Madden 10

[IronMexican]

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/tags/Madden/default.aspx[/url]

Latest blog is all about player progression and franchise improvements.

The revamped the free agents in franchise so the right players are being resigned and can sign the Albert Haynesworth type deal.

They redid the draft also. Now there are sleepers and busts and scouting is the most important part of getting the right player now.

The big thing we’re working on as we speak is the Draft logic. I promise you…you will not see the Colts take a QB in the first round and then in the 3rd, 5th, etc. These type of logic tweaks are happening across the board and the draft is no different.

Player Progression

Older players will digress much faster. In fact, when a running back hits 30, he’s going downhill at warp speed.

• Younger players will progress quickly if they play well. We’re talking up 10 points in overall if he has a great year.

• Veteran players will still progress, but not substantially. They can also digress if they play poorly.


I like everything except for the RB going down hill once he hits 30. If he is still productive, his rating should stay the same, or at least make his injury proneness go up.


I love the potential thing. About time they take a page from 2k sports.

[monosylab1k]

I like everything except for the RB going down hill once he hits 30.

Why is that? That would probably be the most realistic part of the game. For the most part football players don't gradually decline, it happens very quick. One season they're great, the next season they're garbage and never recover.

[IronMexican]

Not all RB's. At least make it after X amount of carries, you start to digress.

[IronMexican]

http://www.pastapadre.com/7757/latest-madden-10-screenshot
Don't like it. Madden has always had problems with the lighting, and this one looks worse than the rest.


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[stretch]

http://www.pastapadre.com/7757/latest-madden-10-screenshot
Don't like it. Madden has always had problems with the lighting, and this one looks worse than the rest.


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I think it looks great and realistic. No one is able to focus clearly on everything in their eyesight.

[FaithInOne]

Madden looking better and better on the $300 consoles while the $3k PC's are still stuck with 03 Graphics.

Never again Madden, Never again :bang

[dirk4mvp]

I'm sure it will improve before it comes out. They've got a lot of work to do....like fix the linebackers that have 60" verticals.

[IronMexican]

Yeah, I hate throwing a pass down the middle and having Cato June bat the ball down with the hops of Randy Moss.

[chode_regulator]

I like everything except for the RB going down hill once he hits 30. If he is still productive, his rating should stay the same, or at least make his injury proneness go up.



Agreed. Turning a certain age really means nothing, even in the NFL. Player A may turn 30 and never be productive again, while player B is productive for several more years. Shoudl be based on most current stats/projected next year stats.


I think it looks great and realistic. No one is able to focus clearly on everything in their eyesight.


Hmmmm...while I have to agree....my eyesight looks nothing like that.
If yours does, I would suggest a visit to the eye doctor

[Cry Havoc]

Madden Football has sucked since the first playstation game.

It's not even worth playing. I would rather not play a football game than one that's pretending to be a sim but is a horrible representation of the sport.

THE best football games are as follows:

1a. NFL 2k5
1b. Tecmo Super Bowl

That's it.

[IronMexican]

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/04/20/a-sneak-peek-at-the-wildcat-in-madden-nfl-10.aspx

The Wild Cat formation

[BacktoBasics]

I'm pretty happy with the direction of the upcoming game. No surprise their exclusivity agreement with the NFL is up this year.

[z0sa]

I'm pretty happy with the direction of the upcoming game. No surprise their exclusivity agreement with the NFL is up this year.

link?

i was fairly sure EA had it for a much longer time

[IronMexican]

EA re-upped it a couple years back. Was. I think they have like 5 years left.

[IronMexican]

http://xbox.joystiq.com/2008/02/12/ea-extends-nfl-license-into-2013/


There you go. 2k COULD have a chance to get back into it in 2012.

[BacktoBasics]

Dammit!!!!!

[stretch]

Madden Football has sucked since the first playstation game.

It's not even worth playing. I would rather not play a football game than one that's pretending to be a sim but is a horrible representation of the sport.

THE best football games are as follows:

1a. NFL 2k5
1b. Tecmo Super Bowl

That's it.

the only people that say this are people that suck at madden, upset that they cant "Bo Jackson" over everyone like in Tecmo Bowl.

But Tecmo Super Bowl did kick ass.

[MiamiHeat]

lol

[BacktoBasics]

The new trailer debut was last night. Considerably smoother animations. I was particularly impressed with the collision detection and tighter animations between the DL and OL....quite frankly I think it looked amazing. The gang tackling look a thousand times better too.

Looks to be a lot more polished overall.

[dirk4mvp]

Fitzgerald and Polamalu on the cover.

[J.T.]

Fitzgerald and Polamalu on the cover.

well now Stealer definitely ain't repeating.

