I'm calling it right now....Bynum will not return this season [Archive]

Rogue

03-28-2009, 09:55 AM

No Bynum = No Championship
exactly, without bynum the lakers' paint only consists of a couple of soft asses who are gonna be blown out by the real paint players like shaq, even those average centers like perkins will be unresovable problems to phil.

even if bynum happens to recover before the playoffs take place, it will still be a very tough job to win the championship, maybe the lakers won't even get through the first round. Erick Dampier has been saving his energy for nearly a season and he hopefully will explode in the postseason, just like what duncan will do. Our team's only x-factor is just Erick Dampier, if dampier plays really like "the second best center in the west" then our team will have a big chance to wipe out the lakers by blowing their soft asses out of the paint. to some degree, the result of our first round vs. lakers will be determined by the control of the paint. both of the two teams have great scorers and exellent shooters, they only difference is our boys in blue have a real center who is bound to play the playoffs while the lakers can't make sure if their only center will play there or not. If Bynum comes back in time and plays at normal level then dampier is gonna be frustrated by him, otherwise Pau Gasol will face great troubles made by dampier.

Spursmania

03-28-2009, 10:12 AM

That's what my gut is telling me. If he does come back, I'll own up and bump this thread.

And no this is not an anti-jinx.

Come on! The guy had a torn meniscus. He's already been out quite sometime. He's already on a treadmill- the guy is extremely young and he has tons of time to be back for the 1st, 2nd and the WCF round. So, I definitely bet he's back, no doubt.

Indazone

03-28-2009, 10:18 AM

Bynum's 80 million dollars looking like a bad investment right now.

IronMexican

03-28-2009, 10:38 AM

Hope he comes back.

TheMACHINE

03-28-2009, 10:39 AM

lol...First it was Bynums overated...all of a sudden its "no Bynum= No championship".

DUNCANownsKOBE2

03-28-2009, 11:07 AM

lol...First it was Bynums overated...all of a sudden its "no Bynum= No championship".

What's so absurd about that?

Saying someone is overrated is completely different than saying someone is bad........Kevin Garnett is one of the most overrated players in the NBA but it's safe to say for Boston No KG = no championship.

TheMACHINE

03-28-2009, 11:15 AM

What's so absurd about that?

Saying someone is overrated is completely different than saying someone is bad........Kevin Garnett is one of the most overrated players in the NBA but it's safe to say for Boston No KG = no championship.

so Bynum is like KG

21_Blessings

03-28-2009, 11:21 AM

Bynum's 80 million dollars looking like a bad investment right now.

Bynum's 21, so not really.

He's coming back for the playoffs and if he performs there, no one is going to give a shit about the games missed in regular season.

lil_penny

03-28-2009, 11:27 AM

so Bynum is like KG

No but he's still a big part of your defense.. look at him as the gate keeper to your basket. Lakers down low without him have been giving up a lot of easy lay ins and such that when he's playing usually doesn't happen. With a healthy bynum in the middle the lakers are going to be tough as hell for any team, not like they aren't already but he's a big plus.

Allanon

03-28-2009, 11:45 AM

ginobili's bald spot

03-28-2009, 11:47 AM

No Bynum = No Championship

Portland = No Championship period

And Bynum will be back. We are still in the original timetable the Lakers gave.

DeadlyDynasty

03-28-2009, 12:07 PM

I doubt Drew will be back either, and said as much in a thread yesterday. Still, even w/o Drew no team has beaten the Lakers more than once (accept Magic, who beat us with him)--so good luck winning 4 out of 7 times.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

03-28-2009, 12:17 PM

so Bynum is like KG

No, I never said that, stop arguing like you have the critical thinking ability of a 6 year old. My point was that even though a lot of KG's game is overrated, the team he's on isn't a contender without him.

I personally don't agree with "no Bynum = no championship", I don't think they'd have a big shot at winning without Bynum but they'd have a shot. Even though I think he's overrated, his presence still obviously makes LA better.

