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Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 06:10 PM
Vote on it, and discuss. Thought it'd be an interesting deal

We've got the Golden State vs. Dallas series from '07, The New York Knicks vs. Miami series in '99, the Denver Nuggets vs. Seattle Supersonics series in 1994, or the Knicks beating the Pacers in '99.

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 06:16 PM
Now people..come on...the Dallas series wasn't that big of an upset..I shouldn't have even put that on here..I knew people would vote for that for the sheer hatred of the Mavs..Golden State had beaten Dallas and confused them all year..I kind of expected it.

sook
03-26-2009, 07:07 PM
oops i didn't see the mavs thing i voted for Nuggs with Deke that was crazy but a 67 win team losing to an 8 seed is probably one of the biggest upsets in sports, not counting the NFL because they don't have a 7 game series

IronMexican
03-26-2009, 07:08 PM
Giants over Patriots

sook
03-26-2009, 07:09 PM
Giants over Patriots

like i said, 1 GAME. In a 7 game series 99% of the time the better team will win

Jacob1983
03-26-2009, 07:10 PM
What about the 1995 Finals between the Rockets and Magic? I know that the Rockets were the defending champs but they were the 6th seed in the West and didn't have homecourt advantage in any of their playoff series that year. The Rockets didn't even win 50 games that year.

IronMexican
03-26-2009, 07:10 PM
like i said, 1 GAME. In a 7 game series 99% of the time the better team will win

We're only gonna score 17 points? hehehehehe, Ok.

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:11 PM
oops i didn't see the mavs thing i voted for Nuggs with Deke that was crazy but a 67 win team losing to an 8 seed is probably one of the biggest upsets in sports, not counting the NFL because they don't have a 7 game series
I don't get it. Golden State confused Dallas all season. I actually expected GS to win. The Nuggs beating Seattle, IMO is Definitely the biggest upset.

dirk4mvp
03-26-2009, 07:11 PM
like i said, 1 GAME. In a 7 game series 99% of the time the better team will win

Who made you the criteria judge?

dirk4mvp
03-26-2009, 07:11 PM
18-1

sook
03-26-2009, 07:12 PM
What about the 1995 Finals between the Rockets and Magic? I know that the Rockets were the defending champs but they were the 6th seed in the West and didn't have homecourt advantage in any of their playoff series that year. The Rockets didn't even win 50 games that year.

yea but they were THE DEFENDING CHAMPS :D. Thats never an upset.

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:13 PM
What about the 1995 Finals between the Rockets and Magic? I know that the Rockets were the defending champs but they were the 6th seed in the West and didn't have homecourt advantage in any of their playoff series that year. The Rockets didn't even win 50 games that year.
It was an upset, but not as big as the 4 on here..being all 8-1 seed defeats except for one. Even though I don't really think the Dallas/GS series was a huge upset. I just had to put it on here because it was an 8-1

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:13 PM
yea but they were THE DEFENDING CHAMPS :D. Thats never an upset.
:tu Never underestimate the heart of a champion.

sook
03-26-2009, 07:14 PM
I don't get it. Golden State confused Dallas all season. I actually expected GS to win. The Nuggs beating Seattle, IMO is Definitely the biggest upset.

Exactly, like i said the Better team won. I'm talking about head 2 head obviously.


The Superbowl is 1 game. Don't tell me the giants would have won in a 5 or 7 game series...

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:19 PM
Exactly, like i said the Better team won. I'm talking about head 2 head obviously.


The Superbowl is 1 game. Don't tell me the giants would have won in a 5 or 7 game series...
Never...I don't think the Giants would have won 2 games in a 7 game series..they just took the most important one.

JoeTait75
03-26-2009, 07:24 PM
I don't see how it could be anything other than Nuggets over Sonics in '94:

- Golden State was a horrible matchup for Dallas; they'd gone undefeated against the Mavs in the regular season and Avery was pretty much Don Nelson's bitch even before the series. My recollection is that most people figured Dallas was in for a dogfight going in. Besides, Golden State dominated that series. They should have won it in five, not six. How much of an upset can a series be when it's that one-sided?

