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Evan
04-06-2009, 08:21 PM
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Strikeforce on Showtime

Apr 11, 2009 4:06 PM EDT
HP Pavilion in San Jose, California
Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz

STRIKEFORCE PRESENTS SHAMROCK VS. DIAZ

HP Pavilion at San Jose
Saturday, April 11, 2009 – 7:00PM (PST) SHOWTIME - prelims at 5:00PM


MAIN CARD (BEGINNING AT 7:00PM - PST):

Frank Shamrock (23-9-2) vs. Nick Diaz (18-7)
Gilbert Melendez (14-2) vs. Rodrigo Damm (8-2)
Scott "Hands of Steel" Smith (14-5) vs. Benji "Razor" Radach (19-4)
Chris "Cyborg" Santos (6-1) vs. Hitomi "Girlfight Monster" Akano (14-5)
Brett "Grimm" Roger (8-0) vs. Abongo Humphrey (12-0)


UNDERCARD (BEGINNING AT APPROXIMATELY 5:00PM – PST)

Luke Rockhold (3-1) vs. Buck Meredith (3-2)
Eric Lawson (8-2) vs. Waylon Kennell (4-1)
Raul Castillo (5-0) vs. Brandon Michaels (2-2)
James Terry (5-1) vs. Zak Bucia (3-1)
Jeremy Tavares (0-3) vs. Shingo Kohara (debut)

Evan
04-06-2009, 08:25 PM
Great f*cking card!!!! Viva la STRIKEFORCE!!!!!

Shame Josh got hurt as I would have picked him.........

3 fight predictions ok with everyone if anyone is interested? I have a feeling everyone might pick the same tho.


Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Brett “Grimm” Roger vs. Abongo Humphrey

dbreiden83080
04-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Great f*cking card!!!! Viva la STRIKEFORCE!!!!!

Shame Josh got hurt as I would have picked him.........

3 fight predictions ok with everyone if anyone is interested? I have a feeling everyone might pick the same tho.


Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Brett “Grimm” Roger vs. Abongo Humphrey

I'm In

Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Brett “Grimm” Roger vs. Abongo Humphrey

Evan
04-06-2009, 08:47 PM
^^^very cool....

2 more people make predictions so this counts.

Evan
04-06-2009, 08:48 PM
I might end up going with Benji.....

dbreiden83080
04-06-2009, 09:03 PM
I know i am one of the few fans of him left that are still hoping he can come back and do something, but if there is one fight out there for Tito, people will want to see, that he can win, it is a rematch with Frank. I want to see that BAD!!

djohn14
04-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Brett “Grimm” Rogers vs. Abongo Humphrey


....and really...her name is girlfight monster....thats stupid awesome

dallaskd
04-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Gilbert Melendez vs. TBA
Scott Smith vs. Benji Radach
Chris Santos vs. Hitomi Akano
Brett Rogers vs. Abongo Humphries

dallaskd
04-06-2009, 10:57 PM
Radach really not given enough credit here..

desflood
04-07-2009, 07:53 AM
Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Gilbert Melendez vs. Rodrigo Damm
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Chris “Cyborg” Santos vs. Hitomi “Girlfight Monster” Akano
Brett “Grimm” Roger vs. Abongo Humphrey

Dallas, you're on my happy list this week for being the one to bother to make a pick for the ladies.

LEONARD
04-07-2009, 08:08 AM
Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Gilbert Melendez vs. Rodrigo Damm
Scott Smith vs. Benji Radach
Cyborg Santos vs. Hitomi Akano
Brett Rogers vs. Abongo Humphrey

ATRAIN
04-07-2009, 11:59 AM
Great f*cking card!!!! Viva la STRIKEFORCE!!!!!

Shame Josh got hurt as I would have picked him.........

3 fight predictions ok with everyone if anyone is interested? I have a feeling everyone might pick the same tho.


Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Brett “Grimm” Roger vs. Abongo Humphrey

wow you really picking Nick

Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Brett “Grimm” Roger vs. Abongo Humphrey[/QUOTE]

ATRAIN
04-07-2009, 12:04 PM
Speaking of Shamrock

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/4/7/825465/frank-shamrock-sitting-with-mickey

spurs_50_21
04-07-2009, 12:58 PM
shamrock is going to pound diaz

Evan
04-07-2009, 04:34 PM
Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith vs. Benji “Razor” Radach
Chris “Cyborg” Santos vs. Hitomi “Girlfight Monster” Akano
Brett “Grimm” Roger vs. Abongo Humphrey

Dallas, you're on my happy list this week for being the one to bother to make a pick for the ladies.

