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monosylab1k
04-16-2009, 06:54 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/matchup/_/teams/mavericks-spurs

Enjoy the second round, Spurs fans. No way we survive this curse.

spursfan09
04-16-2009, 06:55 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/matchup/_/teams/mavericks-spurs

Enjoy the second round, Spurs fans. No way we survive this curse.

:lol just by the title of your thread I immediatly thought "We got this shit!"

monosylab1k
04-16-2009, 06:55 PM
Chad Ford also picking Mavs in 6 all but guarantees a sweep for the Spurs.

lefty
04-16-2009, 06:56 PM
Every Hollinger prediction goes wrong.

That's good news for us :tu

timvp
04-16-2009, 06:59 PM
I checked last night and he had Spurs in six. Glad he made the change :tu

lefty
04-16-2009, 07:00 PM
I checked last night and he had Spurs in six. Glad he made the change :tu
:lmao

Don Quixote
04-16-2009, 07:01 PM
Spurs were VERY fortunate to get Dallas. Perhaps the only playoff team they could for certain beat in 7. So, Spurs in a tough one, in 7.

Trainwreck2100
04-16-2009, 07:07 PM
I checked last night and he had Spurs in six. Glad he made the change :tu

he must have forgotten to carry the one

Spurminator
04-16-2009, 07:07 PM
Don't forget he picked Lakers in five last year.

Just saying.

ElNono
04-16-2009, 07:10 PM
Don't forget he picked Lakers in five last year.

Just saying.

You can add picking the Suns and the Hornets...
DOES NO COMPUTE...

Spurminator
04-16-2009, 07:12 PM
You can add picking the Suns and the Hornets...
DOES NO COMPUTE...


Good call, now I feel better.

Broken clocks and stuff.

celldweller
04-16-2009, 07:14 PM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3640/johnhollingercs9.jpg

lefty
04-16-2009, 07:18 PM
Don't forget he picked Lakers in five last year.

Just saying.

And don't forget he picked PHX and N.O to beat the Spurs last season

Just saying

Spursmania
04-16-2009, 07:20 PM
Thank you! They're counting us out-perfect!

Amarelooms
04-16-2009, 07:21 PM
Spurs were VERY fortunate to get Dallas. Perhaps the only playoff team they could for certain beat in 7. So, Spurs in a tough one, in 7.

Mavs are a bad matchup for ya'll dummy...get with it :elephant

ElNono
04-16-2009, 07:22 PM
I'm starting to wonder if Hollinger = Yao

myhc
04-16-2009, 07:23 PM
YES!!! 2nd round here we come! :lol

lefty
04-16-2009, 07:23 PM
Mavs are a bad matchup for ya'll dummy...get with it :elephant
:lol

Obstructed_View
04-16-2009, 07:25 PM
I have absolutely no confidence that the Spurs can even drag this out to five games, but the Mavs fans up here seem absolutely sure that their team is going to win and win easily. The play by play guy for the Mavericks is already looking forward to the second round.

The Spurs are probably going to get pounded, but I'm gonna be rooting like crazy for them.

lefty
04-16-2009, 07:27 PM
I have absolutely no confidence that the Spurs can even drag this out to five games, but the Mavs fans up here seem absolutely sure that their team is going to win and win easily. The play by play guy for the Mavericks is already looking forward to the second round.

The Spurs are probably going to get pounded, but I'm gonna be rooting like crazy for them.

Wow :wow

One game at a time, ok?

redzero
04-16-2009, 07:28 PM
The Hornets would have beaten the Spurs in Game Six if the refs didn't bail them out. I kid, I kid (not really). The Hornets have played the Spurs 15 times over the last two seasons, so I think it is safe to say that they are evenly matched.

dbreiden83080
04-16-2009, 07:51 PM
Thank GOD, i was worried about this series, until i saw that..

Oh, Gee!!
04-16-2009, 08:06 PM
I checked last night and he had Spurs in six. Glad he made the change :tu

wait....wouldn't that mean.....i'm confused.

benefactor
04-16-2009, 08:12 PM
I saw this too...and thought exactly the same thing. Hollinger :tu.

Ghazi
04-16-2009, 08:15 PM
Hollinger picked the Lakers in 5 over the Spurs last year.