- New York over Miami? The Knicks had beaten the Heat in the previous year's playoffs, beat them again in 2000, and only lost to them in '97 because Ewing, Houston and Ward were suspended for Game 6. The '99 Knicks were a very good team that was a little beat up in the lockout season. Certainly better than their place in the standings would indicate, and they proved as much by getting to the Finals. At any rate, there was very little difference talent-wise between New York and Miami. Two very, very evenly matched teams.

-Now, with Denver-Seattle, all you have to do is look at the disparity between the teams in the years immediately prior to and following 1994. Seattle had been to the WC Finals in '93, won 57 games in '95, and won '64 games, plus the WC Championship, in '96. The core of that Denver team never had a winning season besides '94, when they won 42 games. It was one of the dominant teams of the '90s losing to a team that can barely be called a flash-in-the-pan.

It's Nuggets-over-Sonics with a bullet AFAIC.

IronMexican
03-26-2009, 07:26 PM
Tyree!!!! HE CATCHES IT WITH HIS HELMET!!!!!!

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:28 PM
I don't see how it could be anything other than Nuggets over Sonics in '94:

- Golden State was a horrible matchup for Dallas; they'd gone undefeated against the Mavs in the regular season and Avery was pretty much Don Nelson's bitch even before the series. My recollection is that most people figured Dallas was in for a dogfight going in. Besides, Golden State dominated that series. They should have won it in five, not six. How much of an upset can a series be when it's that one-sided?

- New York over Miami? The Knicks had beaten the Heat in the previous year's playoffs, beat them again in 2000, and only lost to them in '97 because Ewing, Houston and Ward were suspended for Game 6. The '99 Knicks were a very good team that was a little beat up in the lockout season. Certainly better than their place in the standings would indicate, and they proved as much by getting to the Finals. At any rate, there was very little difference talent-wise between New York and Miami. Two very, very evenly matched teams.

-Now, with Denver-Seattle, all you have to do is look at the disparity between the teams in the years immediately prior to and following 1994. Seattle had been to the WC Finals in '93, won 57 games in '95, and won '64 games, plus the WC Championship, in '96. The core of that Denver team never had a winning season besides '94, when they won 42 games. It was one of the dominant teams of the '90s losing to a team that can barely be called a flash-in-the-pan.

It's Nuggets-over-Sonics with a bullet AFAIC.
:tu :tu :tu Hell yeah..that's what I've been trying to say. It was David vs. Goliath..and Denver had one hell of a slingshot in that series.

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:29 PM
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Point blank period

dirk4mvp
03-26-2009, 07:31 PM
Didn't the Warriors go 17-1 when every one got healthy at the end of the season?

JoeTait75
03-26-2009, 07:33 PM
Seattle fell apart psychologically in that series. They expected Denver to roll over in three straight games and when that didn't happen, they didn't know how to handle it. You could see in Game 5 how tight the Sonics were. They were playing not to lose at that point.

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:37 PM
Seattle fell apart psychologically in that series. They expected Denver to roll over in three straight games and when that didn't happen, they didn't know how to handle it. You could see in Game 5 how tight the Sonics were. They were playing not to lose at that point.
Exactly...To be a one seed, and one game away from a sweep, and let it fall and lose to an 8th seed, even after getting back into it in the final game and taking it to OT..it's huge.

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 07:37 PM
Didn't the Warriors go 17-1 when every one got healthy at the end of the season?
Something like that...that team was a team on a roll...

JoeTait75
03-26-2009, 07:42 PM
I'd put the entire 1981 Western Conference Playoffs on the list. All five series were won by the lower seeds; all five saw the lower seeds clinch on the road, and the WC Finals that year were between two teams with losing records- the Kansas City Kings (40-42) and the Rockets (40-42).

Brazil
03-26-2009, 08:08 PM
6XGt25SRmdg
Point blank period


Dikembe was a beast at that time !

pauls931
03-26-2009, 10:42 PM
you can tell there's a lot of young folks here. The seattle nuggets series was unreal and the nuggets were not a underachieving team masquerading as an 8th seed like the warriors. They were a determined 8th seed and seattle was a contender.

BUMP
03-26-2009, 11:05 PM
Something like that...that team was a team on a roll...

