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spursfan1000
04-05-2009, 01:00 PM
I DEMAND A NEW COACH ,POP IS GARBAGE. GET AVERY JOHNSON. what you guys think?

xtremesteven33
04-05-2009, 01:01 PM
at this point its not a far fetched idea.....seriously....

Biggems
04-05-2009, 01:09 PM
I DEMAND A NEW COACH ,POP IS GARBAGE. GET AVERY JOHNSON. what you guys think?

I think you are entitled to your opinion, even if it is unreasonable and ridiculous.

All of us are frustrated with how Pop has handled the rotations this year....but his track record for success speaks for itself. So while we are angry and bitter, as fans, who should we go get? I know, let's bring back Bob Weiss....how about Terry Porter....maybe Avery Johnson.....

The Spurs, even for all of their struggles, are currently the 3 seed in the Conference. Stop overreacting, take a chill pill, and relax.

Yogurt210
04-05-2009, 01:10 PM
yes, pop sucks

Pentagruel
04-05-2009, 01:21 PM
Overreaction. Pop has been a fantastic coach for a decade. Cause of one questionable regular season you want to fire him? You must be out of your mind...

I unfortunately can't know what Pop is thinking with his coaching decisions right now. What I do know is that Pop still wants to win another championship and that those decisions are aimed at that goal, even if they are not working as we would hope right now. As it stands we will probably finish second or third in the West and will burn out in the playoffs against the Lakers. With the squad we have I don't think you can expect much better from them. That's the reality.

SpursFan0728
04-05-2009, 01:22 PM
Pop will have to fire himself lol

Spurs Brazil
04-05-2009, 01:22 PM
I don't want a new coach. I just want the old Pop back

Yogurt210
04-05-2009, 01:23 PM
Pop has fucked up the mentality of our players. That my friend, is a no-no
So much potential but bad coaching.
Mason was a beast....now hes a scrub just jacking up crazy shots.
Hill had it going...but he said no to sucking pop's dick. so he benched him

NFGIII
04-05-2009, 01:25 PM
How soon people forget what he has done.

This year he doesn't have the players to fit his system as well as in the past. Matt Bonner our starting center? He doesn't fit into the twin tower concept and this team has really aged in the last two years. Pop is in a tough situaton and I really don't see Holt opening up the bank and going over the salary cap just to get Pop the type of players he wants.
This situation would have probably been if Splitter had come over rather than sign with Tau or at least maybe a healthy Ian. Who knows but it is what it is so we will have to live with more offensive firepower but less defensive prowness. Not exactly the style we've grown acccustomed to thats for sure. :depressed

spursfan1000
04-05-2009, 01:34 PM
I don't forget what he has done for the Spurs and the fans. But that is the past and this is the present. Over the past 12 games I believe we are 5-7 and I don't think this is going to end any time soon. Pop has lost it, we also need to get a younger coach for the future.

Udokafan05
04-05-2009, 01:35 PM
His plays still work, he just shows to much loyalty to veteran players like finley and vaughn.

Obstructed_View
04-05-2009, 01:37 PM
His plays still work? "Timmy, score in the post." "Tony, drive to the hoop." "Manu, make something happen."

When a coach says "We're just not making shots" when his offense is the reason the shots are low-percentage shots, it pretty much proves he's lost his grasp on what's happening.

ClingingMars
04-05-2009, 01:46 PM
no.

Borosai
04-05-2009, 01:48 PM
Not possible, but he needs to reassess what the fuck he's doing.

Brazil
04-05-2009, 01:51 PM
I don't want a new coach. I just want the old Pop back

SA210
04-05-2009, 01:55 PM
His plays still work? "Timmy, score in the post." "Tony, drive to the hoop." "Manu, make something happen."

When a coach says "We're just not making shots" when his offense is the reason the shots are low-percentage shots, it pretty much proves he's lost his grasp on what's happening.


:tu

And what the hell is that anyway? "We're not hitting our shots"

It used to be that he would say that us hitting our shots is something we have no control over, but we Do have control on how we play DEFENSE!!!!!