Findog
04-16-2009, 08:21 PM
I have absolutely no confidence that the Spurs can even drag this out to five games, but the Mavs fans up here seem absolutely sure that their team is going to win and win easily. The play by play guy for the Mavericks is already looking forward to the second round.

The Spurs are probably going to get pounded, but I'm gonna be rooting like crazy for them.

I think the Spurs win in 7.

sribb43
04-16-2009, 08:21 PM
Its your destiny to lose Spurs fans..the time has come and the dynasty is over. Next year i suggest sitting out TD with a bogus injury so that you all my claim the #1 pick

Ghazi
04-16-2009, 08:25 PM
I have absolutely no confidence that the Spurs can even drag this out to five games, but the Mavs fans up here seem absolutely sure that their team is going to win and win easily. The play by play guy for the Mavericks is already looking forward to the second round.

The Spurs are probably going to get pounded, but I'm gonna be rooting like crazy for them.

I agree, although I don't know if you're being serious.

I detect too much optimism, elation, SOMETHIN from Mavs fans. It's gonna be annoying as fuck when certain posters start spewing the anti-Mav garbage if we lose this series. Certain Mavs posters that is.

I dunno who is gonna win, the homer in me says Mavs in 6 but there are plenty of reasons the Spurs can win this series. Parker, home court, coaching, execution, Mavs shoddy defense, Mavs heartache from the rigged 2006 Finals, etc.

Obstructed_View
04-16-2009, 08:37 PM
Aside from Parker going absolutely nuts, I don't see a single reason the Spurs can win the series. They have home court advantage, but their record at home is the worst it's been since Timmy has been on the team. Carlisle has developed his young talent giving the team some depth, while Pop has ground his into the ground or cut them loose right when they might have had a chance to contribute. The Mavs have been great lately at closing out games, and Jason Terry, as much as I hate him, has finally started to look like the player he's always thought he was. I also have no confidence in the Spurs' offense, because they rely on way too many jumpshots, while the Mavericks' game has been moving closer to the basket over the last couple of months.


Mavs heartache from the rigged 2006 Finals
Well, there is the fact that the Mavs may be the least clutch team in the history of the playoffs, and will resort to blaming everything around them as soon as anything stops going their way. That and the MMFLs counting their chickens, again, gives me a little bit of hope.

dirk4mvp
04-16-2009, 08:45 PM
Aside from Parker going absolutely nuts, I don't see a single reason the Spurs can win the series.

Shit, take a look at the stats from the last 3 star guards the Mavs played. If that's one of the main keys to the Spurs advancing, I'd be pretty happy if I were a low life spurfan.

Obstructed_View
04-16-2009, 08:49 PM
Shit, take a look at the stats from the last 3 star guards the Mavs played. If that's one of the main keys to the Spurs advancing, I'd be pretty happy if I were a low life spurfan.

I agree. There's little doubt Parker's going to go nuts on Kidd, but I doubt it'll be enough, and he can't do it for 16 wins anyway.

Horse
04-16-2009, 08:54 PM
Mavs are a bad matchup for ya'll dummy...get with it :elephant
Yeah if I was a dallas fan I would love kidd guarding Parker.

Avitus1
04-16-2009, 08:55 PM
Dah well what else is new...

ElNono
04-16-2009, 08:56 PM
I don't see the Mavs extending this series past 5 or 6 games. If you actually have been watching the Mavs at all, they have absolutely no bench or depth whatsoever. Add the fact JHo has been injured/hobbled and that wether he's going to show up to play a complete puzzle and I don't think they have enough with Dirk and Terry. On the othe side of the coin, not only they have no answer for TP, but they really don't have anybody outside of Dampier to guard TD, and Dampier hasn't been that good of a defender historically on Tim. Mason has been upping his game, and if you look at the last few games, our defense has picked up considerably aswell.
Since Kidd got to Dallas, I actually think the matchups work in our advantage. The head to head record seems to indicate that aswell, with the Spurs taking 5 of the last 7 against them.

All in all, I absolutely like our chances against this team.

Manufan909
04-16-2009, 08:56 PM
I agree. There's little doubt Parker's going to go nuts on Kidd, but I doubt it'll be enough, and he can't do it for 16 wins anyway.

