Video: You won't homeschool your kids after this, not for faint hearted**

[sook]

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The kid is a douche, I don't care how smart you are, if you don't have the basic social skills to communicate you can't do anything in life.

I won't homeschool my kid. :nope

[Clandestino]

fucking weird kid! wow!

[Creepn]

If the kid stays homeschooled he will lack the social skills to make friends or get a girl. If they put the kid in a school system, he will be picked on and/or will be an outkast. That kid is fucked.

[LnGrrrR]

This kid would get his ass kicked in high school. His parents probably home school him for his own safety. :D

I bet that lady said during the commercial, "Holy fuck why wasn't I warned about this kid being barely communicative?"

Although, to be fair, the kid had a point that scombridae is tough to tell how to spell without the Latin root. But sheesh, yeah, he's someone who's probably not losing his virginity in the next decade.

[Don Quixote]

I wouldn't take this one kid as a representative example of all homeschoolers. Most of the ones I've known are great -- smart, socially aware and well-adjusted, can communicate coherently, and are not addicted to their cell phones or MyFace. (Not all, bu most).

And I can find plenty of public school kids just as bad, or worse, than this kid.

[Winehole23]

And I can find plenty of public school kids just as bad, or worse, than this kid.Uncharacteristic (of your namesake), Don Quixote. You set the bar too low! :lol

[Winehole23]

*School* is not healthy for children and other living things.

[Winehole23]

We need brand new educational institutions. Homeschooling is one. But we can do much better.

[RandomGuy]

I wouldn't take this one kid as a representative example of all homeschoolers. Most of the ones I've known are great -- smart, socially aware and well-adjusted, can communicate coherently, and are not addicted to their cell phones or MyFace. (Not all, bu most).

And I can find plenty of public school kids just as bad, or worse, than this kid.

My wife's grandmother, a true "salt of the earth" kinda gal always snorted at homeschooled kids for being sheltered.

Sometime when the woman was in her late seventies, my wife was talking about the topic with her, and was struck by something that sweet ol' granny said:

"The first time those kids get to college and hear someone say the word "fuck" they are going to have a heart attack." :lol

[DarkReign]

The sheltered kids always ultimately fucked up in life. Sometimes it wasnt catastrophic, other times it was.

Homeschooled, sheltered...whatever.

These maladjusted adolescents go away to college, probably their first time away from mom's smothering, they go to their first party, get drunk for the first time with more than two people and the rest of the story is history.

Total waste-oids. I knew a kid in my class who had terrets-syndrome (sp?) that was more or less sheltered his whole life. Kind of a dorky kid, pretty smart, yada yada. The moment his parents stopped watching, he tried everything. Really liked oxy-cotin (sp?) and ended up getting arrested for breaking into the local vet trying to steal it.

He just got out of prison and is nowhere near the same kid that went in.

[DarrinS]

So he's an eccentric nerd. Why does this bother you guys so much?


Why does the concept of home-schooling bother you guys so much? It's not what I'm doing, but it's a free country. That kid is probably getting a far superior education than what he'd receive in a public school.

[DarrinS]

These maladjusted adolescents go away to college, probably their first time away from mom's smothering, they go to their first party, get drunk for the first time with more than two people and the rest of the story is history.

Everyone gets in trouble now and then.

http://techblog.dallasnews.com/bill-gates-mugshot.jpg

[LnGrrrR]

So he's an eccentric nerd. Why does this bother you guys so much?


Why does the concept of home-schooling bother you guys so much? It's not what I'm doing, but it's a free country. That kid is probably getting a far superior education than what he'd receive in a public school.

I have no problem with homeschooling. I'm just pointing out that the kid has EXTREMELY poor social skills, which will probably lead to him being a virgin for awhile, or maybe punched in the face in a later date.

[Blake]

what's wrong with home schooled spelling bee winners?

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[Blake]

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[RandomGuy]

The sheltered kids always ultimately fucked up in life. Sometimes it wasnt catastrophic, other times it was.

Homeschooled, sheltered...whatever.

These maladjusted adolescents go away to college, probably their first time away from mom's smothering, they go to their first party, get drunk for the first time with more than two people and the rest of the story is history.

Total waste-oids. I knew a kid in my class who had terrets-syndrome (sp?) that was more or less sheltered his whole life. Kind of a dorky kid, pretty smart, yada yada. The moment his parents stopped watching, he tried everything. Really liked oxy-cotin (sp?) and ended up getting arrested for breaking into the local vet trying to steal it.

He just got out of prison and is nowhere near the same kid that went in.

That is the ultimate danger of homeschooling: providing learning, but no real guidance on how to be a competant adult that can make good decisions in real life.

The number one goal of any/every parent should be to foster independence and realize that you can't keep your kid from the world forever. You must give them the real-life skills they will need when they finally fly from the nest.

[DarkReign]

Everyone gets in trouble now and then.

http://techblog.dallasnews.com/bill-gates-mugshot.jpg

Judging by Mr.Gates' smile, one would assume he wasnt going to prison.

Not jail....prison.

[LockBeard]

I've met some kids who were home-schooled and they turned out miles ahead of some of the losers I encountered in public school.

[PixelPusher]

Everyone gets in trouble now and then.

http://techblog.dallasnews.com/bill-gates-mugshot.jpg

lol at people using Bill Gates as a crutch when arguing for dropping out of school or getting busted by the cops.

[CosmicCowboy]

In 20 years a lot of the "cool" kids will probably be calling this kid "boss".

[balli]

I know plenty of people who were homeschooled and turned out fine, but that kid's not going to be anybody's boss. He's going to be a pedophile.

