Michigan State Spartans vs North Carolina Tar Heels

[Allanon]

Don't know if there's another thread for this.

How many friggin' people are there? They should do the NBA Finals in an NFL stadium too.

[dirk4mvp]

Pretty boring matchup. I hope someone puts an elbow right between Hansbro's eyes.

[Spursfan092120]

Go unc!!!

[The Franchise]

70,000 people. :wow

[Spursfan092120]

Pretty boring matchup. I hope someone puts an elbow right between Hansbro's eyes.
Not if you're rooting for Michigan State. Tyler is a beast when someone tries to hurt him.

[The Franchise]

This is going to be a landslide in favor of UNC.

[Spursfan092120]

This is going to be a landslide in favor of UNC.
I hope so..if they win, I win the pool..lol...plus I dig UNC...other than UT, they're the only other NCAA team I like.

[Spursfan092120]

There's a lot of blue in the crowd...a lot more than I expected.

[The Franchise]

There's a lot of blue in the crowd...a lot more than I expected.

Yeah, the crowd seems to be pretty loud for Carolina which is a surprise.

[Allanon]

70,000 people. :wow

70,000? Got damn!

They should totally do the Finals in a football stadium. Hell, maybe the WCF & ECF too. Imagine those games with 70,000 fans, that would be nuts.

[Spursfan092120]

MSU looks scared

[Allanon]

Michigan's freezing up right now.

[The Franchise]

Villanova was a much more competitive matchup than Michigan State.

[dirk4mvp]

This games' probably over already.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

J-Rich and Plaxico are there together watching since they both went to MSU. That is one deadly drive by shooting waiting to happen.

[Allanon]

Hansbrough's got a nice jumper for a big dude

[The Franchise]

This games' probably over already.

I think I'll just watch until the half.

[Spursfan092120]

Hansbrough's got a nice jumper for a big dude
Pay attention Pop and RC

[The Franchise]

I watched that ass fucking Michigan State took in December, so I was kind of disappointed to see this matchup.

[lefty]

Home cooking?

Not so much

[Spursfan092120]

BS foul on Danny Green.

[Spursfan092120]

If Michigan State is going to try to get every point off a free throw in this game, it's going to be over by the first half.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If Michigan State is going to try to get every point off a free throw in this game, it's going to be over by the first half.

It's already over.

[The Franchise]

It's already over.

Unfortunately.

[Spursfan092120]

It's already over.
Not yet it's not.

[Allanon]

Michigan showing some life and UNC bringing back the big guns.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Pay attention Pop and RC

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


Why the hell would any team want JJ Redick at power forward?

[dirk4mvp]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


Why the hell would any team want JJ Redick at power forward?

:rollin

[Allanon]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


Why the hell would any team want JJ Redick at power forward?

You don't like Hansbrough? He's no Tim Duncan but he's alot better all around than Redick.

This year's draft ain't that great to begin with, but lots of solid blue-collar guys all around.

[Spursfan092120]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


Why the hell would any team want JJ Redick at power forward?
he's a tough SOB who can hit a jump shot. If you knew the Spurs system, deadbeat, you'd know that the Spurs have plays set up for their big men to hit a jump shot. He also has a good basketball IQ, and would adapt well into the system.

[Spursfan092120]

You don't like Hansbrough? He's no Tim Duncan but he's alot better all around than Redick.

This year's draft ain't that great to begin with, but lots of solid blue-collar guys all around.
Damn right.

[The Franchise]

The second half will be good experience for the UNC bench players for next year.

[dirk4mvp]

Anyone who thinks Hansbro is going to be a good pro is insane.

His biggest asset is overpowering weaker bigs, and well he's not gonna be able to get away with that in the nba.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

he's a tough SOB who can hit a jump shot. If you knew the Spurs system, deadbeat, you'd know that the Spurs have plays set up for their big men to hit a jump shot. He also has a good basketball IQ, and would adapt well into the system.