[Trainwreck2100]

the only people that say this are people that suck at madden, upset that they cant "Bo Jackson" over everyone like in Tecmo Bowl.

But Tecmo Super Bowl did kick ass.

09 froze half the time online. 08 gave up all kinds of bullshit ints. 2k was so much better EA gave up improving and just decided to monopolize. Competiton breads innovation and 2k was always the better product

[BacktoBasics]

09 froze half the time online. 08 gave up all kinds of bullshit ints. 2k was so much better EA gave up improving and just decided to monopolize. Competiton breads innovation and 2k was always the better product
As much as I agree with what you're saying there is going to be a difference this year. I've never bought the EA hype but the changes are evident. The producers and developers are communicating for the first time ever. They've posted some impressive changes. The new faces are making a difference. Its been a steady move up since Ortiz left and I think this year is going to be a big leap.

[IronMexican]

Damn, already beat me to it

MADDEN NFL 10 TRAILER (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48376.html)

http://www.profootballtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/madden10cover.JPG

Breaking Down the First Madden NFL 10 Screenshot (http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/2009/03/breaking-down-the-first-madden-nfl-10-screenshot/)

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:arrow: Procedural Awareness

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/02/01/madden-nfl-10-first-look.aspx


It is my pleasure to introduce Madden’s newest piece of technology, one that is also shared within many of the EA SPORTS games, called Procedural Awareness. What is it? We’ll you’ve likely heard of “head tracking” with IK. If you haven’t, it’s a way to turn the players head around to face a target dynamically, without the need for canned animations. Well, think of Procedural Awareness (PA for short) as the “next-gen” version of head tracking. Since it is so early in the year, unfortunately I can’t show you any videos of it running in the game, but I can show some “tech demos” of sorts:

Procedural Awareness Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5DBg1tnA0g&eurl=http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/02/01/madden-nfl-10-first-look.aspx)

WR/DB Improvements (Route Running. Man Coverage. Jostling)

http://www.pastapadre.com/6762/madden-10-wrdb-improvements


Keeping with the weekly trend of Madden 2010 info being posted on the Inside EA Blog, today lead designer Ian Cummings has detailed some of the improvements made to the Wide Receiver and Defensive Backs positions. This includes the return of the much needed defensive assignments, route running and man coverage, and various WR/DB interactions. You can check out the full blog posting which includes some demonstration videos here.

Second, we took a page from the FIFA team and added in the concept of ‘jostling’. Personally I am extremely stoked to have this in the game because I’ve written a design for it for 5+ years in a row…unfortunately we just never had the technology to accomplish it. The ‘jostling’ concept is a set of looping 2-man animations that can play for the WR and DB as they run downfield. The main reason that I am so big on these animations is that it really helps alleviate a balance problem that has existed in Madden for years. I’m talking about the fact that traditionally you can send a player with a 99 speed rating (regardless of his other ratings like route running, catching, etc) on a streak and easily get behind a defender in man coverage. In real life, regardless of the difference in speed, a good defensive back can use his body to keep the receiver in check… a fly route is rarely an untouched foot-race sprint to the endzone.

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Route Running Improvement Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t30-l1AU6gY&eurl=http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/03/02/madden-nfl-10-improvements-to-wr-db-interaction.aspx)

Man Coverage Improvement Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUy0NCOM0Y4&eurl=http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/03/02/madden-nfl-10-improvements-to-wr-db-interaction.aspx)

WR/DB Jostling Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYm4a4k4uxk&eurl=http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/03/02/madden-nfl-10-improvements-to-wr-db-interaction.aspx)

Player Momentum

http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/2009/03/player-momentum-in-madden-nfl-10/


Simply put, you can consider the "turn rate" of a player the amount of width it takes him to run in a complete circle (at varying speeds). By a 'circle', I don't mean a spin move, I mean running in a full circle. Obviously a player running at top speed will 'carve' a very wide circle, while a player walking or jogging can complete that circle in a very tiny radius. Inevitably, if you try to run at top speed but still make the circle tighter, you will have to slow down (think about the speed a baseball player loses as he has to come around 3rd base). This turn rate also varies quite a bit on the athletic ability of the player. A player like Darren Sproles can maintain a much higher top speed while turning than say Brandon Jacobs.

