovechild]

yeah, but they just don't bitch like...........oh nevermind. :wakeup

Wow.

Finally something I agree with.

[Blake]

Exactly what additional rights do they seek that goes above and beyond the rights you and I have?

I'd like a list please.

homosexuals want to the right to marry other gay men/women.

That's all I got for now. It seems to me they enjoy all the same rights that I enjoy.

[peewee's lovechild]

It's my right not to have to marry a utsa dude.

Correct!!

It should be a homosexual's right to marry who they want.

I'm glad we agree on this.

[Blake]

So, are you saying that they can legally get married in every state of the Union?

yes


You mean to say that they can LEGALLY get married in Texas?

yes


Is that what you are saying?

yes


are you sure?

yes


are you positive

yes


so you are saying that a gay man can marry another gay man in TEXAS????????????????????

no

[Blake]

Correct!!

It should be a homosexual's right to marry who they want.

I'm glad we agree on this.

I never said they should or shouldn't have that right.

[BacktoBasics]

homosexuals want to the right to marry other gay men/women.

The same right you have to marry a women. This isn't an additional provision. They simply want equality. So basically you mouth off again and have absolutely nothing to support your statement.


That's all I got for now. It seems to me they enjoy all the same rights that I enjoy.You are quite possibly the dumbest person here.

[peewee's lovechild]

homosexuals want to the right to marry other gay men/women.

That's all I got for now. It seems to me they enjoy all the same rights that I enjoy.

They want to marry who they want to marry.

You have that right, they don't.

It's really not hard to understand.

[koriwhat]

Welfair has no racial barriers.

no but student aid does... i mean yeah whites can get financial aid too but a free ride through a university? nah.

i'm not trying to say this nation shouldn't be sorry for the injustices of a shit ton of people, but what has been done has been done and paying the great great great great great great grandchildren of slaves isn't gonna fix a damn thing. people will get the money, spend it on bs, and then bitch more about the injustices they are facing in today's time. it's just bs.

we should simply learn from the past and better our future as a nation.

[BacktoBasics]

I never said they should or shouldn't have that right.

You said


you don't seem to get it.

They want more rights than what currently exist for every person equally.Then you couldn't support that statement with anything.

So who exactly doesn't get it?

I'm still waiting for a list.

[peewee's lovechild]

I never said they should or shouldn't have that right.

Then what the fuck are you talking about?

[Dr. Gonzo]

Homos are funny. I watched RuPaul's Drag Race last night and lol'd at their quirky antics. Walking around all gay and such.

[BacktoBasics]

This thread is not going well for Blake

[peewee's lovechild]

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Fucking A, you are all sorts of stupid.

[CosmicCowboy]

They don't want that!!!

You don't seem to be getting it!!

They want the same rights everyone else has! And, you're point about forcing priests to marry gays is ludicrous.

There are gay priests who are more than willing to marry gay couples.

I don't really give a fuck what they want. Civil Unions give them all the same legal rights as marriage without giving them the additional right to litigate and force everyone else in the world to accept their view.

Of course there are gay priests that would love to marry gays, but there are also priests, ministers, and religions that DON'T advocate or approve of gay marriage. Most of these radical gay marriage advocates are attention whores that wouldn't hesitate a second to sue a preacher that refused to do a service they did not believe in.

[Blake]

The homeless have the ability to be treated equally. There is no laws preventing them from seeking employment, serving their country or getting married.

there are currently no laws preventing homosexuals from doing any of those things.


Nothing hypocritical about it. I'm fine with a homeless guy getting married. Fine with him or her seeking a tax break and so on. I fully support a homeless man having every law abiding right as a guy who is a functional piece of society.

You have me confused with a stigma associated with them I'm supporting the homeless seeking a way out not in support of keeping them down.

So basically you have a complete misuse of the word hypocrite as it pertains to me.

I'm not sure you are a hypocrite.

You are just an idiot that somehow thinks discriminating against tax-paying homosexuals today = non-taxpaying slaves in the 1800s.

[BacktoBasics]

I don't really give a fuck what they want. Civil Unions give them all the same legal rights as marriage without giving them the additional right to litigate and force everyone else in the world to accept their view.

Of course there are gay priests that would love to marry gays, but there are also priests, ministers, and religions that DON'T advocate or approve of gay marriage. Most of these radical gay marriage advocates are attention whores that wouldn't hesitate a second to sue a preacher that refused to do a service they did not believe in.Exactly how many states legally allow Civil Unions but not "marriage"?

[mrsmaalox]

They don't want that!!!


Of course they want that! But it's only one part of what they deserve.
Denying them marriage is a violation of religious freedom (civil and religious marriages are two separate institutions). The main reason for denying marriage to gay couples is that all major religions consider homosexuality a sin; however, the First Amendment of the Constitution clearly states that a person's religious views or lack thereof must be protected. Marriage by the state is a secular activity; the government cannot start making laws just because a religion says they should. What's next, should we make taking the Lord's name in vain a criminal activity because Christians consider it a breaking of a commandment? So the legal aspect is the main struggle at this time. First things first.

[Blake]

You are quite possibly the dumbest person here.

this coming from the moron that thinks the legalization of whipping a Black slave is the same thing as not allowing a man to marry another man.

you are an idiot.

[BacktoBasics]

there are currently no laws preventing homosexuals from doing any of those things.



I'm not sure you are a hypocrite.

You are just an idiot that somehow thinks discriminating against tax-paying homosexuals today = non-taxpaying slaves in the 1800s.Look you fucking dimwitted moron. I said it wasn't an apples to apples comparison. Its was discrimination in principle. Here in caps I EVEN SAID IT WASN'T AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.