1) Being a college student who smokes weed here and there makes me a deadbeat? You should really consider getting remove-the-stick-from-your-ass surgery.

2) He'd be a horrible undersized PF and his defense is crud. He's un-athletic and has no future in the NBA.

[mardigan]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


Why the hell would any team want JJ Redick at power forward?

Yea, that's a terrible comparison.

[dirk4mvp]

Damn right.

You're agreeing with a guy who says Anthony Randolph has already maxed out his potential.

[mardigan]

Anyone who thinks Hansbro is going to be a good pro is insane.

His biggest asset is overpowering weaker bigs, and well he's not gonna be able to get away with that in the nba.

No, his biggest asset is that he works his ass off and doesn't ever quit. He might not be a superstar or anything but he will have a good NBA career.

[The Franchise]

Anyone who thinks Hansbro is going to be a good pro is insane.

His biggest asset is overpowering weaker bigs, and well he's not gonna be able to get away with that in the nba.

Lawson is going to make a great pro though.

[dirk4mvp]

No, his biggest asset is that he works his ass off and doesn't ever quit. He might not be a superstar or anything but he will have a good NBA career.

lol the typical white college player. By good nba career, what do you mean?

[Spursfan092120]

1) Being a college student who smokes weed here and there makes me a deadbeat? You should really consider getting remove-the-stick-from-your-ass surgery.

2) He'd be a horrible undersized PF and his defense is crud. He's un-athletic and has no future in the NBA.
No...that's not what makes you a deadbeat...answer the messages from Thunder Dan...that's all I'm going to say. I don't give a shit what you smoke...And a 6'9" 250 pound PF is UNDERSIZED?!?! :lmao Please dude...and that's before NBA conditioning.

[mardigan]

lol the typical white college player. By good nba career, what do you mean?

Nick Collison type career. Like a 8 point 4 or 5 rebound guy. Energy off the bench. He actually reminds me of a bigger and better Malik Rose.

[Allanon]

Anyone who thinks Hansbro is going to be a good pro is insane.

His biggest asset is overpowering weaker bigs, and well he's not gonna be able to get away with that in the nba.

Hansbrough will be a decent pro and a decent 1st round pick.

Who according to you will be a great pick this year?

[dirk4mvp]

Lawson is going to make a great pro though.

Yeah he's pretty good. I'm glad Flynn is staying another year so when the Mavs miss the playoffs next year, he'll fall down to Dallas :flag:

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No, his biggest asset is that he works his ass off and doesn't ever quit.

Same can be said for JJ Redick and Adam Morrison, no?

[Spursfan092120]

Lawson is going to make a great pro though.
agreed with that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No...that's not what makes you a deadbeat...answer the messages from Thunder Dan...that's all I'm going to say. I don't give a shit what you smoke...And a 6'9" 250 pound PF is UNDERSIZED?!?! :lmao Please dude...and that's before NBA conditioning.

O that.....I paid the 10 bucks today. I just completely forgot about it.....PM ThunderDan if you don't believe me.

[dirk4mvp]

Hansbrough will be a decent pro and a decent 1st round pick.

Who according to you will be a great pick this year?


No one really. This draft class looks horrible actually. Especially if Thabeet is coming out.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If Ty Hansbrough is 6'9" then Shaq really is superman.

[Spursfan092120]

Anyone who thinks Hansbro is going to be a good pro is insane.

His biggest asset is overpowering weaker bigs, and well he's not gonna be able to get away with that in the nba.
Thanks for that, Miss Cleo

http://www.userkind.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/miss-cleo.jpg

[Spursfan092120]

O that.....I paid the 10 bucks today. I just completely forgot about it.....PM ThunderDan if you don't believe me.
Alright then..my bad.

[Spursfan092120]

If Ty Hansbrough is 6'9" then Shaq really is superman.
Um..Ty Hansbrough is 6'9", dude...

[Allanon]

No one really. This draft class looks horrible actually. Especially if Thabeet is coming out.

