Official Dodgers 2009 Thread

[IronMexican]

Talk about the Dodgers here. I don't think there are many other Dodger fans here, so it might be me talking to myself.

Opening pitch in 30 minutes. Kuroda starting.

[clambake]

don't care about baseball, but dodger stadium is very cool.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

don't care about baseball, but dodger stadium is very cool.

It is kind of a dump. You must not have been to any newer stadiums.

[IronMexican]

1-0


Dodger Stadium is a bit of a dump.

[Purple & Gold]

Dodgers always lose to the padres, which is why i was surprised they won opening day against Peavy. The second game wasn't surprised. With some decent pitching the Dodgers will win the West easily. We just need our young pitchers to step up. A tall order but not impossible. And if they can't hopefully a midseason trade for some teams ace.

[IronMexican]

Why did Wolf start over Bills? Makes no sense.

[Purple & Gold]

I don't know probably cause he has more experience, but Wolf looked pretty good. I've been happy with the bullpen so far too. Kuo looks like he's gonna have a monster year. Broxton throwing heat and that youngster they have looks like he's gonna be good.

[Purple & Gold]

Everytime I see Manny play I laugh at his Boston teammates and FO for wanting to get rid of him :lol :lol

[IronMexican]

Manny clutch, again. 12:30 start today.

[IronMexican]

Pathetic bullpen. This team is going nowhere without a trade.

[Purple & Gold]

I went to that game so I saw that bullshit collapse first hand. Wade got lit up so I wouldn't blame it all on the bullpen just him. But what I'm fucking pissed about is why the fuck is Loney and Kemp batting 6th and 7th?? What the fuck is up with that shit!! You got Russell batting 5th WTF?? I like Russell but it's not because of his bat. It's good for a catcher but no fucking way should he be hitting in front of Loney and Kemp. I know it's early and Torre is probably just messing with the lineup but in this lineup Martin needs to be hitting 7th or 8th. As soon as they walked Ethier I told my friend he's gonna hit in a double play and what the fuck does he do hit in a fucking double play. Fucking ridiculous that he gets more at bats then Loney and Kemp. :bang :bang :bang

[IronMexican]

I'd go:

1.Furcal
2. Kemp
3. Ethier(Remember he hit like 400 ahead of Manny last season)
4. Ramirez.
5. Loney
6. Martin
7. Blake
8. Hudson
9. Pitcher

[Purple & Gold]

I'd go:

1.Furcal
2. Kemp
3. Ethier(Remember he hit like 400 ahead of Manny last season)
4. Ramirez.
5. Loney
6. Martin
7. Blake
8. Hudson
9. Pitcher

I'm happy with that lineup although Hudson has looked good at the #2 spot. Ethier at the 3 and Manny at cleanup should happen as well. I'd leave Hudson at the 2 for now and put Kemp at 6th in front of Russell. Him and Blake can fight it out for 7th and 8th

[IronMexican]

I'd also like Dewitt to start over Blake. Apart from that HR, he's done nothing.

[Purple & Gold]

Allrite Dodgers coming back strong. I missed the game but damn a cycle by Hudson, way to come in and start producing from the start :clap :clap :clap


I also agree IM I don't know if I'd just throw Blake to the bench, but a nice platoon job between Blake and Dewitt would be nice. All we need is for the pitching to be strong cause with this lineup we should score our share of runs.

[IronMexican]

Nice game yesterday by the boys in blue. I missed the passed two games also. Keep it up tonight! I still feel SF is the Dodgers biggest threat in the West.

[IronMexican]

13 K's thruogh 7 for Kersh and 1 hit!

[IronMexican]

Fuck these guys

[IronMexican]

Manny!

[Purple & Gold]

This lineup is just sick with Manny in the lineup. Just his presence scares opposing pitchers. He should get an assist on Ethier's 3 run homer today.

[Purple & Gold]

2 days in a row Dodgers made me money :toast

[IronMexican]

On they're way to 10-3. I never would have thought they would be this good. Pleasant surprise.

[IronMexican]

Damn, I step away for 20 minutes, and it's 10-0.

[IronMexican]

16-8 son. Great win

[EricB]

Why does it say J. Martin on the back of Russel Martin's jersey?

[IronMexican]

Why does it say J. Martin on the back of Russel Martin's jersey?

I missed it. I was watching the Laker game, so I couldn't tell you.


12-0 at home.

2 against the Nats. Should be easy wins.

[turiaf for president]

his middle names are nathan jeanson coltrane. hes going by jeanson now on his uniform.

O dog is the biggest bargain signing of the off season. go doyers!

[turiaf for president]

13-0 baby!

[IronMexican]

13 in a row!

[ducks]

with a cheater

[IronMexican]

Fuck fuck fuck!

[turiaf for president]

back to their winning ways. O dog is sick!

[IronMexican]

O-dawg has been great. And WOW! A west coast team on ESPN! Not too often you see that.

[Purple & Gold]

Dodgers best team in baseball with Manny. Without we are still a very very good team.

[turiaf for president]

4-2 against 2 of the best in the east. today starts a good test against the mets

[IronMexican]

This game is fucking hilarious.

[IronMexican]

LMFAOOOO! WOW!!! That game was fucking CLASSIC! What a perfect way to win the game.

[turiaf for president]

just keep winning baby. 10+ game lead in the west when manny gets back. book it

[IronMexican]

Another day in the office for the Dodgers.

[turiaf for president]

fuuuuuck yea! 7-2 against the best of the ML east. wut now critics??? "go doyers!"

[IronMexican]

Fucking Gaylos.

[turiaf for president]

^ minor bump in the road. pierre is on fire

[EricB]

So again, Russel Martin is now going by his middle name!?

[IronMexican]

Fucking Lorreta!

[turiaf for president]

wut a comeback last night! lets go chad!

[ducks]

25 wins against their own divions
this team is a bit overrated

[dirk4mvp]

divions

[IronMexican]

Fucking Furcal!

[IronMexican]

Ethierrr!

[ducks]

what no comment
phillies should have won 3 out of the 4

they blew 2 games

dodgers are not going to win it all this year

[EricB]

Ducks,

go back to your suckass diamond backs and STFU.

[IronMexican]

I'd rather win a game like on Friday and Saturday than lose them. Plus, they are doing this without Manny.

