Spurs vs. Cavaliers April 5 - Game Blog

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[AceProfits]

:lol at Tirico....man do they have shooters out there. Shut the fuck up jackass.

ahahahah that is so funny they sound gay!

[crc21209]

Manu only with 23 mins and TD only with 25 mins isnt going to cut it. Obviously Pop could care less about the reg. season.

[TampaDude]

Bowen missing that easy lay up was painful...

also Pop benching manu is stupid. Manu is a 4th quarter guy.

Yeah, really...because if Bowen had made that layup, the Spurs would only lose this game by 13 instead of 15... :lol

[peskypesky]

bowen doesn't do much to earn minutes though. how could he miss this layup after tony's assist ?????

you think maybe he's rusty after sitting on the bench the whole fucking season?

[Supergirl]

timmy needs touches...did we forget that he's out there?

Yeah, I am a little disturbed he's only had 6 shot attempts. WTF? Spurs have been playing Suns-style offense too much today - jacking up quick shots.

[kace]

You are more ridiculous man

I don't think it was good.It was not too bad if you think he's hurt and he onnly was played 22 minutes.If KT do that numbers we would say he's playing well.TD isn't playing well but it's not only his fault.

:rollin

[BUMP]

was that a replay?

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[Bulwark]

nail in coffin

[Horse]

Everytime we make a run they hit a shot the should'nt hit. I just don't like how uncomfortable everyone looks out there. A product of Pop s never ending rotation experiment.

[Mugen]

tough to be a spurs fan right now.

i have to constantly remind myself that at least im not a mavs fan or something

[Josepatches_]

And Why TD don't touch the ball?

[Bulwark]

Tim holding knee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brazil]

+17 pts and lbj still there...

[Spurs Brazil]

Manu is upset

[jdev82]

fml

[Borosai]

This game deserves a big COCK!

[TampaDude]

No shame in losing on the road to the eventual 2009 NBA Champions... :toast

[TinTin]

duncan did his job there except we had bowen to take the shot

[Capt Bringdown]

Team is simply wrecked.

[BUMP]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

[45 bank shot]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!33333333333333333333!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what are u so happy about?
ur team prolly can't even make the playoffs

[Mal]

shame

[Horse]

I rarely do it but I'm turning off the tv. Good day everyone. I'm going to watch some porn.

[crc21209]

Kinda hard to win in Cleveland when you play Vaughn over Hill, Ime and Fin on LeBron over Bowen, and the refs treat the Cavs like Utah-East.

[Spursmania]

Pop should just take out Parker.

[SpursFan0728]

fuck me

[024]

why is parker still on the court?

[Josepatches_]

Great D and great shot by TP

[lefty]

Parker in garbage time?

WTF Pop

[024]

nvm

[Spursmania]

Pretty sad.

[Death In June]

Well, fuck, this team is garbage. Pop has ruined them on two fronts, horrible shit for brains coaching and a craptacular front office. We could have had artest this past off season, the rotations could have some sort of logic behind them, he could of managed hill and mason better. He just all around bent us over and took it to us this season.

[Brazil]

Pop should just take out Parker.

[TinTin]

finally had to foul to get himself out

[BUMP]

Parker with the strong finish!!!!!!

[duncan228]

Duncan not healthy. That doesn't bode well no matter what else is going on with this team.

[lefty]

Hey remember 2007

They swept us in the reg season

But we swept them in the FInals

[peskypesky]

The fact that Duncan's knees are shot is bad. But Gooden could make up for some of that if Pop started him.

I think a line-up of TP, Manu, Bowen, Gooden and Duncan could still be very effective. Or maybe start Mason and have Manu off the bench.

[Josepatches_]

+17 pts and lbj still there...


Parker too

[Supergirl]

OK, Pop has officially thrown in the towel today. 4 min left, 18 pts down, Park, Duncan and Manu all out.

Spurs are rarely gonna win with Manu and Tim scoring only 10 pts. That's the game right there. I don't know why it happened, but that's why they lost this game.

[peskypesky]

No shame in losing on the road to the eventual 2009 NBA Champions... :toast

we're not playing the Lakers today.

[Brazil]

Why letting TP 40 mn on this game ?? why ? it was over in the third put Hill and see what happen

[VaSpursFan]

I rarely do it but I'm turning off the tv. Good day everyone. I'm going to watch some porn.