Well shit, there you go. This ain't a cream 'o the crop draft class. But from what's provided, guys like Tyler Hansbrough will be the decent blue-collar NBA pros that make up most of the NBA.

[mardigan]

Same can be said for JJ Redick and Adam Morrison, no?

Maybe, I'm not sure what kind of work ethic either of them have, doesn't seem like much. I was talking purely as players. Reddick is a jump shooting sissy who doesn't play any d, Hansbrough is a tough ass player who doesn't give up anything. I'm not saying he will be an All-Star, but I could see him being a very good contributor off the bench.

[Allanon]

If Ty Hansbrough is 6'9" then Shaq really is superman.

Ya Hansbrough's 6'8-6'9. He's also 240 which makes him pretty thick. Should be able to bang in the post.

[dirk4mvp]

Thanks for that, Miss Cleo

http://www.userkind.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/miss-cleo.jpg

We all know the Spurs are falling off the map pretty soon. What a great idea it is to have Tyler Hansbro leading that movement.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Um..Ty Hansbrough is 6'9", dude...

He's listed at 6'9" but I don't buy that.

[Spursfan092120]

Well shit, there you go. This ain't a cream 'o the crop draft class. But from what's provided, guys like Tyler Hansbrough will be the decent blue-collar NBA pros that make up most of the NBA.
Exactly..not every good NBA player looked like he'd be a good NBA player in college...hard work can change that.

[mardigan]

No one really. This draft class looks horrible actually. Especially if Thabeet is coming out.

I agree with you on that though. Thabeet is softer than Yao his rookie year. I don't think I have ever seen anyone softer than him at his size.

[dirk4mvp]

Congrats to his future of being a slow, unathletic Brandon Bass with an even worse jumper.

[dirk4mvp]

I agree with you on that though. Thabeet is softer than Yao his rookie year. I don't think I have ever seen anyone softer than him at his size.

I hope he stays as long as he can.

[mardigan]

He's listed at 6'9" but I don't buy that.

Yea, your probably right about that. He's probably closer to a shade under 6-8.

[Spursfan092120]

We all know the Spurs are falling off the map pretty soon. What a great idea it is to have Tyler Hansbro leading that movement.
Yeah..maybe Spurs are starting to fall a bit. And your Mavs aren't. The reason the Mavs aren't falling is because you actually have to be good to fall.

[Allanon]

Congrats to his future of being a slow, unathletic Brandon Bass with an even worse jumper.

Worse shooter than Bass? I think he already is a better jumper than Bass.

And I think if he can produce like Bass, that's pretty good for a late 1st round pick in this class.

[The Franchise]

Congrats to his future of being a slow, unathletic Brandon Bass with an even worse jumper.

:lol Darn.

[dirk4mvp]

Yeah..maybe Spurs are starting to fall a bit. And your Mavs aren't. The reason the Mavs aren't falling is because you actually have to be good to fall.

lol Tyler Hansbro

[Ghazi]

Congrats to his future of being a slow, unathletic Brandon Bass with an even worse jumper.



lol I was thinking the EXACT same thing the other day. Literally thought "Psycho T" (gay) is a poor man's Brandon Bass, which is pretty fucking shitty.

[Spursfan092120]

lol Tyler Hansbro
lol Golden State

[dirk4mvp]

Worse shooter than Bass? I think he already is a better jumper than Bass.

And I think if he can produce like Bass, that's pretty good for a late 1st round pick in this class.

Bass' 15 foot pull up jumper is pretty money.

[mardigan]

lol I was thinking the EXACT same thing the other day. Literally thought "Psycho T" (gay) is a poor man's Brandon Bass, which is pretty fucking shitty.

Maybe right now. Give Hansbrough 3 years in the NBA and then we can see where he is. He already had a better jumper than Bass by far.

[Allanon]

Bass' 15 foot pull up jumper is pretty money.

That's the only outside he shot. Hansbrough can already score decently anywhere within the 3. Post up decent as well.

