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Jimcs50
09-22-2004, 11:18 AM
Well, if the old football axiom lends true, then Washington will beat Dallas on Monday night.

Washington is the #1 defense in the NFL and Dallas is the #1 offense in the NFL....that is s matchup made for great drama and television. This should be a great game, unless Washington continues its sloppy play from week 2. Bring it on!!!

jcrod21
09-22-2004, 02:08 PM
"The team posted a 12-12 record against the Redskins during Gibbs' first tenure as head coach . . . The Cowboys do hold a 53-34-2 advantage against their division rival, including 13 wins in the last 14 games.

The Redskins are tied for 30th in the NFL in turnover ratio with a -6. That number includes four interceptions, all against New York, and four fumbles

Everyone talked about the Cowboys' first-ranked defense last season, but as of now, that honor belongs to the Redskins. Washington has allowed an average of 223 total yards in their first two games, 177 coming from the pass. With the Cowboys being first in overall offense (432 yards per game), this could be the match-up that people were hoping for Week One against Minnesota. "

SpursFanInAustin
09-22-2004, 02:11 PM
I remember Dallas had the #1 ranked offense after week 2 last year as well too, especially after putting up 35 pts vs the Giants last year on MNF, but finished the year with the #1 ranked defense and #18 ranked offense. Stats as of right now in week 2 are irrelevant. Besides, most of Dallas' yardage has come from the arm of Vinny throwing for 677 yards in two games, however, how many pts are the Boys averaging? 18 ppg.

bigzak25
09-22-2004, 02:24 PM
are you guys all watching the game at home?

i might head to good'ol blanco tavern.....although i think they fired my favorite bartender....the bastards...

jcrod21
09-22-2004, 02:44 PM
True SFA, but their offense is defintely better this yr. Better offense line, running backs and "receiver". They just have to put the ball in the endzone, which I believe it will start happening soon. On the other hand, their defense isn't as good as last yr, but should improve in time, especially when Woody comes back.

Should be a fun game.

DuffMcCartney
09-22-2004, 04:35 PM
i might head to good'ol blanco tavern...

That place is pretty cool...they got Cherry Vodka Sour dirt cheap there. Awesome.

bigzak25
09-23-2004, 07:19 PM
uh....crap. no excuses though.

www.washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45501-2004Sep23.html)

Redskins' Arrington Likely Out for Two-to-Four Weeks

By Jason LaCanfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 24, 2004; 5:22 PM

Linebacker LaVar Arrington is likely to undergo arthroscopic knee surgery, according to Coach Joe Gibbs, and would be sidelined two-to-four weeks.

Arrington, who has had problems with both knees during preseason and the first two regular-season games, missed practice today to see orthopedic specialist James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala. If doctors decide to perform surgery to repair his meniscus, it would likely be done in the next day or so.


LaVar Arrington will likely have arthroscopic knee surgery and could miss up to four weeks. (John McDonnell - The Washington Post)

According to Gibbs, Arrington felt better Wednesday and coaches and trainers believed he was on the verge of putting the problem behind him, but the knee swelled overnight, prompting the decision to go to Alabama.

Gibbs, who was awaiting further medical word, said that no matter whether surgery is performed, it would take "a miracle" for Arrington to play Monday night against Dallas.

Mike Barrow, signed in the offseason to be the starting middle linebacker, is still battling tendinitis in his left knee, but Gibbs said there is a possibility Barrow could play Monday. Antonio Pierce, who was starting at middle linebacker in Barrow's place, could sub for Arrington.

Injuries continue to be a problem for the Redskins, who lost starting right tackle Jon Jansen for the season in the first exhibition game. Starting quarterback Mark Brunell may miss Monday's game because of a hamstring injury and starting defensive end Phillip Daniels is out for at least the next two weeks with a groin tear.