Ghazi

03-28-2009, 12:21 PM

Mavs > Lakers in 6

TheMACHINE

03-28-2009, 12:28 PM

No, I never said that, stop arguing like you have the critical thinking ability of a 6 year old. My point was that even though a lot of KG's game is overrated, the team he's on isn't a contender without him.

I personally don't agree with "no Bynum = no championship", I don't think they'd have a big shot at winning without Bynum but they'd have a shot. Even though I think he's overrated, his presence still obviously makes LA better.

OK.. Bynum is overrated. Yet, with a team with Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol and a HOF coach in Jackson, all of a sudden we cant get a ring without him. I dont know how a guy could be so overrated if that "kind" of team needs him so much.

Ghazi

03-28-2009, 12:29 PM

Bynum's actually underrated by non-Lakers fans.

IronMexican

03-28-2009, 12:31 PM

I rate him at about what he is. A 14/9 guy who makes a difference on D.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

03-28-2009, 12:49 PM

OK.. Bynum is overrated. Yet, with a team with Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol and a HOF coach in Jackson, all of a sudden we cant get a ring without him. I dont know how a guy could be so overrated if that "kind" of team needs him so much.

Whether or not someone says LA can't get a ring w/o Bynum, the fact is they can. They made the finals w/o him last year, and have won a game in Boston, Cleveland, and San Antonio without him. I just said they can in my previous post so idk why you responded to my post as if I said they couldn't win it all w/o him.

TheMACHINE

03-28-2009, 01:27 PM

Whether or not someone says LA can't get a ring w/o Bynum, the fact is they can. They made the finals w/o him last year, and have won a game in Boston, Cleveland, and San Antonio without him. I just said they can in my previous post so idk why you responded to my post as if I said they couldn't win it all w/o him.

cuz my original point was to Tlong...and you came and said your piece.

lefty

03-28-2009, 01:46 PM

That's what my gut is telling me. If he does come back, I'll own up and bump this thread.

And no this is not an anti-jinx.

Bad news for Spurs

Gasol at C and Lamar at PF = matchup problems for us

21_Blessings

03-28-2009, 01:54 PM

Bad news for Spurs

Gasol at C and Lamar at PF = matchup problems for us

Bynum in the lineup doesn't solve your match up problem. Only makes it worse considering Bynum guards Duncan as good as anybody in the league.

Medvedenko

03-28-2009, 03:26 PM

Dumb thread DrHouse....really who cares and if you "bump" what does it matter. They're are more pressing threads like Kobe > Jordan....keep on point brother :)

Baseline

03-28-2009, 03:44 PM

Even without Bynum, the Lakers have already beaten the Cavs in Cleveland, the Spurs in San Antonio and the Celtics in Boston.

Not having Bynum just means the Playoffs/Finals will be more entertaining, but the engravers have already finished engraving the LOB.

The Spurs squad the Lakers beat in San Antonio was without Ginobili, so if you still want to count it, go right ahead.

We know how much difference a healthy Ginobili makes. If you're still unclear, he'll be glad to show you in the WCF.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

03-28-2009, 03:48 PM

cuz my original point was to Tlong...and you came and said your piece.

And I'm saying Tlong's analysis "No Bynum = No championship" is completely wrong :lol

Austin_Toros

03-28-2009, 03:49 PM

if he plays before the playoffs it will be very small minutes. but lakers would be aiming at saving him come finals.

TheMACHINE

03-28-2009, 04:06 PM

And I'm saying Tlong's analysis "No Bynum = No championship" is completely wrong :lol

:p:

j.dizzle

03-28-2009, 04:27 PM

Why do ppl start these dumbass threads? This is NOT the same type of injury as least season. He didnt need surgery so you already know he's gonna be back at some point. He's already practicing & running on the court. Last year they kept waiting to see if it would heal on its own & it didnt so he needed to get surgery. Only reason Phil says he wont ba back for a while is because he hates ppl bugging him & asking questions. NO news = good news. He"s chillin in LA with Kareem the Dream workin on the Post moves :toast

Allanon

03-28-2009, 04:34 PM

The Spurs squad the Lakers beat in San Antonio was without Ginobili, so if you still want to count it, go right ahead.