I can't pick a fight if I haven't seen one of the fighters and I have never seen Akano. Its too easy to pick Santos that way.

LEONARD
04-10-2009, 02:51 PM
Frank and Nick trashtalk...
http://mmamania.com/2009/04/10/frank-shamrock-vs-nick-diaz-strikeforce-fight-trash-talk-boils-over-video/

There might be more in-ring antics during this fight than any fight in history...

I'm really excited for this one :ihit

djohn14
04-10-2009, 03:38 PM
Im very close to changing to Benji

Evan
04-10-2009, 04:54 PM
Im very close to changing to Benji

Its a very hard fight to pick

Evan
04-10-2009, 06:47 PM
179 lbs.: Frank Shamrock (180) vs. Nick Diaz (180)
155 lbs.: Gilbert Melendez (154) vs. Rodrigo Damm (154.5)
185 lbs.: Benji Radach (184) vs. Scott Smith (184)
145 lbs.: Hitomi Akano (143.5) vs. Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos (152)*
265 lbs.: Ron Humphrey (239.5) vs. Brett Rogers (262.5)
185 lbs.: Buck Meredith (185) vs. Luke Rockhold (186)
185 lbs.: Waylon Kennell (185.5) vs. Eric Lawson (186)
185 lbs.: Raul Castillo (183) vs. Brandon Michaels (187.5)**
170 lbs.: Zak Bucia (170) vs. James Terry (170)
135 lbs.: Shingo Kohara (136) vs. Jeremy Tavares (134.5)

Note: Fighters are allowed to weigh one pound more than the division limit in non-title fights.
* Cyborg has until 8 p.m. PT to shed at least 2.5 pounds
** Michaels also missed the mark on his first attempt

oligarchy
04-10-2009, 07:13 PM
Frank Shamrock vs. Nick Diaz
Gilbert Melendez vs. Rodrigo Damm
Scott Smith vs. Benji Radach
Cyborg vs. Soontobedead
Brett Rogers vs. Abongo Humphrey

Edit: Cyborg fight canceled -- NOT!.

LEONARD
04-11-2009, 08:55 AM
Go back and pick the Melendez - Damm fight if you didn't before...

Cyborg fight is on
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8557

Humphrey wasn't bad on Iron Ring on BET, but it was hard to judge much from that train wreck of a show...

Evan
04-11-2009, 11:09 AM
Melendez fight is such a can toss up

LEONARD
04-11-2009, 11:34 AM
Melendez is around a 3:1 favorite

I'm banking on Shamrock, Melendez, Cyborg, and Rogers...

dallaskd
04-11-2009, 09:18 PM
before the fight happens... i pick Melendez

Evan
04-11-2009, 09:19 PM
before the fight happens... i pick Melendez

me too

My Gawd Maura sucks so bad..."follicle FOLLIES!"

Evan
04-11-2009, 09:23 PM
Abongo can take a shot...Brett looked good.

and Mauro sucks worse now than he did 2 minutes ago

"those are the kind of shots that can end a career"

"It wasn't about the agony of defeat, it was about the agony of the knees"

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 09:28 PM
Gina!!!!!!!!

dallaskd
04-11-2009, 09:37 PM
Akano sucks.

Evan
04-11-2009, 09:38 PM
I feel bad for Akano...I have no doubt Cyborg cheated.

dallaskd
04-11-2009, 09:39 PM
cheated how

Evan
04-11-2009, 09:42 PM
cheated how

intentionally coming in so heavy.

You don't come in that heavy on accident...she knew SF would be so desperate they would force the fight to happen anyway which is exactly what happened.

dallaskd
04-11-2009, 09:44 PM
Gina is hot.

Evan
04-11-2009, 09:48 PM
"she ad a gurl problem"

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 09:49 PM
Akano sucks.

She was over-matched by the waaaay bigger fighter but she doesn't suck. She showed a lot of heart in there..

Evan
04-11-2009, 09:50 PM
Akano sucks.

Cyborg out weighed her by 2 female weight classes....

And I bet Cyborg has a bigger dick than Mr Dio

dallaskd
04-11-2009, 09:50 PM
Radach is about to shock you..

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 09:52 PM
intentionally coming in so heavy.