With that description out of the way, how does that apply to Madden NFL 10? Well, as most should know by now we are really pushing for an authentic and realistic experience, so we have obviously been pushing to create more realistic turn rates for all of our players. Before we even started changing things for this year though, we did a bit of a case study on some of our previous games. We tested how many yards it took an agile player (Tomlinson for example) running at full speed to curve / turn and face 90 degrees towards the sideline. Check out the result video below:

Previous examples of turn rates in Madden games video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrWuVtTDvd0&eurl=http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/03/16/player-momentum-in-madden-nfl-10.aspx)

Prototype on ballcarrier turn rates video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuQyg_RfqgY&eurl=http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/03/16/player-momentum-in-madden-nfl-10.aspx)

Comparison of defensive turn rates video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI4lYBx3xE&eurl=http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/03/16/player-momentum-in-madden-nfl-10.aspx)

Creating "Sim-Style" Gameplay

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/03/09/creating-sim-style-gameplay-in-madden-nfl-10.aspx


Over the course of the years, Madden has increased the speed of specific animations (and sets of animations) here and there across many areas. Typically, these are put in place to fix small bugs like times where maybe a handoff won't match up, or a situation where maybe the user doesn't have enough control. However, these small little changes can actually manifest upon themselves and end up causing pretty big issues in the game. VERY early in the cycle (like August) we committed to remove all these arbitrary speed alterations for Madden NFL 10, and truly fix the root issues that they were put in place to handle. As an example of a speed alteration gone wrong, below is a video showcasing exactly WHY the fullback dive is so effective.

FB Dive changes video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbwkHympnpI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Finsideblog%2Eeasports%2Ecom%2Far chive%2F2009%2F03%2F09%2Fcreating%2Dsim%2Dstyle%2D gameplay%2Din%2Dmadden%2Dnfl%2D10%2Easpx&feature=player_embedded)

QB Drop animation changes video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWQolrvt-4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Finsideblog%2Eeasports%2Ecom%2Far chive%2F2009%2F03%2F09%2Fcreating%2Dsim%2Dstyle%2D gameplay%2Din%2Dmadden%2Dnfl%2D10%2Easpx&feature=player_embedded)

:arrow: Sideline Catches

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You throw a nice pass to your receiver as he breaks open on an out route towards the sidelines, but your WR plays a catch animation that gets his foot just out of bounds, nullifying your perfect vision as a QB (sorry, bad pun). This is one of the more frustrating occurrences across all skill levels for every Madden player. We knew we had to fix this.

There are three main things that we will do for Madden NFL 10 to improve this area:
1. Added AI to make players dynamically slow down as they approach the sideline (instead of running full speed)
2. Allow early animation branching at the end of certain animations so they learn to better drag their feet
3. Dynamically "steer" the catch animation as he approaches the sideline. This emulates what a real NFL player does as he tries to keep his feet in bounds...he will try to 'curve' upfield to maximize his shot at getting his feet down where possible.

Check out the video below - an example from Madden NFL 09 is on the left while the new technology you'll see in Madden NFL 10 is at work on the right. You can pretend that the out of bounds line is the edge of the grid. In the example, you can see how just a slight bit of "steering" on a catch animation can mean the difference between a pass being incomplete and complete. You'll also notice how the same animation can branch into a more realistic "toe drag" ending and make the player look much more aware of his surroundings. We can also make players with higher awareness and agility ratings actually "steer" even more upfield, which could hypothetically even keep guys in bounds and able to keep running up field (probably wouldn't apply in this example though).

Sideline Catch Video (http://vimeo.com/3962403?pg=embed&sec=)

:arrow: Franchise Mode Improvements

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/tags/Madden/default.aspx


The big thing we’re working on as we speak is the Draft logic. I promise you…you will not see the Colts take a QB in the first round and then in the 3rd, 5th, etc. These type of logic tweaks are happening across the board and the draft is no different.


Older players will digress much faster. In fact, when a running back hits 30, he’s going downhill at warp speed.

• Younger players will progress quickly if they play well. We’re talking up 10 points in overall if he has a great year.

• Veteran players will still progress, but not substantially. They can also digress if they play poorly.


The “potential” rating is another sort of ‘hidden’ addition that we are changing up this year to impact progression (and Franchise mode overall). Every player in the game has a potential rating that he cannot exceed (a la NFL Head Coach 09). This year, we’re actually exposing that rating so you’ll have an idea why your player is not progressing - typically a situation where his potential is maxed out. Exposing this rating also help quite a bit in making personnel decisions when contracts are up. One key detail here is that you’ll only see potential for players on your own team. CPU player potentials will be hidden.

:arrow: Adaptive A.I

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/tags/Madden/default.aspx


Another really cool part of this system is actually the ability to directly modify attributes under the hood, simulating true on the fly “learning” of a defender. For example, if an offense is running the exact same play over and over again for big gains, we would boost the defense’s play recognition ratings to emulate them learning for their mistakes to have a better chance to react when they see the same look again. Same goes for something like continuous out routes…a defender will get better and better at man coverage if you keep running the same route over and over again, but would drop back down to his original rating if you keep mixing it up. It should also be said that were keeping some integrity by not modifying physical attributes like speed, jumping, or acceleration.