We know how much difference a healthy Ginobili makes. If you're still unclear, he'll be glad to show you in the WCF.

Same excuse as last year's WCF.

At some point, a team goes with the team they have on the floor and stops making excuses for losses.

The Lakers didn't lose to the Celtics last year because of the refs or because Bynum was missing.

The Lakers lost because they couldn't beat the better team...period.

Spursmania

03-28-2009, 05:05 PM

Same excuse as last year's WCF.

At some point, a team goes with the team they have on the floor and stops making excuses for losses.

The Lakers didn't lose to the Celtics last year because of the refs or because Bynum was missing.

The Lakers lost because they couldn't beat the better team...period.

Yes, we were outmatched and we lost against the Lakers. No excuses. However, I would be willing to bet a lot more money on the Spurs this year if we have our line-up now as is. If Duncan, gets worse we're out. If Manu gets hurt again, we're out. I'm not making excuses, that's how the ball bounces. I'm just saying that objectively analyzing the match-ups, a healthy Manu will make all the difference in the world. And, Bynum will be back, believe me. In the end, we all know when two teams are as good as LA and the Spurs it will come down to health, coaching and cajones (balls).

Allanon

03-28-2009, 05:18 PM

Yes, we were outmatched and we lost against the Lakers. No excuses. However, I would be willing to bet a lot more money on the Spurs this year if we have our line-up now as is. If Duncan, gets worse we're out. If Manu gets hurt again, we're out. I'm not making excuses, that's how the ball bounces. I'm just saying that objectively analyzing the match-ups, a healthy Manu will make all the difference in the world. And, Bynum will be back, believe me. In the end, we all know when two teams are as good as LA and the Spurs it will come down to health, coaching and cajones (balls).

I agree with this and cajones are vital to winning any kind of series no matter the talent.

I just don't like saying "We lost because xxxx player was missing". If it's Kobe or Duncan not playing, ok, I can understand excuses...but not the 2nd/3rd/4th/5th guys missing.

But yes, objectively analyzing match-ups Manu would make a huge difference, he just doesn't make a difference in games he didn't play.

Ghazi

03-28-2009, 05:22 PM

Spurs only won in 2003 because Dirk got hurt.

Spursmania

03-28-2009, 05:55 PM

Spurs only won in 2003 because Dirk got hurt.

Ghazi don't be an ass. I refuse to dignify that drivel with a lengthy response. I wonder what Dirk's excuse was for the choke in 2006? He wasn't hurt. Just forget it-don't even have to respond. I'm not even going there. No siree....:nope

DrHouse

03-28-2009, 06:59 PM

Lest we forget Manu was totally healthy in the earlier matchup between the Spurs and the Lakers this year. And the Spurs still got blown out.

layupdrill

03-28-2009, 09:36 PM

I think Bynum will be back by the 2nd round of the playoffs. They really dont need him until then.

sook

03-28-2009, 10:04 PM

that actually sucks for the rockets, they match up better with Bynum playing C so Yao won't have to guard pau

DrHouse

03-30-2009, 06:24 PM

While the Los Angeles Lakers battle through their longest road trip of the season, back in Los Angeles injured center Andrew Bynum nears a return.
Bynum partially tore his right MCL on January 31st in Memphis against the Grizzlies. The original timetable for recovery was said to be 8-12 weeks.
According to his website www.andrewbynum.com (http://w2.hidemyass.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbmRyZXdieW51bS5jb20v), Bynum has progressed to the point where he is "playing 2 on 2 and 3 on 3, while waiting on the team to return."
Following standard recovery protocols, Bynum's next step towards recovery would be to test himself in a 5 on 5 scrimmage . . . typically the final step before a player is back on the active roster.
The Lakers are scheduled to play the Charlotte Bobcats and Milwaukee Bucks on back-to-back nights on Tuesday and Wednesday. Coach Phil Jackson wouldn't be likely to hold a full practice on Thursday.
The team's next home game is on Friday against the Houston Rockets, likely without Bynum. If, however, he can get in a full practice on Saturday, April 4th . . . perhaps the Lakers will be able to get him on the court against the Los Angeles Clippers on Sunday.
That assumes that Bynum's knee responds well to the increase in activity. A delay might take him to April 9th against the Denver Nuggets or even as late as the Memphis Grizzlies on the 12th.
The Lakers were able to lock up the top seed in the Western Conference without him but are eager to wield a complete roster for the coming postseason.

