NBA Trivia - Which Spurs have had an Octuple Cycle?

[Galileo]

NBA Trivia - Which Spurs have had an Octuple Cycle?

An Octuple Cycle - had in one game:

1+ block
2+ three-pointers
3+ steals
4+ offensive rebounds
5+ free throws
6+ assists
7+ defensive rebounds
8+ two-point FGs

[edit - or the stats can be re-arranged in a different order]

That means at least:

27 points
11 rebounds
6 assists
3 steals
1 block

What NBA players have done this?

from Galileo, the triviameister!

:downspin:

UPDATE!!

The real stat is the re-arranged re-arranged Octuple Cycle, ususally just called an Octuple Cycle with 1, 2, 3, ... 8 of all 8 stats, but you can mix and match.

It doesn't have to be the exact form above, that is just the easiest way for many players.

[DAF86]

Coming from you, I bet it was Tim Duncan.

P/S: Is this Octuple Cycle thing a real thing? Or just something you made up?

[Joe Schmoogins]

from the spurs, my guess would be either Elliott or Ginobili

[Muser]

Iceman..?

[urunobili]

Manu

[duncan228]

That means at least:

27 points
11 rebounds
6 assists
3 steals
1 block


Duncan. Game 1, 2003 Finals. :)

32 points
20 rebounds
6 assists
3 steals
7 blocks

[Joe Schmoogins]

It seems like a stat line that Lebron puts up regularly though.

[Joe Schmoogins]

Duncan. Game 1, 2003 Finals. :)

32 points
20 rebounds
6 assists
3 steals
7 blocks

What a beast! Did he have two threes that game?

[duncan228]

What a beast! Did he have two threes that game?

No three's. He was just playing out of his mind that season.

[Galileo]

Coming from you, I bet it was Tim Duncan.

P/S: Is this Octuple Cycle thing a real thing? Or just something you made up?

Its real.

You can also have a re-arranged Octuple Cycle, where you go from 1 to 8 with the stats in any order.

The hard part is a 1, 2, or 3 blocks/three-pointers/steals

Then you usually need 4, 5, or 6 free throws/assists/offensive boards

and

7 or 8 defensive rebounds/two-pointers

Keep lookin'

:-)

[duncan228]

Damn, I missed the three's in the equation.

[DAF86]

Its real.

You can also have a re-arranged Octuple Cycle, where you go from 1 to 8 with the stats in any order.

The hard part is a 1, 2, or 3 blocks/three-pointers/steals

Then you usually need 4, 5, or 6 free throws/assists/offensive boards

and

7 or 8 defensive rebounds/two-pointers

Keep lookin'

:-)

So it isn't Duncan?

I bet it was an old dude I don't know about.

[jaffies]

Alvin Robertson

[duncan228]

I think Duncan has to be out of it. I don't think he's ever taken two three's in a game, never mind made two.

[Galileo]

I think Duncan has to be out of it. I don't think he's ever taken two three's in a game, never mind made two.

Duncan would need to have one three to qualify.

Then look for a game with 2 steals.

That is the hard part for Duncan.

[duncan228]

From a quick look, Duncan has taken two three's a few times over the years, but he hasn't made two in a game.

[Galileo]

This is like hitting for the cycle in baseball, the hardest part is getting the triple. The double and home run aren't easy either!

Its easier in basketball.

[Galileo]

From a quick look, Duncan has taken two three's a few times over the years, but he hasn't made two in a game.

Duncan needs a game with a three, and then probably 2 steals.

the real stat is the re-arranged quadruple cycle.

[duncan228]

I'm out. If Duncan has done it someone please find it before I get back or I'll be up all night looking for it. :lol

[jaffies]

David Robinson
March 29, 1994
vs. Dallas (at Dallas)

1 3pt made
2 steals
3 off. reb.
4 def.reb.
5 blocks
6 assists
7+ free throws
8+ field goals

What do I win?

[Galileo]

Come on guys, did Duncan ever get an octuple cycle (in any order)?

What about Lebron?

He would need, say, a three, 2 blocks, 3 steals, and 4 offensive boards for starters.

What about Jordan or Clyde Drexler?