[ducks]

I'd rather win a game like on Friday and Saturday than lose them. Plus, they are doing this without Manny.

yeah their other left fielder sucks
NOT

[ducks]

Ducks,

go back to your suckass diamond backs and STFU.

why?


yeah upton player of the month in may
pargo rookie of the month
I do not expect them to win it all this year


they are a fun exciting young team
they are playing much better now with their new hitting coach
their bullpen needs a little work then they are right their
also they have like 7 draft picks
the diamondbacks should be a force to deal with in the future

[turiaf for president]

LMAO @ ducks for defending a last place team with the "nice future" argument.

hey ducks, the clippers, lions, and nationals agree with you

[gaKNOW!blee]

what no comment
phillies should have won 3 out of the 4

they blew 2 games

dodgers are not going to win it all this year

They really shouldve swept them, Lidge is just being a little bitch this year.

[ducks]

LMAO @ ducks for defending a last place team with the "nice future" argument.

hey ducks, the clippers, lions, and nationals agree with you

yeah except the dbacks have won it all

[turiaf for president]

^ and how many players are on the current roster from that team?

lions have won 4 rings. wuts ure point?

[ducks]

MLB to Dodgers: Manny’s visit a no-no
51 minutes ago

Buzz up!855 votes PrintLOS ANGELES (AP)—There will be no more visits by Manny Ramirez(notes) to the Los Angeles Dodgers’ clubhouse during media access periods for the remainder of his 50-game suspension.

Dodgers spokesman Josh Rawitch said Wednesday the club received a “friendly reminder” on Wednesday from Pat Courtney, the No. 2 spokesman in the commissioner’s office, that Ramirez wasn’t allowed in the clubhouse when it is open to reporters.

Ramirez’s suspension for violating baseball’s drug rules runs through July 2.

Ramirez told reporters Tuesday: “I didn’t kill nobody, I didn’t rape nobody, so that’s it. I’m just going to come and play the game.”

“It was not a formal warning. They called to remind us,” Rawitch said. “The letter of the law says Manny is not allowed in the clubhouse while the media is present, and it is our intention to adhere to the policy. We certainly don’t expect it to happen again.”

[ducks]

dodgers should have had to sit manny 10 more games for breaking the rules again

great way to ran an organization
keep breaking rules

[ducks]

nice effort for those dodgers against rangers tonight:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[ducks]

dodgers last 10 games
5-5
lol

[IronMexican]

What now, ducks? Nothing bad to say about the Dodgers?

[EricB]

You gotta give ducks credit.

He roots for the second worst team in baseball, but yet talks shit about the best team in baseball.

That takes balls.

[KSeal]

Where is Kirk Gibson when you need him, fuck the A's.

[ducks]

You gotta give ducks credit.

He roots for the second worst team in baseball, but yet talks shit about the best team in baseball.

That takes balls.

they will not win it all

[ducks]

What now, ducks? Nothing bad to say about the Dodgers?

lol dodgers 6-4 the last 10 games

and lossing tonight

[ducks]

boston is going to have the best record soon
and their play in a much better division
they play everyone in their division 18 games

Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Rays
Baltimore Orioles


I would say their divsion is way better then the dodgers

[ducks]

and no I do not like boston

in the american league I like the rays

[ducks]

game over
no magic this time for the dodgers in the 9th inning
playing .500 ball again the last 10

[ducks]

Dodgers' eighth walk-off victory of the season, the most in baseball
their luck will stop soon
tonight they tried to pull it out again late to run this stat up and blew it

[KSeal]

boston is going to have the best record soon
and their play in a much better division
they play everyone in their division 18 games

Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Rays
Baltimore Orioles


I would say their divsion is way better then the dodgers

As much as i hate the sox they are the best team in baseball. Dodgers play in a horrid division, their lack of pitching will probably get exposed in the playoffs, but they are a pretty good team. I don't understand why you hate the dodgers so much, you a giants fan or something?

[EricB]

Eh, I'm not sold on the Red Sox this year still, their bullpen is damn good, however the starting rotation outside of Beckett? Eh...

[KSeal]

Eh, I'm not sold on the Red Sox this year still, their bullpen is damn good, however the starting rotation outside of Beckett? Eh...

True, but they have a three game lead in the best division in baseball with their best hitter just starting to hit. Who do you think is the best right now?

[KSeal]

lol, ducks, just like the true troll he is only bothers to show up when the Dodgers lose. What a faggot. Well the Dodgers have now won two straight series against AL teams and with a win tomorrow can make that three in a row.

[ducks]

well atleast upton's numbers are better projected better then ken griffy jr when he was 21

[KSeal]

:lmao WTF?!?!

[ducks]

justin upton has projected numbers for this season are better then ken griffey jr

[IronMexican]

Dodogers on their way to another win.

[KSeal]

Kobe was at the game with his pop, how sweet.

[ducks]

Kobe was at the game with his pop, how sweet.

yeah do you think he could get closer

[KSeal]

yeah do you think he could get closer

So if you had over 100 million dollars in the bank and decided to go to a baseball game you wouldn't get the best seats in the house?

[KSeal]

Dodgers win again.

[ducks]

rockies could catch them

[IronMexican]

dcks is so pathetic, I finnd it funny.

[ducks]

would it not be funny
heck have they not won 17 out of 18
what team has done that this year?

[IronMexican]

Ok, ducks, the Rockies are going to win the West. I mean, they have done all that and are still 8 back.

[KSeal]

Ducks, go cock yourself to Uptons projected stats.

[KSeal]

rockies could catch them

lol Rockies 10 games back.

[turiaf for president]

ducks, dodgers have the best record, not just over all but also since manny was suspended.........

[ducks]

lol Rockies 10 games back.

get it to 5 before allstar break anything can happen

rockies play dodgers more games to:lol

[turiaf for president]

ironic how ure avatar says bandwagoner fans suck, yet your all over the rockies bandwagon.

[KSeal]

get it to 5 before allstar break anything can happen

rockies play dodgers more games to:lol

Giants have a better chance at catching the Dodgers then the Rockies do, they're only 7 back now.

[IronMexican]

Pau at the game. And, Dodgers win.

[turiaf for president]

3 bombs by ethier

[KSeal]

Why isn't Kuroda pitching? Whoever is pitching sucks ass.

[IronMexican]

King Felix owning the Dodgers.