Phoenix W 124 - 119 34-39
Sun 1 Memphis W 122 - 117 35-39
Wed 4 @ Houston W 110 - 99 36-39
Fri 6 @ Memphis W 116 - 104 37-39
Sat 7 @ San Antonio L 99 - 112 37-40
Mon 9 Utah W 126 - 102 38-40
Fri 13 @ Sacramento W 125 - 108 39-40
Sun 15 Minnesota W 121 - 108 40-40
Tue 17 Dallas W 111 - 82 41-40
Wed 18 @ Portland W 120-98 42-40

they went 15-5 in the last 20 and 8-1 in these last 9. this wasnt an ordinary 8the seed. look at the scores of the games

Spursfan092120
03-26-2009, 11:06 PM
Phoenix W 124 - 119 34-39
Sun 1 Memphis W 122 - 117 35-39
Wed 4 @ Houston W 110 - 99 36-39
Fri 6 @ Memphis W 116 - 104 37-39
Sat 7 @ San Antonio L 99 - 112 37-40
Mon 9 Utah W 126 - 102 38-40
Fri 13 @ Sacramento W 125 - 108 39-40
Sun 15 Minnesota W 121 - 108 40-40
Tue 17 Dallas W 111 - 82 41-40
Wed 18 @ Portland W 120-98 42-40

they went 15-5 in the last 20 and 8-1 in these last 9. this wasnt an ordinary 8the seed. look at the scores of the games
:tu agreed.

BUMP
03-26-2009, 11:10 PM
yeah im kinda tired of people saying "NO EXCUSES you were a 1 seed you should win that series every time." sure we went 67-15, but went 0-3 against the only team that mattered at the time including two blowouts

z0sa
03-26-2009, 11:47 PM
yeah im kinda tired of people saying "NO EXCUSES you were a 1 seed you should win that series every time." sure we went 67-15, but went 0-3 against the only team that mattered at the time including two blowouts

man its pathetic how you've gone as far as to lie to yourself in public. Mavericks should have won that series in 6.

monosylab1k
03-26-2009, 11:49 PM
We're only gonna score 17 points? hehehehehe, Ok.

Hey let's use our first round pick on a kicker!

monosylab1k
03-26-2009, 11:53 PM
Hey let's give our head coach to another team and keep using the same playbook! It's not like we'll see him in the Super Bowl or anything!

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BUMP
03-26-2009, 11:53 PM
man its pathetic how you've gone as far as to lie to yourself in public. Mavericks should have won that series in 6.

so going 0-3 vs them in the season makes us the favorites in the series?

we didnt go 67-15 vs Golden State that year. FYI

JoeTait75
03-26-2009, 11:58 PM
man its pathetic how you've gone as far as to lie to yourself in public. Mavericks should have won that series in 6.

We were watching a different series. Dallas was on its heels from the get. Play that series ten times, Golden State wins the majority IMO.

BUMP
03-27-2009, 12:00 AM
We were watching a different series. Dallas was on its heels from the get. Play that series ten times, Golden State wins the majority IMO.

i think part of the problem is that Dallas was excpecting a different GS team in the playoffs just because they were an 8th seed, rather than the one that finished red hot and once they quickly figured out this was the same GS team that gave them nightmares all season, they panicked a little bit thinking that they absolutely could not lose to an 8th seed. if it was a 4th/5th seed matchup i think Dallas wouldn't of played as tense but they still wouldve lost IMO

JoeTait75
03-27-2009, 12:04 AM
i think part of the problem is that Dallas was excpecting a different GS team in the playoffs just because they were an 8th seed, rather than the one that finished red hot and once they quickly figured out this was the same GS team that gave them nightmares all season, they panicked a little bit thinking that they absolutely could not lose to an 8th seed. if it was a 4th/5th seed matchup i think Dallas wouldn't of played as tense but they still wouldve lost IMO

Avery panicked before Game One. That was the biggest problem from where I was standing.

dirk4mvp
03-27-2009, 12:06 AM
No team with Devan George starting at center is expected to win a playoff series.

