Official bench Bonner fan club

[bless1187]

this is just disgraceful, wtf is this performance 0 pts, 1 reb, and 3 fouls... man, its just looking like he's getting a free pass to be playing 20-30 min a nite since he knows the system better, regardless of his performance. man, as of now, i'm totally fine if pop just cut him out the rotation, which prolly won't happen.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Not a big game player??

We're gonna need his shooting eventually so he better not avoid looking to get open later.

[Spurs Brazil]

Expected

[HarlemHeat37]

not surprising at all..

[ducks]

he is a very bad matchup against dallas

[spursfan1000]

I would really be happy if POP would start Thomas and bring Bonner off the bench to score with Gooden, if the double Gooden Bonner would most likely be open.

[HarlemHeat37]

he is a very bad matchup against anybody the past few months

[Texas_Ranger]

He should not step on the court in the second half!

[timvp]

If there is ever a time to start Duncan and Gooden, it's the beginning of the third to try to get the fourth on Dirk.

[Rogue]

I bet Pop will start Gooden in the second quarter

[HarlemHeat37]

I would really be happy if POP would start Thomas and bring Bonner off the bench to score with Gooden, if the double Gooden Bonner would most likely be open.

that would be the worst defensive frontcourt in NBA history..

[bless1187]

he's a bad matchup, against any decent frontline, look at all the playoff contender frontline in the west, i thought dallas was the best matchup for him since nowitzki isn't really as physical when you compare it to some of the other big man he has to play later.

[bless1187]

like i said, it been looking like this for 2 month that, he's just getting free pass to 20-30 min playing time even though his performance is absolute shit the majority of those game.

[spursfan1000]

that would be the worst defensive frontcourt in NBA history..


Probably, but then we wouldent go on a drought, which kills us almost every game.

[Ice009]

Matt still has a chance to do some helpful stuff for us.

Don't count him out.

[stéphane]

Pop may tell him during halftime that you don't defend in the low block with your hands and elbows stuck in your opponent back...

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I feel sorry for Matt. He's just not a starter. He's a good player off the bench to drain a few threes, and he used to have potential to be a hustle guy that could compete with scrub opponents, but he is not a starting center at all.

The only thing he's not off the hook for is his confidence issues.

[Kamnik]

Spurs scored 5 points more than mavericks while he was on the court.

/thread

[Brazil]

so far so good matt with 3 PF and Dirk with 3 also !

Gooden must go into Dirk to get the 4th and the game is over

[spursfan1000]

About to start 2nd half :flag:

[HarlemHeat37]

hopefully this thread reverse-jinxes Bonner..but now that I said that, I might have killed the chances..

[stéphane]

Spurs scored 5 points more than mavericks while he was on the court.

/thread

That has absolutely nothing to do with him dude.

[spursfan1000]

Tied...

[spursfan1000]

Mavs take the lead... :flag:

[spursfan1000]

Spurs pick it up already!

[spursfan1000]

Spurs down 3 because of that pussy howard.

[spursfan1000]

Oh shit I was posting in the wrong thread lol my bad

[Texas_Ranger]

I bet Mahinmi would play better than him right now.

[itzsoweezee]

lol, mavs are taking turns dunking on bonner. dude is fucking garbage.

although, duncan playing shitty defense isn't helping.

[spursfan1000]

any1 want to join?

[orantom]

approved!
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[adidas11]

:lol

[PURO SAN ANTO 210!]

Hell yah put boner on the bench, he's a sorry ass defender!!!!!!!

[orantom]

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[Behrooz24]

Official Bench Bonner Crew is created.

[mavs>spurs2]

I can't be a part of this fan club, Boner is our best player :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

if he starts the 4th Q I'm killing Pop

[Creation88]

please retitle this the "Fuck You Matt Bonner thread"

i'll start: FUCK YOU BONNER!

[Texas_Ranger]

FUCK YOU MATT BOONER! Go play to Ireland you fucking moron.

[SequSpur]

any questions now? smb

[bless1187]

after today's game i'm officially convinced the bonner is getting a free pass from pop to getting minutes.... with his absolute SHIT performance, he still ends up getting more playing time than both gooden and thomas, if he wasn't in foul trouble in the 1st half, he would probably have gotten 30 min again. WTF is wrong with pop in playing this big scrub.

[ECZ]

Fucking Fuck!

[Pablo Escobar]

Im in

[mexicanjunior]

More like "Cut Matt Bonner Fan Club", he shouldn't be allowed back in the locker room...