[KSeal]

Hopefully the Mariners start to suck massive ass so then the Dodgers can trade for Felix, that man would almost guarantee us a WS trip.

[iggypop123]

Hopefully the Mariners start to suck massive ass so then the Dodgers can trade for Felix, that man would almost guarantee us a WS trip.

realistically they are going to trade washburn

[KSeal]

realistically they are going to trade washburn

Yeah, me hoping they'd give up Felix is a complete dream.

Meanwhile Dodgers have lost 4 out of their last 5 :depressed

But they're still up 7 games :king

Manny back Friday :downspin:

[KSeal]

Dodgers have sucked massive ass the last couple of weeks, offense sucks ass, I'll gladly welcome the cheater back.

[Melmart1]

Somebody needs to tell Manny to stop being a cheapo

http://thehive.modbee.com/node/14377

[turiaf for president]

regular season is becoming boring to watch.......... wake me up when the playoffs start

[IronMexican]

MANNY! If only runners were on base.

[IronMexican]

Ethier pisses me off sometimes. He hits for home runs only, it seems.

[gaKNOW!blee]

regular season is becoming boring to watch.......... wake me up when the playoffs start

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/lbrownie/matt-stairs-phillies.jpg


Sorry....had to....

[turiaf for president]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/lbrownie/matt-stairs-phillies.jpg


Sorry....had to....

all good. that was a heart breaker but dodgers youngsters are a year older and billingsly and kershaw are coming into their own. should they meet again, i think the dodgers take the series. phillies offense is stacked but their pitching is horrible at best. dodgers offense is no slouch and wait til furcal, martin, and ethier starts playing well.

NL West is probably the only division decided already and no the rockies or giants will not win the division. one has no pitching while the other cant hit for shit

[symple19]

Fuck the Dodgers! Go Giants!!! But I have to admit the Dodgers are much better right now, depending on if the Giants can get a bat before the deadline. I'll always take pitching over hitting in the playoffs, and San Fran is better defensively. LA has the best manager in baseball though. Serious Edge to LA overall. And 7 games isn't insurmountable, especially since it's before the break!!

[IronMexican]

Would Dodger fans trade Kershaw, DeWitt and a couple other players for Halladay? I am on the fence about this one.

[turiaf for president]

^yes. kershaw had a huge upside but he's ceiling is where halladay is. so y not go for a sure thing? if they want both kershaw and bill's hell no.

[turiaf for president]

Fuck the Dodgers! Go Giants!!! But I have to admit the Dodgers are much better right now, depending on if the Giants can get a bat before the deadline. I'll always take pitching over hitting in the playoffs, and San Fran is better defensively. LA has the best manager in baseball though. Serious Edge to LA overall. And 7 games isn't insurmountable, especially since it's before the break!!

gotta make the playoffs to use that pitching man. starting pitching i give san fran the big edge but defense? loney is a stud at 1st, hudson is a gold glove winner along with martin, furcals got serious range and a cannon, blake has been good, kemp and ethier have range and sick arms. manny is the only weakspot on this line up.

think of it like this up the middle

martin, hudson, furcal, kemp

v

molina, uribe, renteria, rowland

dodgers are better

[gaKNOW!blee]

all good. that was a heart breaker but dodgers youngsters are a year older and billingsly and kershaw are coming into their own. should they meet again, i think the dodgers take the series. phillies offense is stacked but their pitching is horrible at best. dodgers offense is no slouch and wait til furcal, martin, and ethier starts playing well.

NL West is probably the only division decided already and no the rockies or giants will not win the division. one has no pitching while the other cant hit for shit

Yeah the Dodgers are the real deal no doubt about it....thats the team that scares me the most in the NL.

Theres rumors about both the Phllies and Dodgers landing Hallday...which ever team does is the favorites IMO.

[IronMexican]

Phils have to get into the Playoffs first. The NL East reminds me of the West last season.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Phils have to get into the Playoffs first. The NL East reminds me of the West last season.

They'll be alright...if they didnt hit that big time rough patch (aka the American League) no team would be close to them right now.

Once Ibanez gets back, and now J-Roll and Lidge are getting it together...they should definitely win the division.

[symple19]

gotta make the playoffs to use that pitching man. starting pitching i give san fran the big edge but defense? loney is a stud at 1st, hudson is a gold glove winner along with martin, furcals got serious range and a cannon, blake has been good, kemp and ethier have range and sick arms. manny is the only weakspot on this line up.

think of it like this up the middle

martin, hudson, furcal, kemp

v

molina, uribe, renteria, rowland

dodgers are better
First, it's Rowand, not Rowland. So I looked up the team stats and you're right. Dodgers Fielding pct is .988, Giants is .985. It's close. Total errors for Dodgers is 38, Giants is 45. Again close, both teams in top half of NL easily. As to your point on the Giants making the playoffs, they are positioned well because they're leading the wild card with a two game lead over the Rocks. Big ups to Sanchez for throwing the no-no tonight, and Rowand made another spectacular catch against the wall to preserve the no-hitter in the 9th. The NL west is finally a good division again, and it'll be a tough road for La/SF/Col down the stretch.

[turiaf for president]

those are pretty close numbers defensively. i still think SF needs a big bat in order to have success down the stretch. i think its going to end like this

NL W - dodgers
NL C - Brewers
NL E - phillies
wild - cardinals

[symple19]

those are pretty close numbers defensively. i still think SF needs a big bat in order to have success down the stretch. i think its going to end like this

NL W - dodgers
NL C - Brewers
NL E - phillies
wild - cardinals
I agree w/ Dodger, Phillies picks, but I think the Cards win their division. As for the wild card, it's very early but I still believe it'll be the Giants or the Rocks. After them I would go with the Marlins. The NL central teams beat each other up too much for them to make a wild-card run.All of this speaks to how good the Dodgers really are by leading the best division in the NL(It pains me to say that).
I absolutely agree the Giants need a big bat, but Sanchez throwing the no-hitter puts a wrench in that because he had been the main bait in trade talk recently. Throw in Cain/Big Unit being hurt and I've got to think Sanchez is off the table. For once the Giants are loaded in the minors(even with position players) so they have options. Several of those guys are off the table, like Buster Posey and Madison Bumgarner, but it leaves plenty of other guys they could dangle.

Is there talk of the Dodgers making any moves? I don't follow them closely but it seems another arm wouldn't hurt. What's the status of LAs farm system? I know it's always one of the best.