There are laws that prevent homos from having unions that afford them the same tax advantages and spousal benefits as married couples. This is a large portion of what they're fight for. Are you really this blind and stupid.

100-1 you still don't get the last paragraph.

[CuckingFunt]

I don't really give a fuck what they want. Civil Unions give them all the same legal rights as marriage

No. They don't.


without giving them the additional right to litigate and force everyone else in the world to accept their view.

But forcing everyone to accept the heterosexual view is okay?


Of course there are gay priests that would love to marry gays, but there are also priests, ministers, and religions that DON'T advocate or approve of gay marriage. Most of these radical gay marriage advocates are attention whores that wouldn't hesitate a second to sue a preacher that refused to do a service they did not believe in.

Since you feel qualified to generalize as to what "most of these radical gay marriage advocates" are and feel, I can only assume that you know them, personally. Correct?

[BacktoBasics]

this coming from the moron that thinks the legalization of whipping a Black slave is the same thing as not allowing a man to marry another man.

you are an idiot.

You can't read. You can't comprehend. YOU FUCKING STUPID BLIND NARROW MINDED FUCK FACE. READ IT. I SAID IT WASN'T A FAIR COMPARISON. YOU FUCKING BLIND DUMB RETARD. THIS WAS ON THE FIRST GOD DAMN FUCKING PAGE YOU STUPID FUCK.


Oh so some discrimination is okay but some isn't. I agree its not a total apples to apples comparison but the principle of discrimination is still present. I also consider the issue compounded because in modern time we still haven't figured out how to treat people.

[Blake]

Fucking A, you are all sorts of stupid.

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

[Red Hawk #21]

Wow.

Finally something I agree with.

You seriously agree with that? That sounds moronic to me, how can you compare black slavery with Mexican workers? Black slaves were taken from Africa, Kings, princes, priests, workers all were enslaved. They were beaten and they were completely powerless. Thousands of slaves were killed over the years.

Do you see the same things happening with Mexican Workers? Nope. The Mexicanos do very very tough labor but they are not killed or beaten like slaves. And btw, I do not agree with Slave reparations one bit.

[Blake]

You can't read. You can't comprehend. YOU FUCKING STUPID BLIND NARROW MINDED FUCK FACE. READ IT. I SAID IT WASN'T A FAIR COMPARISON. YOU FUCKING BLIND DUMB RETARD. THIS WAS ON THE FIRST GOD DAMN FUCKING PAGE YOU STUPID FUCK.

I like the use of curse words and giant blue font.


This thread must not be going good for you.

You still have retracted your "tenth of a human" comparisons, so I'll go ahead and assume that you still feel that way.

You are an idiiot.

[BacktoBasics]

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.This is the dumbest argument I have ever read in my entire life.

The man doesn't want an additional right. He doesn't want to marry a women plus a man. Just a fucking man. He wants a fair union.

Seriously you can't possibly think this way.

[BacktoBasics]

I like the use of curse words and giant blue font.


This thread must not be going good for you.I did it so you can fucking read what you failed to read on page one. You're the idiot for failing to read it.

Arguing with me over shit I already pointed out on the first page.

[Blake]

This is the dumbest argument I have ever read in my entire life.

The man doesn't want an additional right. He doesn't want to marry a women plus a man. Just a fucking man. He wants a fair union.

Seriously you can't possibly think this way.

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

[Dr. Gonzo]

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

If everyone had equal right to marry either a man or woman would the gays really be getting something more than what non-homos are getting?

[CuckingFunt]

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

You straight people are entirely too hung up on gender.

You have the right to marry and legally share your life with the person you love and to whom you are committed. A gay man wants the right to marry and legally share his life with the person he loves and to whom he is committed. A lesbian wants the right to marry and legally share her life with the person she loves and to whom she is committed.

[BacktoBasics]

I like the use of curse words and giant blue font.


This thread must not be going good for you.

You still have retracted your "tenth of a human" comparisons, so I'll go ahead and assume that you still feel that way.

You are an idiiot.I never retracted. I put it into to perspective so a moron like yourself can understand.

No retraction

Just clarification

I know you still don't get it. You never will because this is what you do. You find some minor mundane point and push it to death despite the fact that its been addressed. Then claim victory. You're a horrible communicator and even worse at comprehension.

You have still failed to produce a list of "extra laws" the gays require.

Man and Man = +1 is the dumbest train of thought I've ever seen. Produce something worthwhile.

[mrsmaalox]

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

Blake, maybe if you point out that same-sex marriage is illegal for all Americans, not just gay ones, they'll understand the kind of equality you are referring to.

[BacktoBasics]

You straight people are entirely too hung up on gender.

You have the right to marry and legally share your life with the person you love and to whom you are committed. A gay man wants the right to marry and legally share his life with the person he loves and to whom he is committed. A lesbian wants the right to marry and legally share her life with the person she loves and to whom she is committed.He'll never get it.

Having a choice in his eyes equates to special treatment. Its sad and pathetic that people see things this way.

[CuckingFunt]

Blake, maybe if you point out that same-sex marriage is illegal for all Americans, not just gay ones, they'll understand the kind of equality you are referring to.

Oh, I understand it. I think we all understand the point he's trying to make.

That doesn't make it any less asinine, though.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I like how gays are being compared to slaves.

[CuckingFunt]

I like how gays are being compared to slaves.

Well, that's just silly, but I chose to ignore that part.

[mrsmaalox]

You straight people are entirely too hung up on gender.

"You straight people"?? Wow.

[JoeChalupa]

no but student aid does... i mean yeah whites can get financial aid too but a free ride through a university? nah.

i'm not trying to say this nation shouldn't be sorry for the injustices of a shit ton of people, but what has been done has been done and paying the great great great great great great grandchildren of slaves isn't gonna fix a damn thing. people will get the money, spend it on bs, and then bitch more about the injustices they are facing in today's time. it's just bs.

we should simply learn from the past and better our future as a nation.