Jimcs50
09-23-2004, 07:32 PM
$%^&^^%%^&*&&^^%$#^&***&^$%$


Now 2 starting linebackers are out as well as our starting QB and DE...hell yeah, I am going to make excuses...**** ya'll.

bigzak25
09-23-2004, 07:40 PM
:lol Jim, you crazy...

i'd be very confident in the skins if the freakin line would come back up....i think it's off the board because of frickin brunell...

SAmikeyp
09-24-2004, 01:30 AM
Jim you are such a pussy. :spin


Phillip Daniels is out for at least the next two weeks with a groin tear

Ok, Redskin or not...that has got to suck!

Alamo Spurs Fan
09-24-2004, 01:50 AM
The football gods have collected their price for a Cowboys win Monday night.

My beloved Rough Riders bit the big one tonight in a 24-6 loss to the school that spawned the ex-fiance from hell...Madison.

Cowboys win. Guaranteed.

:lol

Jimcs50
09-24-2004, 11:25 AM
Mikey, yes I am snakebit with my teams, they always get hosed....13 yrs and counting. Cowboys will now win the game.

bigzak25
09-24-2004, 11:47 AM
NEVER SAY DIE!

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

The cowboys don't have woodson or julius jones, and i don't wanna hear any excuses from them, so i'm not gonna make any for us.....you put the best team that you can on the field and let the chips fall where thay may.....

losing arrington hurts tremendously because our line is not going to be able to pressure the QB without help from the blitzers, the best one being Lavar. but oh well, whatcha gonna do? It's up to St. Joe and Company to run portis left, right and up the middle and keep the ball out of vinny's hands....Ramsey needs to make good decisions, and I know vinnie got his ass chewed for some lofty passes and bad decisions last week, as well. It will be a great game, with 90,000+ fans cheering our team on. We can't lose a home division game. We won't lose this one.











Patiently waiting for the one guy that hasn't seen Animal House to point out that it was Japan....

bigzak25
09-24-2004, 11:58 AM
:smokin2 the line is back up....skins -1, upto skins -1.5

arrington reportedly out. brunell hobbling. skins looked awful last week. 7 turnovers. dallas got the W over cleveland and have a highly ranked offense.....


lotsa money on Dallas. i'll take the Skins and the Over.

Jimcs50
09-24-2004, 12:07 PM
Zak, don't do it!!!! Cowboys are going to win by 2 TDs at least.

bigzak25
09-24-2004, 12:14 PM
beg to differ. we don't play a "great" offense til the greenbay game....they are the only team that has the firepower to beat our skins by 2 td's.

http://www.redskins.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/HMMFFAKKKJBE/gibbsfieldpg.jpg

Jimcs50
09-24-2004, 12:39 PM
Zak, they are going to have 3 TDs with their defense and 1 TD with their offense.

bigzak25
09-24-2004, 01:00 PM
Posted on Fri, Sep. 24, 2004
Redskins' Portis would like to smack Cowboys

By Jennifer Floyd Engel
Star-Telegram Staff Writer



IRVING - Redskins coach Joe Gibbs has asked his running back, Clinton Portis, to please tone down his smack talking.

And he has.

Kind of.

What he called to tell Cowboys safety Roy Williams on Wednesday was tame by Portis standards.

"He was like, 'Yeah, man, my mom is going to have good seats to see me score on y'all,' " Williams said. "I was just laughing. He is talking about where she is sitting and all."

Portis and Williams have a friendship born from a chance meeting at an NFL orientation. So Portis can talk smack to him.

Portis has been able to talk smack to everybody else in the NFL because hardly anybody has been able to shut him down in his two-plus NFL seasons, which is the only way to shut him up. He had 1,591 yards his rookie year in Denver, despite missing two games, and added another 1,508 yards last season, his last in a Broncos uniform.

Ask anybody who has played against him, sometimes you can just hear a tremendously frustrating day coming on.

"Smack, smack, smack, he talks a lot of smack," said Cowboys defensive end Marcellus Wiley, who saw and heard plenty of Portis while playing for the San Diego Chargers. "It gets louder as the game goes on and he does better. So the key is to get after him early and try to stay after him. That's the only way."