WTF happened??????? Pop sold out and became Don Nelson! :pctoss

Nathan Explosion
04-05-2009, 01:57 PM
You want to fire a coach who has the best winning percentage over the last decade because of a bad stretch of 12 games?

Since when did Spurs fans turn into whiny drama queens like Cowboys fans?

And yes I'm a fan of both team. Unfortunately I seem to be in the minority being level headed and all.

lefty
04-05-2009, 02:00 PM
Catch 22.

A. Has Pop gone really senile?
B. Or is he going CIA hardcore?

Either way, we are this close to lose HCA, and we can't afford to mess up with the rotations.


I think one of Pop's assistants need to challenge him.

Really

SA210
04-05-2009, 02:02 PM
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121778

SPURS vs NBA media
04-05-2009, 02:05 PM
AJ what a fucking joke he really SUCKS

lefty
04-05-2009, 02:06 PM
http://www.demotivationalpics.com/diy/demotiv_pic_3817-angry-hobo.jpg

Jace
04-05-2009, 02:08 PM
Obviously you don't fire him, he isn't doing a great job but at the same time he doesn't have a cast that can perform up to our expectations. The only player performing at a great level is Parker.. If Manu and Tim were healthy, Bowen was younger and Splitter had come over(might as well throw in Mahinmi being healthy) then Pop would look much smarter

jdev82
04-05-2009, 02:13 PM
His plays still work? "Timmy, score in the post." "Tony, drive to the hoop." "Manu, make something happen."

When a coach says "We're just not making shots" when his offense is the reason the shots are low-percentage shots, it pretty much proves he's lost his grasp on what's happening.

3 very good plays. made me lol. tim and manu arent what they were last year

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
04-05-2009, 02:17 PM
During the half when I saw this thread I was going to defend Pop...

now all I can say is...yes, new coach..

mudyez
04-05-2009, 02:20 PM
please don't overreact!

we can do some minor tweeks before we are firing pop!

how about buying out tim duncan?

if that doesn't work, we still can look at other things!


seriously: I'd like to see avery as pops successor...but not before we got our fifth ship!

rayray2k8
04-05-2009, 02:23 PM
You guys are morons..
Ya'll might as well pretend that we never won 4 championships. :rolleyes
Toughen up, you soft bitches.
Playoffs start next Saturday.

mudyez
04-05-2009, 02:24 PM
so its the right decition to fire the coach days before the PO's?

Nathan Explosion
04-05-2009, 02:25 PM
You guys are morons..
Ya'll might as well pretend that we never won 4 championships. :rolleyes
Toughen up, you soft bitches.
Playoffs start next Saturday.

Second that. We're not Cowboys fans. At least not right now.

sook
04-05-2009, 02:27 PM
Why fire a coach! Just trade him!...TO US!

Chomag
04-05-2009, 02:58 PM
I don't want a new coach. I just want the old Pop back
X1 :tu

EricB
04-05-2009, 03:01 PM
I'm just curious who should replace him?

houston spurs fan
04-05-2009, 03:03 PM
They got beat by a better team at home. What's inexcusable are the two losses to OKC. That shows a mentally weak team and that starts with the coach...However, his track record is what it is so it is way to early to demand a new coach.

superbigtime
04-05-2009, 03:09 PM
People give Pop way too much credit for the 4 championships. I give the credit to the players. We would have another championship if Pop hadn't screwed us in 06 with his small ball lineup against the Mavs. Even Pop would tell you that the team's success is because of Tim and Manu and Tony and supporting cast and that he's just the coach.

I do not want to see Avery as the Spurs coach. He's a screamer and players don't like him. I think Sean Elliott would be great but he doesn't want to coach because it's no fun.

EricB
04-05-2009, 03:11 PM
People give Pop way too much credit for the 4 championships. I give the credit to the players. We would have another championship if Pop hadn't screwed us in 06 with his small ball lineup against the Mavs. Even Pop would tell you that the team's success is because of Tim and Manu and Tony and supporting cast and that he's just the coach.

