Have the Lakers found another gem in Shannon Brown?

[DrHouse]

I'm starting to see signs that the Lakers may have another Trevor Ariza on their hands.

Insane athleticism, natural defensive instincts, excellent finisher at the rim....all he needs to do is work on that jumpshot like Ariza did over the summer and he's a keeper.

I'd much rather see him get minutes over Fartmar or Vujabrick, that's for damn sure. Both of those imbeciles need to be jettisoned in the off season for whatever the Lakers can get.

[IronMexican]

I'd love for Brown to get Sasha and Farmar's minutes too

[Matchman]

what gem had they found in the postshaq era? trevor ariza? good luck when you need him to hit a shot when Kobe is triple-teamed by the Lebrons in the finals:lol

[DrHouse]

what gem had they found in the postshaq era? trevor ariza? good luck when you need him to hit a shot when Kobe is triple-teamed by the Lebrons in the finals:lol

That comment is too dumb for me to seriously respond to.

And Yao is soft.

[IronMexican]

I must be way out the loop. When did Theus get fired?

[Ghazi]

what gem had they found in the postshaq era? trevor ariza? good luck when you need him to hit a shot when Kobe is triple-teamed by the Lebrons in the finals:lol

Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum

[Matchman]

Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum

the lakers did not find Pau Gasol. they traded for him after Pau already established himself as one of the best PF in the league.
Bynum might be the only gem they actually found. and maybe Vujacic, too
Ariza? :lol if his 9ppg with an amazing 32% 3point shooting stat is considered "gem" to you, i guess the rockets had like 5 gems in hand :toast

[IronMexican]

LMAO by "gem", you mean trading Rudy Gay for Shane Battier? Yeah, the Rockets have a couple.

[JamStone]

No.

[Allanon]

Shannon Brown is turning out to be a really nice defender at the point. Definitely better defensively than Farmar.

Only weakness I've seen so far is his lack/reluctance to shoot the outside shots. Defensive specialist sounds about right so far...and his defense leads to his own scoring it seems.

Haven't seen too much of him actually running the PG job yet. And damn, this fool can jump through the roof.

[Matchman]

You do know you got swept this year, right bitch?

:lol truth hurts right? Ariza is just a scrub and he will be the reason why Lakers will not win the championship (unless of course PJ limits his role in the playoffs)

[ginobili's bald spot]

They didn't find a gem. He just seems like one after watching the pile of crap known as Jordan Farmar.

[ginobili's bald spot]

:lol truth hurts right? Ariza is just a scrub and he will be the reason why Lakers will not win the championship (unless of course PJ limits his role in the playoffs)

:lol Good thing no one takes you seriously.

[Matchman]

LMAO by "gem", you mean trading Rudy Gay for Shane Battier? Yeah, the Rockets have a couple.

I will do that trade again today if i had the chance. hes the best defensive player in the league and hes the reason why houston is so good in defense. besides, im not too confident that rudy gay could hit the clutch 3 pointers that Battier was routinely hitting against the lakers :king

[Biggems]

Hey Rocket fan, its ok to hate the Lakers, us Spurs fans do....but they have been to the Finals 5 times since 2000, and are the favorites to get back there this year, unfortunately. Meanwhile the Rockets cant get out of the first round, that is when they make the playoffs.

[Matchman]

:lol Good thing no one takes you seriously.

lets see who will be the one laughing when kobe would be triple-teamed and he would pass it out to a teammate only to find Ariza bricking yet another jumper :lol

[ginobili's bald spot]

im not too confident that rudy gay could hit the clutch 3 pointers that Battier was routinely hitting against the lakers :king

Ya those "clutch" 3's really came in handy. Leading your team to all those losses.

[Biggems]

Ariza is a solid role player, nothing special. He fits well with our system though... much like Battier.

I wish the Spurs had Ariza and Battier. That would be sweet.