He wasn't just some nerd, he was someone who's obviously very smart and totally unequipped for human interaction. His development will become arrested, his intellect will be stunted by his social/emotional immaturity and at some point he's going to turn into a real weirdo whose main goal in life is to diddle 4 year olds.

[Blake]

In 20 years a lot of the "cool" kids will probably be calling this kid "boss".

aren't you the boss of your company?

[Shaolin-Style]

I was home schooled.

I turned out fine, minus the part where I don't have any friends. Especially on these forums.

[balli]

I turned out fine, minus the part where I don't have any friends. Especially on these forums.
Eh, I used to watch and laugh at your Gob video. That was yours right? Anyways, :toast for that.

[Crookshanks]

Have any of you really taken the time to see what homeschooling is? These kids don't just stay at home - there are many ways these kids interact with other homeschooled kids. For example - when the kids get into high school, many times the parent doesn't feel competent enough to teach the more complex subjects. So, a parent who is competent will teach a number of kids; kinda like a very small private school.

They also have intramural sports and field trips. Many times, Christian schools will allow homeschooled kids to be in the band or take part in school plays.

Homeschooling has come a long way and homeschooled kids usually do very well. Test scores back this up, and many universities actively pursue homeschooled students.

This kid may be socially inept - but don't blame it all on the homeschooling.

[101A]

Looks autistic to me. Just saying.

[spursfor5]

I have a home-schooled guy in one of my sophomore engineering classes and he cannot interact with anyone. He consistently struggles to make his point when speaking. Sure there are home-schooled kids that end up being CEOs, but those are the ones who can communicate with people in addition to having the smarts and by home-schooling, you put that kid at a major disadvantage socially (not the rule but the general trend). The same thing applies, however, to the putting a kid in public school. By allowing a child to flourish socially, you can end up putting them in a lower quality of education. Balance is the key whichever you chose.

[DarrinS]

I have a home-schooled guy in one of my sophomore engineering classes and he cannot interact with anyone. He consistently struggles to make his point when speaking. Sure there are home-schooled kids that end up being CEOs, but those are the ones who can communicate with people in addition to having the smarts and by home-schooling, you put that kid at a major disadvantage socially (not the rule but the general trend). The same thing applies, however, to the putting a kid in public school. By allowing a child to flourish socially, you can end up putting them in a lower quality of education. Balance is the key whichever you chose.



I remember being in engineering school in the early 90's. I can remember NUMEROUS students that one would classify as nerds, dorks, geeks, dweebs, etc. etc. I don't think it has anything to do with home-schooling.


As to the OP, maybe spelling bee champs are a little nerdy (in general), regardless of how their education was obtained.

[Spurminator]

It's the responsibility of parents who homeschool their children to make sure they learn to socialize in other areas. Church, recreational sports, scouts, music, theater, whatever. It's part of their education. There are many homeschooling parents who fail to prioritize this part of the education, but that's not an indictment on homeschooling. It's bad parenting.

[George Gervin's Afro]

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The kid is a douche, I don't care how smart you are, if you don't have the basic social skills to communicate you can't do anything in life.

I won't homeschool my kid. :nope



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That was rough to sit through. I think the interviewer is HOT!

[Crookshanks]

It's the responsibility of parents who homeschool their children to make sure they learn to socialize in other areas. Church, recreational sports, scouts, music, theater, whatever. It's part of their education. There are many homeschooling parents who fail to prioritize this part of the education, but that's not an indictment on homeschooling. It's bad parenting.

Very well said!

[J.T.]

In 20 years a lot of the "cool" kids will probably be calling this kid "boss".

McDonald's won't even hire this kid until he can learn to hold a conversation with another person and not come off as a complete dipshit.

[DarkReign]

Homeschooled kids, as a rule, are odd ducks.

Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. No exceptions.

[Blake]

McDonald's won't even hire this kid until he can learn to hold a conversation with another person and not come off as a complete dipshit.

:lol

I'm not so sure about that. The kid that took my order this morning could barely get my iced coffee order right, but damn if he didn't look like he could spell big words without blinking.

[sook]

I know plenty of people who were homeschooled and turned out fine, but that kid's not going to be anybody's boss. He's going to be a pedophile.

He wasn't just some nerd, he was someone who's obviously very smart and totally unequipped for human interaction. His development will become arrested, his intellect will be stunted by his social/emotional immaturity and at some point he's going to turn into a real weirdo whose main goal in life is to diddle 4 year olds.

Holyshit dude couldn't have said it better.

[sook]

what's wrong with home schooled spelling bee winners?

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My god...thats even worse that the one i put up.

[Wild Cobra]

Give the kid a break. President Obama's not any better when he's not using a teleprompter. Hell, this kid can be president at the rate of duds we're electing.

[clambake]

Give the kid a break. President Obama's not any better when he's not using a teleprompter. Hell, this kid can be president at the rate of duds we're electing.

nah, this kid will end up old and alone......hanging out in strip joints taking pictures of skanky whores flipping him off.

[Oh, Gee!!]

nah, this kid will end up old and alone......hanging out in strip joints taking pictures of skanky whores flipping him off.

:lol

[Don Quixote]

I've met some kids who were home-schooled and they turned out miles ahead of some of the losers I encountered in public school.

I agree. I'm not saying that ALL homeschooled kids are always better than kids in the public schools. I have indeed heard of maladjusted homeschooled kids.

But I'd be willing to bet real American dollars that the average American homeschooled kid is ahead of the average public school kid in academics, character (if that could be measured), and "life skills." With exceptions, of course. Most of the homeschoolers I know are great.

The heart of the question is, why should I pay my cash $$ into these failing public schools? When I know for sure that my children will not attend them. They will go to private or parochial school, or we will homeschool them. If you want to send your kid to public school, fine. Then you pay for it. Just my opinion.