:lol:lol:toast

[Josepatches_]

Parker in garbage time?

WTF Pop


Playing for his stats too

[AceProfits]

lol what a freak show of a game!

manu was cold all day so Pop benched him in the fourth quarter???? this is the same coach that plays findog 30 minutes countless times and the guy is always 1-9, 2-11, 1-8??? hahahah
this is quite comical. Obviously Pop is a drunk!

[Allanon]

Well I tried to keep up the faith til the end but this is garbage time now.

Spurs just couldn't snap out of their shooting funk. Putting in JV in the 2nd quarter got Mo Williams going.

Tim and Manu having a bad game pretty much sealed it along with the JV sub.

[Borosai]

I guess the can of SPAM has finally expired. Too many negatives too even worry about it.

[Spursmania]

:pctoss

[BUMP]

put Duncan back in

[TinTin]

The fact that Duncan's knees are shot is bad. But Gooden could make up for some of that if Pop started him.

I think a line-up of TP, Manu, Bowen, Gooden and Duncan could still be very effective. Or maybe start Mason and have Manu off the bench.

Nah, I think start mason because he cant do it like manu off the bench.

bench could be manu, hill, thomas, 2 other random guys

[TampaDude]

Hey remember 2007

They swept us in the reg season

But we swept them in the FInals

True, except for two things...

1. The Cavaliers are playing MUCH BETTER this year than in 2007.

2. The Spurs are playing MUCH WORSE this year than in 2007.

Other than that... :lol

[Brazil]

Parker too

yeah and its stupid

[Spursmania]

Well I tried to keep up the faith til the end but this is garbage time now.

Spurs just couldn't snap out of their shooting funk. Putting in JV in the 2nd quarter got Mo Williams going.

Tim and Manu having a bad game pretty much sealed it along with the JV sub.
Another excellently coached game. Thanks Pop.:rolleyes

[Mugen]

anybody whos been watching for the last month shouldnt be surprised by this at all.

duncan228 was right when she said that combo of spurs play/early game/cavs losing 2 in a row = blowout.

i just hope we can beat OKC. i'm actually scared of OKC

[crc21209]

OK guys heres the problems....and hopefully BY NOW Pop was realized the shit he has done. Vaughn is DONE. Udoka should not be playing. Bowen should get his spot back. No way are we going to win a game with Manu playing 23 mins, going 2-9, and 0-6 from 3 and TD shooting 2-7 in only 25 mins. Bright spot of the game: Gooden. More Gooden and Thomas, less Bonner.

[Quiet Strength]

OK, Pop has officially thrown in the towel today. 4 min left, 18 pts down, Park, Duncan and Manu all out.

Spurs are rarely gonna win with Manu and Tim scoring only 10 pts. That's the game right there. I don't know why it happened, but that's why they lost this game.


Spurs lost because of pop. Simple as that.

[kace]

Playing for his stats too

as if he was the one who choose how much he plays :bang

[peskypesky]

Duncan's days as a consistent offensive force are probably over, so we need Gooden in there a LOT.

[Obstructed_View]

Funny, they finally get the lineup they should be starting on the floor (Parker, Mason, Bowen, Duncan, Gooden) and they go to this weird zoneish defense where they just chase whoever has the ball with two defenders. How does Delonte West end up with two wide open threes because you were running a soft double team on Boobie Gibson?

[BUMP]

LMAO at these commentators sucking off the Cavs so much. they did it in the dallas game too

[Duncan2177]

This team is playing weak and pathetic horrible basketball, Pop better get his head out of his ass and light a fire under his players asses and have this team ready when the playoffs are here in a couple of weeks if not our goose is cooked.

[Capt Bringdown]

Spurs just couldn't snap out of their shooting funk. Putting in JV in the 2nd quarter got Mo Williams going.

Tim and Manu having a bad game pretty much sealed it along with the JV sub.

Agreed, that was the turning point.

[Yogurt210]

UDOKA suxks sooo bad

[Chomag]

Spurs were a much better team earlyer in the season. that was untill dun, dun, dun Pop's mad man games...

[TampaDude]

we're not playing the Lakers today.

That's right...we're playing the Cavaliers...the soon-to-be 2009 NBA Champs! :toast

[ElNono]

Nah, I think start mason because he cant do it like manu off the bench.

bench could be manu, hill, thomas, 2 other random guys

Hill is not playing meaningful minutes anymore. Bonner is a lock for starting.
Drill it in your head because that's what Pop is gonna do.

