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peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:13 AM
Which one would you consider to be the greatest American songwriter?

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:14 AM
Freddy Fender

Viva Las Espuelas
03-24-2009, 11:15 AM
hmmm. that's a tough one.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:15 AM
If you choose "Other", let me know who you consider to be the greatest American songwriter.

leemajors
03-24-2009, 11:16 AM
dylan, but waits is close.

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:16 AM
Jon Secada

englishspursfan
03-24-2009, 11:17 AM
dylan by a country mile.

BacktoBasics
03-24-2009, 11:17 AM
I didn't see a place to vote for Blossom's Dad.

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:19 AM
Right Said Fred

Spurminator
03-24-2009, 11:19 AM
Scott Stapp

Viva Las Espuelas
03-24-2009, 11:20 AM
hmm. the choices weren't up when i first posted. none of those were on my mind so i'll do Other.

SpursStalker
03-24-2009, 11:21 AM
Which one would you consider to be the greatest American songwriter?

None of the above

Viva Las Espuelas
03-24-2009, 11:21 AM
Scott Stapp
i read that they're doing a reunion tour. Dear Lord in Heaven, why?

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:24 AM
Should I have put Billy Joel up there?

Viva Las Espuelas
03-24-2009, 11:26 AM
Should I have put Billy Joel up there?
yes. possibly croce.

mrsmaalox
03-24-2009, 11:27 AM
Ever? Of all time? Then it's George Gershwin. In the pop era I like your choices but I would add Brian Wilson.

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:28 AM
Alan Thicke

batman2883
03-24-2009, 11:29 AM
Tupac shakur

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:30 AM
yes. possibly croce.

I was thinking about that. But, Croce died relatively young and his catalog isn't as extensive as the others I posted.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:30 AM
Ever? Of all time? Then it's George Gershwin. In the pop era I like your choices but I would add Brian Wilson.

Fuck!!!

I forgot about Brian Wilson.

Blake
03-24-2009, 11:32 AM
Neil Diamond.

Saving Silverman verifies this fact.

Blake
03-24-2009, 11:32 AM
Alan Thicke

hiim writing the songs he does is beyond bizarre

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:33 AM
Dan Fogelberg

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Joe Jonas

Spurminator
03-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Brian Wilson's best songs had lyrics written by someone else.

Musically, though, he's one of a kind.

Strike
03-24-2009, 11:35 AM
I think John Lennon should be in the discussion but out of that list I go with Waits.

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:36 AM
John Lennon isn't American stupid.

mrsmaalox
03-24-2009, 11:36 AM
Dan Fogelberg


Joe Jonas

Go ahead and say it, I know you're thinking it: Barry Manilow!

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:36 AM
I think John Lennon should be in the discussion but out of that list I go with Waits.

He wasn't American.

But, he's my all time favorite songwriter/musician.

Strike
03-24-2009, 11:38 AM
He wasn't American.

But, he's my all time favorite songwriter/musician.

Damn it, you're right. :bang Didn't cross my mind.

Like it says, I'm really tired.

IronMexican
03-24-2009, 11:41 AM
Souljah Boy

desflood
03-24-2009, 11:42 AM
Too bad the only choice is American. I'd pick Andrew Lloyd Webber myself.

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:43 AM
The guy that wrote the song for Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:44 AM
The guy that wrote the song for Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Which song?

mardigan
03-24-2009, 11:44 AM
Zappa

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 11:47 AM
Which song?

The one that plays during the end credits while Principle Rooney is on the bus and the dorky chick offers him a gummy bear.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:49 AM
The one that plays during the end credits while Principle Rooney is on the bus and the dorky chick offers him a gummy bear.

Doo-pow-pow . . . Ohhhhhhhhh, yeaaaaaa.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 11:50 AM
The one that plays during the end credits while Principle Rooney is on the bus and the dorky chick offers him a gummy bear.

Yello.

8Q7FFjUpVLg

Condemned 2 HelLA
03-24-2009, 11:52 AM
G.G. Allin.

LockBeard
03-24-2009, 12:12 PM
Eddie Vedder shoutout.