[IronMexican]

Not hearing much out of the farm.


Dodgers need a pitcher(Halladay would be a dream) Doubt they do trade for one, though. I think the Dodgers are staying put.

[KSeal]

Not hearing much out of the farm.


Dodgers need a pitcher(Halladay would be a dream) Doubt they do trade for one, though. I think the Dodgers are staying put.

They better trade for at least one decent pitcher, if not their bullpen will be completely shot by the time the playoffs roll around. None of their starters can go past the fifth inning, it's sad. Kershaw has been amazing his last six starts though, it's time to ship him out with some other dudes for Halladay, that would put us way over the top.

[turiaf for president]

whats wut with wade? is he ever going to regain his 2008 form? we need him to step up because bellasario and troncoso are running on fumes.

as far as starting pitching, if kuroda can work out his kinks from his injury, i think the dodgers are gonna stay put.
bills, kershaw, wolf, kuroda, are a solid 1-4 and the 5th guy can be anyone from milton or weaver to hold it down in the regular season. come playoff time, we wont need a 5th starter.

kershaw's value is as high as ever so the dodgers can offer him and a blake dewitt and toronto might be interested

[symple19]

wow - Halladay - Now that really wouldn't be fair. Is there legit talk out there for that deal? Yeesh. Just looked at his contract and he's making 14.25mil this year and around 15.75mil next year. Seems like a bargain to me. My guess would be that whichever team got him would have to be willing to sign him long-term and have the benjis to do it. He does have a no-trade clause but I doubt he'd say no to LA. Here's the contract:Roy Halladay rhp
3 years/$40M (2008-10)


3 year/$40M (2008-10)

signed extension with Toronto 3/06
08:$10M, 09:$14.25M, 10:$15.75M
award bonus: $0.125M for All Star selection
no-trade clause
Halladay to donate $100,000/year to Jays Care Foundation

4 years/$42M (2004-07)

signed extension with Toronto 1 /04 (avoided arbitration)



04:$6M, 05:$10.5M, 06:$12.7M, 07:$12.8M
$50,000 All-Star award bonus

1 year/$3.825M (2003)
3 years/$3.7M (2000-02)

$0.25M signing bonus



00:$0.3M, 01:$0.65M, 02:$2.5M

agent: Greg Landry, SFX
ML service: 9.047

[IronMexican]

Everyone is having talks with Toronto for Halladay.

[KSeal]

It seems like everyone thinks the Phillies is Roy's most likely destination, which would kill me. That would guarantee those fucks another WS trip. I hope they sign Pedro and he is amazing for the next month so they don't go after Roy, then Pedro will shit out right after the deadline, that would be classic. If the Dodgers were to step up and get Roy I don't see anyone standing in their way in the NL.

[ducks]

Would Dodger fans trade Kershaw, DeWitt and a couple other players for Halladay? I am on the fence about this one.

if I am raptors I make sure Pierre is included in any dodger trade for halladay

[IronMexican]

if I am raptors I make sure Pierre is included in any dodger trade for halladay

They could have him. Dodgers paying way too much for a back-up outfielder there.

[KSeal]

As long as Manny isn't going to get suspended again I'm fine with Pierre getting shipped out. I don't know where the Dodgers would be right now if we didn't have him though, he really saved them when Manny was out.

That douche Steve Phillips said this morning that if the Dodgers decided to include Kershaw in a trade for Halladay a deal would get done immediately, that's pretty damn tempting..

[turiaf for president]

if I am raptors I make sure Pierre is included in any dodger trade for halladay

did we get our sports confused? also theres no way the blue jays take pierre unless the dodgers agree to pay part of his salary which i dont see cheap mccourt doing.

[KSeal]

Dodgers first to 60! Up 9 games in the NL West. Now just trade some scrubs for Halladay and the WS is ours!

[turiaf for president]

woooooot

[KSeal]

Cheater or not, Manny is fucking amazing! Pinch hit, first pitch, grand slam, to Mannywood, on Manny bobble head night, lmao. That shit had to be scripted.

[dirk4mvp]

Manny is king.

[dirk4mvp]

lol he didn't even take bp. Manny > Pooholes

[turiaf for president]

i was at the game....holy shit i seriously thought the stadium was going to collapse. wow

[turiaf for president]

tough matchup against josh johnson tonite. hopefully kershaw can keep pace and keep the marlins at bay

[IronMexican]

i was at the game....holy shit i seriously thought the stadium was going to collapse. wow

Lucky.

[KSeal]

Dodgers lose three in a row for the first time all year. Man they suck ass right now. I sure hope we can land Cliff Lee or else we ain't winning jack shit come playoff time with Billingsley as the number one and a 21 Kershaw, just ain't going to happen.

[KSeal]

It's just going from bad to worse for the Dodgers. Amazing outing by Kershaw, too bad Broxton had to fuck it all up. :depressed

[IronMexican]

ck Brox. He is a one trick pny. Hard slider or or flaner. Dodgers need to do something now.

[KSeal]

At this point I dont even care who they trade as long as it isn't Kershaw or Kemp. Everyone else can go.

[turiaf for president]

torre blew this one. letting troncoso with a RISP and then not pinch running for manny on 2nd base with ethier and blake at bat.

[KSeal]

torre blew this one. letting troncoso with a RISP and then not pinch running for manny on 2nd base with ethier and blake at bat.

I guess, but the two other times we got the lead we then blew it in the bottom half of the inning, that's just how things are going right now. I bet if Manny scores there we probably let them tie it right back up.

I pin it on Brox, I love him but the dude had two outs with nobody on, come on, you've got to close that damn thing out!!!!

[symple19]

At this point I dont even care who they trade as long as it isn't Kershaw or Kemp. Everyone else can go.
Seems a little crazy considering the dodgers have the best record/team(as of now) in the league

[turiaf for president]

i would do a billingsly mcdonald and josh bell for halladay. i dont think thats prolly enough but kemp and kershaw are untouchable

[EricB]

I would not trade Billingsly (sp) right now. That guy has special stuff. Damn damn damn amazing player.


Just came across the wires that they have acquired George Sherril.

Nice move.