I do not want to see Avery as the Spurs coach. He's a screamer and players don't like him. I think Sean Elliott would be great but he doesn't want to coach because it's no fun.


:lmao :lmao


Please, kill yourself.

mouse
04-05-2009, 04:00 PM
This topic is a perfect example of ungrateful spoiled bandwagon fans. You know how many teams wish they had one NBA Championship ring? and yet you selfish salad tossing homos are pissed you don't have number five?

Now you know why I had to bail on the Spurs 7 years ago it wasn't Pop or the team it was the embarrassment of having to be part of your silly little bi-polar meltdowns after every loss!

And don't give me that lame ass reply about how message boards are for fans to vent and a real fan vents! A real fan keeps that shit inside and waits until deep in the playoffs to talk about coaching mistakes and a real fan waits until the season is over before he talks about replacing a coach or trading a player.

WTF are you all going to do if the Spurs go all the way? "oh wait I was only venting! I never really meant to get rid of pop yuk yuk!"

You sorry ass excuses for Spurs fans are not worthy of the rings you already have If your so passionate about Pop leaving or Avery Johnson sucks, then give back the rings or STFU!

If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.

mytespurs
04-05-2009, 04:12 PM
I DEMAND A NEW COACH ,POP IS GARBAGE. GET AVERY JOHNSON. what you guys think?


Nyet, no, negative.....sorry, I'm not ready to give up on Pop yet despite the lingering Spurs malaise. Pop has proven himself and hopefully he'll find the cure which ails this team...unfortunately, it may not be this season.

angel_luv
04-05-2009, 04:13 PM
No to Avery Johnson.
I am open to other suggestions though.

Suns Fan
04-05-2009, 04:15 PM
I DEMAND A NEW COACH ,POP IS GARBAGE. GET AVERY JOHNSON. what you guys think?


Why not just hide your lame ass under the name spursfan1001 or spursfan1002?

Laker Lanny
04-05-2009, 04:17 PM
If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.


^ that's some old school shit right there dawg! :tu

HarlemHeat37
04-05-2009, 04:26 PM
firing Pop would be one of the stupidest moves in NBA history..

he's fucking up a lot, but he's still the best coach in the NBA..

Pentagruel
04-05-2009, 04:31 PM
This topic is a perfect example of ungrateful spoiled bandwagon fans. You know how many teams wish they had one NBA Championship ring? and yet you selfish salad tossing homos are pissed you don't have number five?

Now you know why I had to bail on the Spurs 7 years ago it wasn't Pop or the team it was the embarrassment of having to be part of your silly little bi-polar meltdowns after every loss!

And don't give me that lame ass reply about how message boards are for fans to vent and a real fan vents! A real fan keeps that shit inside and waits until deep in the playoffs to talk about coaching mistakes and a real fan waits until the season is over before he talks about replacing a coach or trading a player.

WTF are you all going to do if the Spurs go all the way? "oh wait I was only venting! I never really meant to get rid of pop yuk yuk!"

You sorry ass excuses for Spurs fans are not worthy of the rings you already have If your so passionate about Pop leaving or Avery Johnson sucks, then give back the rings or STFU!

If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.


Hah... I actually agree with a Mavs fan here, sad as that may be in these circumstances. Half the Spurs' fans on these boards have absolutely no patience and no loyalty to anyone on the damn team. One bad loss and you panic. A stretch of bad losses and you wanna ditch a hall of fame coach? Despite the fact we have had an injury plagued season and are still the third seed in the west? This man is right; A real fan can control himself and wait till the season plays out before he makes his judgment, he doesn't throw everyone under the bus at the slightest struggle that inevitably occurs during the season.

DynastyBuilder
04-05-2009, 04:32 PM
http://www.demotivationalpics.com/diy/demotiv_pic_3817-angry-hobo.jpg

:rollin


This topic is a perfect example of ungrateful spoiled bandwagon fans. You know how many teams wish they had one NBA Championship ring? and yet you selfish salad tossing homos are pissed you don't have number five?

