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poop
04-10-2009, 10:27 PM
ok. theres lots of hate for this guy. BUT, i think hes proved himself a solid backup SF.
next season we need to drop vaughn, oberto, bonner, and maybe several others will be dropped. but considering how hard it is to find a SF...im sure we can find several young studs to fill key roles next year, but id keep Ime over vaughn, oberto, bonner, and maybe even some others.

:hat

SpursFan0728
04-10-2009, 10:32 PM
Props to him for a great game!

Manufan909
04-10-2009, 10:39 PM
So you want to pay Bonners salary for next season? Cuz no other team will, except maybe GSW.

Mugen
04-10-2009, 10:44 PM
no.

HarlemHeat37
04-10-2009, 10:45 PM
let's see how he looks in the playoffs, and then maybe he can come back for cheap as a bench warmer..

BWS-1994
04-10-2009, 10:46 PM
For what price?

timvp
04-10-2009, 10:47 PM
For what price?
He'd have to shoot lights out in the playoffs to get more than $1.5M per year from anyone. If he doesn't improve much, he's probably a vet minimum player.

GabeIsGone
04-10-2009, 10:50 PM
out of our 3 sf (bowen, finley, udoka) two should be replaced this offseason.

underdawg
04-10-2009, 10:55 PM
So you want to pay Bonners salary for next season? Cuz no other team will, except maybe GSW.

That's a contract mistake that the Spurs are going to have to live with. It shouldn't lead to another mistake. If Ime continues to improve on defense, they would be short sighted to let go of him. Bonner has improved his shot and given Pop a big that can spread the defense, but he continues to be less than adequate on defense and at the end of the day that outweighs any offensive value that he might have.

poop
04-10-2009, 10:57 PM
all im saying is Udoka > vaughn, bonner, oberto, younger than finley, etc etc..

loveforthegame
04-10-2009, 11:02 PM
out of our 3 sf (bowen, finley, udoka) two should be replaced this offseason.

Agreed.

I'd be surprised if Finley doesn't use his player option so I think we can assume he's back next year.

With Pop not playing Bowen much I can assume he'll be gone this off season. Retired most likely.

I think Udoka is the odd man out which wouldn't disappoint me at all.

ducks
04-10-2009, 11:12 PM
all im saying is Udoka > vaughn, bonner, oberto, younger than finley, etc etc..

timvp is better then those players

crc21209
04-10-2009, 11:13 PM
Ime is so on/off I don't know what to think of him sometimes. The last time he had a pretty damn good game like this one was the Houston game at home. Since then he hadnt contributed much. Let's see how he does in the PO's then..we'll see.

HarlemHeat37
04-10-2009, 11:22 PM
I've NEVER looked at Ime shoot and thought that it was going in..I'm always prepared for a brick..he's also an average defender, unless he's matched up against bigger SFs..he also has poor shot selection..

he has some positives too though..

he's tough, he doesn't mind getting dirty, and he's surprisingly a very good passer..

Road Warrior
04-10-2009, 11:27 PM
It all comes down to if Ime makes his shots or not. Thats all he really has offensively so hopefully he has more on nights than off come Playoff time. Thats all we can really hope for as far as Ime is concerned.

EricB
04-10-2009, 11:33 PM
Udoka IMO was a big part of the win tonight.

Great game from Ime.

TDMVPDPOY
04-10-2009, 11:42 PM
udoka is a smart man, he wont ask for more than whats his worth, he ask for what his on now, then retires and goes back to africa and live like a king with the shit currency rates hahahahhahaa

SenorSpur
04-10-2009, 11:51 PM
I've NEVER looked at Ime shoot and thought that it was going in..I'm always prepared for a brick..he's also an average defender, unless he's matched up against bigger SFs..he also has poor shot selection..

he has some positives too though..

he's tough, he doesn't mind getting dirty, and he's surprisingly a very good passer..

and he rebounds very well, too.

VI_Massive
04-10-2009, 11:55 PM
I'm iffy on Udoka. If he can be had for a low price and low number of years, and we find significant help elsewhere on the wing, I'd be OK with it. He brings some good stuff to the table, some unique stuff like his physicality and rebounding from the wing. He's gotta be like a 10th-12th man though, nothing more.

NewJerSpur
04-11-2009, 12:14 AM
There's nothing compelling about Ime's game that warrants the NEED to have to keep him. As has been mentioned already, he passes better than one might expect (especially on the move, surprisingly), doesn't give ground when being posted up, and can hit from long range, but he doesn't bring anything consistently outstanding to the table. That said, I hope he goes off in the playoffs.

timtonymanu
04-11-2009, 12:15 AM
Udoka is very inconsistent. One night he'll be scoring and defending well. Other nights he'll be 2-9 and being slower than usual on D. I do like his rebounding though. I would keep him but only if it is not gonna cost Hairston's development.

holcs50
04-11-2009, 04:06 AM
God some of you guys are so game-by-game. Like be mellow-dont throw a hissy fit if someone has one bad game and don't cream your pants if a guy has one good game. Ime sucks. Because he had a good game doesn't make him all the sudden a decent player. Hes a NBDL player. I give him congrats for a good game but I also don't jump all over it saying we should keep him!!! Are you kidding? I hope so. I'll be very disappointed if he's on the roster next year. Tho if he plays consistently well through the playoffs (which unfortunately it looks like hes going to get good pt) then ill come here and say im a dumbass, and hes worth keeping.