You don't come in that heavy on accident...she knew SF would be so desperate they would force the fight to happen anyway which is exactly what happened.

Exactly right, 7 pds heavy. So is this the new excuse for all Women fighters, coming in heavy??

"Hey i have Girl Problems, give me a break"

She did cheat..

Evan
04-11-2009, 09:59 PM
So is this the new excuse for all Women fighters, coming in heavy??.

It would seem so and that sucks. That hurts womens MMA so much.

I am a huge fan of female MMA and that garbage needs to stop.

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:01 PM
Scott Coker knows what he is doing...he will put a stop to it.

dallaskd
04-11-2009, 10:02 PM
damn what a great round 1

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:04 PM
and btw...Gus Johnson and Pat Miletich are doing a quality job...too bad Mauro sucks such a big back of d*cks.

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 10:04 PM
That's MMA for ya, what a fucking Round...

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:08 PM
I dont think Smith can see anymore

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 10:11 PM
Chat Room is Empty if Evan, Dallas and anyone wants to head in there an discuss the fights..

dallaskd
04-11-2009, 10:14 PM
holy shit lol

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 10:16 PM
That was crazy, fantastic fight, one of the best of 2009..

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:16 PM
I am in the chat room with db..cmon dallaskd

BlackSwordsMan
04-11-2009, 10:18 PM
Gina!!!!!!!!

she's there?

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:22 PM
she's there?

with her boobz

and they look like this - > (o)(o)

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:41 PM
Melendez fight is such a can toss up

btw can count as my my Melendez pic????? I just forgot to bold it....

That dude was a total can for Gilbert it was a whoosh pick.

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:45 PM
btw can count as my my Melendez pic????? I just forgot to bold it....

That dude was a total can for Gilbert it was a whoosh pick.

wait no I didn't...I screwed up by saying lets pick 3...dammit

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 10:47 PM
If Frank wins, expect he and Tito to have a nice nasty exchange of words..

Evan
04-11-2009, 10:48 PM
If Frank wins, expect he and Tito to have a nice nasty exchange of words..

It will be a cool stare down

Evan
04-11-2009, 11:13 PM
great card

Evan
04-11-2009, 11:14 PM
Frank is all talk and he has nothing left...dark ages of MMA have moved on boyo

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 11:14 PM
Well there goes Tito's next fight, Shamrock looked like crap, that's his last main event fight i'd say. Maybe his last one period..

Kobulingam
04-11-2009, 11:14 PM
Frank looked 1/2 the man he did against Cung Le.

Right from the start Frank was throwing some junk combinations... not sharp at all.

dbreiden83080
04-11-2009, 11:16 PM
The Reach edge just kicked his ass

desflood
04-11-2009, 11:37 PM
So is this the new excuse for all Women fighters, coming in heavy??
Way to generalize.

Smith was amazing once again, but I have to think that somebody who brings in their five-year-old kid to watch them get beat up has a streak of cruelty.

I had to laugh out loud when somebody (I think it was Gus) made the statement that most of Diaz's shots were "pitter-patter". Go ahead and walk up to Nick Diaz and say that to his face and he'll pitter-patter the hell out of your nose.

djohn14
04-11-2009, 11:47 PM
I loved it!

Evan
04-11-2009, 11:48 PM
Way to generalize..

to be fair I have yet to hear another reason why a women has come in heavy. Thats the only excuse I have ever heard and all by women. I think it has been used 3 times now in the past year and a half or so.

7bs was without a question an act of cheating knowing she could get away with it and she used "the women problem" as an excuse.

desflood
04-11-2009, 11:49 PM
It was a great show, despite the several obvious mismatches.

desflood
04-11-2009, 11:52 PM
to be fair I have yet to hear another reason why a women has come in heavy.

7bs was without a question an act of cheating knowing she could get away with it and she used "the women problem" as an excuse.
Oh, I agree. Cyborg definitely cheated, but that can't be the only excuse. Let's see... Gina has failed to make weight, what, three times? I know she used that excuse at least once, but what were her excuses the other two?

Evan
04-11-2009, 11:58 PM
but what were her excuses the other two?

she only used it once when she was way over....cyborg just used it when she was way over...and someone else used it when they were 4 lbs or so over last summer and I am drawing a blank who but I know it was a shoxc card.

the other two time Gina didn't use an excuse if I remember right.

I'm just saying it seems to be excuse when someone blows it. People are highly unforgiving when you screw up weight that bad.