I personally know 2 white kids who are going to college on a free ride through grants and scholarhips.
Far too many have not learned from our past. Oh, and yes they got financial aid too.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Maybe it's because God forced gays to be gays like the white man forced slaves to pick cotton.

[BacktoBasics]

You straight people are entirely too hung up on gender.

You have the right to marry and legally share your life with the person you love and to whom you are committed. A gay man wants the right to marry and legally share his life with the person he loves and to whom he is committed. A lesbian wants the right to marry and legally share her life with the person she loves and to whom she is committed.


a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

Here is a perfect example of normal thought process vs. total stupidity.

I must have read Blakes post 20 times. I can't fathom a mind that thinks I'm an idiot because I fail to see the math in man and man = +1. Its possibly the most absurd statement ever read here (sans angel luv posts).

He believes what he wrote.

[Blake]

I did it so you can fucking read what you failed to read on page one. You're the idiot for failing to read it.

curse words and giant blue font is always a great way to prove one's lame point.


Arguing with me over shit I already pointed out on the first page.

and yet you still don't get it.

you are ignorant and an idiot.

[CosmicCowboy]

I am all for civil unions for gays.

I am even all for them being able to go down to their local Holy Temple of the Flatulent Anus and having their "marriage" sanctified by like minded individuals that share their spiritual and moral beliefs.

I do NOT believe in the STATE sanctifying same sex marriage and making it a "right".

That AUTOMATICALLY forces 100% of the population to accept and accommodate their view or be in direct violation of the law.

Yes, a same sex couple COULD walk into the First Baptist Church, of Conservative, Texas and FORCE the Minister of said church to perform a same sex marriage or be subject to Civil Litigation and Criminal prosecution.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I don't see what the big deal is. If a dude wants a dude let him marry a dude. I don't get what the trouble is.

[peewee's lovechild]

I don't really give a fuck what they want. Civil Unions give them all the same legal rights as marriage without giving them the additional right to litigate and force everyone else in the world to accept their view.

Of course there are gay priests that would love to marry gays, but there are also priests, ministers, and religions that DON'T advocate or approve of gay marriage. Most of these radical gay marriage advocates are attention whores that wouldn't hesitate a second to sue a preacher that refused to do a service they did not believe in.

I know you don't give a fuck.

That's part of the problem.

And, your point about the priests continues to have no validity whatsoever.

You're trying to make a point that gays want the right to get married so they can force priests, possibly your priest, to marry them in the priest's church.

That point is baseless.

[JoeChalupa]

What I don't understand is why people cannot have discussions without pulling the "stupid" or "retarded" cards. :lmao

[Blake]

Blake, maybe if you point out that same-sex marriage is illegal for all Americans, not just gay ones, they'll understand the kind of equality you are referring to.

naw, I might get more of the giant blue font.

[CuckingFunt]

"You straight people"?? Wow.

Might be time to check the battery on your sarcasm detector.

[BacktoBasics]

I like how gays are being compared to slaves.Look Blake compounded that statement and ran with it. I on the very first fucking page addressed that it wasn't an apples to apples comparison but it was discrimination in principle. He just didn't want to read that part because it ruined his 3 page unfounded rant against me.

FOR THE RECORD IT WAS TOO BROAD OF A GENERALIZATION EVEN THOUGH IT WAS STILL ROOTED IN BIGOTRY.

[BacktoBasics]

I am all for civil unions for gays.

I am even all for them being able to go down to their local Holy Temple of the Flatulent Anus and having their "marriage" sanctified by like minded individuals that share their spiritual and moral beliefs.

I do NOT believe in the STATE sanctifying same sex marriage and making it a "right".

That AUTOMATICALLY forces 100% of the population to accept and accommodate their view or be in direct violation of the law.

Yes, a same sex couple COULD walk into the First Baptist Church, of Conservative, Texas and FORCE the Minister of said church to perform a same sex marriage or be subject to Civil and Criminal prosecution.Show me where Civil Unions are even allowed. I think for the most part gay people feel reasonably well with having a "union" so long as they get treated equally by said union as do all by marriage.

Call it something different so long as they qualify for the same rights and breaks.

Thats the hang up though. They don't even get that.

[CuckingFunt]

That AUTOMATICALLY forces 100% of the population to accept and accommodate their view or be in direct violation of the law.

How, exactly, is this different or better than the current structure in which everyone is forced to accept and accommodate the heterosexual lifestyle? Why is alienating half of the population okay in one direction, but not the other?

[Blake]

You straight people are entirely too hung up on gender.

You have the right to marry and legally share your life with the person you love and to whom you are committed. A gay man wants the right to marry and legally share his life with the person he loves and to whom he is committed. A lesbian wants the right to marry and legally share her life with the person she loves and to whom she is committed.

If gays ultimately get that right (which sooner or later they will) then great. Good for them.

[Blake]

He'll never get it.

Having a choice in his eyes equates to special treatment. Its sad and pathetic that people see things this way.

no doubt it's better to see that gay rights = whipping Blacks like you do.

[mrsmaalox]

What I don't understand is why people cannot have discussions without pulling the "stupid" or "retarded" cards. :lmao

Because they're stupid or retarded??

[BacktoBasics]

curse words and giant blue font is always a great way to prove one's lame point.



and yet you still don't get it.

you are ignorant and an idiot.Do you even fucking realize that you're calling me an idiot and ignorant when I agreed with you on page 1?

Do you realize that?

Jesus Christ Blake. You're criticizing me for something I already agree with you on.

When will you understand that? When?