[dirk4mvp]

He already had a better jumper than Bass by far.

:rollin

[Spursfan092120]

That's the only outside he shot. Hansbrough can already score decently anywhere within the 3. Post up decent as well.
Exactly..I think any team would be lucky to pick him up with a late 1st round pick.

[dirk4mvp]

lol this shows how much this game sucks that we're comparing a current nba spare to a future nba spare.

[Allanon]

He already had a better jumper than Bass by far.

Agreed. Bass has that straight-away/elbow shot, but that's about it.

[Allanon]

lol this shows how much this game sucks that we're comparing a current nba spare to a future nba spare.

This draft sucks. Gotta pick the best of the worst.

[dirk4mvp]

Agreed. Bass has that straight-away/elbow shot, but that's about it.

Whatdoyaknow, that's exactly where Hansbro takes nearly all his jumpers as well.

Is Hansbro going to be better than Anthony Randolph?

[Allanon]

Exactly..I think any team would be lucky to pick him up with a late 1st round pick.

Yup. That's the thing about this draft, between 1 and 30 there ain't a whole lotta evidence to pick one over the other. Spurs need some bigger/younger bodies.

[Allanon]

Whatdoyaknow, that's exactly where Hansbro takes nearly all his jumpers as well.

Is Hansbro going to be better than Anthony Randolph?

Hansbrough can shoot the sidelines and can post up. Bass can't post up outside the paint.

Hansbrough versus Randolph, probably not.

[The Franchise]

Whatdoyaknow, that's exactly where Hansbro takes nearly all his jumpers as well.

Is Hansbro going to be better than Anthony Randolph?

No.

[mardigan]

lol this shows how much this game sucks that we're comparing a current nba spare to a future nba spare.

:lol
So true.
Every time I see Green and Ellington play those guys impress me more and more. I wonder what their ceilings are.

[Spursfan092120]

Yup. That's the thing about this draft, between 1 and 30 there ain't a whole lotta evidence to pick one over the other. Spurs need some bigger/younger bodies.
God yes...agreed.

[Ghazi]

No fucking way is Hansborough gonna have an effective post up game in the NBA.

[The Franchise]

Lucas with the luck shot.

[mardigan]

No fucking way is Hansborough gonna have an effective post up game in the NBA.

Yea, probably not. He will also probably have some trouble matching up with all the bigger more athletic guys on defense. But I also think he could be a very effective big for a team that likes to go small and run.

[daslicer]

No fucking way is Hansborough gonna have an effective post up game in the NBA.

Agreed Hansborough isn't even a first round pick in my mind but you never know some team might be stupid to waste their first round pick due to UNC hype ala Sean Mays '05. Hansborough = future scrub.

[Allanon]

No fucking way is Hansborough gonna have an effective post up game in the NBA.

The NBA is lacking powerful post players right now. Lot's of finesse but few guys who just power shit up.

Hansbrough's got the strength, he has to develop for sure but I think he can be a good post-up player.

[The Franchise]

Yea, probably not. He will also probably have some trouble matching up with all the bigger more athletic guys on defense. But I also think he could be a very effective big for a team that likes to go small and run.

If he can get matched with a dominant center he could make a pretty good living in the NBA with his jumper from 18 ft and in.

[DrHouse]

Hansboro = Kevin Love

Too small, unathletic, and too WHITE to be an effective post player in the NBA.

Like others have said he will have to adapt his game if he wants to play in the NBA. Less post up and more face up game (i.e. midrange jumpers).

[Spursfan092120]

Hansboro = Kevin Love

Too small, unathletic, and too WHITE to be an effective post player in the NBA.

Like others have said he will have to adapt his game if he wants to play in the NBA. Less post up and more face up game (i.e. midrange jumpers).
I think he has the basketball IQ to adapt his game though. And if he can do that, he'd be good in SA, since the Spurs system has a lot of plays giving a big man a mid range jump shot.