BUMP
03-27-2009, 12:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVJR6RBEdkI&feature=PlayList&p=B827FC381AF2E6A9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=27

baseline bum
03-27-2009, 12:22 AM
Every year, we hear how the 8-seed isn't a typical 8-seed. I remember hearing everyone saying that about Denver in 05. Sacramento in 06. GS in 07. Atlanta in '08... Dallas' loss most certainly was an enormous choke. They locked up the best record in the league and got their top players tons of rest, going against a Warriors team that was in a huge dogfight to make it. The Mavericks should have mopped the floor with them with all the rest they got, similar to what the Lakers did to the Spurs last year, but they instead shit themselves in every game but the second of the series. They came within a couple of minutes of dropping that shit 4-1, and were slaughtered in games 1,3, and 6, and came a gimmick defense and a Dirk hot-streak from being slaughtered in game 5. Maybe you could make a decent argument for the Mavs if they had blown a 5-game series like you could for the Lakers blowing the 3-gamer in 81 to Houston, but that was a full series and the team was healthy on top of everything. GS over Dallas is easily the biggest upset in that list.

Lakers999
03-27-2009, 12:30 AM
Four Upsets


8. New york Knicks beating 1. Miami Heat prolly ranks up there


The lakers losing game 7 on their home floor to the Boston Celtics by a bucket in the 69 finals

the Lakers losing to Pistons in 2004 is a huge upset

The PHX suns losing to the SA SPurs to crooked refs in the WCF must a major heartbreak for zona fans

baseline bum
03-27-2009, 12:30 AM
What about the 1995 Finals between the Rockets and Magic? I know that the Rockets were the defending champs but they were the 6th seed in the West and didn't have homecourt advantage in any of their playoff series that year. The Rockets didn't even win 50 games that year.

No way that was an upset. Houston's record was bad because they were resting their players a lot of the season. All three of Houston's opponents in the WC playoffs were better than Orlando; they beat a 60-22 Jazz team in the first round, a 59-23 Suns team in the second, and a 62-20 Spurs team in the WCF. Safe to say no one was underestimating them against a 57-25 Magic team making its first playoff run.

Lakers999
03-27-2009, 12:31 AM
Pretty much any time the lakers doesnt win is an upset

baseline bum
03-27-2009, 12:32 AM
Four Upsets


8. New york Knicks beating 1. Miami Heat prolly ranks up there


The lakers losing game 7 on their home floor to the Boston Celtics by a bucket in the 69 finals

the Lakers losing to Pistons in 2004 is a huge upset

The PHX suns losing to the SA SPurs to crooked refs in the WCF must a major heartbreak for zona fans

Laker fan has no right to ever complain about crooked refs after game 7 of the 2000 WCF and game 6 of the 02 WCF... or game 7 of the 88 Finals.

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 05:40 AM
I don't get it. Golden State confused Dallas all season. I actually expected GS to win. The Nuggs beating Seattle, IMO is Definitely the biggest upset.

Exactly. That wasn't an upset. Of course, it's weird if the 8th seed wins against the 1st seed, but we played 0-3 against them during the season. 15 losses in overall and 3 alone against one team? To call it an upset is definitely the wrong term.

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 05:46 AM
Didn't the Warriors go 17-1 when every one got healthy at the end of the season?

Yes. I think the Clips had an advantage of 8-9 wins against them, but they couldn't close it. Well, it's also Avery's fault. We had problems against them all season, but the second last game of the season, he should have tried to beat them with our best team, not with our bench. Yes, our first squad couldn't make it in the first two games against them, but still. Look at this and you see why Avery was a fool: Game log (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200704170GSW.html). During the playoffs Nellie schooled Avery in a way that you would think even Isiah Thomas could have made it better...

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 05:49 AM
We were watching a different series. Dallas was on its heels from the get. Play that series ten times, Golden State wins the majority IMO.

I agree.

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 05:52 AM
Every year, we hear how the 8-seed isn't a typical 8-seed. I remember hearing everyone saying that about Denver in 05. Sacramento in 06. GS in 07. Atlanta in '08... Dallas' loss most certainly was an enormous choke. They locked up the best record in the league and got their top players tons of rest, going against a Warriors team that was in a huge dogfight to make it. The Mavericks should have mopped the floor with them with all the rest they got, similar to what the Lakers did to the Spurs last year, but they instead shit themselves in every game but the second of the series. They came within a couple of minutes of dropping that shit 4-1, and were slaughtered in games 1,3, and 6, and came a gimmick defense and a Dirk hot-streak from being slaughtered in game 5. Maybe you could make a decent argument for the Mavs if they had blown a 5-game series like you could for the Lakers blowing the 3-gamer in 81 to Houston, but that was a full series and the team was healthy on top of everything. GS over Dallas is easily the biggest upset in that list.