BackHome
04-11-2009, 01:36 PM
Haha....I remember this guy had like fifteen page post on SR.....and I was like why is everyone on this guy band wagon? The guy is a decent bench player but he has no upside and I would rather bring in a young guy who could actualy get better over time.....Gist, or Casspi....

You know either next year or the following we will be saying the same damn thing about Hill.

Ed Helicopter Jones
04-11-2009, 02:27 PM
Ime's had his chances to shine. He gives the Spurs a slightly above average game every 6th game or so, sprinkled with a lot of yawners and a few WTF!s.

Ok defense, streaky shooting, decent rebounder.





I hope he proves me wrong this post season and emerges as something special, but I see no reason why the Spurs shouldn't try to upgrade his roster spot this offseason.

Brutalis
04-11-2009, 02:31 PM
I think Udoka is gone this summer. He had a good game but does not know the first thing about being consistent, much less consistently good.

Spur|n|Austin
04-11-2009, 04:33 PM
I've never had a problem with what he brings to the squad. The only time I get frustrated is when he starts jacking up 3's when his shot is off that particular game.

024
04-11-2009, 06:37 PM
from the beginning of the season up to this point, the good game he had against the jazz was an anomaly. should wait until after the playoffs to see what he can offer. i was definitely a udoka supporter at the beginning of the season but even i have to admit he's not better than last year. if he can produce in the playoffs, he should get a vet minimum.

SenorSpur
04-11-2009, 07:06 PM
I've never had a problem with what he brings to the squad. The only time I get frustrated is when he starts jacking up 3's when his shot is off that particular game.

Frankly, I have a problem with Ginobili doing the same thing.

Spur|n|Austin
04-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Frankly, I have a problem with Ginobili doing the same thing.

Me too, but that was only a big problem recently. In past seasons I had lots of confidence when his shot was in the air. Can't say the same this season.

baseline bum
04-11-2009, 07:54 PM
Ime's way too poor of a defender to bring back. Even at the veteran minimum I think I'd rather go elsewhere.

lefty
04-11-2009, 07:55 PM
Ime's way too poor of a defender to bring back. Even at the veteran minimum I think I'd rather go elsewhere.

That's the most disappointing part.

He was supposed to be a D specialist when he joined the Spurs

superbigtime
04-11-2009, 09:08 PM
I don't like seeing the Spurs have to rely on average or less than average players -- like Vaughn, Bonner and Ime. If we spend alot of $ signing Gooden or others, it's fine to sign Ime on the cheap at vet min. But I think his days are numbered. He's not a very good shooter, he's slow, he can't jump, he can't finish at the rim or run with a break. He has more deficiences than attributes, IMO.

SenorSpur
04-12-2009, 03:04 AM
I don't like seeing the Spurs have to rely on average or less than average players -- like Vaughn, Bonner and Ime. If we spend alot of $ signing Gooden or others, it's fine to sign Ime on the cheap at vet min. But I think his days are numbered. He's not a very good shooter, he's slow, he can't jump, he can't finish at the rim or run with a break. He has more deficiences than attributes, IMO.

If Pop wondered why the team's defensive defiency is way down, then he should look no further than that point. And let's not forget to include Finley in that bunch. Especially since he's getting big minutes guarding the opposition's best perimeter player.

SenorSpur
04-12-2009, 03:04 AM
Udoka is gone. We will need the roster spot if we are to improve. And for the love of God can we please stop with the 6-4 NBA SF and the 6-8--6-9 centers on our team. We must get bigger and more athletic if we are gonna win another title.

:toast

spursfan1000
04-12-2009, 03:04 AM
I don't get why so many people hate him, he is a really solid player. He can defend well, shoot good and isnt stupid. I have been inpressed by how he has played in the little minutes he has gotten. He was also pretty good last year.

SenorSpur
04-12-2009, 03:11 AM
He was indeed pretty good last year. My point on him is that, while he works hard and is very professional and occassionally has a good game here and there, he's simply too athleticially challenged for what the Spurs need out of that backup SF position. As someone said earlier in the thread, the Spurs need a 6'6" or 6'7" guy, with greater offensive and defensive capabilities.

BackHome
04-12-2009, 03:17 PM
The selling point for this guy is that he was going to be Bowens replacment. But from day one you could tell that wasn't going to happen he is just to slow. He does not have the lateral quickness to stay with most of the SF in the league. But to be honest you get what you pay for....

exstatic
04-12-2009, 04:04 PM
I've never had a problem with what he brings to the squad. The only time I get frustrated is when he starts jacking up 3's when his shot is off that particular game.

If he stops shooting open ones, Pop sits him. That's the rule. I remember a quote from Pop WAY back in like '98 or '99, vis a vis Jarren Jackson that if he passed up open shots, he was going to sit for a LONG time.

As for his defense, he can't defend all of the players Bowen can. Then again, he does a better job with the more physical post up types than Bruce does. I've also noticed that he's giving players a little more room so he has a better angle on their drive attempts. If that invites the jumper, well that's actually what the Spurs want. Get a hand up in his face, and turn around and block out.

manufor3
04-12-2009, 04:14 PM
I've never had a problem with what he brings to the squad. The only time I get frustrated is when he starts jacking up 3's when his shot is off that particular game.