[Obstructed_View]

Putting in JV in the 2nd quarter got Mo Williams going.

It got West and Williams going. Sadly, this happened within minutes of Pop saying he was happy that Lebron scored 18 points in the first quarter because "nobody else is involved."

[TinTin]

why is vaughn even getting minutes here. just play 4 v 5

[Brazil]

only 2 spurs player with more than 10 pts

[VaSpursFan]

fuck...cleveland is shooting lights out...wow

[holcs50]

Sad sad sad. Sorry to be Debbie Downer because I always fight in arguments for my spurs against all these socal lakers fans-but we have NO chance in beating them this year...none. Shit, we can't even set a damn rotation 7 games from the playoffs! pathetic. Never have I felt a spurs team with such little identity at this point in the year. But hey maybe if we get some kind of a rotation so players no their roles and no ime vaught, and limited bonner to pull out big men then we might win a first round series.

[Manufan909]

Anyone else lose abc for 13 seconds?

[Yogurt210]

Wow udoka fucking sucks

[Cherry]

I'm scared

wtf is going on Spurs? :depressed

[Allanon]

It got West and Williams going. Sadly, this happened within minutes of Pop saying he was happy that Lebron scored 18 points in the first quarter because "nobody else is involved."

West too.

I'm not usually on JV's case but he was a major reason why the tide turned. Mo and West weren't doing jack until they saw JV and their eyes lit up.

[ElNono]

Mason reduced to garbage time player... good job Pop!

[Borosai]

Parker - Hill
Mason - Ginobili
Bowen - Finley (if more scoring is needed)
Duncan - Gooden
Thomas - Bonner

Fucking simple. Defense first. Use your young talent instead of banking on one-dimensional and inconsistent vets.

[Brazil]

From now I'll root for the cavs, I don't want to see another lakers ring and I don't to see KG with another too !! so let's go cavs !

[jdev82]

Fuck my life

[Spursmania]

Mason plays well in scrub time. lol...

[Yogurt210]

UDOKA HAS NO DRIVE or FINISH

[alchemist]

Another excellently coached game. Thanks Pop.:rolleyes
you can't win if your HOF PF is playing like a scrub or if your HOF SG is sucking ass against the best team in the League :wakeup

[peskypesky]

Pop asking Mike Brown for a job.

[Brazil]

Mo and West weren't doing jack until they saw JV and their eyes lit up.

:lol

[Death In June]

Someone needs to punch pop in the face if he says "we just missed shots" one more time. I think some cognitive function went with that carcinogenic growth. I'm not joking.

[jdev82]

the end to title hopes as we know them. we may not leave the first round.

[anonoftheinternets]

that's right...we're playing the cavaliers...the soon-to-be 2009 nba champs! :toast

+1

[Spursmania]

Get ready for the haters.

[TinTin]

fuck if wizards can do it then why not spurs >_<

[silk]

the sad thing is ; this blow-out probably won't even make pop think a little

he will probably think they lose because manu and timmy were bad ( which is somewhat right) and not think about his rotation and his coaching....

[Brazil]

Get ready for the haters.

yeah its going to be painful

[BUMP]

thats alright Spurfans. they will flip the switch, Timmy will find the fountain of youth, and their will be more Riverwalk Parades in June!!:lobt2::downspin:

[Spurs Brazil]

The way we're playing now we'd need a miracle to get out of the 1st round.

We're terrible now

[crc21209]

IT'S SIMPLE.

Starters: TP, Mason, Bowen, TD, Thomas or Gooden.

Bench: Hill, Manu, Finley, Gooden or Thomas (depending on who starts), and Bonner.

Absolutely NO Vaughn and NO Udoka.

[AceProfits]

guys everything comes to an end.. we are just witnessing the death of a great decade of Spurs basketball.. Hey we won four championships!!!!

[Manufan909]

Parker - Hill
Mason - Ginobili
Bowen - Finley (if more scoring is needed)
Duncan - Gooden
Thomas - Bonner

Fucking simple. Defense first. Use your young talent instead of banking on one-dimensional and inconsistent vets.

Vaughn is consistent, in that he sucks. And why he got over 3x the minutes Hill did, no one but Pop understands.