Epic fail. It seems you haven't even read the whole thread. Probably you're just sticking to your opinion because you only want to bash Dallas, nothing else. Well, nothing new for a Spurs fan. IMO the biggest upset was Denver-Seattle in '94.

SAtown
03-27-2009, 07:39 AM
NY vs Indiana was the 1999 ECF, not second round

Extra Stout
03-27-2009, 07:43 AM
The Warriors really were a great, great team in 2007. It's not as though they beat the Mavs and then promptly lost in 5 games to a just-OK team like the Jazz.

fyatuk
03-27-2009, 07:44 AM
I don't get it. Golden State confused Dallas all season. I actually expected GS to win. The Nuggs beating Seattle, IMO is Definitely the biggest upset.

I agree with you. I thought Dallas beating Golden State would have been the upset, even though the seeds meant Dallas should have creamed them. A lot of people thought Golden State would win, or at least make it a very challenging series because they just owned the Mavs.

I can't recall anyone thinking the Nuggets would even be a challenge for the Sonics, and it certainly shocked the heck out of me.

layupdrill
03-27-2009, 08:12 AM
The Sonic Meltdown will always be etched in my mind..because it was the first time a 8 beat a 1, and I remember watching every single game, and thinking the Sonics were gonna sweep this team, and wind up in the finals against the Magic.

DeadlyDynasty
03-27-2009, 08:37 AM
Laker fan has no right to ever complain about crooked refs after game 7 of the 2000 WCF and game 6 of the 02 WCF... or game 7 of the 88 Finals.

Game 7 of the 2000 WCF? wtf are you talking about...Portland bricked all their shot in the 4th and sheed bricked 2 huge ft's. Spurs fans have no right to complain about crooked refs ever again because of TIM FUCKING DONAGHY

DeadlyDynasty
03-27-2009, 08:39 AM
I might be wrong with this, but after Denver came back down 0-2 to beat the Sonics, didn't they also fall down 0-3 to Utah in the next round only to tie it up (but ultimately lost game 7)? I'll have to check that, but imagine how crazy that woulda been

Leetonidas
03-27-2009, 08:41 AM
I voted for Dallas vs. Golden State, though I know that the Nuggets beating the Sonics was probably a much bigger feat, the shame Dallas faced was just awful after that series.

I would say the 2006 NBA Finals should be up there too. Who the fuck really believed the Heat were going to win?

DeadlyDynasty
03-27-2009, 08:43 AM
I voted for Dallas vs. Golden State, though I know that the Nuggets beating the Sonics was probably a much bigger feat, the shame Dallas faced was just awful after that series.

I would say the 2006 NBA Finals should be up there too. Who the fuck really believed the Heat were going to win?

I honestly did

ambchang
03-27-2009, 08:44 AM
The Mavs vs. GS series upset has really been overblown. While a 67-15 record was absolutely amazing, the Mavs had most of the wins stacked earlier in the season. Avery Johnson pushed the team way too hard in the first half of the season, and the team peaked too soon. Fatigue set in, and other teams starting finding weaknesses in the Mavs.

Worse yet, they were matched up against the worse possible team, the Warriors. They lost all 3 games against them that year. Not only that, but other high octane, athletic teams have also possed problems to the Mavs that year.

Of the 15 losses:
3 against Warriors
2 against Phoenix
1 against the Wizards
1 against the Nuggets

In other words, almost half of the losses comes against athletic, quick, high scoring teams, when these teams made up far less than 1/2 of the Mavs games.

The Nuggets vs. Sonics in 94 though, was a little different. The Nuggets were 2-2 against the Sonics in the regular season, and the Sonics didn't have much of a pattern of losing to a certain kind of team. It was just Mutombo played way over his head, shut down Kemp, and Karl being embarrassingly outcoached by .... Issel.

Leetonidas
03-27-2009, 08:46 AM
If I remember correctly, didn't the Mavericks have a game towards the end of the year versus Golden State in which they sat some of their stars (Nowitzki at least I think) and they ended up losing to a GS team fighting to get into the 8th seed?