Now you know why I had to bail on the Spurs 7 years ago it wasn't Pop or the team it was the embarrassment of having to be part of your silly little bi-polar meltdowns after every loss!

And don't give me that lame ass reply about how message boards are for fans to vent and a real fan vents! A real fan keeps that shit inside and waits until deep in the playoffs to talk about coaching mistakes and a real fan waits until the season is over before he talks about replacing a coach or trading a player.

WTF are you all going to do if the Spurs go all the way? "oh wait I was only venting! I never really meant to get rid of pop yuk yuk!"

You sorry ass excuses for Spurs fans are not worthy of the rings you already have If your so passionate about Pop leaving or Avery Johnson sucks, then give back the rings or STFU!

If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.

+1000

Thanks mouse! :smokin

anonoftheinternets
04-05-2009, 04:39 PM
This topic is a perfect example of ungrateful spoiled bandwagon fans. You know how many teams wish they had one NBA Championship ring? and yet you selfish salad tossing homos are pissed you don't have number five?

Now you know why I had to bail on the Spurs 7 years ago it wasn't Pop or the team it was the embarrassment of having to be part of your silly little bi-polar meltdowns after every loss!

And don't give me that lame ass reply about how message boards are for fans to vent and a real fan vents! A real fan keeps that shit inside and waits until deep in the playoffs to talk about coaching mistakes and a real fan waits until the season is over before he talks about replacing a coach or trading a player.

WTF are you all going to do if the Spurs go all the way? "oh wait I was only venting! I never really meant to get rid of pop yuk yuk!"

You sorry ass excuses for Spurs fans are not worthy of the rings you already have If your so passionate about Pop leaving or Avery Johnson sucks, then give back the rings or STFU!

If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.

lol +1

TampaDude
04-05-2009, 04:43 PM
http://www.demotivationalpics.com/diy/demotiv_pic_3817-angry-hobo.jpg

:lol Haven't seen that pic in a while...it's a classic!

manufor3
04-05-2009, 04:43 PM
would this thread be up if we won?

manufor3
04-05-2009, 04:45 PM
This topic is a perfect example of ungrateful spoiled bandwagon fans. You know how many teams wish they had one NBA Championship ring? and yet you selfish salad tossing homos are pissed you don't have number five?

Now you know why I had to bail on the Spurs 7 years ago it wasn't Pop or the team it was the embarrassment of having to be part of your silly little bi-polar meltdowns after every loss!

And don't give me that lame ass reply about how message boards are for fans to vent and a real fan vents! A real fan keeps that shit inside and waits until deep in the playoffs to talk about coaching mistakes and a real fan waits until the season is over before he talks about replacing a coach or trading a player.

WTF are you all going to do if the Spurs go all the way? "oh wait I was only venting! I never really meant to get rid of pop yuk yuk!"

You sorry ass excuses for Spurs fans are not worthy of the rings you already have If your so passionate about Pop leaving or Avery Johnson sucks, then give back the rings or STFU!

If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.

this

Spooky
04-05-2009, 05:28 PM
Pop will be our coach no matter what happens in the playoffs. I still believe we can get it together in time to win it all. We may lose a few games bad in the PO though. It will be very similar to our series vs the Pistons. I still believe! :lobt2:

Chief
04-05-2009, 05:36 PM
all we need is pj back at assistant coach

Kori Ellis
04-05-2009, 05:39 PM
all we need is pj back at assistant coach

PJ is another person vastly overrated by Spurs fans.

Kori Ellis
04-05-2009, 05:44 PM
Spurs will have a 50+ win season with Manu Ginobili missing 30+ games, Tony Parker missing 10 games and Tim Duncan hobbling on hurt knees.

Pop is closer to winning Coach of the Year than he is to getting fired.

ATXSPUR
04-05-2009, 05:48 PM
Pop has been a great coach and I respect him for everything he has done...he along with Duncan made this franchise relavent. But, at this point it's time for him to go. If we hold on to him because of the past, then we are asking for trouble. That being said I love him for all the memories...it's been a good ride but it's over. It's almost time to blow this thing up. We all knew this time would have to come eventually.

timvp
04-05-2009, 05:53 PM
This topic is a perfect example of ungrateful spoiled bandwagon fans. You know how many teams wish they had one NBA Championship ring? and yet you selfish salad tossing homos are pissed you don't have number five?