Good to see you're setting the bar incredibly low, OV. When the Spurs get swept in the WCF by the Lakers/Trailblazers, you'll be the only person on ST pumped up.:lmao

NewJerSpur
04-16-2009, 09:02 PM
Its your destiny to lose Spurs fans..the time has come and the dynasty is over. Next year i suggest sitting out TD with a bogus injury so that you all my claim the #1 pick

Why is it that whenever the team "appears" to be at the end of their championship run (key word being appears) then suddenly our dynasty is coming to an end, yet when we win a championship the consensus is that we have no dynasty until we win back-to-back titles? :wtf

Obstructed_View
04-16-2009, 09:03 PM
Good to see you're setting the bar incredibly low, OV. When the Spurs get swept in the WCF by the Lakers/Trailblazers, you'll be the only person on ST pumped up.:lmao

That scintillating 11-8 finish coupled with Pop giving Jacque Vaughn minutes is what set the bar low. If the Spurs win two playoff series this year I'll be absolutely elated. If they win one I'll be very surprised.

Manufan909
04-16-2009, 09:17 PM
That scintillating 11-8 finish coupled with Pop giving Jacque Vaughn minutes is what set the bar low. If the Spurs win two playoff series this year I'll be absolutely elated. If they win one I'll be very surprised.

Yet JV never got minutes when Pop started to shorten the rotations, so I think it's safe to say JV will get less minutes than Hill in the POs, and the same number as MW.

Findog
04-16-2009, 09:19 PM
I don't see the Mavs extending this series past 5 or 6 games. If you actually have been watching the Mavs at all, they have absolutely no bench or depth whatsoever. Add the fact JHo has been injured/hobbled and that wether he's going to show up to play a complete puzzle and I don't think they have enough with Dirk and Terry.

February and March forum.

Obstructed_View
04-16-2009, 09:19 PM
Yet JV never got minutes when Pop started to shorten the rotations, so I think it's safe to say JV will get less minutes than Hill in the POs, and the same number as MW.

That would be nice, but there are no safe bets. Hill hasn't gotten meaningful minutes down the stretch, and Marcus is playing for Austin. Besides, JV only needs enough minutes for his guy to catch fire.

silverblackfan
04-16-2009, 09:25 PM
I'm starting to wonder if Hollinger = Yao

:toast
Thanks, Hollinger. It takes all the worry out of this round. Spurs in 5?

SouthTexasRancher
04-16-2009, 09:31 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/matchup/_/teams/mavericks-spurs

Enjoy the second round, Spurs fans. No way we survive this curse.

Nah, it's going to be a great series. Besides we get the benefit of getting to laugh at Mark Cuban and his silly antics. He better not be seen near the river because if I see him I'm throwing his stinky ass in the river.

But, good luck to your Mavs and may everyone stay healthy.

ElNono
04-16-2009, 09:33 PM
February and March forum.

Mid-April forum actually. JHo is still bothered by his ankle, Barea is still borderline NBA material, and Dampier is well, still Erica. Kidd has been washed up for a while now. This is not the 2006 Mavericks.

Ghazi
04-16-2009, 09:40 PM
This is not the 2006 Spurs

ElNono
04-16-2009, 09:42 PM
This is not the 2006 Spurs

Exactly :toast

Findog
04-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Mid-April forum actually.

No, you haven't been paying attention.


JHo is still bothered by his ankle,

He's reverted to vintage form since there's only a year left on his deal. He's playing better than he has in the past 18 months.


Barea is still borderline NBA material,

And he'll get spot rotation minutes accordingly. JJ Barea isn't deciding this series for either team, so why bring him up?


and Dampier is well, still Erica

We've owned your asses in spite of him. Why the irrelevant non sequitur?


Kidd has been washed up for a while now.

Far from his prime, but still a very, very good player. You're just not very good at this, are you?



This is not the 2006 Mavericks.

And these aint the 03, 05 and 07 Spurs. For what it's worth, I think the Spurs win this thing in 7. Your overconfidence is comical.

Donnie Hathaway
04-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Your thread should have a disclaimer "USELESS INFORMATION: " right before the original thread title.:lobt::flag:

lurker
04-16-2009, 09:44 PM
So does his curse only apply to the Mavericks, or will we have a Jazz vs Rockets/Spurs vs New Orleans second round?

Ghazi
04-16-2009, 09:53 PM
No, you haven't been paying attention.



He's reverted to vintage form since there's only a year left on his deal. He's playing better than he has in the past 18 months.