[Cry Havoc]

Has anyone just wondered if maybe this kid was a little nervous about being on the national news?

[Don Quixote]

Hell, I would probably lock up if I were 12 and on national TV. And spelling bee champs are a little nerdy anyway.

And we all know loads of kids from public schools who are just as maladjusted, socially inept, and plain stupid as these homeschoolers.

[Cry Havoc]

Hell, I would probably lock up if I were 12 and on national TV. And spelling bee champs are a little nerdy anyway.

And we all know loads of kids from public schools who are just as maladjusted, socially inept, and plain stupid as these homeschoolers.

Actually I was on national TV when I was 11. It's a pretty crazy idea that about a jillion people are looking at you several times a day (it was a commercial), and I can't say I was the most eloquent. I think I did a bit better than this kid, but I don't know if anyone should say this kid is so behind socially that he'll never catch up based on 3 minutes of conversation. I remember being interviewed at one point... the light they put on my face was so bright I couldn't even see the reporter.

[Don Quixote]

That's why that TV show Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader? has the perfect age for the kids.

What would a first-grader do? He'd get all nervous, lock it up.

What would a ninth-grader do? Either (a) act out, or (b) be intentionally dumb.

But fifth-graders are perfect. They are all, 100%, complete twerps. They're kinda shy, but not afraid to be dumb on camera, but not on purpose. And they're not afraid to be the smartest kid in class and give you that poop-eating grin while doing it.

[LnGrrrR]

Give the kid a break. President Obama's not any better when he's not using a teleprompter. Hell, this kid can be president at the rate of duds we're electing.

Are we sure WC isn't a Turing machine?

"000111010101010 Insert teleprompter comment 010101001001001110 Insert socialism or fascism comment 00011011001111001010 insert insulting variant of the word democrat 0010101001 insert foot in mouth

:lmao

[ploto]

In homeschooling, like in all things, there are parents who are qualified and do it right and others who are simply control freaks. I also know one who does it simply so she does not have to get up early and get her kids ready to go to school. They can sleep in and go on vacation whenever they want. Her kids are getting an inferior education.

[CosmicCowboy]

You guys talking smack about this 12 year old kid are fucking hilarious.

So you guys were pitcher on your little league team, quarterback and captain of your Pop Warner football team, national junior honor society President, and getting stink finger from the hottest girls in the class when you were twelve?

So what the fuck happened to turn y'all into grown up losers jerking off while you wait for your next stimulus check from "the one"? :lol

[Wild Cobra]

"000111010101010 Insert teleprompter comment 010101001001001110 Insert socialism or fascism comment 00011011001111001010 insert insulting variant of the word democrat 0010101001 insert foot in mouth

There are 10 types of people. Those who know binary, and those who don't.

[Don Quixote]

There are 10 types of people. Those who know binary, and those who don't.

Boooooooooooooo! :p:

[DarkReign]

So what the fuck happened to turn y'all into grown up losers jerking off while you wait for your next stimulus check from "the one"? :lol

Huh? So let me get this straight...this 12 year old kid cant hold a conversation with normal human beings, and he is supposed to be exempt from criticism because he is 12 years old?

That wasnt nervousness playing its role. If youre nervous, you studder, or pass out, or cant complete a sentence.

The kid would give one word answers then force the anchor/interviewer to endure some long awkward silence. Or he'd answer the question with some oddball, irrelevant opinion.

That wasnt nervousness. That was a complete lack of social skills. Completely undeveloped portions of his personality that are going to be very hard for someone his age to fix.

This kid wont be employing anyone, ever. He wouldnt be able to perform an interview.

...and I dont what the stimulus check had to do with a stereotypical, awkward homeschooled kid, but thats partisanship for you. Inject your drivel at every corner hoping to catch a convert with their guard down, I guess.

[Don Quixote]

Everybody calm down. It's one nerdy kid.

[CosmicCowboy]

Huh? So let me get this straight...this 12 year old kid cant hold a conversation with normal human beings, and he is supposed to be exempt from criticism because he is 12 years old?

That wasnt nervousness playing its role. If youre nervous, you studder, or pass out, or cant complete a sentence.

The kid would give one word answers then force the anchor/interviewer to endure some long awkward silence. Or he'd answer the question with some oddball, irrelevant opinion.

That wasnt nervousness. That was a complete lack of social skills. Completely undeveloped portions of his personality that are going to be very hard for someone his age to fix.

This kid wont be employing anyone, ever. He wouldnt be able to perform an interview.

...and I dont what the stimulus check had to do with a stereotypical, awkward homeschooled kid, but thats partisanship for you. Inject your drivel at every corner hoping to catch a convert with their guard down, I guess.

And the question still stands...if you were so suave, eloquent, sophisticated, and on top of your game at 12 that you feel you have a right to trash this kid...

What the hell happened? :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

And the question still stands...if you were so suave, eloquent, sophisticated, and on top of your game at 12 that you feel you have a right to trash this kid...

What the hell happened? :lmao

What about what DR said could be construed as trashing?

[Winehole23]

The video posts and the ensuing commentary more excited my compassion than my disdain. And not primarily for the kids.

Evan O'Dorney looked awkward and doofus-like, and there were a lot of awkward pauses in the conversation, but all of his responses that weren't edited out made sense. Whereas the reporter was unprepared to administer her very own spelling bee. She mispronounced the word, then had trouble answering questions about its origin. When asked to repeat the word again she pronounced it various ways, but never very clearly. She then declared Mr. O'Dorney's misspelling correct, and congratulated him for spelling it wrong in precisely the manner he had predicted.