I may have to eat some crow pie soon...

j-money24

03-30-2009, 11:05 PM

cow pie is actually good..

LakeShow

03-30-2009, 11:15 PM

I may have to eat some crow pie soon...

You were serious?:wow I thought you were doing some kind of reverse jinx. :(

WTF is wrong with you lakers fans?

mytespurs

03-30-2009, 11:50 PM

Lest we forget Manu was totally healthy in the earlier matchup between the Spurs and the Lakers this year. And the Spurs still got blown out.

I don't think he was completely healthy.

21_Blessings

03-31-2009, 04:35 AM

Duncan's line on 1/14 when they played head to head
20 pts 9-19 shooting 10 rebs 8 assists 1 steal 2 blocks...oh yeah REAL good job...:wow

You do realize Duncan hit most of those shots on Gasol, right? Or don't you remember Phil benching Bynum in the 4th and Parker/Duncan going to town in the middle?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bynuman01&p2=duncati01

Timmy's CAREER FG% against Bynum is 46%. Including a 2-13 performance :lol and 10-23 that went to OT.

leg01as

04-10-2009, 02:50 AM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/81/218390185_5db6f899fc.jpg

Tmac&Luther

04-10-2009, 02:55 AM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/81/218390185_5db6f899fc.jpg

Umm....honestly..

I mean honestly you're going to make this post? Really?

Let me give you some advice, if I had a insanely injury prone center (which I do, so listen to what I'm telling you), I wouldn't be testing the fates and playing the "See...see, I told y'all so" card. Just like Manu, your "I told you so" dumbass post could blow up in your face and he could be out for the year, the the very next game.

Really you should delete your post and knock on wood pronto.

Oh BTW...epic first post. :rolleyes I mean this is the Iron Man of the NBA we're talking about.....good odds he stays healthy.

KSeal

04-10-2009, 05:51 AM

^ Somebody's jealous :) It's so nice to see the Lakers back at full strength. Drew looked amazing for his first game back. Now STAY healthy son.

Tmac&Luther

04-10-2009, 10:41 AM

^ Somebody's jealous :) It's so nice to see the Lakers back at full strength. Drew looked amazing for his first game back. Now STAY healthy son.

I'm not jealous, I just don't see the point in a "I told you so" post, because the kid came back before the season ended. Do you know how many people told us Yao couldn't stay healthy for a season? Do you see me bumping threads over it? No, because even I know the very next game out he could go down and it's the same thing with Bynum.......he's injury prone and I'm sure somebody will be bumping this thread the moment he does go down.

Allanon

04-10-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Allanon View Post
If you mean regular season, that's a possibility, but no way Bynum's missing Round 1.
My guess, Thursday April 9th vs Denver on TNT.

Originally Posted by Behold the King View Post
It's good to see you still hanging on to see that happen.

Not hanging on anymore :D

TheMACHINE

04-10-2009, 11:01 AM

DRHouse...KING OF THE ANTI-JINX

21_Blessings

04-10-2009, 02:06 PM

No, because even I know the very next game out he could go down and it's the same thing with Bynum.......he's injury prone and I'm sure somebody will be bumping this thread the moment he does go down.

No Bynum is not injury prone. Both knee injuries were results of freak accidents caused by teammates. He's no where near a T-Mac or Baron Davis that miss every other game due to a 'sore back'.