[KSeal]

Seems a little crazy considering the dodgers have the best record/team(as of now) in the league

Yeah but come playoff time they'll be in trouble. Clayton Kershaw is their best pitcher and he's 21 with no playoff experience and will have pitched a ton more innings then he's ever pitched before. And Billingsley, my lord, the guy has an amazing arm but a very poor mind. He's a nervous head case and I have no faith in him in big games at all. So for the Dodgers it's do you try and win now with Manny and trade some younger guys for Hallday or do you wait two or three years when your young players are more mature. It's a tough spot, if I'm LA I trade Bills with like Martin and some minor league prospects for Halladay.

So happy about getting Sherril though, great pickup. We could have used him last night :depressed

[IronMexican]

Bills is a mental midget.

[KSeal]

Avoided the five game losing streak, thank the good lord.

[KSeal]

The Dodger newbie Sherril was fucking awesome today striking out the side with the bases loaded and the game on the line :)

[IronMexican]

C'mon Manny

[IronMexican]

Fucking gay.

[KSeal]

Life without cheating is no fun for Manny.

I seriously hate him, I hope he dies tonight. He's a pathetic blackhole piece of shit cheater that sucks ass.

[IronMexican]

Shut the fuck up.

[KSeal]

Heat of the moment I don't really mean all that. He has been terrible since hitting the slam though, hope he can turn it around soon.

[dirk4mvp]

You fags happy now?

[KSeal]

I think I was the only one complaining :lol

[IronMexican]

Happy with the W. I want to marry Matt Kemp. This is a bigger man-crush than Taylor Mays or Mark Sanchez.

[KSeal]

Grampa Mota throwing at 560 pound Prince Fielder :lmao

[turiaf for president]

martin starting to come around...... lets go dodgers!

[KSeal]

By Adam McCalvy / MLB.com

08/05/09 3:37 AM ET

LOS ANGELES -- A screaming-mad Prince Fielder was stopped at the door of the Dodgers clubhouse by security officials before a large group of Brewers teammates caught up and prevented the slugger from confronting Dodgers reliever Guillermo Mota following a tense finish to Milwaukee's blowout loss on Tuesday.

Tempers flared after Mota hit Fielder in the leg with a pitch with two outs in the ninth inning of the Dodgers' 17-4 rout. It was apparent retaliation for the two Dodgers hitters -- including Manny Ramirez in the seventh inning -- who were plunked earlier in the game.

Mota was immediately ejected by home plate umpire Lance Barksdale. Fielder stood at home plate for a few moments before reluctantly taking his base, but after Dodgers left fielder Juan Pierre made a leaping catch to end the game, Fielder charged down the dugout steps, and he didn't stop there.

He knew the location of the Dodgers clubhouse because it's near a weight room used by visitors, so Fielder hustled past fans and reporters toward the door, yelling obscenities. A number of his teammates caught up with Fielder in time to usher him back to the visitor's side.

"I don't remember that," Fielder said before a Brewers official cut off a brief question-and-answer session.

Fielder and Mota got along fine last season, when Mota pitched for Milwaukee. All Fielder would say about his former teammate on Tuesday was, "He tried to come inside. It just got away from him. It happens."

Brewers manager Ken Macha was much more direct.

"It's a part of the game I don't like," Macha said. "We're just trying to get out of the game. We're kind of getting our butts kicked pretty good, and I thought it was obvious because the guy hits Prince and then walks straight off the mound. Prince was standing at home plate looking at him. [Fielder] was pretty upset after the game.

"We're not trying to hit anybody, OK? We're losing by 13 runs. We're trying to get 24 outs. We're not trying to hit anybody. That kind of mentality, I think should be taken care of. We'll see what happens. As far as I'm concerned, the guy just hit him on purpose and then walked straight off the mound into the dugout."

Macha called for Mota to be disciplined by Major League Baseball.

"This kind of mentality puts everybody in jeopardy," Macha said. "Giving [Mota] a $500 fine and a two-day suspension, that's not enough. This kind of thing should be cleaned up."

According to reporters who watched the bizarre scene unfold, it was Casey McGehee and Bill Hall who restrained Fielder from actually taking his case inside the home clubhouse. McGehee wouldn't comment, and Hall chalked it up to, "That's baseball."

"We're teammates, and we're going to back him with any decision he makes," Hall said. "We were all just being teammates. I don't think anybody has a problem with that."

Inside the Dodgers clubhouse, many players were unaware of the scene that had unfolded outside. Catcher Russell Martin asked reporters, "Security had to hold him back?"

"That's all right," Martin added. "I mean, it's 25 against one."

Dodgers manager Joe Torre wouldn't comment. Neither would center fielder Matt Kemp, who matched career highs with four hits and five RBIs in the Dodgers' best night at home since they scored 17 runs on May 25, 1979, against the Reds.

"Normally you want stuff to be taken care of on the field, but it's just part of the game," Martin said. "Our premier hitter gets hit and he's been hit quite a bit this year and it's just kind of protection. That's all it is, it's part of the game. It's been a part of it since I've first started playing. ...

"I understand [Fielder] is frustrated. I understand that. But I don't think that you should take care of it after the game."

Tuesday's showdown sets up an interesting series finale on Wednesday night. It's the final scheduled game between the Brewers and Dodgers this season.

"We'll deal with it when we cross paths again," Brewers center fielder Mike Cameron said. "Everything is good. We just want to play a good baseball game."

Fielder, who has played every inning of every Brewers game this season, will be back in the lineup for Wednesday's series finale, Macha said.

"He's been in every game. Why wouldn't he play?" Macha said.

[IronMexican]

By Adam McCalvy / MLB.com

08/05/09 3:37 AM ET

LOS ANGELES -- A screaming-mad Prince Fielder was stopped at the door of the Dodgers clubhouse by security officials before a large group of Brewers teammates caught up and prevented the slugger from confronting Dodgers reliever Guillermo Mota following a tense finish to Milwaukee's blowout loss on Tuesday.

Tempers flared after Mota hit Fielder in the leg with a pitch with two outs in the ninth inning of the Dodgers' 17-4 rout. It was apparent retaliation for the two Dodgers hitters -- including Manny Ramirez in the seventh inning -- who were plunked earlier in the game.

Mota was immediately ejected by home plate umpire Lance Barksdale. Fielder stood at home plate for a few moments before reluctantly taking his base, but after Dodgers left fielder Juan Pierre made a leaping catch to end the game, Fielder charged down the dugout steps, and he didn't stop there.