Who's the dummy again? Who made it more awkward than necessary?

That other spelling champ was a weird girl and had some weird takes -- there shouldn't be any spelling bees? -- but she was honest, good-natured and guileless and who among us can say as much?

Fucking creeps.

[clambake]

Fucking creeps.

hey...whoa... hold on.....do you not understand that you are our beacon of civility?

leave the trash talking to me.:toast

[Winehole23]

hey...whoa... hold on.....do you not understand that you are our beacon of civility?

leave the trash talking to me.:toastI occasionally have trouble containing myself, and as may you gather, my own remarks here are subject to extensive revision, but I think I'll let that one stand.

Fuck civility. Picking on weird kids walks on my fighting side.

[clambake]

i have a little kid. i agree with you.

i hope this kid and his family have no idea about what's being said on the interwebs.

[DarkReign]

And the question still stands...if you were so suave, eloquent, sophisticated, and on top of your game at 12 that you feel you have a right to trash this kid...

What the hell happened? :lmao

No offense, but what you said made no sense.

You posed a question. If I were so suave, eloquent, sophisticated and on top of my game at 12 that you feel you have a right to trash this kid....

???

What? That wasnt a question. To be honest, Im not the grammar police and I understand and commit the same error of typing too fast in front of my thoughts, but I cant even discern what point it is youre trying to make with that statement.

I could guess, I think.

First off, I never "trashed" the kid. I said he is socially inept. Yes, thats true. There is a difference between the kid too insecure to talk and is considered a weirdo or excessively shy by his peers and the kid who cannot hold a conversation with an adult in any cognitive, congruent manner.

So, yeah. Thats that.

Maybe he is slightly autistic. It would exlplain a lot. Dont know and really dont care. He won the Spelling Bee. Thats a pretty huge accomplishment so congratulations.

[Winehole23]

Maybe he is slightly autistic. It would exlplain a lot. Dont know and really dont care. He won the Spelling Bee. Thats a pretty huge accomplishment so congratulations.It came as no surprise to him. Kid has a little swagger.

[angel_luv]

I was home schooled from kinder all the way through 12th grade graduation.

One of the advantages to home schooling is the ability to specifically cater the study material to the student- his style of learning, his interests, and his academic level- in every subject.

Also I never had to deal with getting lost in a lecture or bored in one. If I easily grasped the material, I moved ahead in the book. When needed, mom would give me extra tutoring.
Since I was the only student, my mom could stop immediately if I was struggling to comprehend and work with me until I understood- a luxury not available to public students due to the number of students per class.

When I was in junior high I could not grasp certain geometry for the life of me.
I was growing quite frustrated and discouraged.
So my mom gave me a whole semester off from math, replacing it temporarily with another literature course- something I excelled at.
When I took up the math class again, I felt clear headed from the change of pace, encouraged from my success in Literature, and was able to succeed in the math class.

That kind of flexibility would not have been available to me in public school- where teachers are preparing lessons for twenty plus kids.

It is true that as a home schooled student, you are not exposed to many of the social situations that public school students grow up dealing with- school bullies, threats of school violence, drugs, peer pressure etc.
But those are things that I think we all agree we wish no kid had to deal with.

And I had trauma of my own to deal with a homeschooler. For example, my mom could cut short Christmas break and put school back into session if she wanted, and sometimes she did.

I was stuck at home alone with mom all day during a time in which I was going through the worst of adolescents and she was going through menopause. It was during eighth grade. Neither mom nor I was happy much of that year. :lol

Throughout school, I had an active social life. I was a member of a city wide choir, took dance at church, and was in a drama club with fellow homeschoolers. I was in 4-H. Also AWANA.

9-12 grades were a little different for me scholastically speaking.
In high school, I did a correspondence course with a high school in Illinois. They assigned all my textbooks and assignments and their teachers graded my work.
When I graduated, I was issued a diploma from that school.



My first real experience with consistent classmates was when I went away to Bible College at age 17. I did this immediately after graduating 12th grade.
The Bible College was a small one. The campus only housed about 300 students.
So college wasn't the huge shock to my system for me that I can imagine it would be for homeschoolers who attend a large, secular school.

I was studious and so enjoyed school. I found out after the fact that most everyone considered me a nerd but a likeable one.
I never had any serious trouble with anyone or with adjusting.

While it is true that I was sheltered and am sometimes to this day shocked at some of the things I hear people talk about and/ or do, I spent my time as a homeschooled student educating myself and deciding what I believed.

I have adjusted my views some based on age and information that I have gained through life experience.
I don't view my being home schooled as something that handicapped me. Rather I feel it allowed me to be a kid and to be a student, to develop without unnecessary scrutiny or criticism and emerge as an intelligent, competent adult.

True there were a lot of things I had yet to face as a newly graduated 17 year old, but I had been taught an abundance of information, was shown skills, and had developed character which enabled me to handle all I have since encountered.

The only reason I would not homeschool my own kids is I worry I don’t have the patience and creativity it takes to be a teacher.

[Bartleby]

Maybe he is slightly autistic. It would exlplain a lot. Dont know and really dont care. He won the Spelling Bee. Thats a pretty huge accomplishment so congratulations.

That was my first thought as well.

Kind of reminded me of the kid in this book:

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/babbalanja/dog.jpg

[DarkReign]

It came as no surprise to him. Kid has a little swagger.

Yeah, a little. To be clear, I am not making fun or "trashing" this kid. I am not even laughing at him as if this had some comedic value.

It actually kind of pisses me off, if anything. His parent's are to blame. Theyve created a barrier in this boys life that didnt need to be there in the first place.