Now you know why I had to bail on the Spurs 7 years ago it wasn't Pop or the team it was the embarrassment of having to be part of your silly little bi-polar meltdowns after every loss!

And don't give me that lame ass reply about how message boards are for fans to vent and a real fan vents! A real fan keeps that shit inside and waits until deep in the playoffs to talk about coaching mistakes and a real fan waits until the season is over before he talks about replacing a coach or trading a player.

WTF are you all going to do if the Spurs go all the way? "oh wait I was only venting! I never really meant to get rid of pop yuk yuk!"

You sorry ass excuses for Spurs fans are not worthy of the rings you already have If your so passionate about Pop leaving or Avery Johnson sucks, then give back the rings or STFU!

If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.

:lol

There's no way Pop should ever be fired. When he feels like leaving is when he should leave. Even with his questionable coaching the last few months, he's had the deck stacked against him since even before the season started. I trust that he's doing what he thinks gives the team the best shot at a championship.

If he's still starting Finley and using Vaughn as the backup point guard a decade from now, then maybe a discussion about his job could be in order. Until then, there's no doubt the Spurs are in the best possible hands.

Fabbs
04-05-2009, 05:53 PM
Pat Riley took over for seemingly irreplaceable coaches during a season twice and titled.
The most recent being 2006s year of the Poppycock smallball loss to Dallas.

If Riley could become coach of the Spurs tommorow I'd jump at the chance.

Fernando TD21
04-05-2009, 06:20 PM
The old Pop:
zkveBhqg8Rk
(start watching at the 5:50 mark)

Bulwark
04-05-2009, 06:25 PM
Spurs will have a 50+ win season with Manu Ginobili missing 30+ games, Tony Parker missing 10 games and Tim Duncan hobbling on hurt knees.

Pop is closer to winning Coach of the Year than he is to getting fired.

+1. How quickly people lose perspective. I was trying to say the exact same thing the other day. With the injuries, I think the season has progressed fairly well.

peskypesky
04-05-2009, 06:26 PM
I'll see what Pop does in the playoffs. But if he continues to coach with his ass, then let's get Avery.

xtremesteven33
04-05-2009, 06:31 PM
:lol

There's no way Pop should ever be fired. When he feels like leaving is when he should leave. Even with his questionable coaching the last few months, he's had the deck stacked against him since even before the season started. I trust that he's doing what he thinks gives the team the best shot at a championship.

If he's still starting Finley and using Vaughn as the backup point guard a decade from now, then maybe a discussion about his job could be in order. Until then, there's no doubt the Spurs are in the best possible hands.



Ive been defending Pop for IDK how long now but his coaching these past couple weeks has just been dissapointing and hard to defend. Hes seems more stubborn and carless about his coaching than just not knowing what to do. If he isnt teaching defense like he used to hes not coming up with any new offensive schemes either.

I love Pop as a coach but it seems as though he has lost his edge.:(

HarlemHeat37
04-05-2009, 06:34 PM
Pop is definitely fucking up right now..but if he was fired in the off-season(which he won't be), there would be at least 25 other teams trying to get him, and he'd probably receive the highest paying contract for a coach in NBA history..

Fabbs
04-05-2009, 06:41 PM
:lol

There's no way Pop should ever be fired. When he feels like leaving is when he should leave. Even with his questionable coaching the last few months, he's had the deck stacked against him since even before the season started. I trust that he's doing what he thinks gives the team the best shot at a championship.

If he's still starting Finley and using Vaughn as the backup point guard a decade from now, then maybe a discussion about his job could be in order. Until then, there's no doubt the Spurs are in the best possible hands.
Is Pop well aware of this very enabling attitude that ensures mediocrity for the next 10?

Yes. Except he'll coatail off when Tims gone.