He knew the location of the Dodgers clubhouse because it's near a weight room used by visitors, so Fielder hustled past fans and reporters toward the door, yelling obscenities. A number of his teammates caught up with Fielder in time to usher him back to the visitor's side.

"I don't remember that," Fielder said before a Brewers official cut off a brief question-and-answer session.

Fielder and Mota got along fine last season, when Mota pitched for Milwaukee. All Fielder would say about his former teammate on Tuesday was, "He tried to come inside. It just got away from him. It happens."

Brewers manager Ken Macha was much more direct.

"It's a part of the game I don't like," Macha said. "We're just trying to get out of the game. We're kind of getting our butts kicked pretty good, and I thought it was obvious because the guy hits Prince and then walks straight off the mound. Prince was standing at home plate looking at him. [Fielder] was pretty upset after the game.

"We're not trying to hit anybody, OK? We're losing by 13 runs. We're trying to get 24 outs. We're not trying to hit anybody. That kind of mentality, I think should be taken care of. We'll see what happens. As far as I'm concerned, the guy just hit him on purpose and then walked straight off the mound into the dugout."

Macha called for Mota to be disciplined by Major League Baseball.

"This kind of mentality puts everybody in jeopardy," Macha said. "Giving [Mota] a $500 fine and a two-day suspension, that's not enough. This kind of thing should be cleaned up."

According to reporters who watched the bizarre scene unfold, it was Casey McGehee and Bill Hall who restrained Fielder from actually taking his case inside the home clubhouse. McGehee wouldn't comment, and Hall chalked it up to, "That's baseball."

"We're teammates, and we're going to back him with any decision he makes," Hall said. "We were all just being teammates. I don't think anybody has a problem with that."

Inside the Dodgers clubhouse, many players were unaware of the scene that had unfolded outside. Catcher Russell Martin asked reporters, "Security had to hold him back?"

"That's all right," Martin added. "I mean, it's 25 against one."

Dodgers manager Joe Torre wouldn't comment. Neither would center fielder Matt Kemp, who matched career highs with four hits and five RBIs in the Dodgers' best night at home since they scored 17 runs on May 25, 1979, against the Reds.

"Normally you want stuff to be taken care of on the field, but it's just part of the game," Martin said. "Our premier hitter gets hit and he's been hit quite a bit this year and it's just kind of protection. That's all it is, it's part of the game. It's been a part of it since I've first started playing. ...

"I understand [Fielder] is frustrated. I understand that. But I don't think that you should take care of it after the game."

Tuesday's showdown sets up an interesting series finale on Wednesday night. It's the final scheduled game between the Brewers and Dodgers this season.

"We'll deal with it when we cross paths again," Brewers center fielder Mike Cameron said. "Everything is good. We just want to play a good baseball game."

Fielder, who has played every inning of every Brewers game this season, will be back in the lineup for Wednesday's series finale, Macha said.

"He's been in every game. Why wouldn't he play?" Macha said.

I should have never turned the game off after the bottom of the 7th.

[turiaf for president]

it was nothing. prince got drilled on the thigh area. mota was just protecting manny.

i for one didnt think they hit manny on purpose. it was just an inside pitch that got away. but still props to mota for having manny's back

[IronMexican]

Another loss last night.

[ducks]

ok dodgers fan
IF dbacks are stupid enough to let webb walk do you guys want him?

dbacks have tell oct to decide to exersise their option if they do 8.5 million
if they do not they have to pay him 2.5 million

[KSeal]

ok dodgers fan
IF dbacks are stupid enough to let webb walk do you guys want him?

dbacks have tell oct to decide to exersise their option if they do 8.5 million
if they do not they have to pay him 2.5 million

If getting Webb means I don't have to watch Jason Schmidt pitch every fifth day then I'm all for it.

[KSeal]

This team just simply isn't that good. Ethier and Kemp are awesome and they have some nice up and coming pitchers but they've just reeked of mediocrity for a while now. My expectations have been lowered from a WS trip to just winning the division.

[IronMexican]

I have the same hopes every year. As long as the Yankees, Angels, or Sawx don't win it, I am happy.

[IronMexican]

Dropped my damn beer after that one! WOOO!

[KSeal]

This team just simply isn't that good. Ethier and Kemp are awesome and they have some nice up and coming pitchers but they've just reeked of mediocrity for a while now. My expectations have been lowered from a WS trip to just winning the division.

:lol

That was badass! :elephant

[Dr Cox]

go dodgers!!!!! this is the year!!!
c had b is sick!!!

[KSeal]

Broxton has blown like 3 saves the past two weeks, thanks for that pal.

[IronMexican]

Kemp loves the clutch. Good win yesterday, apart from Broxton coming in.

[KSeal]

Dodgers are going to take down Cing Cum tonight and finish off the sweep.

[KSeal]

I was almost right, too bad Mota had to come in, I knew it was over right then and there.

[ducks]

rockies could catch them

rockiets are close
if dodgers are not carefully they will not win the division

[ducks]

are the dodgers really 17-20 now with manny back
maybe they should suspend him again

[ducks]

Another loss last night.

yep
and I dare a pitcher hit another dback

[KSeal]

Toughest game of the series is over. Hope we get the next two, luckily SF and Colorado both lost.

[ducks]

yeah haren was back to haren last night

[KSeal]

Dodgers lose again, pathetic, this team sucks.

[ducks]

mark now leads national league with homeruns


heck of a game watched most of it


42 thousand were there tonight
why their prices are one of the most reasonable in the mlb

[IronMexican]

I just laughed when Broxton threw those 2 homers. I'd just be happy with making the PO's at this point. After that, everything else is gravy.

[KSeal]

Good thing Kuroda appears to be ok after that liner off the dome.

Dodgers win! Randy Wolf almost pitched a perfect game and hit for the cycle in the same game, well it wasn't that close but kinda.

[ducks]

wolf is awesome
dbacks pitcher today should be in trible a
but he had one great outing 3 outings ago
and their star prospect is hurt parker

[Dr Cox]

im kinda getting nervous...seems like a big slump right now

[KSeal]

im kinda getting nervous...seems like a big slump right now

You jinxed them with that thread about how they were going to win the NL.

[symple19]

The Dodgers are fine. SF is playin like ass right now too and Colorado isn't doing anything to make you worry either. Torre will get you guys dialed in by playoff time.