[dirk4mvp]

lol Michael Doleac without the range.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I think he has the basketball IQ to adapt his game though. And if he can do that, he'd be good in SA, since the Spurs system has a lot of plays giving a big man a mid range jump shot.

Ok so he's the next Matt Bonner......great.....If I were ever a GM, I'd want my first round picks to turn into Matt Bonner type players....

[Spursfan092120]

Ok so he's the next Matt Bonner......great.....If I were ever a GM, I'd want my first round picks to turn into Matt Bonner type players....
He's a lot tougher and a much better rebounder than Bonner.

[Allanon]

Ok so he's the next Matt Bonner......great.....If I were ever a GM, I'd want my first round picks to turn into Matt Bonner type players....

C'mon, Matt Freakin' Bonner? Hansbrough is a hell of alot more of a banger than Bonner.

Hansbrough will be a decent defender, scrappy player, rebounder and scorer. Probably an 8-10 point, 8 rebound role-player, borderline starter.

[Spursfan092120]

Is it just me or did halftime last way too freaking long.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

For all this toughness I don't understand how he cried like a pussy after a player on Duke broke his nose.

[BeeGee]

Tyler Hansbrough = Mark Madsen 2.0

[Indazone]

What the hell is wrong with State. This is not Big Ten basketball? What happened to the physicality of the Big Ten? Go inside and bang with the big boys you bunch of pansies!

[Spursfan092120]

For all this toughness I don't understand how he cried like a pussy after a player on Duke broke his nose.
Dude...watch the clip again..he didn't cry. He was pissed. He got up and tried to go after Henderson...WTF were you watching?

[Spursfan092120]

What the hell is wrong with State. This is not Big Ten basketball? What happened to the physicality of the Big Ten? Go inside and bang with the big boys you bunch of pansies!
They can't..they don't have the strength UNC has.

[Allanon]

Tyler Hansbrough = Mark Madsen 2.0

I think he's alot like Mark Madsen, except with 100x better offensive skills.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Dude...watch the clip again..he didn't cry. He was pissed. He got up and tried to go after Henderson...WTF were you watching?

He's still a pussy Who's fallen apart against legit PF's. Jeff Green owned him 2 years ago and Darrell Arthur owned him last year. This year Griffin owned him his teammates just bailed him out.

[daslicer]

He's still a pussy Who's fallen apart against legit PF's. Jeff Green owned him 2 years ago and Darrell Arthur owned him last year. This year Griffin owned him his teammates just bailed him out.

He's overatted I'm willing to bet anybody in here he will never put up the numbers Bonner put up this year. He's uncoordinate awkward player who will get the shit blocked out of him 9 out of 10 times when he puts it up in the NBA.

[Spursfan092120]

He's overatted I'm willing to bet anybody in here he will never put up the numbers Bonner put up this year. He's uncoordinate awkward player who will get the shit blocked out of him 9 out of 10 times when he puts it up in the NBA.
I stopped reading when you misspelled overrated.

[Spursfan092120]

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[Spursfan092120]

Add one more to this...
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[Spursfan092120]

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[Allanon]

Damn, this game sucked.

[mardigan]

Well, after this I guess Hansbrough goes down as one of the best college players of all time. Is he a top 10 player for his career? Top 20?

[Spursfan092120]

Well, after this I guess Hansbrough goes down as one of the best college players of all time. Is he a top 10 player for his career?
I would think so...had a HELL of a career.

[Spursfan092120]

Damn, this game sucked.
not for me. :) I have two college teams I cheer for every year..UT and UNC...I'm happy as a clam.

[Allanon]

Hansbrough and Ty Lawson were easily the players of that game.

[ducks]

lawson is greater for the suns then nash

[Allanon]

not for me. :) I have two college teams I cheer for every year..UT and UNC...I'm happy as a clam.

Good for UNC fans. Just wasn't competitive enough, that was a thrashing. Like College players vs High schoolers. :lol

[Spursfan092120]

Hansbrough and Ty Lawson were easily the players of that game.
Hell yeah..they were clutch as hell.