BlackSwordsMan
04-12-2009, 12:01 AM
when was gina shown?

desflood
04-12-2009, 12:04 AM
I'm just saying it seems to be excuse when someone blows it. People are highly unforgiving when you screw up weight that bad.
Too bad they can't impose a weight limit for using that excuse :lol
Say, three pounds. It's very easy for a woman to gain that much in water weight during certain times (and very hard to lose; it doesn't just sweat out like regular water). But anything over that... nope. Not buying it.

Evan
04-12-2009, 12:04 AM
when was gina shown?

About four times before the Cyborg fight and once or twice after.

Strikeforce needs her bad...I hope they sign her and Kim "Yoko" Couture is her manager now so they better pay up.

Evan
04-12-2009, 12:08 AM
Too bad they can't impose a weight limit for using that excuse :lol
Say, three pounds. It's very easy for a woman to gain that much in water weight during certain times (and very hard to lose; it doesn't just sweat out like regular water). But anything over that... nope. Not buying it.

sounds fine to me

yeah and look I am obviously talking about something I know next to nothing about....I'm just saying...its just been used a bit much when someone blows weight big time.

I want womens mma to work and if a doctor says its a legit reason why the fighter is over weight by 3-4-5 lbs....go for it...make it a rule. I just don't want it to be a bogus excuse and I worry that is has already kinda become one.

I wonder how this all works out in female boxing.....

BlackSwordsMan
04-12-2009, 12:14 AM
nice thanks I'll keep an eye out

Evan
04-12-2009, 12:15 AM
About four times before the Cyborg fight and once or twice after.

Strikeforce needs her bad...I hope they sign her and Kim "Yoko" Couture is her manager now so they better pay up.

and I am assuming Kim is her manager now because she was complaining Gina had a bad contract with EXC (which I agree with btw) and she was saying things like "we need to sitdown and rework it" and "we need a contract thats currently fair"

Gina is worth it...she really needs training on being a better speaker tho. She is terrible on camera and if she could charm with words instead of just being pretty along with her talent she would RAKE in money. Its an extreme example but think how much money Tito has made with his mouth and think how much more Chuck could have made were he not such a simpleton neanderthal.

countless athletes take media lessons and her management would do well to force her to take them for her own good. GSP is doing it with that new marketing firm he is with...why not Gina?

desflood
04-12-2009, 12:16 AM
I just don't want it to be a bogus excuse and I worry that is has already kinda become one.
You're right, it has. Maybe now there's hope that the CSAC will recognise it and impose some limitations on its use (although I don't know how you could without serious privacy violations).

desflood
04-12-2009, 12:20 AM
Speaking of Gina and Chuck - was it my imagination, or did Cung Le sound awful during his interview tonight?

Evan
04-12-2009, 12:21 AM
(although I don't know how you could without serious privacy violations).

poor Gina already had to deal with that towel fiasco....why Skala or her dad didn't push for it to happen in privacy is beyond me.

UFC Fighters do their weigh-ins in closed doors before they go on that stage so why couldn't Gina have done so?

Evan
04-12-2009, 12:21 AM
Speaking of Gina and Chuck - was it my imagination, or did Cung Le sound awful during his interview tonight?

I commented on the UG that he sounded like a rambling 6 year old... :lol

desflood
04-12-2009, 12:28 AM
poor Gina already had to deal with that towel fiasco....why Skala or her dad didn't push for it to happen in privacy is beyond me.

UFC Fighters do their weigh-ins in closed doors before they go on that stage so why couldn't Gina have done so?
Didn't know that about the UFC. How is it that Dean Lister had to get naked on stage during his last weigh-in?

To answer your first question: When you have a money-making machine like Gina Carano, you're not going to protect their privacy. You're going to take all you can get from them before the novelty runs out.

Evan
04-12-2009, 12:34 AM
Didn't know that about the UFC. How is it that Dean Lister had to get naked on stage during his last weigh-in?


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good point.


Maybe they just do it in states they can get away with it? Because sometimes I watch weigh ins where a fighter flunks out and you never see actually happen at least I haven't but I only catch half of them. Maybe it only happens when they aren't in Nevada or California.

Evan
04-12-2009, 12:36 AM
and to put a wrap on whether or not her period is a legit excuse....

posted on the UG 1 hour ago.

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What?!? Thats bullshit! Lame excuse.