I went to game one in the recent LA/SF series. Was a lot of fun to boo Manny. Multiple fights in the stands, there was a lot of intensity both on and off the field(very rare for SF, even when playing the Dodgers). Wanted to say that after leaving view reserve and finding some vacated seats on the field level, I sat with some very cool/knowledgeable Dodger fans who drove up from LA for the series. Good conversation. You guys aren't all bad. LOL

GO GIANTS!

[KSeal]

Choke ala Mets is in the works. It's quite depressing sitting through these games just nothing going our way right now. What's even more depressing is ducks was right, Colorado's probably going to win the NL West.

[EricB]

man that was a great game to be at tonight :)

That said, go kick the shit out of the Cubs, your team is right on the cusp of breaking out of things, just need the starters to go longer.

[KSeal]

Every game Russell Martin starts we will lose. He has turned into the Sasha Vujacic of the Dodgers. Once pretty damn good, now completely useless. Martin singlehandedly handed the Cardinals the game on a silver fucking platter.

[EricB]

Russel Martin >>>>> Brad Ausmus.

Martin was one of the reasons they even won the game tuesday night.

[IronMexican]

Broxton comes through.

This team is falling apart fast.

[KSeal]

Russel Martin >>>>> Brad Ausmus.

Martin was one of the reasons they even won the game tuesday night.

No he wasn't, we won by four runs, his one hit really didn't mean that much. The man handed the game to the Cardinals last night all my himself. He's completely useless, he can't hit and he can't field, he's shit. Ausmus is hitting like 320 this year and is probably better defensively at 41 then Martin.

[KSeal]

I take back every bad thing I've ever said about Russel Martin.

[symple19]

lol---KSeal, you sure are skittish. Like I said, you guys need to relax. Torre will keep that ship straight. Plus, Manny needs to start hitting again...He's like .250 since he's been back, that's your main problem lately.

[EricB]

Kzeal no offense but you don't know shit about baseball. If you seriously think ausmus is better.

[KSeal]

lol---KSeal, you sure are skittish. Like I said, you guys need to relax. Torre will keep that ship straight. Plus, Manny needs to start hitting again...He's like .250 since he's been back, that's your main problem lately.

Bullpen, well Broxton mainly and the offense has been the issue. Manny had three hits today so that was nice, but Russell fucking Martin hit a grand slam so it could have just been one of those days.

[KSeal]

Kzeal no offense but you don't know shit about baseball. If you seriously think ausmus is better.

You're thinking of 07 Martin, that Martin was awesome, but the guy has sucked for over a year now, it's waaaaay past a slump. Ausmus has been better this year in the games he's played, it's fact. And fuck you, you know nothing about me.

[ducks]

martin is overrated
he was very good
he is a good catcher but his batter is not great

[KSeal]

Great win tonight, we're getting on a roll baby!

[turiaf for president]

was at the game for wed and thursday. damn broxton blew another game, but the martin slam against the cubs was siick!

[EricB]

Thanks again for beating the Cubbies :)

[IronMexican]

Finally playing some great ball. I'd love to see some of this momentum carry on to late September all the way through October and maybe even early November.

[KSeal]

The Dodgers offense is just terrible right now. Rurcal, Manny, Loney, and Martin they all suck right now. Shit just ain't working out on the offensive end right now, hopefully that will change going into Coars field this week.

[IronMexican]

Stop fucking crying, jesus. Just took 3 out of 4 from the Cubs.

[KSeal]

Stop fucking crying, jesus. Just took 3 out of 4 from the Cubs.

:lol The Cubs suck dude. If you're fine with us underperforming and choking the division away that's fine but I actually care.

[IronMexican]

This team isn't built to win a championship anyways. Just enjoy the ride. This team is actually performing much better than I expected.

[KSeal]

Yeah, when Randy Wolf is your best pitcher you're probably not going to do a whole lot in the post season. I'm not expecting us to win the NL, TBH I don't care if we get swept in the first round, I just don't want to see us not win the division we had like a 10 game lead in a month ago. And watching this what should be good lineup suck is irritating, Manny goes 0 for 4 with 3 K's every game nowadays.

[ducks]

rockies vs doders soon

[ducks]

Los Angeles (74-51) at Colorado (71-54)Preview | Box Score | Recap | Currently: Denver, CO
Temp: 70° F Game info: 8:40 pm EDT Tue Aug 25, 2009 TV: KCAL, FSRM
Colorado will hand the ball to Jason Hammel
The Dodgers go with Clayton Kershaw

[KSeal]

Coars field should help our struggling offense. Hopefully we can take 2 of 3.

[ducks]

I hope rockies can take that walk off grandslam win into tonights game and win 2 out of 3
be very intersting race if that happens

also dbacks can help both the rockies and dodgers if dbacks can sweep them

[KSeal]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Dodgers got swept, the Rockies don't know how to lose whereas the Dodgers aren't playing their best ball to say the least. Luckily the Dodgers don't have to face their three best pitchers so hopefully Wolf and Kershaw can gets wins.

[KSeal]

lmao at this joke of a team.

[EricB]

Ramirez needs another shot of chick juice.

[dallaskd]

LOL

go rockies

[KSeal]

Manny had two hits and the gaming tying hit with two outs 0-2 in the bottom of the ninth. This had nothing to do with him. Joe Torre brought in a minor league pitcher instead of Sherril or Broxton and it cost us the game.

[ducks]

how do the rockies not go with street though
this is the dodgers
you rest street before the dodgers not vs the dodgers


oh and street may not be needed later in the series you atleast put him last night rest him tonight

[ducks]

if rockies win today with fogg going I will laugh
fogg has lasted 2 innings the last few starts

[KSeal]

I have to agree with you ducks, if the Dodgers lose with their most consistent pitcher Wolf going against Fogg, holy shit. I won't even know what to say, I'll just be devastated.

[IronMexican]

Eth is my 3rd fav Dodger behind Kemp and Kersh.

[KSeal]

A win! Worst case scenario we leave Colorado with a 2 game lead, sweet :)

[IronMexican]

No idea who Padilla is but he's pitched pretty well today.

[ducks]

wow
impressive wins

[KSeal]

The series started like shit but ended well. 4 games up with the toughest stretch behind us, yeah baby!

[IronMexican]

Broxton makes it interesting again.

[turiaf for president]

wow
impressive wins

wtf someone hack into ducks computer or did he give the dodgers some props?