[Stump]

count me in

[kingkoopa]

I'll join also

[Bambililos]

I'm in.

[Death In June]

Definitely.

[KenGee21]

#1 fan SIGNING IN

[Agloco]

There were never any questions. He sucks. We know that.

[ECZ]

:depressed

[CP48107]

I can't believe how poor Bonner has played. Makes me feel sick

[KenGee21]

After this one, you might need to create another one for Pop

[Manufan909]

I am an official member of this club. He sucked in every possible way today. If Pop starts him this entire series, I'll know why we lost.

[purist]

Gooden AND Bowen need to start. Move Mason to bench for scoring punch from second unit. Move Bonner behind Thomas and Oberto in rotation. He can't even take a charge, so his fouls are useless.

[ca®lo]

i hate to do this but im IN as well

[ElNono]

But he hustles a lot

[Texas_Ranger]

pathetic, this guy is just pathetic...

[Spurs Brazil]

What I saw from Bonner today was easily the WORST playoff performance by any Spurs player since I'm a fan, 1994

He has no toughness. I think he can't even play in a WNBA playoff game

[SCdac]

Matt Bonner should not be starting, let alone getting 20 minutes a game. The fact that he started for almost the whole season is troubling enough, now it's happening in the most important games of a dynasty probably on it's downward slope. Bonner's ceiling is too low IMO. If he isn't hitting three pointers, he's a non-factor... play Gooden till he fouls out I say.

[Spurs Brazil]

Oberto is a best option than Bonner. At least Oberto plays hard and he's not afraid of a game

[Interrohater]

18:06 played, 1 rebound, 0 points, 4 fouls, 1 steal and 1 turnover.... that's 18 minutes of 5 on 4 basketball in the Mavericks favor, they had a friggin power play, in basketball!! This has happened too many times this season, why is Boner still getting significant minutes? Kurt Thomas played just as poorly, except he had one more rebound... Let's hope this is an anomaly and not a pattern. Holy crap that was bad.

[Spurs Brazil]

18:06 played, 1 rebound, 0 points, 4 fouls, 1 steal and 1 turnover.... that's 18 minutes of 5 on 4 basketball in the Mavericks favor, they had a friggin power play, in basketball!! This has happened too many times this season, why is Boner still getting significant minutes? Kurt Thomas played just as poorly, except he had one more rebound... Let's hope this is an anomaly and not a pattern. Holy crap that was bad.

His AWFUL and SOFT defense don't show on the box score

[CP48107]

Based on pop's press conference, I think Bonner will still be playing in game 2. I hope bonner can really step up this time

[easy7]

Seems like Bonehead is going to be a hell of an anal magician on this playoffs, did you his ass dissapear?:depressed

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Oberto is a best option than Bonner. At least Oberto plays hard and he's not afraid of a game

Yeah at least Oberto knows what it meant when he started his first playoff game. He was respectable enough that non Spurs fans during 2007, didn't him see him as a scrub but a legit role player for the two years he helped Timmy.

Non Spurs fans who watched tonight were ROFL @ Bonner.

[ElNono]

You want to hear something sad? Mutombo got more rebounds than Bonner in 5 minutes of play...

[spursfan1000]

I think this is the best fan club I have ever made.

[lurker23]

Bonner had a horrible game; there's no doubt about that. But I'll bump this thread later in this series when he gets 13 points and 5 rebounds on 3 of 5 three-point shooting and is a key part of a Spurs victory.

[Spursone]

:bang

Let's see:

Bonner hasn't hit a shot since, I can't remember, 3 point shooting, What's that?, Defense-NEVER, and has a 1/4 inch vertical leap!, He stays in we're fucked!

Is Pop just mind fucking me? SIT HIS ASS OUT! :wow:nope

[mexicanjunior]

Bonner had a horrible game; there's no doubt about that. But I'll bump this thread later in this series when he gets 13 points and 5 rebounds on 3 of 5 three-point shooting and is a key part of a Spurs victory.

I'll be more than happy to revisit this thread if that miracle occurs...

[Spursmania]

I have been saying Bonner is mentally weak and sucks. He just continues to prove me right. I've had ST members (I won't mention names) ride my balls for saying those things about Bonner. And, I will say it again, BONNER Sucks and has no business playing the minutes he's playing. I am ready to throw up on stupid Pop. This is disgraceful to see such an unproductive player get so many minutes in crunch time.

[ElNono]

I have been saying Bonner is mentally weak and sucks. He just continues to prove me right. I've had ST members (I won't mention names) ride my balls for saying those things about Bonner. And, I will say it again, BONNER Sucks and has no business playing the minutes he's playing. I am ready to throw up on stupid Pop. This is disgraceful to see such an unproductive player get so many minutes in crunch time.