[Matchman]

Hey Rocket fan, its ok to hate the Lakers, us Spurs fans do....but they have been to the Finals 5 times since 2000, and are the favorites to get back there this year, unfortunately. Meanwhile the Rockets cant get out of the first round, that is when they make the playoffs.

this might be the worst year of the decade for Spurs fans to talk shit :toast

[ginobili's bald spot]

Ariza is a solid role player, nothing special. He fits well with our system though... much like Battier.

Except we didn't have to trade Rudy Gay to get him. Nice going Rockets.

[Matchman]

Ya those "clutch" 3's really came in handy. Leading your team to all those losses.

those clutch 3s did not cause the loss. its just kobe was too good. maybe you should use some logic?

[Biggems]

this might be the worst year of the decade for Spurs fans to talk shit :toast

and yet we are still currently ahead of you in the standings. im not talking shit. i am just trying to bring you back to reality, my good man. LA and SA are the two team in the West who have been dominant over the past decade. i find it silly for other teams fans to try and insult them and make them out to be mediocre.....cause if LA and SA are mediocre and have dominated, what does that say about the teams they are dominating.

[ginobili's bald spot]

this might be the worst year of the decade for Spurs fans to talk shit :toast

Ya I'm sure they really feel bad about that coming from a Rockets fan. Every year this decade is a bad year to talk shit for you.

[Biggems]

Hes just drunk on that victory tonight. He'll sober up in the monring and realize how stupid he sounds.

i hate your team with a passion....it sickens me to see them back atop the standings. but hey, at least i can respect the history and success of your franchise, even if i loath the team.

[Matchman]

Ariza is a solid role player, nothing special. He fits well with our system though... much like Battier.

now this is more like it. hes a solid player but yall act like Ariza is like the secret weapon of the Lakers.

[j.dizzle]

what are you 13 years old? Rockets dont even know what the 2nd round looks like & ur heere talking crap to Laker & Spurs fans?

[j.dizzle]

oh & make sure Ron Artest takes his ADD pills before the playoffs start.

[Killakobe81]

Battier best defender in the league? ahh no. He is good defender and hits the corner 3's well I would take him on my team definitely ...but dont exaggerate he is only slightly better than Ariza ...he makes more money and was drafted much higher so by those terms Ariza is a gem because we got him for our bench scraps ...

[j.dizzle]

Battier best defender in the league? ahh no. He is good defender and hits the corner 3's well I would take him on my team definitely ...but dont exaggerate he is only slightly better than Ariza ...he makes more money and was drafted much higher so by those terms Ariza is a gem because we got him for our bench scraps ...

what are you talking about? brian cook was the next tim duncan :lol & Maurice evans was the next michael jordan

[cobbler]

lets see who will be the one laughing when kobe would be triple-teamed and he would pass it out to a teammate only to find Ariza bricking yet another jumper :lol

FG%
Battier .407
Ariza .460

3pt%
Battier .377
Ariza .326

reb per game
Battier 4.7
Ariza 4.4

steal per game
Battier 0.8
Ariza 1.7

point per game
Battier 7.2
Ariza 8.9

assists per game
Battier 2.3
Ariza 1.8


Battier averages 33.8 mins and Ariza 24.5 so for an avg of 36 mins... Ariza is better in every single category excpet 3pt % where Battier holds a whopping .377 average over Arizas .326 Hmmmmmmmmmmm

ohhhh and lets not forget....

Battier $5,833,600
Ariza $3,100,000

Our gem shines brighter and costs less. :wow

[ginobili's bald spot]

^^^ And.... Rudy Gay. :lol

[dirk4mvp]

What kind of retard would rather have Battier over Gay?

[cobbler]

What kind of retard would rather have Battier over Gay?

Not sure even a retard would be that stupid.

[Ron Ron Artest]

anyone who thinks ariza is better than battier is an idiot.

[carrao45]

and yet we are still currently ahead of you in the standings. im not talking shit. i am just trying to bring you back to reality, my good man. LA and SA are the two team in the West who have been dominant over the past decade. i find it silly for other teams fans to try and insult them and make them out to be mediocre.....cause if LA and SA are mediocre and have dominated, what does that say about the teams they are dominating.

thats one of the smartest posts ive seen on this board:toast

[BUMP]

thats one of the smartest posts ive seen on this board:toast

not so much

[Killakobe81]

what are you talking about? brian cook was the next tim duncan :lol & Maurice evans was the next michael jordan

yes and at one time Farmar was the next Tony Parker amd Walton the 2nd coming of his dad ...ahhh well ...

