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TheWriter
03-19-2005, 07:41 PM
Would you pull the trigger?

RobinsontoDuncan
03-19-2005, 07:47 PM
No.

Spurs košarka kultura
03-19-2005, 07:57 PM
Back problems scare me.

Rick Von Braun
03-19-2005, 07:59 PM
Hmmm... probably not but I would seriously consider it.

Kori Ellis
03-19-2005, 08:02 PM
Back problems scare me.

Ditto.

Experiment2100
03-19-2005, 08:04 PM
no

TheWriter
03-19-2005, 08:05 PM
Let me switch it up.

Rasho and Barry for Chandler?

RobinsontoDuncan
03-19-2005, 08:07 PM
ummmm....... No. well...... No.

RobinsontoDuncan
03-19-2005, 08:08 PM
Rasho for Chandler strait up? Nazr for Chandler starit up? Yes to both, but even when his shot isn't falling i have never seen Barry on the floor be a net negative, he either makes a good pass or penetrates, or something.

Therefore it makes no sense to trade an impact player and a good role player, for a pretty good rebounder. Well an awesome rebounder, but his offensive game is more limited than Rasho's.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-19-2005, 08:10 PM
Um, hell no. Chandler is destined to be another Charles Smith (of the NY Knick variety).

What part of back problems don't you guys get? Tyson's destined to get hit by the same problems as Smith (and our own DRob).

No thanks. With an offseason under the Spurs' guidance, Nazr is going to be a beast. Fuck all you doubters.

Dex
03-19-2005, 08:42 PM
Negative.

timvp
03-19-2005, 08:46 PM
Um, hell no. Chandler is destined to be another Charles Smith (of the NY Knick variety).

What part of back problems don't you guys get? Tyson's destined to get hit by the same problems as Smith (and our own DRob).

No thanks. With an offseason under the Spurs' guidance, Nazr is going to be a beast. Fuck all you doubters.

What does Charles Smith have to do with back problems? He had a chronic knee.

exstatic
03-19-2005, 08:47 PM
Agreed, LJ, BUT...back problems this young are a red flag.

timvp
03-19-2005, 08:49 PM
Yeah, a bad back out of high school isn't a good sign. Though TMac went through something similar and I haven't heard about it flare up anytime recently.

Nikos
03-19-2005, 08:59 PM
Tyson Chandler is an excellent defender. Charles Smith was more of an offensive player. Not really an apt comparison.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-19-2005, 09:10 PM
Sorry, I was trying to stress the whole Charles Smith <----> damaged goods connection.

Chandler, with back problems this early in his life, is destined for an early retirement. I'd rather it not be with 3-4 years and serious money still owed to him by San Antonio. Let Chicago swallow that pill.

Guru of Nothing
03-19-2005, 09:15 PM
I like Tyson Chandler, but I would not pay him a lot of money.

exstatic
03-19-2005, 09:16 PM
Though TMac went through something similar and I haven't heard about it flare up anytime recently.

Didn't he miss time at the end of last year? And then Philly held out Iverson, since they were in a scoring race, or was it vice versa?

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-19-2005, 09:27 PM
The only thing that was really hurting was TMac's ass, from all the rapings he took playing for a bad team.

grjr
03-19-2005, 09:44 PM
Yeah, I was thinking that TMac had more of a case of Raptormagicitis- Inflammation of the ego.

Kori Ellis
03-19-2005, 09:46 PM
No, TMac actually has a problem with his back. He's had it since his rookie year and from what I understand still has it periodically.

smeagol
03-19-2005, 10:26 PM
Chandler is not that good.

ducks
03-19-2005, 10:27 PM
wait tell the after the playoffs

T Park
03-19-2005, 11:03 PM
no.

Nazr > Chandler.

1. hes not chronically hurt like Chandler.


Period.

ChumpDumper
03-19-2005, 11:04 PM
Nazr's feets disagree.

But the back is scarier.

T Park
03-19-2005, 11:23 PM
Nazr's feets disagree

Well, knock on wood, he hasn't had many problems with his feet.

ChumpDumper
03-19-2005, 11:25 PM
Um, he missed half a season with a stress fracture in his foot.

T Park
03-19-2005, 11:35 PM
how long ago.

Plus, wasn't it just a one time thing?!?!?!?!

timvp
03-19-2005, 11:37 PM
No. He had foot surgery and missed the beginning of the 2002-03 season. Then came back in December but by March, he had to have another surgery for another stress fracture on the same foot.

T Park
03-19-2005, 11:43 PM
hmm.

Well hes made it through almost two years, maybe its fixed.

Either way, Chandler is a FA and I dont think hes signing here.

sickdsm
03-20-2005, 12:54 AM
What part of back problems don't you guys get? Tyson's destined to get hit by the same problems as Smith (and our own DRob).



I know Drob had back problems his entire career but honestly, was a player that good that much of a problem????


Chandler's a RFA i think.

S&T is what i believe they're talking about here.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-20-2005, 12:58 AM
Back problems ended David's career. They'll end Chandler's too (albeit at a much younger age).

sickdsm
03-20-2005, 01:11 AM
I think you need to take a look back at that draft and see the other guys on that list. Would you have taken a healthy reggie instead? Hell no. Scottie Pippen? No. His back injuries in the big picture were a minor detail. Besides. Out of that list the only names i recognised that played last year were Scottie (we all know how that turned out), Reggie, Horace Grant, and Mark Jackson.

The only one to play legitamate minutes and games was Reggie Miller.


Talent > Back issues

The question should be is how much better is Chandler than Nazr.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-20-2005, 01:18 AM
He's not. Next.

What good does Tyson Chandler do the Spurs in four years if he's retired?

And finally, comparing Tyson to any of those guys is laughable. He's still raw and underdeveloped. The question is can that talent be developed and taken advantage of before his back goes goodbye.

Don't you have a lotto to get ready for Sick?

baseline bum
03-20-2005, 01:29 AM
Bird's back was screwed from 83 on, but he's the toughest mother to ever play the game. Still, it made him one of the worst defenders in the league. David still had some excellent years after his injury in 96, but he was never the same player after and I honestly can't see Chandler just sucking it up and taking the shot the way David did twice in that 2002 series vs LA.

When did Pippen mess his back up? I thought it was in 98, and he was a shell of himself after that season.

exstatic
03-20-2005, 01:31 AM
David did NOT have back problems his whole career. They started in 1996, when he played in the Olympics with a hernia. Trying to compensate for that (he never should have played), he injured his back. He was truly never the same after that.

Gerryatrics
03-20-2005, 04:11 AM
A little late, but I'd just like to say...

No.

Slo spurs fan
03-20-2005, 04:56 AM
I would change Nazr and Barry for Tyson...











































....Mike Tyson :lol