:arrow: The Wildcat! RAWR! (more info to come)

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/04/20/a-sneak-peek-at-the-wildcat-in-madden-nfl-10.aspx


Since we don't actually have a ton of time to spend on the blog, and the marketing / PR folks will be releasing a ton of news about the game anyway, we thought the least we could do was just drop a few quick screenshots to showcase some new stuff we've added.

http://insideblog.easports.com/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/inside_5F00_ea._5F00_IanBlog/Wildcat_5F00_1.jpg

[leemajors]

the only people that say this are people that suck at madden, upset that they cant "Bo Jackson" over everyone like in Tecmo Bowl.

But Tecmo Super Bowl did kick ass.

the more realistic it got, the less i liked it. 96 on the genesis was my favorite, beating out 1994 on the super nintendo where you could sweep right and left alternately with emmit smith and hurdle kick anyone behind you in the face. I rushed for 1000 yards in one game once.

[ManuTP9]

Madden Football has sucked since the first playstation game.

It's not even worth playing. I would rather not play a football game than one that's pretending to be a sim but is a horrible representation of the sport.

THE best football games are as follows:

1a. NFL 2k5
1b. Tecmo Super Bowl

That's it.

hell yeah i used to always play NFL 2k5 that game was good.

[IronMexican]

Chris Johnson a baller

http://www.gamespot.com/sports/blogs/sports-blog/909097139/26859233/madden-nfl-10-two-cover-stars-and-top-ten-position-ratings.html

During the show, Eisen and company revealed the top ten players at several positions in the upcoming Madden 10, as well as their overall ratings. Here's how things will break down this season:

Quarterback
(Name, Team)
1 Peyton Manning -- Indianapolis
2 Tom Brady -- New England
3 Drew Brees -- New Orleans
4 Kurt Warner -- Arizona
5 Ben Roethlisberger -- Pittsburgh
6 Donovan McNabb -- Philadelphia
7 Tony Romo -- Dallas
8 Philip Rivers -- San Diego
9 Jay Cutler -- Chicago
10 Eli Manning - New York
(Sorry, wasn't quick enough on the draw to grab the QBs' overall ratings)

Wide Receiver
(Name, Team, Overall Rating)
1 Larry Fitzgerald -- Arizona -- 99
2 Andre Johnson -- Houston -- 98
3 Steve Smith -- Carolina -- 97
4 Randy Moss -- New England -- 96
5 Reggie Wayne -- Indianapolis -- 95
6 Anquan Boldin -- Arizona -- 94
Roddy White -- Atlanta -- 94
8 Wes Welker -- New England -- 93
9 Brandon Marshall -- Denver -- 92
Calvin Johnson -- Detroit -- 92

Tight End
(Name, Team, Overall Rating)
1 Tony Gonzalez -- Atlanta -- 98
2 Jason Witten -- Dallas -- 97
3 Antonio Gates -- San Diego -- 95
4 Chris Cooley -- Washington -- 91
Dallas Clark -- Indianapolis -- 91
6 Kellen Winslow -- Tampa Bay -- 90
Heath Miller -- Pittsburgh -- 90
8 Owen Daniels -- Houston -- 89
9 John Carlson -- Seattle -- 87
10 Jeremy Shockey -- New Orleans -- 86

Running Back
(Name, Team, Overall Rating)
1 Adrian Peterson -- Minnesota -- 98
2 Brian Westbrook -- Philadelphia -- 97
3 Michael Turner -- Atlanta -- 95
DeAngelo Williams -- Carolina -- 95
5 Clinton Portis -- Washington -- 94
LaDanian Tomlinson -- San Diego -- 94
7 Steven Jackson -- St. Louis -- 93
Frank Gore -- San Francisco -- 93
9 Maurice Jones-Drew -- Jacksonville -- 92
10 Marion Barber -- Dallas -- 91

Defenders
(Name, Team, Position, Overall Rating)
1 Albert Haynesworth -- Washington -- DT -- 99
Ed Reed -- Baltimore -- FS -- 99
Troy Polamalu -- Pittsburgh -- SS -- 99
Nnamdi Asomugha -- Oakland -- CB -- 99
Jared Allen -- Minnesota -- DE -- 99
6 James Harrison -- Pittsburgh -- OLB - 98
Justin Tuck -- New York Giants -- DE -- 98
DeMarcus Ware -- Dallas -- OLB -- 98
Adrian Wilson -- Arizona -- SS -- 98
Patrick Willis -- San Francisco -- MLB -- 98

Next up were the movers and shakers, the players who have had seen the biggest year-on-year swing (either positively or negatively) in their overall Madden rating. First up, the bad news:

Shakers
DeAngelo Hall -- Washington CB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 93
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 68
Difference: -25