If so, that makes it even more hilarious. :lmao

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 09:26 AM
If I remember correctly, didn't the Mavericks have a game towards the end of the year versus Golden State in which they sat some of their stars (Nowitzki at least I think) and they ended up losing to a GS team fighting to get into the 8th seed?

If so, that makes it even more hilarious. :lmao

Yes, you're right. Generally, you shouldn't blame it too much on the players, blame it more on Avery. I still can't understand why Avery did that in the second last game. GSW would have been out and the Clips would have sealed their spot with a Dallas win. Stupid as hell. As I wrote a few posts earlier:

We had problems against them all season, but the second last game of the season, he should have tried to beat them with our best team, not with our bench. Yes, our first squad couldn't make it in the first two games against them, but still. Look at this and you see why Avery was a fool: Game log (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200704170GSW.html).
During the playoffs Nellie schooled Avery in a way that you would think even Isiah Thomas could have made it better...

During the playoffs Avery went all the time small ball with Nellie. Come on, how stupid is that??? Even Popovich got schooled by Nellie recently as he tried to go small ball with him.

Girasuck
03-27-2009, 09:30 AM
I might be wrong with this, but after Denver came back down 0-2 to beat the Sonics, didn't they also fall down 0-3 to Utah in the next round only to tie it up (but ultimately lost game 7)? I'll have to check that, but imagine how crazy that woulda been

You are correct. The series should've been a sweep though. Denver got some big time home cooking in game 4, and we totally fell apart late in the 4th quarter.

DPG21920
03-27-2009, 09:34 AM
yeah im kinda tired of people saying "NO EXCUSES you were a 1 seed you should win that series every time." sure we went 67-15, but went 0-3 against the only team that mattered at the time including two blowouts

Bump, in all fairness, regular season match-ups do not mean anything. For example, in 2007 the Spurs were swept by the cavaliers, and they were not a team posing as an 8th seed, they were a team that made it to the finals. Then the Spurs swept them.

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 09:38 AM
Bump, in all fairness, regular season match-ups do not mean anything. For example, in 2007 the Spurs were swept by the cavaliers, and they were not a team posing as an 8th seed, they were a team that made it to the finals. Then the Spurs swept them.

Okay, but it's all also a question how you were swept. Two of the losses Dallas took by GSW were massive blowouts (okay, the last with our bench playing the entire game; Avery you fool!). I don't know how close the games were you mentioned, but I don't think that the GSW-Dallas series was such a great upset as some people think. I remember that Bill Russel was the only one to mention shortly after the series that he wasn't surprised about the outcome due to the problems Dallas had all the season long with GSW.

DPG21920
03-27-2009, 09:42 AM
Okay, but it's all also a question how you were swept. Two of the losses Dallas took by GSW were massive blowouts (okay, the last with our bench playing the entire game; Avery you fool!). I don't know how close the games were you mentioned, but I don't think that the GSW-Dallas series was such a great upset as some people think. I remember that Bill Russel was the only one to mention shortly after the series that he wasn't surprised about the outcome due to the problems Dallas had all the season long with GSW.

Dallas was clearly the better team. They underachieved. Golden State was a terrible 8th seed to get, but the Mavs should have found a way.

Holmes_Fans
03-27-2009, 09:52 AM
like i said, 1 GAME. In a 7 game series 99% of the time the better team will win
Giants win 4/7 versus NE

Holmes_Fans
03-27-2009, 09:53 AM
Didn't the Warriors go 17-1 when every one got healthy at the end of the season?
10 straight to make the playoffs, and won the season series

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 10:01 AM
Dallas was clearly the better team. They underachieved. Golden State was a terrible 8th seed to get, but the Mavs should have found a way.

Go and tell it Avery. Sorry to say that, but he was dumb as f*** during the series. Nellie schooled him perfectly.

DPG21920
03-27-2009, 10:27 AM
Go and tell it Avery. Sorry to say that, but he was dumb as f*** during the series. Nellie schooled him perfectly.

So the players had nothing to do with it?

Sportstudi
03-27-2009, 10:31 AM
So the players had nothing to do with it?

They had. I didn't say that it was only Avery's fault, but mainly. Don't want to write it all again, just look up, I wrote it there.