I will buy mouse the most expensive dinner in Texas to be eaten off the abs of the hottest chick in Texas should Cementovich title this year.

Spursmania
04-05-2009, 07:03 PM
I don't want a new coach. I just want the old Pop back

superbigtime
04-05-2009, 07:05 PM
:lmao :lmao


Please, kill yourself.

go fuck yourself.

de Soto
04-05-2009, 07:23 PM
I DEMAND A NEW COACH ,POP IS GARBAGE. GET AVERY JOHNSON. what you guys think?

Eat shit.

Pop is still the best coach in the NBA. The crew is just over the hill and quickly falling apart. Even the best are allowed an error in judgment every now and then.

exstatic
04-05-2009, 07:42 PM
People give Pop way too much credit for the 4 championships. I give the credit to the players. We would have another championship if Pop hadn't screwed us in 06 with his small ball lineup against the Mavs. Even Pop would tell you that the team's success is because of Tim and Manu and Tony and supporting cast and that he's just the coach.

So...Pop doesn't deserve the credit then, but he deserves the blame now?

Can't have it both ways. If it was all the players then, it's all the players now.

ulosturedge
04-05-2009, 07:57 PM
You guys are blaming this shit on Pop? You guys are seriously fishing for excuses if thats the case. You guys think there is a magical rotation that gonna change us from losers to complete winners huh lol. Oh yeah I forgot just put in 37 year old Bruce Bowen and suddenly we are bound for the finals. Wake up! Internally its our personnel. No 2nd tall big man to help cover the rim, no defensive stopper to lockdown the star on the other team(sorry Bruce time to pass the torch), most of our ppl are a half step slower due to age/injury or a combination of the two.

In otherwords we have no defensive presence. Mason's D is garbage, Finley's D is garbage, Bonner's D is garbage, Duncan's D is hampered by injury and has no support, Kurt has good D but lacks height and length to help on switches, Bruce losing a step has made his defense practically nul and void, Manu is still not back to form and Parker has never been a great defender. I could go on..

Externally you guys have to face the damn fact that the rest of the league has caught on to what it takes to win Championships. The best teams understand now that Defense wins championships and they all have younger players buying into that system.

If Pop wants to keep playing his system alot of personnel changes need to be made in the off season.

HarlemHeat37
04-05-2009, 08:51 PM
I was seeing your point at the beginning of your post, but the end ruined it..

so you're saying that teams in the league have just NOW caught on to defense winning championships?..sorry, but that's bullshit..

we rank 4th defensively, and we've been extremely inconsistent on D..that speaks volumes on the D of the rest of the NBA teams..there's only 3 great defensive teams this year, and they all play in the East..

saying teams just started realizing that it takes D to win titles is one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard..

sook
04-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Knee jerk

spursfan1000
04-05-2009, 09:03 PM
That was a really stupid post of me...I don't know what I was thinking about fireing POP...he has done so much for us and is a great coach. He won us our 4 championships and bout to be 5.

Agloco
04-05-2009, 09:08 PM
I don't want a new coach. I just want the old Pop back

+1

It's like someone ripped out Pop's brain and took a dump in his skull.......:depressed

Agloco
04-05-2009, 09:13 PM
This topic is a perfect example of ungrateful spoiled bandwagon fans. You know how many teams wish they had one NBA Championship ring? and yet you selfish salad tossing homos are pissed you don't have number five?

Now you know why I had to bail on the Spurs 7 years ago it wasn't Pop or the team it was the embarrassment of having to be part of your silly little bi-polar meltdowns after every loss!

And don't give me that lame ass reply about how message boards are for fans to vent and a real fan vents! A real fan keeps that shit inside and waits until deep in the playoffs to talk about coaching mistakes and a real fan waits until the season is over before he talks about replacing a coach or trading a player.

WTF are you all going to do if the Spurs go all the way? "oh wait I was only venting! I never really meant to get rid of pop yuk yuk!"

You sorry ass excuses for Spurs fans are not worthy of the rings you already have If your so passionate about Pop leaving or Avery Johnson sucks, then give back the rings or STFU!