[JoeChalupa]

I think it'll be great for everyone

[cherylsteele]

you don't seem to get it.

They want more rights than what currently exist for every person equally.They do??

[Dr. Gonzo]

How, exactly, is this different or better than the current structure in which everyone is forced to accept and accommodate the heterosexual lifestyle? Why is alienating half of the population okay in one direction, but not the other?

Because the hetero lifestyle is right.

[JoeChalupa]

Because they're stupid or retarded??

:lmao

[Blake]

Oh, I understand it. I think we all understand the point he's trying to make.

That doesn't make it any less asinine, though.

No......I'm thinking the point is not coming across all that clearly.....

the fact that gay rights talk came into this thread at all is asinine.

[BacktoBasics]

Because they're stupid or retarded??

Perhaps when things like this stop being typed. Or when people stop arguing over points that are already agreed upon.


a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

[CuckingFunt]

Because the hetero lifestyle is right.

Ooooh, okay. Now I get it.

[Blake]

Here is a perfect example of normal thought process vs. total stupidity.

I must have read Blakes post 20 times. I can't fathom a mind that thinks I'm an idiot because I fail to see the math in man and man = +1. Its possibly the most absurd statement ever read here (sans angel luv posts).

He believes what he wrote.

you had to read it 20 times and you still don't get it?

you are an idiot.

[peewee's lovechild]

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.


Your idiocy knows no bounds.

You're just embarrasing yourself at this point.

A gay person, man or woman, obviously has no interest in marrying someone of their opposite sex. Currently, let me get up to speed on current events, gay people can not legally get married.

You're trying to make an absurd point, if you can even call it that. But, the only thing that comes through is your brilliant stupidity.

[BacktoBasics]

No......I'm thinking the point is not coming across all that clearly.....

the fact that gay rights talk came into this thread at all is asinine.You don't have a point. You spent three pages fighting over a statement that was immediately addressed on the first page for being too broad.

Then you stated that gays want additional rights that straights don't have. Then provided no such laws they were requesting (because none exist) and put out some half assed math to support your ludicrous and bigoted view.

[cherylsteele]

homosexuals want to the right to marry other gay men/women.

That's all I got for now. It seems to me they enjoy all the same rights that I enjoy.
If they recieved the right to marry the same sex, you would have that right too. Nobody would ask if if you are actually gay or staright when you get married.

[mrsmaalox]

Might be time to check the battery on your sarcasm detector.

Ah I see. When you do it, it's sarcasm? Riiiiiiight :tu

[DoubtingThomas]

Many people still have their doubts.

http://www.jewcy.com/files/images/gay_marriage_opponents-1-731273.jpg

[Blake]

I am all for civil unions for gays.

I am even all for them being able to go down to their local Holy Temple of the Flatulent Anus and having their "marriage" sanctified by like minded individuals that share their spiritual and moral beliefs.

I do NOT believe in the STATE sanctifying same sex marriage and making it a "right".

That AUTOMATICALLY forces 100% of the population to accept and accommodate their view or be in direct violation of the law.

Yes, a same sex couple COULD walk into the First Baptist Church, of Conservative, Texas and FORCE the Minister of said church to perform a same sex marriage or be subject to Civil Litigation and Criminal prosecution.

I see this side of it too.

Thing is, there are a lot of rights/laws we might not like, but we agree with because their rights outway my inconveniences.....for lack of a better word.

If it were up to Baptists, alcohol and tobacco would be prohibited. Too bad.......they have to live with it.

[BacktoBasics]

you had to read it 20 times and you still don't get it?

you are an idiot.What do I not get?

You think a human being choosing who he/she wants to be with is fine unless its same sex then you think its a +1 law. That makes no sense. To anyone.

or are you going to say

"you're comparing slavery to gay rights"

Even though I already agreed with you prior to your multiple page rant.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Many people still have their doubts.

http://www.jewcy.com/files/images/gay_marriage_opponents-1-731273.jpg

They are possessed by demons that make them fabulous.

[CosmicCowboy]

How, exactly, is this different or better than the current structure in which everyone is forced to accept and accommodate the heterosexual lifestyle? Why is alienating half of the population okay in one direction, but not the other?


Seriously...I'm not a homophobe and I'm not deeply religious but I recognize that those sentiments exist.

I'm trying to offer a reasonable compromise.

Civil Unions give gays same and equal legal rights as a classic heterosexual marriage without having to address the competing religious and moral beliefs.

If the gay movement would quit trying for the whole marriage banana and accept the compromise of civil unions we could probably get something done.

[I Love Me Some Me]

So if/when same-sex marriages are legalized, can I marry any dude I want, or do I have to be having sex with him?

[JoeChalupa]

"I'm right and you are stupid"

"No, you are just an idiot!"

"No, 'm right and you are stupid"

"No, you are still just an idiot!"

[Blake]

Look Blake compounded that statement and ran with it. I on the very first fucking page addressed that it wasn't an apples to apples comparison but it was discrimination in principle. He just didn't want to read that part because it ruined his 3 page unfounded rant against me.

FOR THE RECORD IT WAS TOO BROAD OF A GENERALIZATION EVEN THOUGH IT WAS STILL ROOTED IN BIGOTRY.

no, you made it pretty clear that Blacks were treated as a tenth of a human back then just like homosexuals are treated like a tenth of a human today.

[Dr. Gonzo]

So if/when same-sex marriages are legalized, can I marry any dude I want, or do I have to be having sex with him?

Anal is a requirement. You must be a bottom at least twice a month.

[Blake]

Your idiocy knows no bounds.

You're just embarrasing yourself at this point.

A gay person, man or woman, obviously has no interest in marrying someone of their opposite sex. Currently, let me get up to speed on current events, gay people can not legally get married.