DPG21920
03-27-2009, 10:33 AM
Sounds like excuses. The Mavs were the better team. Call it what you will (coaching, players...) but they were the better team.

robbie380
03-27-2009, 10:39 AM
Vote on it, and discuss. Thought it'd be an interesting deal

We've got the Golden State vs. Dallas series from '07, The New York Knicks vs. Miami series in '99, the Denver Nuggets vs. Seattle Supersonics series in 1994, or the Knicks beating the Pacers in '99.


nba history...it only goes back 15 years:lol

Spursfan092120
03-27-2009, 11:59 AM
I honestly did
ditto

Spursfan092120
03-27-2009, 12:01 PM
nba history...it only goes back 15 years:lol
lol..I know it goes back farther...I went back further..just thought these were the biggest upsets, and I figured people would know these, and be able to discuss them with knowledge, as opposed to games with the Ft. Wayne Pistons or Minneapolis Lakers..lol

IronMexican
03-27-2009, 12:02 PM
I didn't think the Heat were going to get passed Chicago that year. It was pretty damn crazy that they actually won it all.

Spursfan092120
03-27-2009, 12:04 PM
A lot of people don't know about the Nugs Sonics matchup. Seattle was like the Bulls with Jordan and Denver was like this year's Phoenix Suns. No one even thought Denver would make the playoffs. They made it in at the last minute, and even went down 0-2 to Seattle. From the beginning, everyone was saying it would be a sweep. Denver proceeded to win 3 games in a row to win this series...it was insane..mindblowing.

baseline bum
03-27-2009, 12:06 PM
Epic fail. It seems you haven't even read the whole thread. Probably you're just sticking to your opinion because you only want to bash Dallas, nothing else. Well, nothing new for a Spurs fan. IMO the biggest upset was Denver-Seattle in '94.

No, epic fail was completing two of the biggest chokes in NBA history in back to back playoff series. Epic fail was getting ready to have the parade and dropping four in a row. Epic fail was Tony Romo fumbling the hold in Seattle. Epic fail was blowing the team up because Kidd and Jim Jackson were both tapping Toni Braxton. Epic fail is the definition of Dallas sports since the mid 90s.

z0sa
03-27-2009, 12:08 PM
No team with Devan George starting at center is expected to win a playoff series.

Spurs played Michael Finley at center in 06 to matchup with these same Mavericks, and if not for a certain mental mistake, would have won ... you Mavfans saying it wasn't an upset have the brightest rose colored homer glasses on imaginable. It was most definitely a huge upset.

z0sa
03-27-2009, 12:12 PM
Epic fail. It seems you haven't even read the whole thread.

As if reading this whole thread filled with mavfan homers saying it wasn't ANY degree of upset and people blaming avery for matching up with GS would change an opinion on the matter - its common knowledge Dallas choked that series away.

Bandwagon Lakers Fan
03-27-2009, 12:15 PM
did i really just read that the 07 GS-Mavs series wasn't an upset?

are you all fucked in the head?

Not that it really matters, spurstalk posters overwhelmingly voted for that as the biggest upset of the 4 choices. While that may not be true, says a lot for you idiotic fanboys claiming it wasn't an upset at all :lmao

dirk4mvp
03-27-2009, 12:23 PM
:lol


Yeah I think they are....hmm a 48 win team beating a 65 win team with homecourt advantage in 6 games...Nah that's not an epic upset...
It's Wilt Bynum not Kareem Abdul JaBynum HAHA!:lol

Oh look, he made an internet friend!

Red Hawk #21
03-27-2009, 07:27 PM
There will be another Upset this year, an upset that will be greater than any of these in the Poll. Phoenix Suns will defeat the Lakers in 7 games in the 1st round.

Spursfan092120
03-27-2009, 09:45 PM
did i really just read that the 07 GS-Mavs series wasn't an upset?

are you all fucked in the head?

Not that it really matters, spurstalk posters overwhelmingly voted for that as the biggest upset of the 4 choices. While that may not be true, says a lot for you idiotic fanboys claiming it wasn't an upset at all :lmao
Just saying...the Warriors beat Dallas all 3 times they played that season, and had won 9 out of 10 going into the playoffs. They were the hottest team going into the playoffs. All the commentators were saying before the series that Dallas better watch out, because Golden State was hot.