If Manu continues to start, then keep Gooden in the 2nd unit(he's been so efficient as a Spur it's unreal). He likes to score, which wouldn't work with all the Big 3 on as well.

Well Bowen got 17 minutes, so half my wishes for this game came true.

EDIT: And lol at Hill being the only pos in the +/- stat. Another reason why that stat blows chunks, Gooden and TP should've been the only positives this game.

[peskypesky]

all I can hope is that Pop's lack of concern for the regular season is the explanation for all this. i'll try to refrain from bashing him any more til I see what he does in the playoffs. if he shortens the rotation and puts his best players on the court in the post-season, then we still have a fighting chance. like buster douglas against mike tyson.

[crc21209]

Spurs stuck with the Cavs for the 1st, 3rd, and 4th qtrs. They lost this game in the 2nd qtr. Only scored 15 compared to the Cavs 27.

[TinTin]

I just hope duncan retires before coming off the bench

[Capt Bringdown]

If JV was the answer at backup PG, why didn't he get minutes during bulk of the season?

Madness.
I hate trendy internet speak, but the phrase "Epic Fail" describes Pop to a T.

[Chomag]

the sad thing is ; this blow-out probably won't even make pop think a little

he will probably think they lose because manu and timmy were bad ( which is somewhat right) and not think about his rotation and his coaching....
Nope, he thinks we just didn't hit shots.

[alchemist]

the sad thing is ; this blow-out probably won't even make pop think a little

he will probably think they lose because manu and timmy were bad ( which is somewhat right) and not think about his rotation and his coaching....
Pop is playing with the cards he was delt, got Ginobili back with 10 games to go and is trying to create a lineup (and chemistry) on the fly, I want to know who in the hell can do that with 10 games, please someone show me an example.

[crc21209]

Well Jazz-Hornets tonight: Go Jazz.

And Blazers-Rockets tonight: Blazers have 27 losses, Rox have 28...Portland is on our ass for 3rd, but the Rox are in our division...hmmm who to go for?

[Chomag]

Pop is playing with the cards he was delt, got Ginobili back with 10 games to go and is trying to create a lineup (and chemistry) on the fly, I want to know who in the hell can do that with 10 games, please someone show me an example.

Welcome to the forums Pop. I know it's you becuase only Pop would post all the time in bold letters.

[Manufan909]

Spurs stuck with the Cavs for the 1st, 3rd, and 4th qtrs. They lost this game in the 2nd qtr. Only scored 15 compared to the Cavs 27.

16-23 in the 4th is almost as bad, they only had 2 quarters, and none where they scored more.

[TinTin]

should have kept bonnar and manu on bench, mason is too young to be just toyed like that

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I can't believe any of you would really pull the ref card in this one. We had more free throws than the cavs.

[alchemist]

Welcome to the forums Pop.
suck my cock (if your a female of course) :toast

[crc21209]

16-23 in the 4th is almost as bad, they only had 2 quarters, and none where they scored more.

It was 23-18. A hell of a lot better than 27-15.

[Death In June]

Fuck that end of an era talk. This team can be fixed. People fully recover from tendonosis. Ginobli was getting into a groove right before his recent injury (remember how long it took him to adapt, it's going to take a few more games). Artest and Rasheed will be available this off season, replacing Bonner and Bowen. Finely and KT will probably be gone as well, freeing up space for a youth movement.

[Obstructed_View]

West too.

I'm not usually on JV's case but he was a major reason why the tide turned. Mo and West weren't doing jack until they saw JV and their eyes lit up.

I've been a big JV defender on this site, and I'm probably one of the first people to suggest that Pop use him as the backup point guard when Mason was looking so bad.

That said, Pop brought in JV and he wasn't even running the point! Why in the name of God and Sonny Jeebus would he do that? We know Hill can play defense, and he shoots at least as well as Vaughn does. What's worse is that he called timeout and DIDN'T TAKE HIM OUT.

[Manufan909]

I can't believe any of you would really pull the ref card in this one. We took, and made, as many free throws as the cavs.

fify

[jdev82]

i hope jon barry goddamn dies

[bigdog]

Well.....fuck.

I'd like to know where Finley was. he hit a couple of shots, then Pop didn't play him again. Instead, he decides to use Udoka and Bowen who couldn't hit the water if they pissed off a boat, and instead of using Hill at PG, he uses JV, who just isn't very effective these days. Gooden was one of the best players tonight, and Pop stopped using him on offense too. There was no way they were going to play good defense tonight, but Pop could have at least provided some hope with an offensive lineup.