You're trying to make an absurd point, if you can even call it that. But, the only thing that comes through is your brilliant stupidity.

true or false: a gay man can marry a woman if he wants to.

[BacktoBasics]

I would like to know who agrees with Blake's statement below.

Who think that gay people are asking for additional laws vs. equal treatment because never in my life have I seen a gay person suggest anything other than equality.



a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.


Don't be shy just go ahead and admit you agree with him.

[Blake]

Perhaps when things like this stop being typed. Or when people stop arguing over points that are already agreed upon.

so you finally agree that gays have the same rights that I do?

it only took 7 pages. Congrats.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

"I'm right and you are stupid"

"No, you are just an idiot!"

"No, 'm right and you are stupid"

"No, you are still just an idiot!"
normal business @ spurstalk. speak the loudest and you're above all.

[Dr. Gonzo]

true or false: a gay man can marry a woman if he wants to.

If gay marriage is legal, a straight man can marry a man if he wants.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

hmmm. slavery, and bit of mexican, and now homo's.
what's next?

[Blake]

If they recieved the right to marry the same sex, you would have that right too. Nobody would ask if if you are actually gay or staright when you get married.

right, if they received that right, then I would have that right as well.

[Dr. Gonzo]

hmmm. slavery, and bit of mexican, and now homo's.
what's next?

Jews

[peewee's lovechild]

You seriously agree with that? That sounds moronic to me, how can you compare black slavery with Mexican workers? Black slaves were taken from Africa, Kings, princes, priests, workers all were enslaved. They were beaten and they were completely powerless. Thousands of slaves were killed over the years.

Do you see the same things happening with Mexican Workers? Nope. The Mexicanos do very very tough labor but they are not killed or beaten like slaves. And btw, I do not agree with Slave reparations one bit.

He wasn't comparing black slavery with Mexican workers. He was making a point that Mexican workers don't bitch about their lot in life.

This could be a detriment, though. Since they hardly ever speak up about their work situations, Chavez being the excetion, they end up getting screwed in the process.

[Red Hawk #21]

Hi my name is "Viva Las Espuelas and I think that Mexican Workers should be compared to African Slaves. I'm also the same moron who thinks that Che Guevara didn't do anything in his lifetime

:nope

[BacktoBasics]

no, you made it pretty clear that Blacks were treated as a tenth of a human back then just like homosexuals are treated like a tenth of a human today.I then turned around not a couple of posts later and said yeah you're right its was too broad of a statement and thats not entirely what I meant.

So I made it pretty clear that it wasn't a fair comparison. Can you not read the first page again? Are you incapable of seeing where I clarified my point and admitted it wasn't an apples to apples comparison?

Why do you refuse to acknowledge where I addressed my statements almost immediately after I said them?

[DoubtingThomas]

true or false: a gay man can marry a woman if he wants to.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/news/040823/jmcgreevey.jpg

No doubt about that.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Jews
nice. i've got some pretty good jew jokes.

[Blake]

I would like to know who agrees with Blake's statement below.

Who think that gay people are asking for additional laws vs. equal treatment because never in my life have I seen a gay person suggest anything other than equality.





Don't be shy just go ahead and admit you agree with him.

make a new thread with a poll.

don't be shy.

I agree with me. That's one in case your math skills still haven't improved.

[mrsmaalox]

hmmm. slavery, and bit of mexican, and now homo's.
what's next?
Retards!!!!!

[CuckingFunt]

Ah I see. When you do it, it's sarcasm? Riiiiiiight :tu

When I'm being sarcastic it's sarcasm, yes.

[Blake]

I then turned around not a couple of posts later and said yeah you're right its was too broad of a statement and thats not entirely what I meant.

So I made it pretty clear that it wasn't a fair comparison. Can you not read the first page again? Are you incapable of seeing where I clarified my point and admitted it wasn't an apples to apples comparison?

Why do you refuse to acknowledge where I addressed my statements almost immediately after I said them?

Great!

Then why are we still talking gay rights in a Slavery reparations thread?

[Extra Stout]

Yes, a same sex couple COULD walk into the First Baptist Church, of Conservative, Texas and FORCE the Minister of said church to perform a same sex marriage or be subject to Civil Litigation and Criminal prosecution.
If somebody gets a divorce, and then wants to get re-married to a different person in the Catholic Church, when the Church says no, can that person sue the Church?

[Red Hawk #21]

He wasn't comparing black slavery with Mexican workers. He was making a point that Mexican workers don't bitch about their lot in life.

This could be a detriment, though. Since they hardly ever speak up about their work situations, Chavez being the excetion, they end up getting screwed in the process.

He said that Mexicans are slaves but they don't bitch as much, in my mind that sounds like comparing Black Slaves to Mexican Workers. Which is pretty idiotic.

[BacktoBasics]

so you finally agree that gays have the same rights that I do?

it only took 7 pages. Congrats.No they don't.

You have the right to chose who to have a union with.

They do not.

You get tax breaks for having a union.

They do not.

You can be open about your sexual preference in the military

They can not.

[BacktoBasics]

Great!

Then why are we still talking gay rights in a Slavery reparations thread?Because you went off for the next 2-3 pages.

You took a statement that I quickly cleared up and went ahead and ran with it.

[BacktoBasics]

make a new thread with a poll.

don't be shy.

I agree with me. That's one in case your math skills still haven't improved.
Ok I'll do it.

[dickface]

LOL @ Mexicans being slaves. When you willfully decide to illegally enter a country to work, I think you lose the right to be called a slave.

[CosmicCowboy]

I see this side of it too.

Thing is, there are a lot of rights/laws we might not like, but we agree with because their rights outway my inconveniences.....for lack of a better word.