Like 101A said, maybe hes slightly autistic. Also, what someone else said, homeschooling isnt what it used to be. They have remedial sports with other homeschooled kids, gatherings, field trips, etc.

But it doesnt *seem* this young man has had much social interaction outside his family circle. Thats the way it seems...doesnt mean Im right, just my snap observation. Could be wrong, could be waaaaay wrong. I hope I am wrong about his social skills, I really do.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I was home schooled from kinder all the way through 12th grade graduation.

where was graduation? the backyard? pwnt!

[Winehole23]

True there were a lot of things I had yet to face as a newly graduated 17 year old, but I had been taught an abundance of information, was shown skills, and had developed character which enabled me to handle all I have since encountered.I bet it did.

WH23 salutes your confiding spirit of self-disclosure (brava!) and respects your personal testimonial.

Cheers. :toast

[Oh, Gee!!]

I bet it did.

WH23 salutes your confiding spirit of self-disclosure (brava!) and respects your personal testimonial.

Cheers. :toast

just wait, she'll post something completely fucking bonkers.

[JoeChalupa]

Home schooling should be part of any child's upbringing. My kids go to public school but they get plenty of home schooling as well but I do feel the social skill part is needed to develop a well rounded child.

[Winehole23]

Yeah, a little. To be clear, I am not making fun or "trashing" this kid. I am not even laughing at him as if this had some comedic value.I didn't think so. I was more pissed off at the OP's for pushing these kids forward as some kind of example of homeschooling.


It actually kind of pisses me off, if anything. His parent's are to blame. Theyve created a barrier in this boys life that didnt need to be there in the first place.You don't get to choose your parents. And there's no license required to have a kid. Too bad.


Like 101A said, maybe hes slightly autistic. Also, what someone else said, homeschooling isnt what it used to be. They have remedial sports with other homeschooled kids, gatherings, field trips, etc.
I just thought he was an odd duck. Who knows? I've seen people grow out of this. I went to school with a kid who couldn't stop soiling his pants at school; he went on to be a very successful engineer.


But it doesnt *seem* this young man has had much social interaction outside his family circle. Thats the way it seems...doesnt mean Im right, just my snap observation. Could be wrong, could be waaaaay wrong. I hope I am wrong about his social skills, I really do.It's hard to tell from such a short interview. I wonder what got edited out as untelevisable.

[Winehole23]

just wait, she'll post something completely fucking bonkers.I know, but it costs nothing to be nice, and she did contribute a new angle to the thread. A first hand view.

[LnGrrrR]

You guys talking smack about this 12 year old kid are fucking hilarious.

So you guys were pitcher on your little league team, quarterback and captain of your Pop Warner football team, national junior honor society President, and getting stink finger from the hottest girls in the class when you were twelve?

So what the fuck happened to turn y'all into grown up losers jerking off while you wait for your next stimulus check from "the one"? :lol

Hey, I was made fun of in high school. I see no reason to stop the tradition of kids being made fun of in high school. :)

I can sure as hell say I was more suave than THAT kid though lol.

[LnGrrrR]

I occasionally have trouble containing myself, and as may you gather, my own remarks here are subject to extensive revision, but I think I'll let that one stand.

Fuck civility. Picking on weird kids walks on my fighting side.

Fuck that. Picking on weird kids is an American tradition. Let social Darwinism rule! :D

[LnGrrrR]

just wait, she'll post something completely fucking bonkers.

ROTFLMAO

I was thinking this, but didn't want to say it. Glad somebody else was the dick.
:lmao

[Winehole23]

Fuck that. Picking on weird kids is an American tradition. Let social Darwinism rule! :DThe tradition sucks, and social darwinism is merely the default philosophy of bullies. :lol

[Blake]

I was home schooled from kinder all the way through 12th grade graduation.


I'm getting so tempted here.....

get thee behind me johnsmith

[angel_luv]

where was graduation? the backyard? pwnt!

I didn't want a ceremony and so did not have one.

I was stupid to not have a party though. I could have banked.

[Winehole23]

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[angel_luv]

I bet it did.

WH23 salutes your confiding spirit of self-disclosure (brava!) and respects your personal testimonial.

Cheers. :toast

Thank you. :)

[Blake]

naw, I like AL and I'd feel worse if I picked on her than if I picked on the girl that was eating the microphone while trying to spell her words.

[LnGrrrR]

The tradition sucks, and social darwinism is merely the default philosophy of bullies. :lol

Adapt and overcome then! Crap, I was a skinny geek when I was a kid too, got into a few fights and didn't date at all in high school. But I developed a sense of humor, so that I might eventually find a mate and procreate (a process that is about three months along now, woohoo).

Now, I'm not advocating beating the crap out of him. But he's probably making fun of the jocks, or dumb people, or any numerous amount of people he thinks are 'weird'. Life's about celebrating the differences between people, and sometimes you celebrate that you're better than others, whether it be in economic standing, social skills, or just that someone sucks overall more than you. :D

[Winehole23]

I'm getting so tempted here.....

get thee behind me johnsmithOh, go ahead. Give in. In your heart, you already did!

[Blake]

Oh, go ahead. Give in. In your heart, you already did!

aaaaggh. twist my arm.

hey AL, did your mom's science curriculum consist of one sentence: "God did it."?





That's all I can muster......I already feel so dirty.

[Winehole23]

Angel Luv can take care of herself.

I'll just watch from a safe distance, promise.

[Winehole23]

Adapt and overcome then! Crap, I was a skinny geek when I was a kid too, got into a few fights and didn't date at all in high school. Oh you should be glad you never had to play soccer against me. I was undersized and a late bloomer, so I took it out on people plenty once I matured physically. I was a big ol bully on the pitch.


