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Nbadan
03-20-2009, 12:17 AM
Kinda surprised nobody has posted Spitzer's article....

The Real AIG Scandal
It's not the bonuses. It's that AIG's counterparties are getting paid back in full.
By Eliot Spitzer


Everybody is rushing to condemn AIG's bonuses, but this simple scandal is obscuring the real disgrace at the insurance giant: Why are AIG's counterparties getting paid back in full, to the tune of tens of billions of taxpayer dollars?

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It all appears, once again, to be the same insiders protecting themselves against sharing the pain and risk of their own bad adventure. The payments to AIG's counterparties are justified with an appeal to the sanctity of contract. If AIG's contracts turned out to be shaky, the theory goes, then the whole edifice of the financial system would collapse.

But wait a moment, aren't we in the midst of reopening contracts all over the place to share the burden of this crisis? From raising taxes—income taxes to sales taxes—to properly reopening labor contracts, we are all being asked to pitch in and carry our share of the burden. Workers around the country are being asked to take pay cuts and accept shorter work weeks so that colleagues won't be laid off. Why can't Wall Street royalty shoulder some of the burden? Why did Goldman have to get back 100 cents on the dollar? Didn't we already give Goldman a $25 billion capital infusion, and aren't they sitting on more than $100 billion in cash? Haven't we been told recently that they are beginning to come back to fiscal stability? If that is so, couldn't they have accepted a discount, and couldn't they have agreed to certain conditions before the AIG dollars—that is, our dollars—flowed?

The appearance that this was all an inside job is overwhelming. AIG was nothing more than a conduit for huge capital flows to the same old suspects, with no reason or explanation.

Slate (http://www.slate.com/id/2213942)

hmmmm....so, Mukasey and the DOJ lied in public about Spitzer in order to protect A.I.G bonuses....

...right, left, the populist anger coming at this from all sides is going to reach a point where it could simply explode...

The question could be whether its too late to effectively save the state of our nation.

Obama's been a very good President so far but he's tasked with a major bag of fuck-up to attempt to clean up. However, it remains to be seen how much he is going to be allowed to change or reverse course...

man on wire
03-20-2009, 12:19 AM
Until they bring back the Guillotine this shit will go on.

Winehole23
03-20-2009, 12:22 AM
I did post it. It might be on page two.

Nbadan
03-20-2009, 12:24 AM
...guess it hasn't made the reich-wing echo chamber...

Winehole23
03-20-2009, 12:36 AM
A too thorough understanding of the issues can impair the viability of phony outrage.

Nbadan
03-20-2009, 01:09 AM
Truth is, these bonuses were a parting gift from the former administration...

Fed knew of AIG bonuses, failed to tell Obama
Agence France-Presse
Published: Thursday March 19, 2009


WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Federal Reserve officials knew about the controversial AIG bonuses but did not tell Treasury or White House officials for months, the Washington Post reported Thursday.

The American International Group informed the Fed three months ago that it would pay 165 million dollars by March 15 to employees in their Financial Products unit, the Post reported, citing government and company officials.

The bonuses were doled out to the AIG division at the heart of the company's near collapse and whose intricate dealings with banks worldwide helped trigger the global financial crisis.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told the Post that he had not been aware of the size of the bonuses and the timing of the payments.

Rawstory (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fed_knew_of_AIG_bonuses_failed_0319.html)

Cry Havoc
03-20-2009, 12:03 PM
Truth is, these bonuses were a parting gift from the former administration...

Fed knew of AIG bonuses, failed to tell Obama
Agence France-Presse
Published: Thursday March 19, 2009



Rawstory (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fed_knew_of_AIG_bonuses_failed_0319.html)


They should all go to jail. Directly to jail. I would not feel sorry for them if someone drove by their collective houses and started riddling them with bullets. That kind of greed is what will destroy humanity -- not nuclear weapons.

Winehole23
03-20-2009, 12:33 PM
They should all go to jail. Directly to jail. I would not feel sorry for them if someone drove by their collective houses and started riddling them with bullets.Then again, intensive scrutiny of the sources can amplify rage.