Which is what Wiley has been preaching to his teammates all week. Portis officially became a Cowboys nuisance March 4 when Gibbs traded Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey and a second-round draft pick to Denver for him. What the Redskins gave up was a lot. What they got back was what they desperately coveted: an almost as-good-as-guaranteed 100 yards rushing per game.

"It wasn't a guessing game," Gibbs explained.

What had people guessing was, why Portis? He is hardly your "prototypical" Gibbs power back.

"I'm accustomed to any back that can make yards," Gibbs said. "In John Riggins, we had a huge fullback who was very strong and made a lot of yards for us. Earnest Byner was 220 pounds, solid as a rock, good pass receiver, made a lot of yards for us. We had Terry Metcalf and Joe Washington. They were small backs and darters who made a lot of yards for us. I think as a coach you don't care what the package looks like, as long as you can make yards."

Portis has done that in his two games in a Redskins uniform, rushing for 217 yards and a touchdown.

He just has not been as prolific as he was in Denver, with only 69 yards last week against a less-than-stout New York Giants defense, and two fumbles. In fact, take away his 64-yard touchdown run in his debut, and Portis has averaged a mere mortal and very Troy Hambrick-ish 3.1 yards per carry.

It has led to talk that maybe the Broncos system made Portis, not Portis making the system. He does not do well with such talk.

"Man, I really don't care about the talk about a system," Portis said. "If you think a system is what makes backs, it's for the media to perceive. You can draw up all the X's and O's that you want, but when you get on the field, it never happens that way."

Which is why the Cowboys' defense has spent almost all week tucked away in film rooms.

Linemen and linebackers and safeties and cornerbacks have studied Portis' every twitch with attention usually reserved only for Halle Berry films. What they have learned is that Portis, not unlike a lot of good backs, gets a lot of his yards cutting back and is extremely dangerous when allowed to bounce outside.

"He has great vision," Wiley said, "and he has the feet to go where he sees."

What the Cowboys defenders, who rank 26th in the NFL against the run, say they have to do is what all defensive players say they have to do when facing a good back. Get a lot of guys around the ball. Stay in their gaps. Swarm him when he has the ball. What the Cowboys can't do is what they did against the Cleveland Browns on Sunday: stop them, stop them, stop them, let down for a single play and give up a big run.

Because Portis is the kind of back for whom a single big run gets him rolling.

His legs. And his mouth.

And will Gibbs' ban stop this? Not likely.

"When we get on the field, coach Gibbs can't hear what I'm saying," Portis said.

Which is good because you can bet Portis will be pointing out his mom for Williams.

www.dfw.com (http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/9748762.htm?1c)

http://www.clintonportis.com/imgs/cp26splashscreen2.jpg

SAmikeyp
09-24-2004, 01:12 PM
The cowboys don't have woodson or julius jones, and i don't wanna hear any excuses from them, so i'm not gonna make any for us.....you put the best team that you can on the field and let the chips fall where thay may.....

I agree....I am not one to make excuses for my teams...and I know Zak is the same way.


I see Jimmy Franchise is busting out the reverse psychology. :spin

Jimcs50
09-24-2004, 01:20 PM
Dallas is going to shut him up bigtime. I doubt he will get 3 yds rushing on Monday. dallas is the best at shutting down Redskin RBs. Portis is toast.

bigzak25
09-24-2004, 01:22 PM
oh....now i get it.

bizarro Jim!:lol

Jimcs50
09-24-2004, 01:23 PM
Go Cowboys!!!!!:elephant

SAmikeyp
09-24-2004, 01:28 PM
Do not listen to the man behind the curtain! :p

TacoBeer
09-24-2004, 01:39 PM
Sucks for Me cause I have to work Monday night and will get home about the Start of the 4th qtr

I'm gonna use my DVR to record the game