GOP govs get dose of stimulus reality

[JoeChalupa]

GOP govs get dose of stimulus reality (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21086.html)

The list of governors threatening to decline federal stimulus money last month read like a list of Republicans considering running for president in 2012: Governors Mark Sanford, Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin led the anti-stimulus charge.

But what began with a bang is ending with something closer to a whimper. All three of those governors have been forced to scale back their expectations, to varying degree, as the push of conservative philosophy gave way to the pull of political reality.

All three found that praise from the conservative movement in Washington meant nothing to furious state legislators of both parties. And in the end, along with other conservative Republican governors, the three submitted letters in recent days asking to be eligible for federal funds, a spokesman for the White House Office of Management and Budget confirmed.

“We’ve tried to compromise in a variety of different ways and now we’ve gotten to … a position well past the halfway mark,” Sanford told POLITICO in an interview, conceding that, “I got beaten up pretty bad on it.”

Jindal, meanwhile, toned down his firm opposition and turned his focus to a much narrower rejection of two pots of money; Palin, too, has narrowed her objections and promised to work with legislators who want the money.

“At this point it looks like everybody’s on board with the program,” said Tom Gavin, an OMB spokesman.

The governors’ shifts from a national ideological offensive against Obama to a defensive damage control approach at home reveals the degree to which Republicans are still struggling to find a coherent path of opposition to the president, and the extent to which governors’ mansions — often seen as ideal steppingstones to the White House — can derail political careers in tough economic times.


Those damn flip-floppers. :lol

[George Gervin's Afro]

GOP govs get dose of stimulus reality (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21086.html)

The list of governors threatening to decline federal stimulus money last month read like a list of Republicans considering running for president in 2012: Governors Mark Sanford, Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin led the anti-stimulus charge.

But what began with a bang is ending with something closer to a whimper. All three of those governors have been forced to scale back their expectations, to varying degree, as the push of conservative philosophy gave way to the pull of political reality.

All three found that praise from the conservative movement in Washington meant nothing to furious state legislators of both parties. And in the end, along with other conservative Republican governors, the three submitted letters in recent days asking to be eligible for federal funds, a spokesman for the White House Office of Management and Budget confirmed.

“We’ve tried to compromise in a variety of different ways and now we’ve gotten to … a position well past the halfway mark,” Sanford told POLITICO in an interview, conceding that, “I got beaten up pretty bad on it.”

Jindal, meanwhile, toned down his firm opposition and turned his focus to a much narrower rejection of two pots of money; Palin, too, has narrowed her objections and promised to work with legislators who want the money.

“At this point it looks like everybody’s on board with the program,” said Tom Gavin, an OMB spokesman.

The governors’ shifts from a national ideological offensive against Obama to a defensive damage control approach at home reveals the degree to which Republicans are still struggling to find a coherent path of opposition to the president, and the extent to which governors’ mansions — often seen as ideal steppingstones to the White House — can derail political careers in tough economic times.


Those damn flip-floppers. :lol

Don't worry they have tea parties lined up!:lmao

[Nbadan]

Don't worry they have tea parties lined up

Speaking of the tea parties, where not the original tea parties thrown to protest taxes and regulation without representation? How in the hell does that compare to what we have today?

[balli]

Ha ha, ha, ha... ha... ha.

[Wild Cobra]

Speaking of the tea parties, where not the original tea parties thrown to protest taxes and regulation without representation? How in the hell does that compare to what we have today?

It was so much more than that.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I thought the GOP governors werE going to thumb their noses at wASHINGTON? :lmao

[baseline bum]

LMAO @ Palin, Jindal, and No-Name.

[LnGrrrR]

Cmon conservatives, no righteous indignation at this flip flop?

[exstatic]

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/c/S/2/palin-fail.jpghttp://www.43rdstateblues.com/images/jindal-fail.jpg

[angrydude]

Speaking of the tea parties, where not the original tea parties thrown to protest taxes and regulation without representation? How in the hell does that compare to what we have today?


lol

inflation IS SILENT TAXATION

and I didn't elect the FED. nobody did. they are bankers.

you're welcome.

[ChumpDumper]

lol

[The Franchise]

GOP govs get dose of stimulus reality (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21086.html)

The list of governors threatening to decline federal stimulus money last month read like a list of Republicans considering running for president in 2012: Governors Mark Sanford, Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin led the anti-stimulus charge.

But what began with a bang is ending with something closer to a whimper. All three of those governors have been forced to scale back their expectations, to varying degree, as the push of conservative philosophy gave way to the pull of political reality.

All three found that praise from the conservative movement in Washington meant nothing to furious state legislators of both parties. And in the end, along with other conservative Republican governors, the three submitted letters in recent days asking to be eligible for federal funds, a spokesman for the White House Office of Management and Budget confirmed.

“We’ve tried to compromise in a variety of different ways and now we’ve gotten to … a position well past the halfway mark,” Sanford told POLITICO in an interview, conceding that, “I got beaten up pretty bad on it.”

