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RedsLakers24
03-31-2009, 01:01 AM
The growing sense in Dallas is that there are only two threats to the Mavericks’ hopes of re-signing Jason Kidd this summer.

1. Kobe Bryant convincing big-guard-loving Phil Jackson and the Lakers to make a run at his dear friend Kidd with L.A.’s midlevel exception.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090328-29

Spursfan092120
03-31-2009, 01:09 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090328-29
How many "Lakers are going to sign huge offseason free agent" threads are we going to have to see?

iggypop123
03-31-2009, 02:00 AM
too early for free agency. money hasnt been decided yet by economy

KidCongo
03-31-2009, 02:07 AM
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58175/20090329/kidd_hints_at_being_in_cleveland_next_season/

Bandwagon Lakers Fan
03-31-2009, 02:25 AM
Kidd is a scrub.

monosylab1k
03-31-2009, 02:32 AM
good riddance. I've tried everything to stay convinced that Kidd was a good pickup, but obviously he isn't. We got rid of speed, youth, & scoring because we believed Kidd had leadership, true PG abilities, & toughness (both mental and physical). We've gotten zero from him in the leadership & toughness department. Fuck him, let him go. We need to rebuild anyways.

DrHouse
03-31-2009, 03:04 AM
Get Kidd, get a prospect PG in the draft.

JETTISON FARMAR for a legitimate 3pt shooter and keep Vujabitch glued to the bench.

21_Blessings
03-31-2009, 04:08 AM
Kidd is a scrub.

Then what does that make Fisher/Sasha/Farmar?

Kidd is shooting 40% from the arc. Fucking perfect playing next to Kobe and in the triangle. He can hit the open jumper, he can push the basketball, he can pass/rebound, makes good decisions with the basketball and he's a better defender than any current PG the Lakers have.

Hopefully Buss ponies up cash while keeping Ariza and Odom.

Spursfan092120
03-31-2009, 04:25 AM
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58175/20090329/kidd_hints_at_being_in_cleveland_next_season/
Maybe Laker fans don't see reality unless it's repeated twice.

Bob Lanier
03-31-2009, 05:45 AM
Kidd is shooting 40% from the arc.
Given that his decade-long career average is 34%, there's no reason for you to consider this as anything but an aberration.

Not that 40% is exactly great for a spot-up shooter - people like Derek Fisher and Chauncey Billups can shoot 40% in much greater volume, even though they have extremely questionable shot selection.

AussieFanKurt
03-31-2009, 05:45 AM
Kidd wont go to Dallas fullstop

21_Blessings
03-31-2009, 06:33 AM
Given that his decade-long career average is 34%, there's no reason for you to consider this as anything but an aberration.

Given that he's been the go-to scoring option most of his career the increase in his % doesn't seem like an aberration at all. He's getting more open looks due to defenses focusing Dirk. In the triangle next to Kobe, those open looks would only increase. That and Kidd has been playing plenty of 2 guard in a spot up shooter role this season. It would be the same drill in LA where the PG isn't required to handle the ball as much.


Not that 40% is exactly great for a spot-up shooter - people like Derek Fisher and Chauncey Billups can shoot 40% in much greater volume, even though they have extremely questionable shot selection.

Derek Fisher has 278 3PA vs Kidd's 285

The difference is Fisher brings nothing else of value besides his spot up 3pt shooting. Can't dribble, drive, penetrate or finish worth a damn. Kidd brings all those things to the table.

Bob Lanier
03-31-2009, 07:00 AM
It would be the same drill in LA where the PG isn't required to handle the ball as much.
So why spend the extra money on a name like Kidd instead of getting a specialist without the baggage?

finish worth a damn. Kidd brings all those things to the table.
Kidd is one of the worst finishers you'll ever see.

Ghazi
03-31-2009, 08:09 AM
good riddance. I've tried everything to stay convinced that Kidd was a good pickup, but obviously he isn't. We got rid of speed, youth, & scoring because we believed Kidd had leadership, true PG abilities, & toughness (both mental and physical). We've gotten zero from him in the leadership & toughness department. Fuck him, let him go. We need to rebuild anyways.

Hate much? Not Kidd's fault Dirk turned into the white Antoine Walker, not Kidd's fault J-Ho mailed it the fuck in, not Kidd's fault Carlisle won't play our athletic studs Gerald mutha fuckin Green and Shawne mutha fuckin Williams, not Kidd's fault the FO thought Antoine mutha fuckin Wright is an adequate starting 2 guard. Not Kidd's fault the FO constructed a jump shooting team that can't shoot. If anything, Kidd is somewhat of a reason Barea and Terry are having solid years.

Fire Carlisle, free Green!:lobt2:

21_Blessings
03-31-2009, 08:11 AM
So why spend the extra money on a name like Kidd instead of getting a specialist without the baggage?

Because it makes the team better than a one-dimensional specialist.

Baggage? Since when has Jason Kidd been a team cancer. And who cares about the money, considering it's not yours and the Lakers are already cap'd out.


Kidd is one of the worst finishers you'll ever see.

Hahaha, obviously you haven't seen Derek, "I shoot 34% inside the paint" Fisher play :lol. Or Sasha.

Kidd is not one of the 'worst finishers you'll ever see'. That is straight retarded hyperbole.

mytespurs
03-31-2009, 12:28 PM
Here's my ignorance showing but what the hey.....why exactly would they need Jason Kidd? Don't the Lakers have enough depth/talent? Wouldn't it be better to go after a younger body?