[Manufan909]

It was 23-18. A hell of a lot better than 27-15.

Stupid yahoosports, didn't refresh itself enough, even when it said final.:bang

[crc21209]

Well.....fuck.

I'd like to know where Finley was. he hit a couple of shots, then Pop didn't play him again. Instead, he decides to use Udoka and Bowen who couldn't hit the water if they pissed off a boat, and instead of using Hill at PG, he uses JV, who just isn't very effective these days. Gooden was one of the best players tonight, and Pop stopped using him on offense too. There was no way they were going to play good defense tonight, but Pop could have at least provided some hope with an offensive lineup.

Bowen and Finley > Udoka

Gooden and Thomas > Bonner

Vaughn and Udoka should be getting ZERO minutes.

[Obstructed_View]

Well.....fuck.

I'd like to know where Finley was.

He had a front row seat while Lebron James scored 16 straight points in the first quarter. Too bad you missed it.

[Thomas82]

Fuck that end of an era talk. This team can be fixed. People fully recover from tendonosis. Ginobli was getting into a groove right before his recent injury (remember how long it took him to adapt, it's going to take a few more games). Artest and Rasheed will be available this off season, replacing Bonner and Bowen. Finely and KT will probably be gone as well, freeing up space for a youth movement.

I hope we can do something this summer. I want us to win another title or 2 before our big 3 breaks up.

[TampaDude]

From now I'll root for the cavs, I don't want to see another lakers ring and I don't to see KG with another too !! so let's go cavs !

When I was in the Team Choice store the other day, I noticed the LeBron James jerseys were hanging right next to the Manu Ginobili jerseys...must be a sign...I agree...FTL...go Cavs! :toast

[bigdog]

Fuck that end of an era talk. This team can be fixed. People fully recover from tendonosis. Ginobli was getting into a groove right before his recent injury (remember how long it took him to adapt, it's going to take a few more games). Artest and Rasheed will be available this off season, replacing Bonner and Bowen. Finely and KT will probably be gone as well, freeing up space for a youth movement.

Yeah because the Spurs can afford Artest and Wallace, right? Also, Bonner is under contract, Finley has a player option and will likely stay, and KT is under contract, too. Unless you want to buyout all of those contracts for the Spurs, absolutely nothing you said will ever happen....maybe Rasheed, but that's it.

[Allanon]

That said, Pop brought in JV and he wasn't even running the point! Why in the name of God and Sonny Jeebus would he do that? We know Hill can play defense, and he shoots at least as well as Vaughn does. What's worse is that he called timeout and DIDN'T TAKE HIM OUT.

I couldn't believe it either when JV was STILL IN after that timeout. I thought they called the timeout to get Hill in.

Disappointing loss to be sure but it's not the end yet, still believe in the Spurs.

I'm out to drink some beers, enjoy the rest of your Sunday guys.

[TinTin]

Fuck that end of an era talk. This team can be fixed. People fully recover from tendonosis. Ginobli was getting into a groove right before his recent injury (remember how long it took him to adapt, it's going to take a few more games). Artest and Rasheed will be available this off season, replacing Bonner and Bowen. Finely and KT will probably be gone as well, freeing up space for a youth movement.


I think KT is doing an okay job coming off the bench both on offense and defence

[bigdog]

He had a front row seat while Lebron James scored 16 straight points in the first quarter. Too bad you missed it.

Sure, but he is also a hell of alot better than the scrub Udoka, who decided to show up for a game or two this season, then he took a vacation again.

[Obstructed_View]

Bowen and Finley > Udoka

Gooden and Thomas > Bonner

Vaughn and Udoka should be getting ZERO minutes.

Bowen should be starting, Finley should be filling in when the liability that is his defense isn't as glaring, and Udoka should be scanning the want ads.

Gooden should be starting, Thomas should be coming in for spurts and using up his fouls. Bonner, while pretty good all-around, can't buy a call for the life of him and just costs the team opportunities, whether or not it's his fault.

If this game isn't Vaughn's swan song in the Spurs rotation, the coach needs a CAT scan.

[EricB]

Doesn't help with two of the big three go 3 of 14.

That being said, its encouraging that Bowen got the majority of the minutes in the second half over Finley.