Matt Leinart -- Arizona QB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 85
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 62
Difference: -23

Devin Thomas--Washington WR
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 81
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 63
Difference: -18

Torrey Holt -- Jacksonville WR
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 96
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 84
Difference: -12

Fred Smoot -- Washington CB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 87
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 76
Difference: -11

Finally, take a look at the players who improved most from the previous Madden game. You'll notice more than one rookie on this list:

Movers
Chris Johnson -- Oakland CB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 67
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 82
Difference: +14

Steve Slaton -- Houston RB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 74
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 87
Difference: +13

DeAngelo Williams--Carolina RB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 84
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 95
Difference: +11

Matt Forte -- Chicago RB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 80
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 89
Difference: +9

Matt Cassel -- Kansas City QB
Madden NFL 09 Overall Rating: 76
Madden NFL 10 Overall Rating: 83
Difference: +7

So there you go; a first look at some of the ratings in Madden NFL 10. Who do you think should be tops at each position in the game?

[BacktoBasics]

Great post. I really like how they've decided to spread out the ratings a little more this year.

[Cry Havoc]

the only people that say this are people that suck at madden, upset that they cant "Bo Jackson" over everyone like in Tecmo Bowl.

But Tecmo Super Bowl did kick ass.

:lol

Okay man, just keep telling yourself that.I have never found a sports game that I couldn't dominate.

But Madden isn't fun to play... so why WOULD I want to dominate it? Name the year of Madden you think is awesome and I can tell you why it sucks.

[stretch]

:lol

Okay man, just keep telling yourself that.I have never found a sports game that I couldn't dominate.

But Madden isn't fun to play... so why WOULD I want to dominate it? Name the year of Madden you think is awesome and I can tell you why it sucks.

lol butthurt over spurs loss

why dont your put your mouth where your balls are, get on PSN one day, and get curbstomped by me in some madden?

[IronMexican]

stretch has a ps3? What a noob.

[IronMexican]

DHB is gonna beast.

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[IronMexican]

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[dirk4mvp]

Brown's faster than that. Crabtree already a 84 :wow

[BacktoBasics]

There's a new blog update. Going a little further into the Pro-Tac system. This platform for pushing piles and gang tackling has me pretty fucking excited.

[stretch]

stretch has a ps3? What a noob.

i got accounts on both. i primarily play on 360, but can play on ps3 as well.

[SAtown]

I'm always a little hesitant to get excited about Madden games cuz they always end up sucking hard, but this pic looks pretty ridiculous

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[Walter Herrmann]

madden is highly overrated. saying that, ill probably pick up the NCAA game since EA decided to be a little less lazy and actually build my schools 30,000 seat stadium instead of giving us a generic 100,000 seat stadium like in last years edition. however, the best football game was 2k5, remember how good it was and remember that it was also 30 dollars cheaper than madden 05.

[IronMexican]

Best defensive player in Madden? :hat

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/sports/football/Nnamdi-Wins-Top-Ranking-in-Madden-10.html

[IronMexican]

Good news sons. There is an automatic drop-back in this Madden. What that means is the QB can't scramble till he is done with his 5 step drop-back. This is going to be good for those QB scrambles at the goal line. Scoring in there is going to get a lot harder.

[florige]

I'm determined to not give up on this game. It seems like they have gotten rid of all the stupid little glitches it has had over the last few years. I am really curious to see the halftime show, and the weekly highlights. If it is on the same level as 2k was I am sold. That is what made that game so much fun. I don't mind at all if a game is difficult, just don't make it difficult and glitchy at the same time.

[florige]

I don't understand how Flacco can not be on that list as an improved player from last year. Or Matt Ryan for that matter.

[Cry Havoc]

It's

Still

Gonna

Suck

And it's going to eat up glowing magazine/website rating reviews who play it for half a season and declare it the best football game ever, before users get ahold of it and find out that you can cause X number of fumbles per game, run for 500 yards per game, or play a cheat defense that takes advantage of the way the game runs it's offensive progression and results in a nearly unbreakable D.

Mark it down. It's happened every single freaking year. EA does not care if their product simulates the real thing down to the letter, it's going to have 10,000,000 sheep buying their game anyway. It's been shitty for 10 years (with 2003 being a possible exception), what makes this year any different?

[spursfan1000]

I'm going to get this game for Ps3, and I hope it dosen't dissapoint me.
Last Madden game I had was madden 09 for ps2 and it blowed.

[BacktoBasics]

It's

Still

Gonna

Suck

And it's going to eat up glowing magazine/website rating reviews who play it for half a season and declare it the best football game ever, before users get ahold of it and find out that you can cause X number of fumbles per game, run for 500 yards per game, or play a cheat defense that takes advantage of the way the game runs it's offensive progression and results in a nearly unbreakable D.