And.....wasn't there rumors possibly linking Kidd to Cleveland?

Spursfan092120
03-31-2009, 12:30 PM
Here's my ignorance showing but what the hey.....why exactly would they need Jason Kidd? Don't the Lakers have enough depth/talent? Wouldn't it be better to go after a younger body?

And.....wasn't there rumors possibly linking Kidd to Cleveland?


http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58175/20090329/kidd_hints_at_being_in_cleveland_next_season/

Brickhouse
03-31-2009, 12:40 PM
Can't dribble, drive, penetrate or finish worth a damn. Kidd brings all those things to the table.


I can count with one hand the number of times I've seen Kidd drive and finish this season.



Hate much? Not Kidd's fault Dirk turned into the white Antoine Walker, not Kidd's fault J-Ho mailed it the fuck in, not Kidd's fault Carlisle won't play our athletic studs Gerald mutha fuckin Green and Shawne mutha fuckin Williams, not Kidd's fault the FO thought Antoine mutha fuckin Wright is an adequate starting 2 guard. Not Kidd's fault the FO constructed a jump shooting team that can't shoot. If anything, Kidd is somewhat of a reason Barea and Terry are having solid years.

No it is Kidd and his Zionist plots.

21_Blessings
03-31-2009, 01:22 PM
I can count with one hand the number of times I've seen Kidd drive and finish this season.
.

Kidd shoots 51% inside the paint (82games.com) which is 18% of his shots. More hyperbole.

Anyways, the point is Kidd is worlds better at driving and finishing compared to Fisher and brings a slew other positives to the PG position that does not exist on the Lakers atm.

SpursDynasty
03-31-2009, 01:45 PM
Two men who hate their wives, Jason Kidd and Kobe. Would make good teammates I suppose.

Red Hawk #21
03-31-2009, 01:48 PM
Two men who hate their wives, Jason Kidd and Kobe. Would make good teammates I suppose.

:lol. You haven't made me laugh in a while lol

Donkeybong
03-31-2009, 02:04 PM
our biggest problem is defending the point. I dont think kidd fixes that.

turiaf for president
03-31-2009, 02:13 PM
draft darren collison, start kidd, shop farmar, trade sasha for a bag of peanuts

monosylab1k
03-31-2009, 02:14 PM
:lmao Laker fan has spent all season talking about how much Jason Kidd sucks, but now that he might go to LA, suddenly they're making a case for him being the best PG in the league! Damn you guys are stupid.

DrHouse
03-31-2009, 02:52 PM
:lmao Laker fan has spent all season talking about how much Jason Kidd sucks, but now that he might go to LA, suddenly they're making a case for him being the best PG in the league! Damn you guys are stupid.

Who said he's the best PG in the league?

We're saying he's an improvement over Fisher and Farmar you dumbshit.

What was stupid was DAL trading Devin Harris for Kidd.

Banzai
03-31-2009, 02:55 PM
Who said he's the best PG in the league?

We're saying he's an improvement over Fisher and Farmar you dumbshit.

What was stupid was DAL trading Devin Harris for Kidd.

that is the truth.

Mugen
03-31-2009, 03:40 PM
as a spurs fan, i would love for jkidd to go to the lakers.

parker eats him alive and fisher is a spurs killer.

scanry
03-31-2009, 04:18 PM
Two men who hate their wives, Jason Kidd and Kobe. Would make good teammates I suppose.

:lol

Cmon SD, start making SpursTalk fun again...

RedsLakers24
03-31-2009, 05:19 PM
Hope the lakers get Bibby not Kidd, sign Bibby instead of Lamar and Sign Trevor would be good

PG: Bibby
SG: Kobe
SF: Ariza
PF:

baseline bum
03-31-2009, 05:54 PM
So they could have Fisher off the bench? As bad as Kidd has fallen off, he still beats the shit out of Jordan Farmar.

BUMP
03-31-2009, 06:13 PM
while it was dumb trading youth for an aging veteran, there is still no denying that Kidd is an above average guard. there was really nothing much more he could do in Dallas. he is what he is, a player who can push the basketball, a great passer, good spot up shooter, and his solid frame makes him a good defender. he isn't a premier scorer. its not his fault that Dallas is a team full of jump shooters without much athleticism.

as much i hate LA, this would be a great fit for them, and if they can sign him for cheap, i would cream my pants if i was a Laker fan.

crc21209
03-31-2009, 06:34 PM
If they were to go for Kidd what happens with Fisher and Farmar. Not enough room there for the 3 of them.

Laker-fan-in-SanAnto
04-16-2009, 07:47 PM
NEXT SEASON FARMAR IS OUT OF LA, BUT BROWN, FISHER, and KIDD is kinda crowded.
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww359/carlos12806/jkiddfarmar.jpg?t=1239928976

Nash2TimeMVp
04-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Kidd is washed up. His legs can't sustain the style he wants to play at. He f'ed the mavs, mavs don't have the personnel or coach that Kidd plays with so Cuban fucked up and brain farted on that one. Kidd wherever he goes will be a mediocre jumpshooter and a decent passer. I'd give him the LLE at best. I feel bad for dallas.

Laker-fan-in-SanAnto
04-16-2009, 07:55 PM
I agree. That's why I dont want him. I would rather have kept Harris, if I were Cuban. Good thing I'm not.