Kermit
03-24-2009, 12:22 PM
The addition of Bruce Springsteen might be good for your poll.

dirk4mvp
03-24-2009, 12:30 PM
axl rose and company. There's not many songs that equal the genius of Coma.

smeagol
03-24-2009, 12:38 PM
Freddie Mercury

John Lennon

Paul Mcartney

Robert Plant

Roger Hodgson

Peter Gabriel

Mick Jagger

stretch
03-24-2009, 12:39 PM
eminem

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 12:42 PM
Freddie Mercury

John Lennon

Paul Mcartney

Robert Plant

Roger Hodgson

Peter Gabriel

Mick Jagger

Great list of Americans you got there.

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 12:44 PM
Of the choices, I went with Tom Waits.

Wondered where the female representation was, though. Joni Mitchell, perhaps? Carole King? Even Fiona Apple? Doubt any of them would have gotten my vote over Waits, but there should be at least a few women in the discussion.

Eminem
03-24-2009, 12:46 PM
eminem


I'm not so great anymore.


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peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 12:48 PM
Freddie Mercury

John Lennon

Paul Mcartney

Robert Plant

Roger Hodgson

Peter Gabriel

Mick Jagger


Aaaaaaaaand, niether one of them are American.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 12:49 PM
Great list of Americans you got there.

:lol

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 12:50 PM
Of the choices, I went with Tom Waits.

Wondered where the female representation was, though. Joni Mitchell, perhaps? Carole King? Even Fiona Apple? Doubt any of them would have gotten my vote over Waits, but there should be at least a few women in the discussion.

Of all those, only Joni Mitchell has a catalog that can compete with the ones I listed.

leemajors
03-24-2009, 12:58 PM
Ever? Of all time? Then it's George Gershwin. In the pop era I like your choices but I would add Brian Wilson.

if you put in gershwin then ellington is in the discussion too.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 12:59 PM
if you put in gershwin then ellington is in the discussion too.

Irving Berlin.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 12:59 PM
But, neither one of those can match the guys already put up.

AlamoSpursFan
03-24-2009, 01:01 PM
Willy Braun.

And since everyone's throwing out non-Americans, Neil Peart.

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 01:03 PM
if you put in gershwin then ellington is in the discussion too.

And Irving Berlin.

That's largely why I forced myself to go with one of the four listed (though, I'm a huge Waits fan, so it wasn't that much of a force). Too many directions you can go with an "other" vote.

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 01:04 PM
But, neither one of those can match the guys already put up.

Isn't that for those of us voting to decide?

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 01:06 PM
And Irving Berlin.

Copy cat.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 01:06 PM
Isn't that for those of us voting to decide?

No.

Spurminator
03-24-2009, 01:08 PM
Shout out for Mark Knopfler

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 01:09 PM
Shout out for Mark Knopfler

Seconded.

Twisted_Dawg
03-24-2009, 01:14 PM
dylan by a country mile.


dylan, but waits is close.

No one even comes close to Dylan's writing.

Now for honorable mentioned, that no one has mentioned and a dark horse candidate........Chuck Berry.

How many rock bands have redone his many songs????

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 01:15 PM
Shout out for Mark Knopfler


Seconded.


Isn't he Australian, or something like that?

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 01:18 PM
Isn't he Australian, or something like that?

Scottish, now that you mention it.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 01:23 PM
Scottish, now that you mention it.

Fuck, I always thought he was Australian.

smeagol
03-24-2009, 01:47 PM
Aaaaaaaaand, niether one of them are American.

No shit :rolleyes

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 02:01 PM
Avril Lavigne

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:11 PM
Avril Lavigne

Canadian.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:11 PM
No shit :rolleyes

And you still listed them?

Pendejo.

Thunder Dan
03-24-2009, 02:12 PM
I vote Springsteen

MannyIsGod
03-24-2009, 02:13 PM
Scott Stapp

:lmao

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:14 PM
I vote Springsteen

"Hey, little girl . . . Is your daddy home? . . . Did he go and leave you all alone?"

MannyIsGod
03-24-2009, 02:14 PM
Listen to Dylan sing. That should tell you how good of a songwriter he was.