[Manufan909]

Fuck that end of an era talk. This team can be fixed. People fully recover from tendonosis. Ginobli was getting into a groove right before his recent injury (remember how long it took him to adapt, it's going to take a few more games). Artest and Rasheed will be available this off season, replacing Bonner and Bowen. Finely and KT will probably be gone as well, freeing up space for a youth movement.

1) Spurs won't get both, I don't think Artest is a great pickup, and I'd rather have Gooden if he does this in the POs.

2) Neither Bowen nor Bonner expire as far as I'm aware, it's only Ime and Fab who aren't guaranteed, which fits what you want anyways.

3) Fin will mostly likely play next season, it's his choice. I hope he decides to retire, but I doubt it, cuz it'd be too awesome to have only Gist/Hairston/Bowen at sf.

4) I want KT to stay, a big rotation of Tim/Gooden/Ian/KT/Bonner looks nice to me.

[Death In June]

I'm not giving up on the spurs, but if I had to root for another team, it wouldn't be the cavs. I'd rather see the Jazz win, or the Rockets. I honestly cant stand very many NBA teams (as opposed to the NFL).

[bigdog]

Doesn't help with two of the big three go 3 of 14.

That being said, its encouraging that Bowen got the majority of the minutes in the second half over Finley.

I liked that Bowen played alot, too, but the lineups he was in were just horrible.

[EricB]

Bowen should be starting, Finley should be filling in when the liability that is his defense isn't as glaring, and Udoka should be scanning the want ads.

Gooden should be starting, Thomas should be coming in for spurts and using up his fouls. Bonner, while pretty good all-around, can't buy a call for the life of him and just costs the team opportunities, whether or not it's his fault.

If this game isn't Vaughn's swan song in the Spurs rotation, the coach needs a CAT scan.

Agreed.

My starting 5 would be

Parker
Mason
Bowen
Gooden
Duncan

Ginobili
Bonner
thomas
Finley bench



I could see it happening.

Encouraging though to see Mason want to shoot the ball in the second half.

Hopefully he keeps that up and then the shots will fall.

[EricB]

I liked that Bowen played alot, too, but the lineups he was in were just horrible.


:lol

sigh

[Death In June]

Yeah because the Spurs can afford Artest and Wallace, right? Also, Bonner is under contract, Finley has a player option and will likely stay, and KT is under contract, too. Unless you want to buyout all of those contracts for the Spurs, absolutely nothing you said will ever happen....maybe Rasheed, but that's it.Rasheed and Artest can be had for cheap. Artest has a contract worth about 9 million, Rasheed's is the same. That's the price of adding one Vince Carter, which we were planning on doing. I thought Bonner was only partially guaranteed. And I was banking on Finely and KT retiring. They're 37 years old. And do people really think Bowen will be here next year?

[Obstructed_View]

Sure, but he is also a hell of alot better than the scrub Udoka, who decided to show up for a game or two this season, then he took a vacation again.

I'll grant that he's better than Udoka, but there's no way to suggest that's saying anything significant. Pop took Finley out and put him back in (during the aforementioned 'JV getting torched' timeout) BEFORE Bowen ever made an appearance. Starting Finley at the three when you know Lebron James is looking to make a statement is just inexplicable.

[Manufan909]

Agreed.

My starting 5 would be

Parker
Mason
Bowen
Gooden
Duncan

Ginobili
Bonner
thomas
Finley bench



I could see it happening.

Encouraging though to see Mason want to shoot the ball in the second half.

Hopefully he keeps that up and then the shots will fall.

No Hill love?

[bigdog]

All in all, I think the Spurs are just settling too much for jump shots. Ginobili and Mason are forcing shots, and Ginobili should be driving to the basket ALOT more than he is. I mean, obviously the Spurs would have had a much better chance if Duncan and Manu played decently, and Pop needs to seriously have the doctors look at his brain.

[EricB]

No Hill love?


Maybe.

But Hill's problem is hes very very green and All things considered I'd rather Ginobili run point than Vaughn.

Hill's foul near the end of the game against Indiana IMO sealed his fate.

One of the dumbest fouls I've seen since Parker fouled Rip Hamilton near the end of game 7 in 05.

[Obstructed_View]

Agreed.

My starting 5 would be

Parker
Mason
Bowen
Gooden
Duncan

Ginobili
Bonner
thomas
Finley bench



I could see it happening.