But I developed a sense of humor, so that I might eventually find a mate and procreate (a process that is about three months along now, woohoo).L'Chaim. :toast


Life's about celebrating the differences between people, and sometimes you celebrate that you're better than others, whether it be in economic standing, social skills, or just that someone sucks overall more than you.I used to be more concerned about the open sadism of American culture, but I've since become jaded and accept it more or less as a fact.

It is satisfying to point and laugh. In pars, it's what message boards like this exist for.

[LnGrrrR]

Oh you should be glad you never had to play soccer against me. I was undersized and a late bloomer, so I took it out on people plenty once I matured physically. I was a big ol bully on the pitch.

L'Chaim. :toast

I used to be more concerned about the open sadism of American culture, but I've since become jaded and accept it more or less as a fact.

It is satisfying to point and laugh. In pars, it's what message boards like this exist for.

No need to be jaded! Embrace it! Sometimes America is great because we protect the weak, and sometimes America is great because we make fun of the weak.

Like you said, when you could, you took advantage of the situation your greater size presented you. Now, I'm not advocating running over some kid half your size as a rule of thumb. But if he's being a douche, sure, nail him.

I don't think that the kid in the video was JUST awkward. Listen to the way he phrased his responses. They made him sound haughty and standoffish. "I don't know what my mom would think. Go ask her." "If you don't say it right, I can't spell it." Instead of the normal "Oh, I think she'd say blah blah blah" or "Could you pronounce that again please? It's important for me to hear it clearly in order to spell it."

The kid had a lack of manners coupled with his obvious weirdness. Whether that's due to upbringing or autism, I don't know. But it's certainly not going to get him a pass in my book.

[Winehole23]

The kid had a lack of manners coupled with his obvious weirdness. Whether that's due to upbringing or autism, I don't know. But it's certainly not going to get him a pass in my book.FWIW, it makes a difference to me.

The behavior problem is plain as day. But isn't it usual for twelve year olds to be haughty, contrary and conceited? Not to excuse it, but adolescence is not a gentle change even for the beautiful and well-socialized. Anxiety gets expressed in weird ways, as evidenced upstream. Both of those kids are pretty tightly wound. I know I was.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, a little. To be clear, I am not making fun or "trashing" this kid. I am not even laughing at him as if this had some comedic value.

It actually kind of pisses me off, if anything. His parent's are to blame. Theyve created a barrier in this boys life that didnt need to be there in the first place.

Like 101A said, maybe hes slightly autistic. Also, what someone else said, homeschooling isnt what it used to be. They have remedial sports with other homeschooled kids, gatherings, field trips, etc.

But it doesnt *seem* this young man has had much social interaction outside his family circle. Thats the way it seems...doesnt mean Im right, just my snap observation. Could be wrong, could be waaaaay wrong. I hope I am wrong about his social skills, I really do.



So, let me get this straight, if a person is awkward, nerdy, lacking in "social" skills, then it's because they are home-schooled? Have you never met a person like this in a public school? You probably have, and they are usually picked on and bullied, which REALLY improves their social skills.


One of my neighbors home-schools her two kids and they are absolute model citizens.


Just saying.


This thread fails miserably.

[LnGrrrR]

FWIW, it makes a difference to me.

The behavior problem is plain as day. But isn't it usual for twelve year olds to be haughty, contrary and conceited? Not to excuse it, but adolescence is not a gentle change even for the beautiful and well-socialized. Anxiety gets expressed in weird ways, as evidenced upstream. Both of those kids are pretty tightly wound. I know I was.

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. All I know is, at this moment in time, he seems like a weird jerk. :D

[LnGrrrR]

So, let me get this straight, if a person is awkward, nerdy, lacking in "social" skills, then it's because they are home-schooled? Have you never met a person like this in a public school? You probably have, and they are usually picked on and bullied, which REALLY improves their social skills.


One of my neighbors home-schools her two kids and they are absolute model citizens.


Just saying.


This thread fails miserably.

I'm surprised at all the support for homeschooling. A lot of people taking this seriously.

I don't really know anything about the habits of homeschoolers. I'm just ripping on this one kid. :D

[Winehole23]

Like you said, when you could, you took advantage of the situation your greater size presented you. Now, I'm not advocating running over some kid half your size as a rule of thumb. But if he's being a douche, sure, nail him.I had a physical playing style generally, but I tended to target players even bigger than me. Naploeon complex. I still pick on bullies a little bit.

[ploto]

I was home schooled from kinder all the way through 12th grade graduation.

Angel- isn't your mom a professor- though? Lots of people home school who have not the knowledge or experience to be doing it.

The main things that home schooled students miss educationally are learning how to speak in front of groups and how to work on group projects. I also feel that often they grow up without exposure to people who are different from them and that is not a good thing.

[LockBeard]

Pro-Choice!

[Winehole23]

The main things that home schooled students miss educationally are learning how to speak in front of groups and how to work on group projects. Public school kids miss out on this too.


I also feel that often they grow up without exposure to people who are different from them and that is not a good thing.Isn't this what college and the rest of your life is for?

Some kids who are home-schooled become miserable shut ins or else have unreasonably overprotective parents. Others become self-motivating and self-regulating. The relative absence of drugs and the sex selection pool in the educational scenario can be a good thing. It's not for everybody. But it is one option for kids who have stubborn developmental problems or are otherwise too weird to survive for long in public schools. Some kids could get short-changed by incompetent teachers, but this is just as true of public education.

If there's anything I've noticed about the ten or so people I've known who were home-schooled, it's a higher than average ratio of self-starters. Ultimately, everything in education depends crucially on the exertions of the student.