Mark it down. It's happened every single freaking year. EA does not care if their product simulates the real thing down to the letter, it's going to have 10,000,000 sheep buying their game anyway. It's been shitty for 10 years (with 2003 being a possible exception), what makes this year any different?I would typically agree with this type of post. However their sales numbers were down about 30% from the previous year. They pushed hard to communicate in the forums and the game developers have been up front and actively working with the public. I've seen no less than 10 gameplay shortcomings (not just visual ones) be addressed with video proof of the changes simply based on public demand on the Operation Sports forum. There are serious improvements and I think the guys developing the games have made some pretty significant strides this year. Also the inclusion of the guy who developed Head Coach looks to be a pretty good move. We should have nearly a fully transplanted Association by next year.

I think we get at least a solid product this year. Not the best ever but very solid.

[Phillip]

It's

Still

Gonna

Suck

And it's going to eat up glowing magazine/website rating reviews who play it for half a season and declare it the best football game ever, before users get ahold of it and find out that you can cause X number of fumbles per game, run for 500 yards per game, or play a cheat defense that takes advantage of the way the game runs it's offensive progression and results in a nearly unbreakable D.

Mark it down. It's happened every single freaking year. EA does not care if their product simulates the real thing down to the letter, it's going to have 10,000,000 sheep buying their game anyway. It's been shitty for 10 years (with 2003 being a possible exception), what makes this year any different?

You expect too much, instead of playing it for what it is... a fucking video game.

Yeah, there are some glitches here and there, but EVERY GAME HAS THEM. It's just that a game like Madden has such a competitive fanbase that some dickheads spend all their time trying to find ways to utilize these to their advantage. Just don't play the game with those morons. Play it the way its supposed to be played with other people who play it for the same reason, and it's a damn good game.

[resistanze]

What was that fucking Madden game that made you automatically fumble whenever you started building a lead? Madden 07? That was the last Madden I ever played.

[Cry Havoc]

You expect too much, instead of playing it for what it is... a fucking video game.

:lmao

Sorry, I guess, "Not wanting a game to suck" is setting my standards too high.

Seriously though, that's a ridiculous statement to make. Games will not get better unless gamers demand more from the people who make them. You can continue to be a sheep and shell out $60 for the SAME GAME every year, but that's now how I choose to spend my money.


Yeah, there are some glitches here and there, but EVERY GAME HAS THEM.

7 interceptions per game is not a glitch. Sorry. It's just not. There's no arguing this point, either. You're wrong. Madden isn't full of glitches. It's full of shit gameplay.


It's just that a game like Madden has such a competitive fanbase that some dickheads spend all their time trying to find ways to utilize these to their advantage.

No, it's "just that" EA has never been able to make a football game that's a faithful recreation of the sport. Being able to run the same 4 running plays for an entire season to run for 2600 yards and a 15-1 record with 38 points per game is not a result of gamers taking advantage of a system. It's a broken system that does not accurately represent football.


Just don't play the game with those morons. Play it the way its supposed to be played with other people who play it for the same reason, and it's a damn good game.

No, it isn't. Madden has not been a "damn good game" in almost a decade. NFL 2k5 is still a better football game than any Madden ever created. THAT game has glitches, but it relatively accurately depicts how a football game is supposed to work.

Madden is an arcade game disguised as a sports simulation that has never been able to give any kind of a realistic statline when the 4th quarter ends.

[J.T.]

CH is pissed because I played him on Live today and ran "PA Middle" on 3rd and goal a few times, effectively giving him no way to prevent a touchdown. My screen flashed "The connection to your opponent has been lost" a few seconds after I was up 28-3.

[Cry Havoc]

CH is pissed because I played him on Live today and ran "PA Middle" on 3rd and goal a few times, effectively giving him no way to prevent a touchdown. My screen flashed "The connection to your opponent has been lost" a few seconds after I was up 28-3.

Man, that might have a shred of credibility if I have owned a single Madden title in the past 5 years.

[IronMexican]

Thats not good news you fucking Taco!


What if I want to do a 3 step drop slant or hitch? Now I have to make it a 5 step drop. wtf

I am pretty sure they have 3, 5, and 7 step drops depending on the formation you pick.

[BacktoBasics]

http://www.pastapadre.com/9608/quick-madden-10-demo-thoughts#more-9608

Here is a video of the demo.

Game speed is slowed down.

Things I liked.

Much better O-line/D-line interaction.
Reasonable pocket.
Gang tackling on a few looked great
Unnecessary roughness penalty was a nice touch.
Game speed and general flow of the game looked much more polished
I'm loving how the cut scenes look and develop compared to years past

Over all I feel pretty good about it.