Jindal, meanwhile, toned down his firm opposition and turned his focus to a much narrower rejection of two pots of money; Palin, too, has narrowed her objections and promised to work with legislators who want the money.

“At this point it looks like everybody’s on board with the program,” said Tom Gavin, an OMB spokesman.

The governors’ shifts from a national ideological offensive against Obama to a defensive damage control approach at home reveals the degree to which Republicans are still struggling to find a coherent path of opposition to the president, and the extent to which governors’ mansions — often seen as ideal steppingstones to the White House — can derail political careers in tough economic times.


Those damn flip-floppers. :lol
Bitches. :lmao:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

lol

inflation IS SILENT TAXATION



:lmao

[angrydude]

Then you sit there and wonder why the middle class has so much less purchasing power than it did 20 years ago.

When you tax purchasing power away from one group and give it to another what is that called again? a tax.

[ChumpDumper]

:rollin

[MannyIsGod]

Then you sit there and wonder why the middle class has so much less purchasing power than it did 20 years ago.

When you tax purchasing power away from one group and give it to another what is that called again? a tax.

:lmao


You think inflation is the cause of the middle class' lack of wealth today? Wow.

[angrydude]

:lmao


You think inflation is the cause of the middle class' lack of wealth today? Wow.

Because it needs to be stated that things can't have multiple causes.:rolleyes

When wages don't go up matching inflation then, yes, that is a cause.

Or do you think everyone's salary is going up 6% next year?

Our rulers in DC just love you don't they?

[MannyIsGod]

Because it needs to be stated that things can't have multiple causes.:rolleyes

When wages don't go up matching inflation then, yes, that is a cause.

Or do you think everyone's salary is going up 6% next year?

Our rulers in DC just love you don't they?


You're the dude swimming in the ocean complaining that if it rains you're going to get wet.

[angrydude]

you're the dude who can't tell the difference between rain and the ocean

Or haven't you heard?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/19/business/econwatch/entry4877724.shtml

Just because taking a little bit of a prescription drug won't kill you--maybe it helps certain things--doesn't mean you won't die from an overdose.

And it certainly doesn't mean its chemical composition is somehow changed either way.

[angrydude]

you're right about one thing though: nobody complains about low inflation.

No one complains when taxes are low either.

Doesn't mean they aren't two sides of the same coin: taking away your ability to buy things and giving it to someone else.

[MannyIsGod]

Then you sit there and wonder why the middle class has so much less purchasing power than it did 20 years ago.

When you tax purchasing power away from one group and give it to another what is that called again? a tax.


you're the dude who can't tell the difference between rain and the ocean

Or haven't you heard?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/19/business/econwatch/entry4877724.shtml

Just because taking a little bit of a prescription drug won't kill you--maybe it helps certain things--doesn't mean you won't die from an overdose.

And it certainly doesn't mean its chemical composition is somehow changed either way.


you're right about one thing though: nobody complains about low inflation.

No one complains when taxes are low either.

Doesn't mean they aren't two sides of the same coin: taking away your ability to buy things and giving it to someone else.

Try to keep your shit in order please. You attributed the lack of middle class purchasing power today to inflation then try to use fears of FUTURE inflation to back it up?

[florige]

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/c/S/2/palin-fail.jpghttp://www.43rdstateblues.com/images/jindal-fail.jpg



You can't fault them for trying. :lol They are pulling out all the stops though. Today I read an article on CNN that critisized Obama for bowing to the Saudi King. If that even was a bow..:rolleyes Bush all but raped the guy when he was over there with the kissing and the hand holding. The GOP reeks of desperation these days.

[balli]

you're right about one thing though: nobody complains about low inflation.
That would be called deflation and it destroyed Japan's economy in the nineties and gave rise to Nazism.

[angrydude]

Try to keep your shit in order please. You attributed the lack of middle class purchasing power today to inflation then try to use fears of FUTURE inflation to back it up?

I was addressing your original criticism of inflation not being a tax as I had already addressed your middle class point by pointing out that I agree that many things can contribute to situation. While inflation is a significant factor, it hardly precludes whatever causes you're thinking of from also being considered.

and 3% over the course of 30 years does add up after a while even while nobody even notices its happening. It wouldn't be a big deal if that money found its way back into the hands of all employees, but because it doesn't, because instead it goes to whoever the government deems is in the most need (certain poor ppl, or certain corporations), it is essentially a tax.

the people who get it last are essentially screwed.

If it didn't address your point than maybe you should be more clear about what exactly you are criticizing instead of stopping at vague metaphors.

thanks for playing though.


That would be called deflation and it destroyed Japan's economy in the nineties and gave rise to Nazism.

deflation is negative inflation where the money supply is shrinking, not low inflation which the money supply is growing slowly.

[RandomGuy]

"where's my foot.... hmmm... there it is... BANG!!"

:lmao

Mmmm schadenfreude with minty topping.