If it were up to Baptists, alcohol and tobacco would be prohibited. Too bad.......they have to live with it.

What a stupid analogy.

Smoking and Drinking are INDIVIDUAL choices.

Marriage by definition requires three parties...a couple and a third person recognized by the state as having the legal right to perform marriages.

Legalizing same sex marriage would deny that third person the right to refuse to perform the ceremony because of their personal moral convictions and they would be subject to civil and criminal prosecution.

That's not right.

[CuckingFunt]

Seriously...I'm not a homophobe and I'm not deeply religious but I recognize that those sentiments exist.

I'm trying to offer a reasonable compromise.

Civil Unions give gays same and equal legal rights as a classic heterosexual marriage without having to address the competing religious and moral beliefs.

If the gay movement would quit trying for the whole marriage banana and accept the compromise of civil unions we could probably get something done.

The problem is that civil unions do not give gays and lesbians the same rights as a legally recognized marriage. Additionally, by calling it something different, by giving gay unions their own special and separate name, it makes it a lot easier to discriminate.

I know a lot of gay people. I don't know a single one who gives half a fuck about the word "marriage," only the rights with which that word is associated. Nor do I know a single gay person who would have any interest in forcing a ceremony in a venue within which they were not welcomed.

[dickface]

The problem is that civil unions do not give gays and lesbians the same rights as a legally recognized marriage.

Well the next time a gay or lesbian couple can have sex with each other and 9 months later produce a baby, I'll agree that they deserve the same rights.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

First you disrespect Che and then you compare Mexican workers to African Slaves. Seriously dude fuck off you moron.

:nope
indeed

[CuckingFunt]

Well the next time a gay or lesbian couple can have sex with each other and 9 months later produce a baby, I'll agree that they deserve the same rights.

Until every single straight couple gets married with the explicit intention of procreation, don't even bother with this point.

[Richard Cranium]

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/news/040823/jmcgreevey.jpg

No doubt about that.

:lol

[peewee's lovechild]

true or false: a gay man can marry a woman if he wants to.

True or False: A gay man can't legally marry a gay man in the United States of America.

[dickface]

Until every single straight couple gets married with the explicit intention of procreation, don't even bother with this point.

I'm just saying, they want equal rights when biologically they aren't "equal". One couple can produce a human baby, one can't.

[peewee's lovechild]

He said that Mexicans are slaves but they don't bitch as much, in my mind that sounds like comparing Black Slaves to Mexican Workers. Which is pretty idiotic.

I stand corrected.

You sir, are right.

[Blake]

No they don't.

You have the right to chose who to have a union with.

They do not.

I do not have the right to choose to marry another man.


You get tax breaks for having a union.

They do not.

If they got married, they would get the same tax breaks.


You can be open about your sexual preference in the military

They can not.

True and that most likely will be changed one day. They can still join the military however.

[Blake]

True or False: A gay man can't legally marry a gay man in the United States of America.

True and I can't marry another man either no matter how much you try to force me to marry one of those utsa freaks.

[CuckingFunt]

I'm just saying, they want equal rights when biologically they aren't "equal". One couple can produce a human baby, one can't.

Should straight men and women who are sterile lose their right to marry?

[peewee's lovechild]

True

Thank you.

[peewee's lovechild]

Should straight men and women who are sterile lose their right to marry?

That's good one.

Dickface's argument is ridiculous.

[CosmicCowboy]

The problem is that civil unions do not give gays and lesbians the same rights as a legally recognized marriage. Additionally, by calling it something different, by giving gay unions their own special and separate name, it makes it a lot easier to discriminate.

I know a lot of gay people. I don't know a single one who gives half a fuck about the word "marriage," only the rights with which that word is associated. Nor do I know a single gay person who would have any interest in forcing a ceremony in a venue within which they were not welcomed.

What SPECIFIC rights would marriage give that civil unions wouldn't? I have read extensively on this subject and there is basically no legal difference.

[lebomb]

True and I can't marry another man either no matter how much you try to force me to marry one of those utsa freaks.


But you are a PUSSY, so you should be happy to hook up with a Utsa chode. :toast

[Blake]

What a stupid analogy.

Smoking and Drinking are INDIVIDUAL choices.

Marriage by definition requires three parties...a couple and a third person recognized by the state as having the legal right to perform marriages.

Legalizing same sex marriage would deny that third person the right to refuse to perform the ceremony because of their personal moral convictions and they would be subject to civil and criminal prosecution.

That's not right.

The church currently does not have to marry anyone they don't want to.

The gay couple could try to sue, but they would lose.......the same way gay kids have lost in court when they get kicked out religious private schools.


Reporting from San Francisco -- After a Lutheran school expelled two 16-year-old girls for having "a bond of intimacy" that was "characteristic of a lesbian relationship," the girls sued, contending the school had violated a state anti-discrimination law.

In response to that suit, an appeals court decided this week that the private religious school was not a business and therefore did not have to comply with a state law that prohibits businesses from discriminating.


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-school28-2009jan28,0,4594347.story

...and the Baptist preacher will go on preaching about the sins of drinking, smoking and gay sex.

[Blake]

But you are a PUSSY, so you should be happy to hook up with a Utsa chode. :toast

no, I would not marry you no matter how much you wanted me to and no matter how many times you offer to lick my a-hole.

[I Love Me Some Me]

I would like to know who agrees with Blake's statement below.

Who think that gay people are asking for additional laws vs. equal treatment because never in my life have I seen a gay person suggest anything other than equality.





Don't be shy just go ahead and admit you agree with him.

To an extent, I do. Marriage laws as they exist now do not allow anyone to marry whoever they want. The restriction that you can only marry someone of the opposite sex....gay, straight, black, white....the rule is the same for everyone. So, yes, everyone has equal rights.