[jaffies]

and from what i could find, Duncan has done it only once:

March 16, 2001
vs. New Jersey (at San Antonio)

1 3pt made
2 steals
3 assists
4+ blocks
5 off. reb
6 free throws
7+ def. reb.
8+ field goals

[Galileo]

David Robinson
March 29, 1994
vs. Dallas (at Dallas)

1 3pt made
2 steals
3 off. reb.
4 def.reb.
5 blocks
6 assists
7+ free throws
8+ field goals

What do I win?

You will be hailed as a stat freak on spurstalk and given $300 vbookie dollars!

:flag:

[jaffies]

Robinson did it again in 1996.

Feb. 18th, 1996
vs. Houston (at San Antonio)

1 3pt made
2 steals
3+ off. reb.
4 free throws made
5 assists
6+ def. reb.
7 blocks
8+ field goals

[Galileo]

Robinson did it again in 1996.

Feb. 18th, 1996
vs. Houston (at San Antonio)

1 3pt made
2 steals
3+ off. reb.
4 free throws made
5 assists
6+ def. reb.
7 blocks
8+ field goals

DRob rocks!!

[DAF86]

Robinson did it again in 1996.

Feb. 18th, 1996
vs. Houston (at San Antonio)

1 3pt made
2 steals
3+ off. reb.
4 free throws made
5 assists
6+ def. reb.
7 blocks
8+ field goals

Shouldn't he have at least 2 three's?

[exstatic]

Shouldn't he have at least 2 three's?

Reread the thread. That particular octuple order was just an example. You can put made 3 pointers in the '1' spot.

Manu has to have done this. Anyone? Alvin's another good candidate.

[GSH]

Sean Elliott came close on a number of occasions, but I don't think he got all of those done in one game. But damn, looking back at his stat lines! Put a young Sean on this team, and we'd scare everyone.

[jaffies]

Manu has to have done this. Anyone? Alvin's another good candidate.

Manu Ginobili did it once
November 12, 2004
vs. Miami

1 block
2 off. reb.
3+ def. reb. (5)
4+ steals (6)
5 3pt made
6+ assists (7)
7+ free throws (8)
8 field goals

[jaffies]

Alvin Robertson was very close in this great performance

March 18th, 1989
vs. Utah (in San Antonio)


1 block
1 3pt made
2 free throws
4 off. reb.
5+ def. reb. (7)
6+ steals (7)
7+ assists (10)
8+ field goals (12)


No other Spurs have done it. These guys were very close a couple of times:
Robert Horry
Dennis Rodman
Sean Elliott
Willie Anderson
Lloyd Daniels

[duncan228]

Thanks for the research jaffies. Appreciate it. :)

[Spurs Brazil]

Duncan. Game 1, 2003 Finals. :)

32 points
20 rebounds
6 assists
3 steals
7 blocks

I think 2003 was TD best year, he was FANTASTIC.

That team had 2 kind of players: too old and too young so we were very inconsistent but TD was always there.

[GSH]

Alvin Robertson was very close in this great performance

March 18th, 1989
vs. Utah (in San Antonio)


1 block
1 3pt made
2 free throws
4 off. reb.
5+ def. reb. (7)
6+ steals (7)
7+ assists (10)
8+ field goals (12)


No other Spurs have done it. These guys were very close a couple of times:
Robert Horry
Dennis Rodman
Sean Elliott
Willie Anderson
Lloyd Daniels

How about before they were Spurs?

Horry did it on 4-14-1994. He was one STL/ORB short on 3-19-1996.

Dominique Wilkins did it on 12-29-1990. He was one STL/AST shy on 12-26-91.

Brent Barry came damned close on 1-11-2001, when he was playing against the Spurs.

I was a little surprised that Finley never did it, but he came close on a number of occasions.

[Thomas82]

I think 2003 was TD best year, he was FANTASTIC.

That team had 2 kind of players: too old and too young so we were very inconsistent but TD was always there.

IMO, he carried that team on his back the whole season.

[Galileo]

Alvin Robertson was very close in this great performance

March 18th, 1989
vs. Utah (in San Antonio)


1 block
1 3pt made
2 free throws
4 off. reb.
5+ def. reb. (7)
6+ steals (7)
7+ assists (10)
8+ field goals (12)


No other Spurs have done it. These guys were very close a couple of times:
Robert Horry
Dennis Rodman
Sean Elliott
Willie Anderson
Lloyd Daniels

fyi - just to make sure, the FGs have to be two-pointers and three-pointers separate.

[jaffies]

fyi - just to make sure, the FGs have to be two-pointers and three-pointers separate.