[carrao45]

not so much

will it was smarter than any of your quotes you dumbass motherfucker

[Killakobe81]

anyone who thinks ariza is better than battier is an idiot.

Battier is better and should be 4 years at Duke ...MCdonald's all-american national championship, a top 10 draft pick makes a starter's salary ...

Ariza 2nd round pick, traded twice makes far less money, yet his stats are close to battiers ...now granted Battier does thngs well that dont show up in the stat book like taking charges ...

I agree he is BETTER but not by much ...

[Ron Ron Artest]

Battier is better and should be 4 years at Duke ...MCdonald's all-american national championship, a top 10 draft pick makes a starter's salary ...

Ariza 2nd round pick, traded twice makes far less money, yet his stats are close to battiers ...now granted Battier does thngs well that dont show up in the stat book like taking charges ...

I agree he is BETTER but not by much ...

Well, battier is much bettier.

[turiaf for president]

giving up cook and evans who were not in the rotation, for a lil known athletic youngster wasnt much of a risk. it was low risk high reward type of deal. now ariza isnt a "gem" in the sense that hes going to be a star. but for what they gave up and what he means to the team, he is definitely a gem. im willing to bet 90% of the GM's in the league would trade their 1st wingman off the bench for ariza.

[KidCongo]

Brown can't shoot from the outside and has no idea how to play PG in the NBA.

Dude used to be like a deer in the headlights for the Cavs.

[21_Blessings]

I'd take Ariza over Battier at this point in their careers. Ariza's man defense isn't as good, but it's close and he's much better at creating turnovers. Main thing is, Ariza's like 8 years younger and has the ability to score off the dribble and finish at the rim.

[Ron Ron Artest]

id rather have von wafer

[Trainwreck2100]

FG%
Battier .407
Ariza .460

3pt%
Battier .377
Ariza .326

reb per game
Battier 4.7
Ariza 4.4

steal per game
Battier 0.8
Ariza 1.7

point per game
Battier 7.2
Ariza 8.9

assists per game
Battier 2.3
Ariza 1.8


Battier averages 33.8 mins and Ariza 24.5 so for an avg of 36 mins... Ariza is better in every single category excpet 3pt % where Battier holds a whopping .377 average over Arizas .326 Hmmmmmmmmmmm

ohhhh and lets not forget....

Battier $5,833,600
Ariza $3,100,000

Our gem shines brighter and costs less. :wow


???

[Muser]

Is Brown the one where the Laker bench went crazy after he blocked a shot?

[Allanon]

Is Brown the one where the Laker bench went crazy after he blocked a shot?

Yah, I think that's the guy. Crazy ass hops for a point guard.

C2zyWVieESg

[JoeTait75]

Well, leaping ability has never been a problem for Shannon. Problem with the Cavaliers was that he was slow to catch on mentally and he was a tweener- not a good enough shooter to play SG, not a good enough passer to play PG. He couldn't break into Cleveland's guard rotation, which was godawful at the time.

But if he's advanced to the point where he can contribute for a championship-caliber team, God bless him. I was hoping he'd be another Caron Butler when the Cavaliers drafted him.

[IronMexican]

I'd take Ariza over Battier. Dude's only 23.

[TheMACHINE]

Yah, I think that's the guy. Crazy ass hops for a point guard.

C2zyWVieESg

man..everytime i watch that, i underestimate how the block looks...its like i get surprised each time

[Many PackYao]

what are you 13 years old? Rockets dont even know what the 2nd round looks like & ur heere talking crap to Laker & Spurs fans?
Nope, we can still talk mess to the Spurs fans about how their team doesn't know what back to back or repeating means.:lolYou guys act like the Rockets miss the playoffs every year or something.