[IronMexican]

I played the demo once last night. It was ok. I don't judge games based on demo's, though. The passing release was too slow at times, though.

[IronMexican]

After playing it a second time, I am really digging it.

[dirk4mvp]

I love it.

[Phillip]

7 Step Drop? Theres no such thing as that.

actually there is.

[manufan10]

After playing it a second time, I am really digging it.



I love it.


I played the demo.. I love it. Romo's not as bad as dirk4mvp said. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

There is. But not in Madden. Its retarded to have a 7 step drop in Madden. No one runs double moves like a Dig curl or an arrow comeback.

No one even knows what those are who play madden

I disagree with this. While the majority of players who play Madden are undoubtedly those who think it's cool that they know the difference between man and zone coverage, some individuals genuinely dive into the depths of football knowledge. Some probably even know or have looked at actual NFL playbooks. Others might have coached or been deeply involved in football.

There's nothing wrong with adding things that are in the real game.

[dirk4mvp]

Balkman are you going to join our madden thing?

[Shank]

Flashing your drive won't get you banned. If anything, it voids your warranty.

What will get you banned is if you try to play a disc that's not properly stealth-patched. THAT's how you get banned. I play on a separate profile as I don't want to risk it, but the iso rips are so good these days that the discs really do play like the real thing. So much so that you can take it online, download content and updates and get away with it as though you have the real thing. I have full confidence in attempting to play a burned game (backup only, as I own the originals on every game I play) on XBL, but I'm of the sort that doesn't mind dropping the money on a game I know I'm going to wear out, ie - COD, Halo, etc.

There are plenty of ways to check the "stealthiness" of your iso. A simple Google search will do wonders.

[IronMexican]

Shank, you joining out Madden league?

[IronMexican]

I played the demo.. I love it. Romo's not as bad as dirk4mvp said. :lol

He is that bad.

[Shank]

Shank, you joining out Madden league?

I may. Giving up my gamertag might give up my real name, though. That could be bad.

[IronMexican]

I give up my shortened name on my GT. Who cares if people know you're real name.

[manufan10]

He is that bad.

I didn't have a problem with him.

[Trainwreck2100]

I give up my shortened name on my GT. Who cares if people know you're real name.

Cause he says alot of shit here that could get him in trouble in real life and finding him would be cake if he's on myspace or face book. And trust me its happened here before where one poster was pissed off and called another poster's job and almost got him fired.

[manufan10]

Cause he says alot of shit here that could get him in trouble in real life and finding him would be cake if he's on myspace or face book. And trust me its happened here before where one poster was pissed off and called another poster's job and almost got him fired.

http://www.charliedigital.com/content/binary/comment-friday-damn.jpg

Are you serious? That's pathetic!

[IronMexican]

Cause he says alot of shit here that could get him in trouble in real life and finding him would be cake if he's on myspace or face book. And trust me its happened here before where one poster was pissed off and called another poster's job and almost got him fired.

Maybe Shank works at a Library, eh?:lol

[IronMexican]

http://www.ea.com/blog/music/madden-nfl-10-official-soundtrack/

Soundtrack. I've seen worse from Madden.

[IronMexican]

And for people on 360, we're starting a Madden league thing. Not sure I've posted that in here. More than likely doing Fantasy Draft.

[IronMexican]

Ok, so we have me, dirk, 90210, ATRAIN, stretch, JT, Balkman, DoK, and possibly Steven?

[Trainwreck2100]

Maybe Shank works at a Library, eh?:lol

different poster before your time

[J.T.]

Cause he says alot of shit here that could get him in trouble in real life and finding him would be cake if he's on myspace or face book. And trust me its happened here before where one poster was pissed off and called another poster's job and almost got him fired.

lol utsa

[Shank]

Cause he says alot of shit here that could get him in trouble in real life and finding him would be cake if he's on myspace or face book. And trust me its happened here before where one poster was pissed off and called another poster's job and almost got him fired.

Agreed. I work at a place a little more far-reaching than a library and could catch some serious flack if it were to get out. All in all, I'm not worried about anyone hunting me down in person, I'd just rather not do it for the sake of my job.

Is that cryptic enough?

[Trainwreck2100]

dammit i'm not talking about Steven

[BacktoBasics]

Spent some time with the demo this weekend. One of the things I noticed right off the bat is how less herky jerky the running is. When you play NCAA (and previous maddens) I've always been annoyed by how sudden and unfluid the players look when you quickly shift from side to side. Too abrupt and the cutting is too precise. There was always a lack of momentum in the right places. This is nicely polished up. I didn't see too many 90 degree cuts on a dime like you do in previous installments. A little tron jogging but much improved overall.