BlackSwordsMan
04-12-2009, 01:00 AM
the smith and radach fight was one of the best fights I've seen in a while

spurs_50_21
04-12-2009, 09:12 AM
i heard shamrock craped himself?

Evan
04-12-2009, 09:33 AM
i heard shamrock craped himself?

Figure of speech

Evan
04-12-2009, 09:36 AM
Interesting tidbit from the post fight conference


--Tito Ortiz made it very clear he wants to fight for Strikeforce. He is waiting for the UFC's first right of refusal to expire (which it does in May), and then he would ideally return in the fall. He has just started weight training again, and trash talked Babalu a bit. He admitted he was depressed Frank lost because it was "money out the window."

He has said he wants to fight in the summer many many times. So that tells me that something might be wrong with his rehab?

spurs_50_21
04-12-2009, 09:44 AM
Figure of speech

ok i thought it was like that dallas cowboys training camp incident on first season of hbo hard knocks

ATRAIN
04-12-2009, 09:44 AM
Anyone have any pics last night of Gina?

Evan
04-12-2009, 09:52 AM
Anyone have any pics last night of Gina?

It was just her sitting down waving like she always does. Not even a hit of cleavage.

spurs_50_21
04-12-2009, 10:09 AM
It was just her sitting down waving like she always does. Not even a hit of cleavage.


elite xc would get on knees when filming here trying to get upskirt lol

Evan
04-12-2009, 10:19 AM
elite xc would get on knees when filming here trying to get upskirt lol

^^^this is true!

dbreiden83080
04-12-2009, 01:22 PM
Interesting tidbit from the post fight conference



He has said he wants to fight in the summer many many times. So that tells me that something might be wrong with his rehab?

Well i think when he said Summer originally most people said "That is way too soon for his surgey" So he probably was just being overly optimistic. Fall is probably the safer and better target for him..

dbreiden83080
04-12-2009, 01:25 PM
And with this new Showtime deal, Strikeforce is the best place for Tito by far. Get healthy, string a few wins together and who knows he could be back in the UFC soon after..

Evan
04-12-2009, 01:39 PM
I wonder how much Frank losing changes everything with SF signing Tito. It would have been the best PPV event they could possibly put together and thats gone now.

dbreiden83080
04-12-2009, 02:00 PM
I wonder how much Frank losing changes everything with SF signing Tito. It would have been the best PPV event they could possibly put together and thats gone now.

Tito and Babulu is a big fight, just as big as he and Frank IMO.. Bottom line Tito will sign there as long as his demands are reasonable..

dbreiden83080
04-12-2009, 02:13 PM
His take on Dana at the end is both funny and true..


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Evan
04-12-2009, 03:28 PM
"I felt like I was watching money disappear." - Former UFC light heavyweight champ Tito Ortiz on his thoughts during the Shamrock-Diaz bout.

Evan
04-12-2009, 11:40 PM
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Click this for the video (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2ewpjpk&s=5)

LEONARD
04-13-2009, 09:15 AM
I still can't believe how terrible Shamrock looks...he looked slow, weak, and small. Coming off surgery, fighting 6 lbs below his normal weight, and getting older were just too much...

Scott Smith...wow! One of the toughest guys in MMA.

Evan
04-13-2009, 12:18 PM
According to Dave Meltzer "Frank Shamrock was asked to drop out of the fight due to his cracked ribs."

source: http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/8963/

LEONARD
04-13-2009, 12:55 PM
Hiding injuries makes betting on MMA tricky... :bang

dbreiden83080
04-13-2009, 07:25 PM
I wonder how much Frank losing changes everything with SF signing Tito. It would have been the best PPV event they could possibly put together and thats gone now.

Looks like all but a done deal to me..


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Evan
04-15-2009, 05:10 PM
Posted by Frank Shamrock on April 15, 2009 at 1:36pm
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well i got one day off and it was spent with baby Nicolette. work sucks especially after losing a fight. everyone is all nervous to say anything. i did get too watch the fight this morning. it was as i remember it to be: i looked slow and old. he looked young and active. his game was good. mine not.

everyone wants to know what i am going to do! will i fight again?, are you done?, i dont think so!. its gonna be the same thing i have been doing for the past 15yrs. back to the gym after vacation and back to work. i love fighting and mma. this is what happens when you risk stuff and sometimes you get your butt whopped. this is the best time i have ever had in my life and this is the best life i have ever had. i am a Believer.

you just gotta believe.

miss you mask.

frank

LEONARD
04-16-2009, 04:53 PM
Nick Diaz: $39,950 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Frank Shamrock: $369,790

:wow

dbreiden83080
04-16-2009, 05:46 PM
370 grand for Shamrock WTF

The UFC just paid (According to what was released) BJ Penn 125 grand for UFC 94. Who knows what bonus money he got, but shit 370 grand for Frank Shamrock. That's insane..