Encouraging though to see Mason want to shoot the ball in the second half.

Hopefully he keeps that up and then the shots will fall.

Hill HAS to be in the rotation, and he's going to have to play some point. He doesn't have to score, but he has to allow Mason and Manu to move without the ball.

[Budkin]

Embarrassing, pathetic, call it what you will... this team has 0 confidence right now and I'm not sure what the hell they're gonna do.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

The spurs new 4th quarter into at the ATT center should be this:


XAg5KjnAhuU


I think the juxtaposition of the serious final countdown song with the silliness and frability of the kazoo is good fit with how we're playing right now.

[Obstructed_View]

Doesn't help with two of the big three go 3 of 14.

Maybe you should be asking how Duncan and Ginobili only got 14 shots between them in 48 minutes.

[bigdog]

Maybe you should be asking how Duncan and Ginobili only got 14 shots between them in 48 minutes.

I think Duncan was being too unselfish when he had opportunities to do something on offense. After guys weren't hitting their shots, he should have gone in there and taken over.

[EricB]

Hill HAS to be in the rotation, and he's going to have to play some point. He doesn't have to score, but he has to allow Mason and Manu to move without the ball.


I agree, but I think that foul at the end of the game the other night sealed his fate.

[EricB]

Maybe you should be asking how Duncan and Ginobili only got 14 shots between them in 48 minutes.


Couldn't answer that.

You'd have to ask the individual players why they didn't shoot more.

Ginobili seemed to mail this one in from the beginning.

[Obstructed_View]

I agree, but I think that foul at the end of the game the other night sealed his fate.

Much like Nazr Mohammed's three. The old "cut off your nose" coaching philosophy strikes again.

[EricB]

I think Duncan was being too unselfish when he had opportunities to do something on offense. After guys weren't hitting their shots, he should have gone in there and taken over.

Ginobili needs to drive the fucking ball, this thinking he's Dale Ellis Bullshit has got to stop.

Duncan I can see why if his knees were hurting that he'd be passive.

Ginobili's unagression is very akin to 2007 before the playoffs started and seemed to last all through the playoffs until game 4 in Utah.

[Obstructed_View]

Couldn't answer that.

You'd have to ask the individual players why they didn't shoot more.

Ginobili seemed to mail this one in from the beginning.

I don't know about you, but if I'm the coach of a team and I want certain players to get the shots, I can make sure they get the shots.

[Obstructed_View]

Ginobili needs to drive the fucking ball, this thinking he's Dale Ellis Bullshit has got to stop.

Duncan I can see why if his knees were hurting that he'd be passive.

Ginobili's unagression is very akin to 2007 before the playoffs started and seemed to last all through the playoffs until game 4 in Utah.

I'll go back and watch the game again, but I'm pretty sure Manu was going quite aggressively to the basket in this game. They turned into a jump shooting team in the second quarter, but that was mostly due to the lineup on the floor.

[crc21209]

Some VERY VERY good things came out of todays loss:

1. Bowen got the most mins he has gotten in a long time. Hopefully he is back for good now.

2. Gooden looks pretty damn good and hopefully we see more of him and Thomas with TD, and less Bonner.

3. Manu and TD combined for what was it? 10 points. Not going to happen very often.

4. Hopefully Vaughn and Udoka are DONE...and are only used for garbage mins.

[TinTin]

Some VERY VERY good things came out of todays loss:

1. Bowen got the most mins he has gotten in a long time. Hopefully he is back for good now.

2. Gooden looks pretty damn good and hopefully we see more of him and Thomas with TD, and less Bonner.

3. Manu and TD combined for what was it? 10 points. Not going to happen very often.

4. Hopefully Vaughn and Udoka are DONE...and are only used for garbage mins.

And please use george hill and mason? You have to use them over vaughn >_<

[VaSpursFan]

The spurs new 4th quarter into at the ATT center should be this:


XAg5KjnAhuU


I think the juxtaposition of the serious final countdown song with the silliness and frability of the kazoo is good fit with how we're playing right now.

da hell...that's freaking hee-larry-us:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[EricB]

I don't know about you, but if I'm the coach of a team and I want certain players to get the shots, I can make sure they get the shots.


Plays get broken, players pass up shots.

Ya never know.

[EricB]

I'll go back and watch the game again, but I'm pretty sure Manu was going quite aggressively to the basket in this game. They turned into a jump shooting team in the second quarter, but that was mostly due to the lineup on the floor.