If I was Peter Holt and had to read this shit? I would stick my index finger deep in coach Pops ass and give you all a dirty Sanchez you truly deserve.

Well, you're not. And I'm thinking that Holt wouldn't give two shits about the crap you throw up here anyway.

Old School 44
04-05-2009, 09:21 PM
I don't agree with alot of things he's done this season, but
like David and now Tim, Pop leaves when he wants to leave.

exstatic
04-05-2009, 09:25 PM
I don't agree with alot of things he's done this season, but
like David and now Tim, Pop leaves when he wants to leave.

He'll leave when Tim does. Tim will not ALLOW the Spurs to fire Pop. Anyone who thinks anything different is a fucking idiot.

SPURS50
04-05-2009, 09:26 PM
I think that the Pop that's on the sidelines right now is an impostor! He fucking better be cause his coaching of late is unreal.

superbigtime
04-05-2009, 09:31 PM
So...Pop doesn't deserve the credit then, but he deserves the blame now?

Can't have it both ways. If it was all the players then, it's all the players now.

If the team would be playing better now and make a deep playoff push, I would give them, the players, the credit. If they do not then I put more of the blame on Pop. That's because I think the Spurs have the right components to be a great team but there has been too much mucking with the lineup by the coach. Yes there have been injuries, but the lineups are still in flux, eg Manu starting the last 3 games.

Too often I feel this team not only has to beat the other team's players, but also overcome their fragile confidence issues, overcome bad refereeing AND deal with Pop's quirks. They have alot in their heads right now.

Old School 44
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
He'll leave when Tim does. Tim will not ALLOW the Spurs to fire Pop. Anyone who thinks anything different is a fucking idiot.

I agree. They probably have the closest thing to a father/son relationship that there is in the league between superstar and coach. You can't fire your dad, or in this case, your Pop. :lol Funny thing, the second closest is probably Tony/Pop.

Spur|n|Austin
04-05-2009, 09:57 PM
I don't want a new coach. I just want the old Pop back

SA210
04-05-2009, 10:17 PM
I don't want a new coach. I just want the old Pop back

ulosturedge
04-05-2009, 11:00 PM
I was seeing your point at the beginning of your post, but the end ruined it..

so you're saying that teams in the league have just NOW caught on to defense winning championships?..sorry, but that's bullshit..

we rank 4th defensively, and we've been extremely inconsistent on D..that speaks volumes on the D of the rest of the NBA teams..there's only 3 great defensive teams this year, and they all play in the East..

saying teams just started realizing that it takes D to win titles is one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard..


Sacramento in the Webber era was all offense and never won a championship, Dallas Mavericks all offense no ring, Phoenix suns all offense no ring, and i'm sure there are more. Mind you these were good top seeded teams that didn't play shit for defense. They were just all about trying to outscore you.

You don't remember the run and gun era where every game were like up around 120 points minimum and some even up around 140. Where the fuck is the defense in that?

HarlemHeat37
04-06-2009, 12:39 AM
the teams you named(other than Phoenix) were like the Lakers are now..which is definitely good enough for a title..

the KEY to winning a title, isn't lock down D..the key to winning a title is having the right mix and balance of D and offense..

the Sacramento team that took LA to game 7 was ranked 3rd offensively, and 6th defensively..the Lakers team that beat them was ranked 2nd offensively, and 7th defensively..

the Mavs team that beat us in 2006 was ranked 11th defensively, but 1st offensively..that doesn't sound good, but the Heat team that beat them was ranked 9th defensively, and not much of a difference..

the current Lakers team is ranked 3rd offensively, and 6th defensively..similar to the old Kings, and the 2007 Mavs..they aren't a lockdown defensive team by any means..

the key is balance..we don't have that..the league isn't really different, we just got worse with age, which is expected..I'd take any of the Spurs title teams in a battle against any team in today's NBA..