[Blake]

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Although it's a sad shame that it took you this long to realize they we all in fact share the same rights.

[peewee's lovechild]

You're welcome.

Although it's a sad shame that it took you this long to realize they we all in fact share the same rights.

You just agreed that they didn't.

Hence, my saying "you're welcome."

[JoeChalupa]

To an extent, I do. Marriage laws as they exist now do not allow anyone to marry whoever they want. The restriction that you can only marry someone of the opposite sex....gay, straight, black, white....the rule is the same for everyone. So, yes, everyone has equal rights.

I can understand that.

[Blake]

You just agreed that they didn't.

I guess you can't read what I wrote


Hence, my saying "you're welcome."

I guess you can't read what you wrote.


true or false: can a gay man marry a woman if he wants to?

[peewee's lovechild]

True or False: A gay man can't legally marry a gay man in the United States of America.


True


I guess you can't read what I wrote

[Blake]

I never agreed that we all don't have the same rights no matter how you misread that.

Maybe it will finally sink in on page 9.

[Blake]

true or false: can a gay man marry a woman if he wants to?

[Bigzax]

regarding reparations, i got $5 on it. :tu

[peewee's lovechild]

true or false: can a gay man marry a woman if he wants to?

No, because he would never want to.

That question is beyond ludicrous.

[peewee's lovechild]

regarding reparations, i got $5 on it. :tu

No mule?

[CosmicCowboy]

No mule?

Hell...If they can find any former US slaves I'm all for giving them 40 acres in downtown Washington DC and a whole fucking HERD of mules. If they CAN'T find any former slaves then they need to just shut the fuck up.

BTW, glad to see you hoto's off of pimpin gay marriage and back on topic.

[Blake]

No, because he would never want to.

That question is beyond ludicrous.

so no gay man has ever gone back to being straight?

and I'm not talking about what you think a gay man would or would not want to do. I am talking about a gay man's legal rights.

which I think we are on page 9 now and you still don't get this simple fact.

[BacktoBasics]

How's that poll going for you Blake?

[ElBorracho]

Hell...If they can find any former US slaves I'm all for giving them 40 acres in downtown Washington DC and a whole fucking HERD of mules. If they CAN'T find any former slaves then they need to just shut the fuck up.

BTW, glad to see you hoto's off of pimpin gay marriage and back on topic.

Its "joto's" dumbass.

[oklahomasuckstexas]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m219/tobechi2006/WhiteWomen.jpg?t=1237490091

[DarkReign]

If somebody gets a divorce, and then wants to get re-married to a different person in the Catholic Church, when the Church says no, can that person sue the Church?

...ahem....

[CosmicCowboy]

Its "joto's" dumbass.

oops. My apologies for the typo joto.

[JoeChalupa]

So, did anyone with one point of view change due to something another person posted with an opposing view?

[peewee's lovechild]

BTW, glad to see you hoto's off of pimpin gay marriage and back on topic.

Spell it right, pendejo.

I'ts "jotos". As in the group of guys that you're intimidated by because you're afraid that you might actually like thier lifestyle.

[peewee's lovechild]

and I'm not talking about what you think a gay man would or would not want to do. I am talking about a gay man's legal rights.

That's what we're talking about.

And, a gay man does not have the legal right to marry his partner.

So, once again . . . thank you.

[Blake]

How's that poll going for you Blake?

Last I checked, it was your poll.

Polls asking people if a fact is really a fact is always a great way to disprove the fact, especially when it appears many of the people reading your thread are misunderstanding the point of the poll.

Some are pro-gay rights, so therefore they are voting #1.

[Blake]

That's what we're talking about.

And, a gay man does not have the legal right to marry his partner.

So, once again . . . thank you.

a gay man does not have the right to marry another man.

Neither do I.

Once again you're welcome.

Page 9.

[BacktoBasics]

Last I checked, it was your poll.

Polls asking people if a fact is really a fact is always a great way to disprove the fact, especially when it appears many of the people reading your thread are misunderstanding the point of the poll.

Some are pro-gay rights, so therefore they are voting #1.Its your quote and its opposition. Sorry you don't like the results. You were the one that suggested the poll.

[Blake]

So, did anyone with one point of view change due to something another person posted with an opposing view?

pretty rare when it does.

[Blake]

Its your quote and its opposition. Sorry you don't like the results. You were the one that suggested the poll.

:lol

you were the one that started the poll, jeenyus. I just (sarcastically) said to open a new one and move it out into the club area.

On the surface it's easy to vote #1 because #2 appears to be "anti-gay".

[Blake]

hell, the thread has already turned into a gay rights thread when that's not even the question.

Nice job.

[BacktoBasics]

On the surface it's easy to vote #1 because #2 appears to be "anti-gay".Aside from feeling that you're a total moron I think you were being anti-gay as well.

[Dark Gable]

I'll stay out of this one or risk getting banned.

[Blake]

Aside from feeling that you're a total moron I think you were being anti-gay as well.

I've clearly stated that I'm not.

You fail again.

[BacktoBasics]

I've clearly stated that I'm not.

You fail again.
Were you as clear as I was about comparing gay rights to slavery on page one?

[Blake]

Were you as clear as I was about comparing gay rights to slavery on page one?

Yes. Maybe I should start a poll though in case you don't think so.



If gays ultimately get that right (which sooner or later they will) then great. Good for them.



Lets discuss reparations for discriminating against black people while we continually discriminate on tax paying homosexuals.

Because one we used to treat like a 10th of a human being that didn't pay taxes but now gets treated equally and pays taxes while the other pays 100% of their taxes and still gets treated like a 10th of a human being.