Neil Young should be on that list, btw.

I don't know who the greatest is. But I love Dylan and Young.

ChumpDumper
03-24-2009, 02:16 PM
I believe Young is Canadian.

So is Joni Mitchell.

Spurminator
03-24-2009, 02:18 PM
I had no idea Knopfler was not American.

Thunder Dan
03-24-2009, 02:18 PM
Friday night's pay night guys fresh out of work
Talking about the weekend scrubbing off the dirt
Some heading home to their families some looking to get hurt
Some going down to Stovell wearing trouble on their shirts

Working on the highway laying down the blacktop
Working on the highway all day long I don't stop
Working on the highway blasting through the bedrock
Working on the highway, working on the highway
I met her at a dance down at the union hall
She was standing with her brothers back up against the wall

tlongII
03-24-2009, 02:19 PM
I would say somebody from The Eagles or Steely Dan.

monosylab1k
03-24-2009, 02:19 PM
Billy Corgan

smeagol
03-24-2009, 02:23 PM
And you still listed them?

Pendejo.

I think they are damn good.

Much better than many that have been named in this thread.

Deal with it, enano.

Kermit
03-24-2009, 02:28 PM
I think they are damn good.

Much better than many that have been named in this thread.

Deal with it, enano.

And yet none of them are American born and bred, which would be the whole point of this poll. You could probably throw Woody Guthrie up their as well. Or Rodgers and Hammerstein.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:30 PM
I believe Young is Canadian.

So is Joni Mitchell.

I didn't know that about Joni.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:31 PM
I think they are damn good.

Much better than many that have been named in this thread.

Deal with it, enano.

Pendejo, the thread is about AMERICAN songwriters.

Pinche puto estupido.

Besides, who gives a shit what your Argentine Nazi loving ass considers to be good?

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:32 PM
And yet none of them are American born and bred, which would be the whole point of this poll. You could probably throw Woody Guthrie up their as well. Or Rodgers and Hammerstein.

I was thinking Woody Guthrie, but I think Dylan pretty much took his place.

Kermit
03-24-2009, 02:34 PM
I was thinking Woody Guthrie, but I think Dylan pretty much took his place.

Maybe, but on his influence alone (Dylan, Springsteen) he should get a mention. And where the fuck is Bruce? Simon gets a nod but not Springsteen?

Spurminator
03-24-2009, 02:37 PM
The list also needs a certain Loggins and/or Messina...

Spurminator
03-24-2009, 02:38 PM
Oh, we're missing a big one...

http://www.ugo.com/music/best-singers/images/entries/Stevie-Wonder.jpg


I hope he's not reading this thread, he'd be pissed.

monosylab1k
03-24-2009, 02:40 PM
Timbaland

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:40 PM
Maybe, but on his influence alone (Dylan, Springsteen) he should get a mention. And where the fuck is Bruce? Simon gets a nod but not Springsteen?

I know.

I missed a few guys.

I should have made the list longer.

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 02:42 PM
Oh, we're missing a big one...

http://www.ugo.com/music/best-singers/images/entries/Stevie-Wonder.jpg


I hope he's not reading this thread, he'd be pissed.


I know.

I missed a few guys.

I should have made the list longer.

Viva Las Espuelas
03-24-2009, 02:43 PM
hall and oates?

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 02:44 PM
Weird Al

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2009, 03:14 PM
Weird Al

:lmao

balli
03-24-2009, 04:13 PM
I'm not reading this whole thread, but THE correct answer is Bob Dylan. 64 albums... and at least 50 of em' are good. Nobody's even close to close.

Dr. Gonzo
03-24-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm not reading this whole thread, but THE correct answer is Bob Dylan. 64 albums... and at least 50 of em' are good. Nobody's even close to close.

Not even Bobby Brown?

monosylab1k
03-24-2009, 04:16 PM
Not even Bobby Brown?

anybody can write a convoluted folk tune and sing like a strangled goat....but I'd like to see Bob Dylan try to re-create Humpin' Around.

Kermit
03-24-2009, 04:17 PM
In that case, Luther Campbell should be a shoe-in.