And he'll get spot rotation minutes accordingly. JJ Barea isn't deciding this series for either team, so why bring him up?



We've owned your asses in spite of him. Why the irrelevant non sequitur?



Far from his prime, but still a very, very good player. You're just not very good at this, are you?



And these aint the 03, 05 and 07 Spurs. For what it's worth, I think the Spurs win this thing in 7. Your overconfidence is comical.

I thought you had the guys winning in 6 !:depressed

Findog
04-16-2009, 09:59 PM
I thought you had the guys winning in 6 !:depressed

I'm guardedly optimistic about this series, but I think the Spurs are going to prove to be a tough out. The rational, objective part of me says Spurs in 7. It doesn't take much rose tint in my glasses to see the Mavs winning instead. I think it's going to be a tough 6-7 game series no matter who wins.

ElNono
04-16-2009, 10:27 PM
He's reverted to vintage form since there's only a year left on his deal. He's playing better than he has in the past 18 months.


His last 3 outings show a DNP right ankle, and two 15 PPG in 35 minutes. Very far from vintage JHo.


And he'll get spot rotation minutes accordingly. JJ Barea isn't deciding this series for either team, so why bring him up?

Because he's been starting for the last few games and will have to guard Mason or Tony. If JET starts to guard Parker, Barea is basically your entire bench at the guard position. Basically, this goes to counter the argument OV was making about depth.


We've owned your asses in spite of him. Why the irrelevant non sequitur?

But your team hasn't owned any ass since Kidd arrived. We've actually beat your team fairly consistently since then.


Far from his prime, but still a very, very good player. You're just not very good at this, are you?
LOL, Kidd was done in NJ *before* he even got to the Mavs.
It's a given he's not gonna stop TP, he's one of the most inconsistent scorer on your team, so how is exactly that he's going to help your team? You certainly are not very good at this either.


And these aint the 03, 05 and 07 Spurs. For what it's worth, I think the Spurs win this thing in 7. Your overconfidence is
comical.

Go ahead and laugh. I don't think I'm overconfident at all. First game in two days. We'll see how we fare.

spursbird
04-16-2009, 10:36 PM
Whatever, playing against MAVs might be really hard, for Dirk's status is extremely good. And in the vote of which team would win the first-round matchup only half of the voters thought spurs could beat mavs. So, let's stop arguing, just see what'll happen.

Manufan909
04-16-2009, 10:37 PM
That would be nice, but there are no safe bets. Hill hasn't gotten meaningful minutes down the stretch, and Marcus is playing for Austin. Besides, JV only needs enough minutes for his guy to catch fire.

By that comment I meant JV wouldn't be played, like MW, I knew he was in Austin.

I just want Hill to average 5 minutes this PO.

Borosai
04-16-2009, 10:41 PM
http://www.imagehut.net/images/tdnnliyimqxqjwwqllg.jpg

braeden0613
04-16-2009, 10:47 PM
http://www.imagehut.net/images/tdnnliyimqxqjwwqllg.jpg
:lol:lol winner

barbacoataco
04-16-2009, 10:53 PM
Tony Parker will outplay Jason Kidd so bad on both sides of the court, and that alone will be the difference. Mavs don't have Devin Harris anymore. The rosters are different this year. Dirk is more of a jump shooter only now. Jason Terry is a terrible defender.

Another reason I like the Spurs-- the Mavs are poor at defending the 3 ptr. The Spurs live and die with the 3 ball and if Mason, udoka, Finley and Bowen are seeing OPEN 3 ptrs the Spurs will win. Of course a lot also depends on Duncan's knees and his effectiveness.

I guess we'll see.

Duncan2177
04-16-2009, 10:54 PM
I have absolutely no confidence that the Spurs can even drag this out to five games, but the Mavs fans up here seem absolutely sure that their team is going to win and win easily. The play by play guy for the Mavericks is already looking forward to the second round.

The Spurs are probably going to get pounded, but I'm gonna be rooting like crazy for them.

Thats the spirit kid.:rolleyes

K-State Spur
04-16-2009, 10:56 PM
You can add picking the Suns and the Hornets...
DOES NO COMPUTE...

hell, following game 5 of the hornets series, he said it was almost impossible for the spurs to win.

Obstructed_View
04-17-2009, 12:47 AM
We've owned your asses in spite of him. Why the irrelevant non sequitur?