[Spursfan092120]

Good for UNC fans. Just wasn't competitive enough, that was a thrashing. Like College players vs High schoolers. :lol
True..I see your point..

[ducks]

wonder how much the president paid the refs........

[Spursfan092120]

wonder how much the president paid the refs........
Come on ducks..we all know UNC was the better team in that game...

[Allanon]

wonder how much the president paid the refs........

That game wasn't even close enough to blame the refs. UNC led since the first quarter by like 20.

Michigan had no business being in that game.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

That game wasn't even close enough to blame the refs. UNC led since the first quarter by like 20.

Michigan had no business being in that game.

Don't watch much NCAAB, eh?

MSU tried to hard and by that I mean they were playing too fast. UNC played well, but MSU had a ton of mental errors. I think the weight of trying to win it for everybody else was too much for them to handle.

No doubt UNC was the best team this season, though.

[Spursfan092120]

Don't watch much NCAAB, eh?

MSU tried to hard. UNC played well, but MSU had a ton of mental errors. I think the weight of trying to win it for everybody else was too much for them to handle.
True..but I think Allanon was right...MSU was not going to give them a battle.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

True..but I think Allanon was right...MSU was not going to give them a battle.

I don't think they would have won, but they sure could have made it a better game.

I mean, they were throwing passes into Lawson's back on the wing and dribbling the ball off their feet on multiple occasions.

[Spursfan092120]

I don't think they would have won, but they sure could have made it a better game.

I mean, they were throwing passes into Lawson's back on the wing and dribbling the ball off their feet on multiple occasions.
True true.

[ducks]

That game wasn't even close enough to blame the refs. UNC led since the first quarter by like 20.

Michigan had no business being in that game.

watched the firt half
unc was allowed to foul michigan was not
unc was the better team
but the refs helped get the big lead

[dallaskd]

Ellington (sp?) is going to be a good NBA player.

[Allanon]

I don't think they would have won, but they sure could have made it a better game.

I mean, they were throwing passes into Lawson's back on the wing and dribbling the ball off their feet on multiple occasions.

The game could have been alot better, but everybody knew UNC was winning this one even before the tipoff. I didn't think it would be a wire to wire blowout though, that was startling.

Michigan just doesn't have the firepower to deal with them.

[dallaskd]

watched the firt half
unc was allowed to foul michigan was not
unc was the better team
but the refs helped get the big lead

true, but Mich St. had so many unforced turnovers. They looked scared.

[monosylab1k]

Michigan State blew their wad against UConn. They won their "championship" two nights ago. There's no way they could have gotten that amped up again, that quickly.

[mardigan]

Ellington (sp?) is going to be a good NBA player.

I really think he will too.
He's got a Ray Allen type skill set.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Michigan State blew their wad against UConn. They won their "championship" two nights ago. There's no way they could have gotten that amped up again, that quickly.

Looked that way. They played like they were spent.

[monosylab1k]

If Ty Hansbrough is 6'9" then Shaq really is superman.

:lol true that, Hansbrough is getting measured by the same ruler used by Michael Beasley. He'll be 6-7 or 6-8 by the time the draft rolls around.

I used to think he'd be Mark Madsen's twin brother in the NBA, but I think the Nick Collison comparisons are more likely. He has the work ethic to be a decent bench player.

[Ghazi]

I doubt it on Ellington (being a good NBA player)

I didn't see any spectacular NBA talent on the court tonight. But I ain't no scout :lol

[Indazone]

That game sucked. UCONN would have given the Heel's more of a game.

[Spursfan092120]

Go HEELS!!

[JamStone]

Man that sucked. Was never competitive to get into the game. Plus these dry stadiums for NCAA sanctioned events got to change. I needed a beer so bad watching that dreadful game.

[KidCongo]

Ellington (sp?) is going to be a good NBA player.

If the Cavs can't draft a legit centre, they should try nab Ellington.