For the first time I think we have a pocket. Its not perfect but I found myself stepping up more than a few times. Much better than my typical game plan of running out in the direction of the sidelines.

I threw a couple of short mid speed passes over the LB, say 10-11 yards and twice I cleared the linebacker and hit my target. I went to the replay and to my surprise it actually looked realistic. The LB was sitting about two yards off the line of scrimmage and my receiver was between 10-11 yards back. The LB even jumped and missed by a few inches. Huge improvement.

I saw one suction catch but it was minor and not nearly as extreme as years past. I was excited to see how polished the interaction between the DB and the WR is in relation to the ball. Overall No supersonic speed ups and very little to non-existent suction catching.

I think the speed of the game is fine. I enjoyed a more fluid game over the fast paced robotic version. The wind up on the pass was a little slow but wasn't a deal breaker for me. I wouldn't be surprised to see them speed it up just a smidge before the final version.

The slip animations were awesome. I saw Barber come out of the backfield and hook at about 5 yards up from scrimmage, he slipped, quickly recovered and made the catch. He swung his leg out a bit as he recovered to move up field. Met a CB about 3 yards up, hit him hard and did his typical Barber fling with an arm whaling about. Then was taken down by two others in the three man gang tackle. I nitpicked the crap out of the reply and it was near flawless.

I love how the substitutions work. So much better and easier to do. I usually play on 8 minute quarters so I could see how 9 might be better with the additional time you might spend setting up your subs mid down.

Pretty happy overall. With a full version I'll be able to see how it all comes together as far as defensive assignments how the zones look over a full game.

This is much different than last year. I'm pretty excited even more excited than I had been before the demo.

[ATRAIN]

Demo was pretty good, I like how you can fight for fumbles now. I am not so sure about the broken gang tackle. Jacobs had 3 guys tackling him at the same time and he managed to break away for 60 yards and a TD. Maybe the boys tacking sucks but come on really? The shoelace tackled in this game are nice and look good too. All in all this game is pretty sweet. The field goals are pretty diffucult if wind is against you. Folk couldnt hit a 35 yarder with almost full power. I think the game slowed down a lot compared to 09 but i got used to it by halftime.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Ok, so we have me, dirk, 90210, ATRAIN, stretch, JT, Balkman, DoK, and possibly Steven?

No dice. I'm out.

[ATRAIN]

Ok, so we have me, dirk, 90210, ATRAIN, stretch, JT, Balkman, DoK, and possibly Steven?

So we are waiting to do this when 10 comes out right? What is the release date?

[Shank]

Demo was pretty good, I like how you can fight for fumbles now. I am not so sure about the broken gang tackle. Jacobs had 3 guys tackling him at the same time and he managed to break away for 60 yards and a TD. Maybe the boys tacking sucks but come on really? The shoelace tackled in this game are nice and look good too. All in all this game is pretty sweet. The field goals are pretty diffucult if wind is against you. Folk couldnt hit a 35 yarder with almost full power. I think the game slowed down a lot compared to 09 but i got used to it by halftime.

You had that happen, too? I was up 14-0 on the Giants and had them held to all of 2 yards when Eli "DipshitFace" Manning tossed a short one to Jacobs. Ware and the entire Cowboys secondary dogpiled the sonofabitch only to have him break free for a 73-yd TD.

[ATRAIN]

You had that happen, too? I was up 14-0 on the Giants and had them held to all of 2 yards when Eli "DipshitFace" Manning tossed a short one to Jacobs. Ware and the entire Cowboys secondary dogpiled the sonofabitch only to have him break free for a 73-yd TD.

LOL WOW thats like exactlly what happened to me. It was a dump pass up the middle and I could have sworn there were at least 5 boys on him including ware and he broke free for I over 60. I wonder if they programed that in the demo to show us how that works. Its pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Yeah he put his head and shoulders down but breaking a group of like 5 def guys........no fucking way!!

[IronMexican]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEsHnoPOZcU&feature=channel


QB releases. Too lazy to add the youtube thing. Looks nice.

[Cry Havoc]

LOL WOW thats like exactlly what happened to me. It was a dump pass up the middle and I could have sworn there were at least 5 boys on him including ware and he broke free for I over 60. I wonder if they programed that in the demo to show us how that works. Its pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Yeah he put his head and shoulders down but breaking a group of like 5 def guys........no fucking way!!

If they don't fix this, it's going to be pretty sad.

There are always -- ALWAYS -- things like this in Madden that break the game. Every year it's close to being a great football game, but just like the "lock-down" defense in NBA 2k8 broke that game completely, something always breaks Madden and makes it almost unplayable.

In fairness, this might be a pretty good single player football game. But I have a feeling that once again, playing online against elite competition will be nothing but an exploit-fest of game bugs.