Thomas82
03-27-2009, 09:49 PM
oops i didn't see the mavs thing i voted for Nuggs with Deke that was crazy but a 67 win team losing to an 8 seed is probably one of the biggest upsets in sports, not counting the NFL because they don't have a 7 game series

I voted for that one too, and I remember joking with everybody and saying that Denver would mess around and go to the Finals.

baseline bum
03-27-2009, 11:12 PM
Just saying...the Warriors beat Dallas all 3 times they played that season, and had won 9 out of 10 going into the playoffs. They were the hottest team going into the playoffs. All the commentators were saying before the series that Dallas better watch out, because Golden State was hot.

Regular season means shit. The Suns owned the Spurs in the 02-03 regular season and the Spurs sacked up and won the series. Are you going to say with a straight face the Spurs winning that series over Marbury was an upset, because Phoenix won 3 out of 4 and the Spurs needed OT for the one win they got? Besides, Dallas got blown out when Golden State's best player was a one legged gimp in game 6.

Spursfan092120
03-27-2009, 11:33 PM
Regular season means shit. The Suns owned the Spurs in the 02-03 regular season and the Spurs sacked up and won the series. Are you going to say with a straight face the Spurs winning that series over Marbury was an upset, because Phoenix won 3 out of 4 and the Spurs needed OT for the one win they got? Besides, Dallas got blown out when Golden State's best player was a one legged gimp in game 6.
I know..I know..but the Warriors run and gun style was exactly what Dallas had trouble with all year, and GS was the best at it. They peaked at the right time. You can't tell me that peaking at the end of the season doesn't mean anything...that's bs.

DeadlyDynasty
03-27-2009, 11:59 PM
I know..I know..but the Warriors run and gun style was exactly what Dallas had trouble with all year, and GS was the best at it. They peaked at the right time. You can't tell me that peaking at the end of the season doesn't mean anything...that's bs.
agreed

baseline bum
03-28-2009, 12:41 AM
I know..I know..but the Warriors run and gun style was exactly what Dallas had trouble with all year, and GS was the best at it. They peaked at the right time. You can't tell me that peaking at the end of the season doesn't mean anything...that's bs.

How much difference did the Spurs massive win-streak to close 03-04 mean when they got to LA? The 2007 Mavericks were chokers who got beaten by a team that was ripped to shreds the next round by a better running team.

What Dallas had trouble with was finding their balls in games that mattered. The only big game that team ever seemed to win (without a gift-wrap from the refs) in any pressure situation was game 7 in San Antonio, and even then they blew a 20-point lead and came an idiotic foul from Ginobili from blowing that 3-1 series lead. You might have a leg to stand on had they not shit themselves in Miami, but those two series combined show Dallas flat-out could not deliver in big moments.

SpursDynasty
03-28-2009, 02:09 AM
The Warriors over Dallas wasn't an upset. Dallas won 67, but that's just because they made their shots. The playoffs are a different story.

Findog
03-28-2009, 02:43 AM
Now people..come on...the Dallas series wasn't that big of an upset..I shouldn't have even put that on here..I knew people would vote for that for the sheer hatred of the Mavs..Golden State had beaten Dallas and confused them all year..I kind of expected it.

I picked Dallas to win that series in 6 or 7 games...but you're right, the final result was not exactly a shock to anybody that had paid attention to the recent history of those two teams. The Warriors had owned them in the regular season the year before.

I remember trying to resolve the cognitive dissonance of rooting for a 67-win team that had locked up the #1 seed, and yet I was refreshing the gamecast on ESPN every night to see who would get the last playoff spot between the Clippers and the Warriors. When the Warriors clinched it, I felt this sense of dread. After the very first game when the Mavs game away home court, I kinda knew then what was going to happen.

LEONARD
03-28-2009, 09:01 AM
The Warriors over Dallas wasn't an upset. Dallas won 67, but that's just because they made their shots. The playoffs are a different story.

You're dumb

ambchang
04-01-2009, 04:44 PM
Gotta love how black and white some people are.
Saying that the Nuggets/Sonics history is the bigger upset <> Warriors/Mavs was not an upset. Just that nobody saw Nuggets winning against the Sonics that year, and actually, a very minor few actually saw the Warriors beating the Mavs that year.

NuMoney
04-01-2009, 09:35 PM
Lol at dallas mavericks

NuMoney
04-01-2009, 09:36 PM
cavs 2008-2009 nba champions