Bukefal
04-06-2009, 05:08 AM
damnnn, the overreacting in here makes me sick. Pop Is great, how can you give up on him when its going a bit bad?? Have you forgot all the great things he did over the last years???????

bdictjames
04-06-2009, 05:31 AM
Are you serious? I want Pop to retire, when Tim retires. The guy's transformed a franchise, and you throw him out the bus?

Rogue
04-06-2009, 06:29 AM
It's idiotic of those guys to blame Pop for the lose, on the contrary I sincerely appreciate what Pop has done on behalf of the spurs. Even after losing to the lakers, the spurs are still above the rockets on the season standing board and losing to the league's best team isn't a shame that may affact our morale. Although Pop sometimes makes controvercial decisions, but those decisions always lead the spurs to the best result they can get. Pop is an awesome coach.

purist
04-06-2009, 08:42 AM
Stupid, but typical, post.

As engaging and entertaining as the web is, it also has served as a great tool for revealing the fickle, weak character of many a so-called Spurs fan. At least on talk radio, only a few whiners get through.

It's as though its pre-1999 all over again.

Toughen up Spurs fan and instead of turning on your own team now, how 'bout a little support. Personnel changes, if they are needed, are best made int eh offseason, not now. So why even bring it up.

Besides, Pop has earned the "right", if you want to call it that, to run this team his way, regardless of whether some geeks in their mom's basement agree. What we're seeing take place with this team should not come as a surprise. Aging team = health issues, but you just ride it out with the big three as long as you can be be thankful the ride brought you a few titles, which you never had before.

Instead of bitching, enjoy what you can of watching this nucleus of players because after this season, there are no guarantees it'll remain intact. Enjoy Pop while you have him, because the day is coming that you won't. And when that happens, you will be longing for the "good old" days of Pop.

Perspective, people.

Dr. Gonzo
04-06-2009, 08:45 AM
Bring in Tim Floyd!!

Rogue
04-06-2009, 08:55 AM
I think coach K would be a good option for spurs. The duke sucked ass this year and was snubbed from the top 4 of NCAA, and coach K himself was also badly pissed by his students and Barack Obama's comments, so it may also a good option for him to change a place to work in.

raspsa
04-06-2009, 08:56 AM
Can't the Pop critics at least wait until the end of the season to start bashing him? Its not as if all the criticism, the majority of w/c is not even constructive at all, will have any influence whatsoever on how the Spurs will peform.

Dr. Gonzo
04-06-2009, 10:06 AM
I think coach K would be a good option for spurs. The duke sucked ass this year and was snubbed from the top 4 of NCAA, and coach K himself was also badly pissed by his students and Barack Obama's comments, so it may also a good option for him to change a place to work in.

:lmao

Obstructed_View
04-06-2009, 10:14 AM
Instead of bitching, enjoy what you can of watching this nucleus of players because after this season, there are no guarantees it'll remain intact. Enjoy Pop while you have him, because the day is coming that you won't. And when that happens, you will be longing for the "good old" days of Pop.

This is the stupidest take, perhaps ever. The Spurs should be maximizing the potential of the talent they have while they have the talent. In later years when the talent isn't there to win titles, the only thing fans will be wishing is that the team had made the most of its opportunities while it was a contender. Nobody's going to look back on any of these teams and say, "Gee, Gregg Popovich sure managed to do a lot with that sorry group of scrubs." Popovich has cost the Spurs one title already. Looking down your ignorant brown nose at fans that don't want him to cost the Spurs another one is indicative of your weak character, not theirs.

purist
04-06-2009, 12:12 PM
Obstructed View,
quit being an ass. the stupidest take is the take that Pop needs to be replaced because the Spurs are on a skid.
Look at the facts and step out of myopia. I want the Spurs to win another title as badly as the next guy. But I'm realistic, and appreciative of what I have.

I think we have disgreed before on other issues; and I think the diference in our philosophical views are quite clear. With this particular team there is only so much a coach can do. there are issues beyond the control of Popovich, namely age, health and time. This team has come a notch down this year, but not because of Pop; but because of a number of other issues.

Pop's not perfect, but he's got enough of a pedigree to have earned my patience.