I'm sorry but, if the three point shot isn't going down after number 3, then its time to step in a few feet and try it there or go to the rack.

:pctoss

[anonoftheinternets]

The spurs new 4th quarter into at the ATT center should be this:


I think the juxtaposition of the serious final countdown song with the silliness and frability of the kazoo is good fit with how we're playing right now.

lol ur avatar moves perfectly to the song.....:lol

[silk]

Maybe pop has already decided on his play-off rotation

if this game is an indicator it would be;

duncan, matt, finley, manu, tony

drew and mason as the main subs

and kurt, bruce, vaughn as spot defensive role


If that's the case, Pop has almost nothing to do now but wait and hope timmy and manu gets healthier, and it seems it's what he's doing

We can still get on a roll and crush everybody in the april and may but the odds are well against us

[loveforthegame]

Finley couldn't guard Lebron but neither could Bowen, Ginobli, Mason, or Udoka. He can rise above everyone one of them and shoot right over the top. I thought Finley and Bowen did a good job of making him shoot jumpers but he's much improved in that area now.

Parker and Gooden were the only ones to play well and consistent.

Ginobli had some nice attacks to the basket but settled for too many 3s. I think he was 0-6?

Rotations sucked most the game. Parker and Mason left Williams and West in the corners too many times.

Duncan had no lift and it's painful to watch him struggle in the paint of have to settle for outside jumpers just to keep from getting pounded down low.

Mason was quiet most the game until hitting a couple jumpers in garbage minutes but it might help him get going again.

Pop needs to bench Vaughn and Udoka again. More Bowen and Hill are a must.

[E20]

Not that bad, only lost by 20.












































GOT DAMN

[Obstructed_View]

Finley couldn't guard Lebron but neither could Bowen, Ginobli, Mason, or Udoka. He can rise above everyone one of them and shoot right over the top. I thought Finley and Bowen did a good job of making him shoot jumpers but he's much improved in that area now.

Basketball is all about confidence. Lebron was clearly capable of scoring in bunches in 2007 like he did against Detroit, but Bowen was able to keep him from going off for the entire NBA finals. By the time Bowen came in today, Lebron had his shot and his game going thanks to 16 straight points on Finley in the first quarter. Same deal with Vaughn playing in the second quarter. By the time someone else came in to cover Williams and West, it was too late because they were shooting with confidence.

[SA210]

The spurs new 4th quarter into at the ATT center should be this:


XAg5KjnAhuU


I think the juxtaposition of the serious final countdown song with the silliness and frability of the kazoo is good fit with how we're playing right now.

:lmao x a Billion!

[Manufan909]

Maybe pop has already decided on his play-off rotation

if this game is an indicator it would be;

duncan, matt, finley, manu, tony

drew and mason as the main subs

and kurt, bruce, vaughn as spot defensive role


If that's the case, Pop has almost nothing to do now but wait and hope timmy and manu gets healthier, and it seems it's what he's doing

We can still get on a roll and crush everybody in the april and may but the odds are well against us

How anyone would put JV over Hill for D has spent too much time in his winery, sampling all the best years.

I want them to go 5-3 to end the season, so they need to be 4-2 the rest of the way. If Pop can have the rotation more or less set by Utah, I'll be content. But if they lose to Sac, that will be major cause for concern.:(

[Bruno]

Things haven't changed. Spurs need to be healthy to have a shot at a title.

Right now they aren't.
Duncan has troubles with his knee(s) and Pop isn't mentally healthy.

[Duncan2177]

That's fucking awesome!

OMG That is hilarious this version should be played at the at&t center.:lmao

[Duncan2177]

Things haven't changed. Spurs need to be healthy to have a shot at a title.

Right now they aren't.
Duncan has troubles with his knee(s) and Pop isn't mentally healthy.

Pop needs to lay off the wine.

[silk]

Yeah, three of our 4 "stars" ( parker, manu, timmy, pop) are not healthy, can they get it back in time ?

[Thomas82]

Yeah, three of our 4 "stars" ( parker, manu, timmy, pop) are not healthy, can they get it back in time ?

It's not looking good right now.

[Obstructed_View]

Well, at least I've got the scars of 2006 to prepare me for the Great Popovich Brain Melt '09. I'm out of here. See you guys next game. Maybe Vaughn will be starting by then!