+1
He wouldn't start in any other NBA team.

[ulosturedge]

Why the fuck was he out there?! The dude didn't shoot one three that game. If he isn't shooting 3's why the hell is he out there? He is sure as shit not good for anything else...

[Warlord23]

The problem started when Carlisle and the Mavs decided that they won't leave our shooters open. They made that mistake early in the game and Fin, Mase and Bowen made a few and we got ourselves a decent lead. After that the Mavs just stayed home on the corners the rest of the way and challenged Duncan and TP to beat them inside. TP didn't have a great game and we didn't have too many answers on offense in the second half.

From that minute onwards, Bonner should have been nailed to the bench. I was shocked to see him in the second half, I have no idea what Pop was thinking. That's when they started scoring in the paint and shutting us out on the boards. I'd rather give those minutes to Gooden; playing alongside Duncan/Parker could help him get into some offensive rhythm than having to be the main offensive option in our bench lineup.

If you think a discard from the Raptors is going to be a starter on a championship team, this is what you get. He is a one-trick pony, you take away that trick and this is what happens.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

The problem started when Carlisle and the Mavs decided that they won't leave our shooters open. They made that mistake early in the game and Fin, Mase and Bowen made a few and we got ourselves a decent lead. After that the Mavs just stayed home on the corners the rest of the way and challenged Duncan and TP to beat them inside. TP didn't have a great game and we didn't have too many answers on offense in the second half.

From that minute onwards, Bonner should have been nailed to the bench. I was shocked to see him in the second half, I have no idea what Pop was thinking. That's when they started scoring in the paint and shutting us out on the boards. I'd rather give those minutes to Gooden; playing alongside Duncan/Parker could help him get into some offensive rhythm than having to be the main offensive option in our bench lineup.

If you think a discard from the Raptors is going to be a starter on a championship team, this is what you get. He is a one-trick pony, you take away that trick and this is what happens.

Great post. It's very easy for opposing coaches to read and it is basically a one dimensional strategy. For instance, Dirk just mentioned on presser that since Bonner's out there they have to respect his three and that means Tim is the only big in the paint...etc.

I think Pop is just arrogant with the whole "stretch the defense with Bonner" strategy. Bonner is too one dimensional for it to work . If he had other assets, skills, it would work but all Bonner does is shoot threes and awkwardly defend without fundamentals and grit.
Bonner has no exceptional to adequate skills outside of his three ball. He doesn't even have a mid-range game where he can FAKE A THREE to beat someone off the dribble and to pull up from 20. He can't pass. And sure as hell can't out rebound anyone as tall as him. He is so bad he can't even clean up in the paint like flat footed Oberto was able to do around Duncan, Parker and Manu when he would make garbage points off put-backs and tip in's. He isn't in the right places at the right time like a high IQ Horry and Oberto would be to receive passes or keep the offense flowing.
His regular season stats are inflated from having to outrebound the occasional midgets teams. Pop is just a crazy man with this Bonner-Duncan strategy.

[calaway]

Matt Bonner sucks:bang:bang:bang

[gameFACE]

If there is any Church of Bonner it just came up empty on the collection plate.

[bless1187]

Bonner had a horrible game; there's no doubt about that. But I'll bump this thread later in this series when he gets 13 points and 5 rebounds on 3 of 5 three-point shooting and is a key part of a Spurs victory.

yeah, i'm sure he'll get one of those game this series.... but u know what, he's a fucking starter!!! he should be getting those kind of stat line on a consistent basis, and when you are starting you should never put a stat line of 0 pts and 1 reb (and he's defense was non-existant, you could see whenever bonner comes in the game, the opponent just attack that match up.

[HarlemHeat37]

was Bonner's flop on Erick fucking Dampier in the post, the worst play of the year for the Spurs? I'd have to say yes..that was absolutely ridiculous..

[Spurs Brazil]

was Bonner's flop on Erick fucking Dampier in the post, the worst play of the year for the Spurs? I'd have to say yes..that was absolutely ridiculous..

When Dampier got the ball on the post I thought to myself, Bonner will fuck this play and he'll get dunked on and he did even worst. He tryed the WORST flop all time. Even CP3 won't come close of that. It was PATHETIC.

And his D on Dirk in the play after that was just as bad.

[poop]

heres a description of game 2:

1.despite criticism, despite all, pop starts bonner.