[LnGrrrR]

After reading through the first four pages of this thread... Blake's gotta be a troll, right? I mean, he seems relatively intelligent, and is just here to antagonize people.

[LnGrrrR]

a gay man can marry a woman the same as I can.

he wants the extra right to marry another man. Extra meaning that he wants +1 on top of what he and I both already have.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic math.

You are an idiot.

Technically, they're fighting for you to have that same option, are they not?

So, using your logic, they are fighting for an extra right for everyone.

Edit: Nevermind... didn't read far enough into the thread. :D

[LnGrrrR]

Your idiocy knows no bounds.

You're just embarrasing yourself at this point.

A gay person, man or woman, obviously has no interest in marrying someone of their opposite sex. Currently, let me get up to speed on current events, gay people can not legally get married.

You're trying to make an absurd point, if you can even call it that. But, the only thing that comes through is your brilliant stupidity.

Didn't Henry Ford say you can pick whatever color of car you like, as long as it's black?

I think that's Blake's thought process here lol

[DarrinS]

Reparation is just such a stupid concept.


yep


Did I read correctly that Robert Byrd is part of this? Irony.

[Blake]

Technically, they're fighting for you to have that same option, are they not?

So, using your logic, they are fighting for an extra right for everyone.



yes

please vote in B2B's thread over in the club because he cares who agrees with him and who doesn't.

[DarrinS]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/810529/

[Blake]

People tend to forget that slavery was accepted, and a legal business for white Americans who could actually afford to own slaves. Slaves were traded on average from $100-$2,000 daily, for 310 years. There were many white families that invested great sums of wealth to buy slaves, and when emancipation was passed, they were not compensated for their lost property. There are still some whites in the south today that have filed cases against the Gov't to be compensated for their losses.

If there is ever an issue of Reparations ever to be taken seriously, then the whites who lost hundreds of millions in human live stock should be compensated.


no.

[LnGrrrR]

To go back to the OP, reparations is stupid. You'll always have some people who think that it wasn't enough, and frankly, we're hopefully only a generation or two until that type of request won't matter. Minorities today don't have to worry nearly as much as boomers did in choosing who to marry, voting, and various other civil functions.

[Illuminati]

I wonder if Greg More who spent many hours posting at ST bragging about how much money he has and owns his own business will delete his posts so it doesn't fuck up his plans to get some of the free honky cash?

[Blue Jew]

I can just see all the brothers fighting to get a good spot in the money line, it will be like a scene from the movie Boys in the hood when the Bar B Q was ready!

[oklahomasuckstexas]

yea we deserve something. it just aint right how the rest of yall treated the blacks. its time to pay it back now.

[Dr. Gonzo]

All the people that deserve any money are dead. This generation of blacks doesn't deserve shit because they didn't have to endure the slavery. Just because some distant relative that they never met or even knew existed might have been a slave doesn't mean they should get anything.

[Illuminati]

If anything we should take care of the Japs for building the railroads.

[Blue Jew]

You think the blacks have it bad, I still have to pay full price for burn cream!

[Creepn]

Shit, a promise is a promise. Give them black folks tax-free land and a car.

If a person wins a settlement of a million dollars and dies before getting that check, they still hand that check to the next of kin.

[kumar.]

How about all those fat fucks that spent their savings on Body Solutions?

where is their refund?

[Creepn]

How about all those fat fucks that spent their savings on Body Solutions?

where is their refund?


I don't see the connection with your statement with giving reparations to African Americans. Those fat fucks werent kidnapped from their homes, killed, raped, and/or recieved 50 whip lashes on their bodies for not losing weight.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I don't see the connection with your statement with giving reparations to African Americans. Those fat fucks werent kidnapped from their homes, killed, raped, and/or recieved 50 whip lashes on their bodies for not losing weight.

Neither were any of the black people alive today. Why should they get anything? They didn't suffer any slavery.

[Oh, Gee!!]

IThose fat fucks werent kidnapped from their homes, killed, raped, and/or recieved 50 whip lashes on their bodies for not losing weight.

probably why they're still fat

[Oh, Gee!!]

Neither were any of the black people alive today. Why should they get anything? They didn't suffer any slavery.

the sins of the father shall be visited upon his children?

[Re-Animator]

How about all the slaves who built the pyramids and the tower of babel?

[kid]

Some of you have your heads up your asses, I bet if you could you would try to sue Eve for eating the apple. or God for flooding the earth.

[Last Comic Standing]

Manny and Patrick Ewing should sue Darwin.

[johnsmith]

Manny and Patrick Ewing should sue Darwin.

:lmao

[Viva Las Espuelas]

.....and for copyright infringement to whoever prints out those evolution charts.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

If anything we should take care of the Japs for building the railroads.

did we ever give reparations to all the thousands of people we vaporized in nagasaki and hiroshima?............................hmmmm honestly i don't know if we did, but they sure as hell didn't let it keep them down and that was less than 60 years ago.

[Creepn]

How about all the slaves who built the pyramids and the tower of babel?


Did the goverment promise them that they would be reprimanded?

[Creepn]

did we ever give reparations to all the thousands of people we vaporized in nagasaki and hiroshima?............................hmmmm honestly i don't know if we did, but they sure as hell didn't let it keep them down and that was less than 60 years ago.


Nah I dont believe they reprimanded those folks that got blasted, but the asians that were held captive in the camps here in the states were issued a formal and public apology AND they were compensated monetarily.

[Wild Cobra]

the sins of the father shall be visited upon his children?
It goes beyond them not being alive. First of all, it was only some slaves who were promised the 40 acres. Not all. I don't recall all the details, but the mule was not part of the promise. It was given anyway. Several former slaves got the deal, before the next administration canceled the agreement.