For those of you that are puzzled by this comment, considering the Spurs are 14-13 against the Mavericks since 2005, including the playoffs, you need to understand that Findog simply disregards games that the Mavericks lose, as though they never happened.

monosylab1k
04-17-2009, 01:02 AM
For those of you that are puzzled by this comment, considering the Spurs are 14-13 against the Mavericks since 2005, including the playoffs, you need to understand that Findog simply disregards games that the Mavericks lose, as though they never happened.

oh suddenly the regular season means something to Spur Fan.

Obstructed_View
04-17-2009, 01:08 AM
oh suddenly the regular season means something to Spur Fan.

If Spur fan tries to tell you what actually means something, you get all bent out of shape and start calling people "faggot".

For the time being, if one is going to talk about "owning" someone else, I'm not sure what method is better than head-to-head record, and I presume we have to go back a ways, since I'm pretty sure the Spurs have won five of the last seven games.

The only thing the Mavs own is a western conference title, for which they are hugely ungrateful.

Mavs<Spurs
04-17-2009, 03:49 AM
:lol:lol winner

If you want, I can explain about the groups and the automorphism.

It's basic.

:wakeup

temujin
04-17-2009, 08:34 AM
Hollinger predicted the Spurs to miss the playoffs, as late as January.

Things are looking good.

1Parker1
04-17-2009, 09:15 AM
I checked last night and he had Spurs in six. Glad he made the change :tu

:lmao He seriously did....

Budkin
04-17-2009, 09:20 AM
I have absolutely no confidence that the Spurs can even drag this out to five games, but the Mavs fans up here seem absolutely sure that their team is going to win and win easily. The play by play guy for the Mavericks is already looking forward to the second round.

The Spurs are probably going to get pounded, but I'm gonna be rooting like crazy for them.

:lmao someone get this guy some Xanax!

triple t's
04-17-2009, 10:04 AM
its comical that anyone has the spurs heavilty favored in this series. lol outside of TP, and Duncan's 1.5 kness, the spurs have nothing. So you spurs fans better hope to all that is holy that parker REMAINS healthy and hot. Duncan isnt in the same physical condition to put up 30+/15 boards this time around. So where is the production going to come from? Mavs have the edge at every other position. The main difference? The mavs scrubs are actually good compared to the spurs's scrubs.


Mavs in 5.

jag
04-17-2009, 10:12 AM
The Mavs are one of the biggest underachieving teams in the league....half of their players look lazy or unmotivated. If they can put it all together i still think they can be a quality team.

I miss the days of playing the Suns. It made things so much easier.

Thomas82
04-17-2009, 11:03 AM
Spurs were VERY fortunate to get Dallas. Perhaps the only playoff team they could for certain beat in 7. So, Spurs in a tough one, in 7.

I'm thinking 6.

superbigtime
04-17-2009, 12:48 PM
I'm kind of concerned about these new long guys the Mavs have ... Wright, Singleton, Hollins. Typical long athletic guys who give the Spurs trouble. That last game the Mavs played against the Rockets all went south for Houston once Hollins started D-ing up Yao Ming. Hoping their inexperience leads to another Mavs epic choke.

ElNono
04-17-2009, 12:53 PM
I'm kind of concerned about these new long guys the Mavs have ... Wright, Singleton, Hollins. Typical long athletic guys who give the Spurs trouble. That last game the Mavs played against the Rockets all went south for Houston once Hollins started D-ing up Yao Ming. Hoping their inexperience leads to another Mavs epic choke.

They've been garbage for pretty much all season long. On top of that, Carslile doesn't trust them enough to give them consistent minutes (with Wright being perhaps the exception). We will possibly see some of those guys not because they're any good, but because with Damp in foul trouble, neither Dirk nor Bass can really handle TD, so one of those other guys is gonna have to play. And to be honest, I can't wait.

Basketballgirl25
04-17-2009, 12:59 PM
I'm new here, but I hope the Spurs beat the Mavs

LEONARD
04-17-2009, 01:01 PM
The play by play guy for the Mavericks is already looking forward to the second round.

Say what???

dirk4mvp
04-17-2009, 01:01 PM
Spurs are going to have a much harder time stopping Dirk than the Mavs are of holding Duncan and his rotting knees.

Obstructed_View
04-17-2009, 03:27 PM
Say what???

http://www.nba.com/media/mavericks/biocoop.jpg