[turiaf for president]

Broxton makes it interesting again.

i would consider closing with sherill and moving brox back to the setup role. at least until his big toe is 100%

[symple19]

Like I said, you guys will be OK. Add in the easiest of relevant NL west schedules down the stretch and you're pretty much guaranteed the division. You'll need pitching stability and a hot Manny to get deep in the playoffs though.

What do you guys think about the Giants/Rockies race? If the playoffs started today the Dodgers would be playing one of those 2 teams.

Hey turiaf, looks like the Brewers prediction was wrong after-all. I picked the Cards but Holliday is obviously the reason they're in. They might even catch the Dodgers for best record. What are your thought heading down the stretch concerning the playoff picture?

[IronMexican]

Like I said, you guys will be OK. Add in the easiest of relevant NL west schedules down the stretch and you're pretty much guaranteed the division. You'll need pitching stability and a hot Manny to get deep in the playoffs though.

What do you guys think about the Giants/Rockies race? If the playoffs started today the Dodgers would be playing one of those 2 teams.

Hey turiaf, looks like the Brewers prediction was wrong after-all. I picked the Cards but Holliday is obviously the reason they're in. They might even catch the Dodgers for best record. What are your thought heading down the stretch concerning the playoff picture?

I think the Giants are better suited for the Playoffs. I think Colorado will win, though.

[IronMexican]

Manny and Matt

[ducks]

fuck them
had davis got thru them on more time
it would have been great

[IronMexican]

fuck them
had davis got thru them on more time
it would have been great

did you see Manny hurt the team right now? What a cancer.

[ducks]

yeah and did you see upton average then look at manny's
and then look at manny's contract and upton's contract

[ducks]

did you see Manny hurt the team right now? What a cancer.

torre said saturday
manny has been sucking batting:lol

sure helping the team sucking:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ducks]

oh upton homer run

[ducks]

R. Ryal homered to deep center

[turiaf for president]

Like I said, you guys will be OK. Add in the easiest of relevant NL west schedules down the stretch and you're pretty much guaranteed the division. You'll need pitching stability and a hot Manny to get deep in the playoffs though.

What do you guys think about the Giants/Rockies race? If the playoffs started today the Dodgers would be playing one of those 2 teams.

Hey turiaf, looks like the Brewers prediction was wrong after-all. I picked the Cards but Holliday is obviously the reason they're in. They might even catch the Dodgers for best record. What are your thought heading down the stretch concerning the playoff picture?

yea i was def wrong on the brewers pick. i knew their pitching was suspect but they bats have gone cold as well. holliday is just straight up racking it. props to him

dodgers just picked up belliard, jim thome, and jon garland. def a major improvement!

dodgers cards phillies with the giants winning th WC i think.

and then it will prolly be cards v dodgers 1st round which is scary as a dodger fan. we always bend over for carpenter and wainwright. i think whoever has home field will win that series

[ducks]

garland sucks
and is not a great teamate
if his players make errors behind him he makes sure he mentions it during his press confernce

[ducks]

great win by the dbacks tonight

[ducks]

where are the dodger fans?

[ducks]

who the heck brings an remote airplane to a ballgame

what a idiot
dodger games are long
to many trips to the mound
long introductions when batting
torre trying to make the dodgers the yankees

[KSeal]

where are the dodger fans?

I was thinking the same thing, pretty dead out there towards the later innings.

Dodgers have won 8 of 12, hasn't been pretty but they're scraping by.

[ducks]

last night I went to bad
clay walked in winning ran
I think clay will be a great pitcher just needs more experience
my son has his autograph

great story with clay also
dad died he told dbacks fuck you
went home worked on ranch
dbacks found him offered him contract they wanted him on triple a he said fuck you single a near my mom's ranch
then he got called up

[symple19]

they're (dodgers) getting it done though. IMO it's all Torre. Guy is a helluva manager. With Thome, Belliard, and Garland you definitely got better, especially Garland. He'll bring some stability back to the rotation. I listened all day to people discussing what in the hell to do with Thome since he can't really play the field. Thoughts?? Pinch hit or DH for the WS??

Did you guys see Brad Penny against the Phils today?! WOW. He looked dominant, with great command and a mid 90s fastball in the 7th & 8th innings. If he continues that the Giants have absolutely no holes in their rotation. Once we get F Sanchez healthy they should start hitting a bit more too. Don't get me wrong, the hitting still stinks, but it'll get at least a bit better.

I heard Penny left LA on bad terms, what do you guys know???

[KSeal]

D Backs whopping that Dodger ass :lmao

I seriously feel like I'm watching the Clippers play, just as pathetic as pathetic gets. Oh well, since we traded for Garland the D Backs have no pitcher tom. so we should be able to get a split, which is pretty sad in itself.

[IronMexican]

D Backs whopping that Dodger ass :lmao

I seriously feel like I'm watching the Clippers play, just as pathetic as pathetic gets. Oh well, since we traded for Garland the D Backs have no pitcher tom. so we should be able to get a split, which is pretty sad in itself.

That's Bills for you. He gave up 0 hits through 4 innings. I step away for the entire 5th inning, come back and it's 4-0. Once he starts doubting himself, might as well pack it in. You could see him when the Dodgers are batting and he's doing bad, he's just sitting by himself thinking non-stop.

[KSeal]

That's Bills for you. He gave up 0 hits through 4 innings. I step away for the entire 5th inning, come back and it's 4-0. Once he starts doubting himself, might as well pack it in. You could see him when the Dodgers are batting and he's doing bad, he's just sitting by himself thinking non-stop.

That's funny cause I did the same thing, Bills was perfect through 4 then I took my dog out, came back and it's 2-0 and then Bills can't even get the opposing pitcher out and the inning continues and it ends up 4-0. He's seriously our number five starter at this point, just a mess.

[EricB]

Cardinals now tied for best record in the NL :)

[KSeal]

Might as well just put the Cardinals in the WS at this point. They never lose.

[ducks]

That's Bills for you. He gave up 0 hits through 4 innings. I step away for the entire 5th inning, come back and it's 4-0. Once he starts doubting himself, might as well pack it in. You could see him when the Dodgers are batting and he's doing bad, he's just sitting by himself thinking non-stop.

allen is the dbacks first baseman for a long time

pena for him was worth it

atleast dbacks will get the split