LEONARD
04-16-2009, 06:28 PM
GracieFighter also had another update on their site that should calm some of the outrage caused by yesterday's official Strikeforce payouts post:

Since figures were released by the CSAC on fighters pay from the Strikeforce event, we have received several inquiries and comments on Nick's pay. We would like to let Nick's fans know that his compensation for the event was actually substantially larger than the amount listed, due to the way his contract was structured. Nick Diaz and Strikeforce have in place a fair compensation agreement.

Evan
04-16-2009, 07:01 PM
GracieFighter also had another update on their site that should calm some of the outrage caused by yesterday's official Strikeforce payouts post:

Since figures were released by the CSAC on fighters pay from the Strikeforce event, we have received several inquiries and comments on Nick's pay. We would like to let Nick's fans know that his compensation for the event was actually substantially larger than the amount listed, due to the way his contract was structured. Nick Diaz and Strikeforce have in place a fair compensation agreement.

^thats the way it always happens...I have no idea why people get upset at payouts....

dbreiden83080
04-16-2009, 07:10 PM
^thats the way it always happens...I have no idea why people get upset at payouts....

Frank is way way way way overpaid..

Evan
04-16-2009, 07:53 PM
Frank is way way way way overpaid..

Hard to tell because on one hand part of his pay was for interviews hyping up the fight.

However on the other hand you're right because I sure don't see what the attraction is to his career anymore. I got into MMA because of TUF 1 and I have yet to see Shamrock do a damn thing that showcases any sort of set of high level skills. I have seen the guy fight 5 times since I became a fan and nothing has impressed me so far. That fight with Baroni was a tragedy.

Obviously he was greatness back in the day but obviously the game has passed him by but he is very solid doing play by play.

But I would like to go on record saying I would still love to see him fight Tito before the curtain call.:ihit

Evan
04-17-2009, 07:28 AM
From Josh Barnett's myspace post:

With the menstrual cycle excuse firmly in hand and an unwillingness to do any more than bare minimum, Chris Cyborg stepped on that scale Friday with no intention of making weight I assume. I heard blame on a scale at a gym they used, the period (as explained to me by saying, "Blood" in a Portuguese accent and making a whooshing effect with his hands from the crotch area.), and the fact that Gremlins didn't enter the picture is surprising.

It would be one thing if Hitomi had cut too but this issue is compounded by the fact that she gained weight to make this fight already, accepting she would be out sized....but accepting it from a weight of 146, not 150lbs. By the time any deals were made, Cyborg hit a scale at 1 am and was 158lbs. This was post pizza, which we saw her eat after just making weight enough to close the gap in weight difference which the commission needed just to even allow a fight to happen. She had until 8pm to cut. She could have worked to insure a bout by trying to make 146 as was agreed. But she did just enough and hoped we would accept the fight. They wouldn't reject a fight this big and on TV of things...of course not!

dbreiden83080
04-17-2009, 09:44 PM
However on the other hand you're right because I sure don't see what the attraction is to his career anymore. I got into MMA because of TUF 1 and I have yet to see Shamrock do a damn thing that showcases any sort of set of high level skills.

Sure, i mean during the heyday of this guy's career MMA was in the dark ages. Almost Nobody saw his reign and even less remembered it 5 minutes after it ended. Around TUF 1 is where MMA really started to take off, that is many years post Frank Shamrock. So when he came back, i don't believe many new fans of the sport, had ever heard of the guy. And it's not like he jumped back on the scene and beatdown some of the popular new breed fighters of today.. It's puzzling to me that he has a contract that elite, it really is..

LEONARD
04-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Nick Diaz administers The Shocker...
http://mmamania.com/2009/04/18/nick-diaz-passes-drug-test-following-strikeforce-win-on-april-11/

desflood
04-22-2009, 01:05 PM
Kim Couture on the Cyborg issue at 1:40. Good for her, she also called out Gina on using the excuse.

http://mmafix.com/2009/04/kim-couture-thinks-cyborgs-excuse-was-lame/

Evan
04-22-2009, 05:25 PM
Bears smell the menstruation