[sook]

^^ I couldn't have said it better myself. I will succumb to the fact that Home schooled students understand the conceptual area of most subjects better and do perform better academically. Interacting with your peers and making your own decisions with the right guidance exceeds everything. The Real Life experiences you get from School can not be taught anywhere else. Most of these kids collapse within themselves when they are released from the cage. Kids that are overly sheltered are the same way.

[angel_luv]

Angel- isn't your mom a professor- though? Lots of people home school who have not the knowledge or experience to be doing it.


True.
My mom teaches English at a Chinese University and is a highly intelligent person in general, so I was exceptionally blessed that she was the one who educated me.


My dad taught me history. It was his favorite subject and he also was a college graduate and highly intelligent.

[Winehole23]

I was home schooled.

I turned out fine, minus the part where I don't have any friends. Especially on these forums.Eh, you could do better. I'm just guessing you're on the younger side here, but regardless I recommend you start by befriending yourself. It costs very little and it might not suck as much as you think.

There's cool peeps if you hang around, like anywhere else on ST.

[smeagol]

IMHO, homeschooling is not a good idea . . .

[Obstructed_View]

Judging a kid by a three minute blurb on national TV makes perfect sense.

[exstatic]

We need brand new educational institutions. Homeschooling is one. But we can do much better.

We need better parents who don't think their kids should never have an upsetting experience like being grounded or having privileges revoked when they don't perform in school, and who are willing to take the teacher's side when they say their kid is a problem, or has a problem.

Teachers aren't going raise your kid or turn them into a good person. That's your job.

[Winehole23]

Teachers aren't going raise your kid or turn them into a good person. That's your job.Agree 100% with your emphasis on poor parenting. If more parents felt the same way about education, maybe public schools would be a little better.

If the schools function in loco parentis that doesn't make them the parents. For better and for worse, past a certain age public school socialization starts to overtake home training in both relevance and efficacy. So get your licks in early. Waiting too long to get involved is a recipe for fail.

[desflood]

IMHO, homeschooling is not a good idea . . .
I find that a pretty dangerous way of thinking, to believe that parents are not at all qualified to teach their own children. Might just as well hand them over to the government immediately upon birth.

I wonder if it's possible the kid is homeschooled because of his lack of social skills, not that he lacks social skills because he is homeschooled.

[Winehole23]

I wonder if it's possible the kid is homeschooled because of his lack of social skills, not that he lacks social skills because he is homeschooled.There's that, sure, then there's kids who honestly make better use of their time away from school, while getting their education at home. Once upon a time, it was normal. In principle, technology plus the various distance learning formats makes it possible again.

[Ya Vez]

I know there are home school coops where kids interact with other kids their age in classroom settings at least 3 days out of the week. Parents that are strong in some subjects teach those subjects and others teach in other strengths.. all the kids are in very social setting and interact in sports and other subjects like theater and music.

[Winehole23]

I know there are home school coops where kids interact with other kids their age in classroom settings at least 3 days out of the week. Parents that are strong in some subjects teach those subjects and others thech in other strengths.. all the kids are in very social setting and interact in sports and other subjects like theater and music.Highly dependent upon the quality of participation like all other forms of homeschooling, but viable. I wish there was more of it.

[InK]

This has got little to do with homeschooling, its the spelling bee kids. There is a great documentary on this subject called spellbound or something like that, where you can clearly see what kind of pressure those kids are beeing subjected.

[sook]

I was thinking about this for a while yesterday.

Winning the spelling bee is a great accomplishment. Requires great diligence and hardwork.

But why the fuck put so much emphasis on spelling? When i was a young boy in school

we used to have tests over spelling on a regular basis. As i progressed and had to take notes in classes

handwriting and spelling got worse than it had ever been, but i have always been a straight A student.

If it was a competition on Vocabulary, History, or other subjects it would be completely

understandable because that MAY benefit you. But these kids really aren't getting much

out of spelling, and I'm not talking about the money they win from the competition. Its

kind of like getting a good grade in a useless class. It'll help your GPA out but in reality it

doesn't play a role in developing your intellect.

[ploto]

If there's anything I've noticed about the ten or so people I've known who were home-schooled, it's a higher than average ratio of self-starters. Ultimately, everything in education depends crucially on the exertions of the student.

Actually, I believe that first it depends on the value of education that is instilled from the parents. I would guess that many who home school think they are giving their kids a better education than what they can get elsewhere. Most who are successful from any form of schooling- be it home, private or public- come from families that support how important education is in the first place. Home schooling surely has a higher percentage of this type as do private schools, with public schools having a lower percentage.

[Gummi Clutch]

I was thinking about this for a while yesterday.

Winning the spelling bee is a great accomplishment. Requires great diligence and hardwork.

But why the fuck put so much emphasis on spelling? When i was a young boy in school

we used to have tests over spelling on a regular basis. As i progressed and had to take notes in classes

handwriting and spelling got worse than it had ever been, but i have always been a straight A student.

If it was a competition on Vocabulary, History, or other subjects it would be completely

understandable because that MAY benefit you. But these kids really aren't getting much

out of spelling, and I'm not talking about the money they win from the competition. Its

kind of like getting a good grade in a useless class. It'll help your GPA out but in reality it

doesn't play a role in developing your intellect.
Well, although i agree spelling has little use, in reality all you need is 20% of the beginning and 20% of the end of the word to know it in most cases, kids that do this stuff develop could work habits

[Winehole23]

understandable because that MAY benefit you. But these kids really aren't getting much

out of spelling, and I'm not talking about the money they win from the competition. Its

kind of like getting a good grade in a useless class. It'll help your GPA out but in reality it

doesn't play a role in developing your intellect .I played Putt-Putt competitively for two years. I know exactly what you mean. :lol

Srsly, orthography is for pussies. Or academics. Usage is king.