Summers
03-24-2009, 04:27 PM
Honorable mention for James Taylor?

duncan228
03-24-2009, 04:31 PM
From the list, Dylan. I probably would have had a hard time between the two if Springsteen was on it.

balli
03-24-2009, 04:50 PM
I guess a lot of singers deserve honorable mention, but at the same time... and I might be screwing this up a bit, but IIRC:


Ladykillers throw dice on me, at breakneck speed, while imitators steal me blind.

balli
03-24-2009, 04:50 PM
I guess a lot of singers deserve honorable mention, but at the same time... and I might be screwing this up a bit, but IIRC:


Ladykillers throw dice on me, at breakneck speed, while imitators steal me blind.

desflood
03-24-2009, 04:53 PM
Weird Al
8JVEUuFRuN0

whottt
03-24-2009, 05:22 PM
I probably go with 1. Other. 2. Dylan off your list...but it's a really shitty list.

It's totally stilted towards Rock and Folk Music...but it doesn't even include the modern guy who stands only behind Dylan in terms of prolificity, hits, and having his songs recorded by other artists...

Prince.

..almost totally left out the guys that invented Rock and Roll...the guys that were writing songs that Dylan was listening to...


Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller.


You also left out Cindy Walker.

In addition to Leiber and Stoller and Cindy Walker...

Cole Porter
Richard Rodgers & Lorenz Hart

Buddy Holly(he's the guy the Beatles were emulating).

Oh yeah...Kris Kristofferson too.

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 08:03 PM
I believe Young is Canadian.

So is Joni Mitchell.

D'oh!


I had no idea Knopfler was not American.

I actually did know that, but had completely forgotten. I always associate both him and Dire Straits with having a very American sound.

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 08:04 PM
Oh, we're missing a big one...

http://www.ugo.com/music/best-singers/images/entries/Stevie-Wonder.jpg


I hope he's not reading this thread, he'd be pissed.

This list is both racist and sexist.

The Reckoning
03-24-2009, 08:04 PM
kris kristofferson and john fogerty since neil is canadian (north american?)

mookie2001
03-24-2009, 08:10 PM
Y is canadian

townes van zandt

roky erickson- because he brought the devil shit

mrsmaalox
03-24-2009, 08:29 PM
I would say somebody from The Eagles or Steely Dan. That would be Donald Fagen---my personal choice for the greatest American anything in music!

chode_regulator
03-24-2009, 11:08 PM
Of the choices, I went with Tom Waits.

Wondered where the female representation was, though. Joni Mitchell, perhaps? Carole King? Even Fiona Apple? Doubt any of them would have gotten my vote over Waits, but there should be at least a few women in the discussion.

Why? You just admitted that none of them are as good as the ones originally listed and that there have been several other males that oculd have made the list.

chode_regulator
03-24-2009, 11:18 PM
Y is canadian

townes van zandt

roky erickson- because he brought the devil shit

Townes is the shit. I know it's a cover but "dead flowers" is awesome.

btw don't forget about lightnin hopkins


oh yeah based off that list, Dylan

CuckingFunt
03-24-2009, 11:23 PM
Why? You just admitted that none of them are as good as the ones originally listed and that there have been several other males that oculd have made the list.

I said that none of them would have gotten my vote over Tom Waits, which isn't the same as suggesting that they're not as good.

Vinnie_Johnson
03-24-2009, 11:32 PM
If you choose "Other", let me know who you consider to be the greatest American songwriter.

Cash

Dr. Gonzo
03-25-2009, 12:01 AM
Cheech Marin

Condemned 2 HelLA
03-25-2009, 12:10 AM
Cash

I was wondering when someone was going to bring up the Man in Black.
Nice call.

Vinnie_Johnson
03-25-2009, 12:14 AM
http://www.marshallphoto.com/images/collection/detail/1062.jpg

Nuff said

Dr. Gonzo
03-25-2009, 12:15 AM
Wow. He's a bad ass. He throws the finger.

Dr. Gonzo
03-25-2009, 12:15 AM
And he makes an angry face while doing it.

What a bad ass.