Aw, crap.

In any case, all 4 games (Robinson-2, Duncan-1, Ginobili-1) still stand, but Ginobili's stat line changes slightly:

1 block
2 off. reb.
3 field goals
4+ def. reb.
5 3pt made
6 steals
7 assists
8 free throws

[thekingrobert]

im guessing rod strickland and SJax

[jaffies]

im guessing rod strickland and SJax

If you were gonna guess after the answer was given, it least guess right.

[whottt]

If you are just arranging the stats 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,8 and including 3 pointers I'd say David Robinson probably had 15 or 20 such games in his career....he probably had 8 or 9 of them in the 93-94 season.

The RB, FTA, FGA, Steal, Assist and Block totals are typical Drob numbers...it's only the 3 pointers that are hard to come by for him, and he made 25 or so of those in his career...although I don't don't believe he ever made 2 of them in game.

So for starters I'd look at every game in which Drob made a 3 pointer and you can probably find a similar statline.

Dude was pretty much an unmatched statistical freak when it came to that sort of thing, with the only other Centers in that area consistently being Hakeem and Kareem.


Larry Bird, Shawn Marion, CWebb, Garnett and Dirk would be my other candidates for similar type games...


Oh yeah one other guy...Robert Horry, it wouldn't suprise me if he had a quite a few of those types of games when he was with the Rockets.


But anyway...I'd look at any game in which Drob made a 3 pointer, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a statline like that in every game in which he made a 3.

[whottt]

Just clicking on a random game from Drob in the 93-94 season I get this result:


1- 3FG
2st
2ORB
5bl
6as
11fg
13DRB
16FT

So he was like 1 ORB from pulling it off, and he shattered the other numbers in 3 other categories...and that was just on the first game he hit a 3 that season that I found.

That was a typical Drob game for that season(aside from the 3, and there were 10 of those that season)...to put it in perspective, in that season he averaged:


1.74 SPG
3.00 ORBG
3.31 BPG
4.8 APG
@8 FTG
@10 FGG
10.31 DRBG


So basically he was about a 3rd of a steal and .8- 3FG from averaging this stat feat for the entire season.

[GSH]

If you are just arranging the stats 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,8 and including 3 pointers I'd say David Robinson probably had 15 or 20 such games in his career....he probably had 8 or 9 of them in the 93-94 season.

Just clicking on a random game from Drob in the 93-94 season I get this result:

So basically he was about a 3rd of a steal and .8- 3FG from averaging this stat feat for the entire season.


I assumed that David didn't shoot enough 3's, so I didn't look that closely. Even so, he didn't do it as many times as you might think.

David did it 3 times - on: 3-29-94, 2-18-96, and 1-4-92. The last one is a stat line that only David could have put up: 1 3P, 2 ST, 3 AST, 4 FT, 5 2p FG, 7 BLK, 8 ORB, 8 DRB. Turns out, the minimum number of points to complete the cycle is 17. That's how many he had. [Edit: technically, it could be done with 10 points. 1 3P, 2 2P FG, 3 FT's.]




Oh yeah one other guy...Robert Horry, it wouldn't suprise me if he had a quite a few of those types of games when he was with the Rockets.



Horry is they guy I expected to have done it multiple times. I already posted that he did it once, and came close a few other times. But that's all.

And I actually thought Sean would have had at least a couple, because he got the blocks and ORB's often enough. But he never got the whole thing in a single game.

When you start talking about guys "coming close" you realize just how hard it is to get them all, because there aren't really even that many close calls. Believe it or not, one Spur that has "come close" is Ime.

[exstatic]

(1+)1 three-pointers
(2+)1 steals
(3+)3 block
(4+)5 assists
(5+)6 offensive rebounds
(6+)7 free throws
(7+)9 defensive rebounds
(8+)15 two-point FGs

Timmy's masterpiece against Phoenix in round one of the playoffs last year. He missed by a steal.

[fotan2]

could it be matt bonner :lol

[Galileo]

Awesome research!

We gotta get this info to Monroe or Stephen A Smith, give them something to write about!

[GSH]

Okay, it may be a made-up stat, but it's still a stat. So which player do you think is the king of the Octuple Cycle? I bet you'll be surprised.