This judgment comes from a person who thinks knowledge of Anglophone roots and derivations helps precision and is very important. Next to actual usage, etymology is nothing. It's always way more important to understand what people are actually saying to you.

[Winehole23]

Well, although i agree spelling has little use, in reality all you need is 20% of the beginning and 20% of the end of the word to know it in most cases, kids that do this stuff develop could work habitsCrndsr wtrng stnncs wtht vlws, thn srcnwg p th odrr f th csnsnnts, bt lnvg th fsrt nd lts cnsntns th sm.

[Winehole23]

Actually, I believe that first it depends on the value of education that is instilled from the parents. For me, part of the attraction of education is that it took me away from my parents. Not that they were uneducated, but my own love of learning did not come from them.


I would guess that many who home school think they are giving their kids a better education than what they can get elsewhere. Most who are successful from any form of schooling- be it home, private or public- come from families that support how important education is in the first place. Home schooling surely has a higher percentage of this type as do private schools, with public schools having a lower percentage.Sounds like a reasonable guess to me. Those who care about education will do a little better. That is no guarantee for their kids though.

[VaSpursFan]

whoa, that's rain man if he was a speller...LOL

[sook]

I played Putt-Putt competitively for two years. I know exactly what you mean. :lol

Srsly, orthography is for pussies. Or academics. Usage is king.

This judgment comes from a person who thinks knowledge of Anglophone roots and derivations helps precision and is very important. Next to actual usage, etymology is nothing. It's always way more important to understand what people are actually saying to you.

Exactly, i don't understand why they don't do a competition about the definitions.

[sook]

Well, although i agree spelling has little use, in reality all you need is 20% of the beginning and 20% of the end of the word to know it in most cases, kids that do this stuff develop could work habits
http://help.com/post/220484-this-proves-spelling-doesnt


This proves spelling doesn’t matter…

I cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

The reset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lterter by istelf, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig eh? And I awlyas tohghut slpeling was imporantt…! And for thsoe of you wtih mroe tmie tahn ohrets, you wlli ntocie taht not olny are msot of the wrosd a mses but smoe of tehm are cpmlpoetley msiseplt awslel…!

************************************************** ************** ***********************

I couldn’t believe that I could actually understand what I was reading. The phenominal power of the human mind, according to research at Cambridge University, it doesn’t matter what order the letters in a word are, the only important thing is that the first and last letter be in the right place.

The rest can be a total mess and you can still read it without a problem. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word as a whole. Amazing, eh? And I always thought spelling was important! And for those of you with more time on your hands than others, you will notice that not only are most of the words a mess but some of them are completely misspelt as well!

Yup.

[Oh, Gee!!]

bodi miller was home-schooled and he's a dick

[LnGrrrR]

Judging a kid by a three minute blurb on national TV makes perfect sense.

Hell, I judge people within seconds. Technically, we all do. Usually it's subconscious, but not always. After all, if a guy cuts me off in traffic, I immediately judge him as a douchebag. Maybe he just got back from giving $10,000 to a local charity. Who knows? I am still judging him as a douchebag from my vantage point.

[Cry Havoc]

Crndsr wtrng stnncs wtht vlws, thn srcnwg p th odrr f th csnsnnts, bt lnvg th fsrt nd lts cnsntns th sm.


http://help.com/post/220484-this-proves-spelling-doesnt


This proves spelling doesn’t matter…

I cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

The reset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lterter by istelf, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig eh? And I awlyas tohghut slpeling was imporantt…! And for thsoe of you wtih mroe tmie tahn ohrets, you wlli ntocie taht not olny are msot of the wrosd a mses but smoe of tehm are cpmlpoetley msiseplt awslel…!

************************************************** ************** ***********************

I couldn’t believe that I could actually understand what I was reading. The phenominal power of the human mind, according to research at Cambridge University, it doesn’t matter what order the letters in a word are, the only important thing is that the first and last letter be in the right place.

The rest can be a total mess and you can still read it without a problem. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word as a whole. Amazing, eh? And I always thought spelling was important! And for those of you with more time on your hands than others, you will notice that not only are most of the words a mess but some of them are completely misspelt as well!

Yup.

This is absolutely untrue. They specifically chose words and letter orders that your mind can resolve without needing the spelling as much. It's a myth and has been debunked several times.

Do your research next time before automatically taking something for truth.

(and just for you doubters)

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Or, if you prefer:

Interestingly I'm studying this controversial phenomenon at the Department of Linguistics at Aberystwyth University and my extraordinary discoveries wholeheartedly contradict the publicized findings regarding the relative difficulty of instantly translating sentences. My researchers developed a convenient contraption at http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/tool that demonstrates that the hypothesis uniquely warrants credibility if the assumption that the preponderance of your words is not extended is unquestionable. Apologies for adopting a contradictory viewpoint but, theoretically speaking, lengthening the words can manufacture an incongruous statement that is virtually incomprehensible.

[Winehole23]

I threw it out as a curiosity, not as authoritative. Whatever. Your own refutation is not more authoritative than what it refutes. Indeed, the claim actually made above is rather weak:


My researchers developed a convenient contraption at http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/tool that demonstrates that the hypothesis uniquely warrants credibility if the assumption that the preponderance of your words is not extended is unquestionable. Apologies for adopting a contradictory viewpoint but, theoretically speaking, lengthening the words can manufacture an incongruous statement that is virtually incomprehensible. Tricky condition (all big words) plus a weasel word qualifier. It's not sporting to set the bar so low, but perhaps I should rest content you did not dig a trench to bury it in. :rollin