First, here are how some other legendary players have done:

Michael Jorday - 4
David Robinson - 3
Clyde Drexler - 3
Larry Bird - 2
Jason Kidd - 2
Dirk Nowitzki - 2
Kevin Garnett - 2
Tim Duncan - 1
Reggie Miller - 1
Magic Johnson - 0 (Surprised?)

But the player who has had the most (that I could find), and by far the most near-misses? Scottie Pippin did it 6 times. And there were at leat 9 times that all he was short was FT's. There was another game on 3-9-02 where he had:
1 ST
2 BL
3 3P
4 ORB
5 AST
6 DRB
7 FT
9 FG

At first I thought it was almost a perfect 1-8 line. But 3 of those FG's were 3-pointers, so he really only had 6 2-point FG's. Still a pretty cool looking line.

If the necessary stats exist for guys like Bill Russel, I don't know who has them. But for guys in the "modern era", I don't think anyone is going to stack up against Scottie Pippin. If he had gotten to the line more, or shot FT's a little better, he would easily have 10+ of these games. But the 6 that he did have are enough.

[Galileo]

Okay, it may be a made-up stat, but it's still a stat. So which player do you think is the king of the Octuple Cycle? I bet you'll be surprised.

First, here are how some other legendary players have done:

Michael Jorday - 4
David Robinson - 3
Clyde Drexler - 3
Larry Bird - 2
Jason Kidd - 2
Dirk Nowitzki - 2
Kevin Garnett - 2
Tim Duncan - 1
Reggie Miller - 1
Magic Johnson - 0 (Surprised?)

But the player who has had the most (that I could find), and by far the most near-misses? Scottie Pippin did it 6 times. And there were at leat 9 times that all he was short was FT's. There was another game on 3-9-02 where he had:
1 ST
2 BL
3 3P
4 ORB
5 AST
6 DRB
7 FT
9 FG

At first I thought it was almost a perfect 1-8 line. But 3 of those FG's were 3-pointers, so he really only had 6 2-point FG's. Still a pretty cool looking line.

If the necessary stats exist for guys like Bill Russel, I don't know who has them. But for guys in the "modern era", I don't think anyone is going to stack up against Scottie Pippin. If he had gotten to the line more, or shot FT's a little better, he would easily have 10+ of these games. But the 6 that he did have are enough.

Good research.

Where did you find the data?

[Galileo]

Okay, it may be a made-up stat, but it's still a stat. So which player do you think is the king of the Octuple Cycle? I bet you'll be surprised.

First, here are how some other legendary players have done:

Michael Jorday - 4
David Robinson - 3
Clyde Drexler - 3
Larry Bird - 2
Jason Kidd - 2
Dirk Nowitzki - 2
Kevin Garnett - 2
Tim Duncan - 1
Reggie Miller - 1
Magic Johnson - 0 (Surprised?)

But the player who has had the most (that I could find), and by far the most near-misses? Scottie Pippin did it 6 times. And there were at leat 9 times that all he was short was FT's. There was another game on 3-9-02 where he had:
1 ST
2 BL
3 3P
4 ORB
5 AST
6 DRB
7 FT
9 FG

At first I thought it was almost a perfect 1-8 line. But 3 of those FG's were 3-pointers, so he really only had 6 2-point FG's. Still a pretty cool looking line.

If the necessary stats exist for guys like Bill Russel, I don't know who has them. But for guys in the "modern era", I don't think anyone is going to stack up against Scottie Pippin. If he had gotten to the line more, or shot FT's a little better, he would easily have 10+ of these games. But the 6 that he did have are enough.

did you find any correlation between getting a Octuple cycle and winning the game?

[Galileo]

Hakeem 1-10-94 (rockets lose)

1 three
3 steals
3 o-boards
5 blocks
5 assists
7 free throws
8 twos
8 d-boards

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199401100ORL.html

Hakeem 4-7-94 near miss (had a triple-double & rockets win)

1 three
4 blocks
5 steals
5 o-boards
8 d-boards
10 assists
11 twos
only 1 FT

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199404070HOU.html

Playoff Octuple Cycle

Hakeem 5-1-94 (rockets win)

1 three
2 o-boards
4 steals
4 assists
6 blocks
6 d-boards
13 free throws
15 twos

this was a fantasic game, his best of the season by gamescore. Had 46 points, but only 8 rebounds.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl.cgi?player=olajuha01&year=1994

[spurtech09]

Octuple Cycle? is that like some kind of exercising machine???

[spurtech09]

:)loljk