2.spurs come out agressive, end 1st up 7-10.

3.pop puts mason as PG. offnese dies. mavs come out in 2nd and cut lead to nothing by the half.

4.bonner starts 3rd, gooden,thomas,bowen do not. mavs go on run and take the lead after spurs go 3-4 minutes without a FG.

5. in response to the mav's run, pop changes nothing. despite barea scoring run, Hill remains on the bench.

6. 3 minutes left in 3rd, bowen, gooden, thomas come in. spurs fight back and tie it up, capped off with gooden dunk. gooden comes out and is sat.

7. 4th quarter pop again starts bonner. no bowen, thomas. dirk, mavs go on run and go up 6.

8. 7 min left in game, spurs down. finally parker is put in. still no hill. no bowen. barea contiunes to score.

9. spurs lose by 8-10.

10. bonner = 33 min, 3pts,3rb,5 fouls. meanwhile bowen+thomas+gooden = 25 min.
geaorge hill = 0 min. barea = 20pts, 15 in 2nd half.
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[Spursmania]

he is a very bad matchup against dallas

[thekingrobert]

George hill was benched cause he supposedly isnt ready but it's eveident who isn't ready

[caribbean_spur]

Ok, after tonight I officially belongs to this fan club. If he is not going to contribute in any way, bench the guy.

[sammy]

Bench his ass forever and trade his worthless hide in the off season!

[Spurs_9_20_21]

I'm in. Heck, Bonner shouldn't be comin' off the bench!! He isn't even a bench player with the numbers he's having as a starter. I wish Gooden or Thomas would be a starter over Bonner!! I wish Bonner wasn't even on our team. I'm mean sure he had some good games... but he just disappears after. And all he does is foul, and he doesn't even rebound much!! Bonner sucks!!!!!!

[Spursmania]

Zosa is coming after all you guys, he's a Bonner lover and gives me shit when I post that Bonner is mentally weak and shouldn't be playing as many minutes as he is, unless he earns it by hitting his shots.
LMAO...:lmao

[Lady M]

where i can sign ?

[peskypesky]

Rick Carlisle and his assistant coaches are going to get hernias laughing so hard when they watch the game tape and see Pop putting Bonner back in time and time again.

[peskypesky]

Zosa is coming after all you guys, he's a Bonner lover and gives me shit when I post that Bonner is mentally weak and shouldn't be playing as many minutes as he is, unless he earns it by hitting his shots.
LMAO...:lmao

Zosa is without a doubt a member of the Bonner family. Probably a brother or cousin.

[tomtom]

if hes not making 3's hes useless

[SouthTexasRancher]

this is just disgraceful, wtf is this performance 0 pts, 1 reb, and 3 fouls... man, its just looking like he's getting a free pass to be playing 20-30 min a nite since he knows the system better, regardless of his performance. man, as of now, i'm totally fine if pop just cut him out the rotation, which prolly won't happen.

Bonner just flat out

SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
I mean this guy Really, Really Sucks! He should be in the D-League but, for some reason Pop continues to start his sorry ass.

[lurker23]

Bonner had a horrible game; there's no doubt about that. But I'll bump this thread later in this series when he gets 13 points and 5 rebounds on 3 of 5 three-point shooting and is a key part of a Spurs victory.

Bump. 11 points and 7 rebounds on 3 of 4 from three-point range is a good start. :)

[underdawg]

Bump. 11 points and 7 rebounds on 3 of 4 from three-point range is a good start. :)

sorry, but 3 of 9 is average and Gooden's stats are still just as impressive. Bonner played better tonight, but I still don't see why he warrants more minutes than Gooden.

[Obstructed_View]

sorry, but 3 of 9 is average and Gooden's stats are still just as impressive. Bonner played better tonight, but I still don't see why he warrants more minutes than Gooden.

His defense was an order of magnitude better than Gooden's was. I've got no problem with them starting to compete for minutes going forward. If each of them plays at least as well as they did tonight, the Spurs will be the better for it.

[onarollbaby]

i'm still for Gooden to get more minutes. Bonner should not be benched, when he's hitting the open 3's he's effective. But what if next outing he plays like the way he played in game 1? Then he's useless.

[Spurtacus]

I'm not going to sit here and argue who should get more minutes. Both Bonner and Gooden are vital to the team.

[Obstructed_View]

i'm still for Gooden to get more minutes. Bonner should not be benched, when he's hitting the open 3's he's effective. But what if next outing he plays like the way he played in game 1? Then he's useless.
If Finley plays the way he played in game 1, then he's useless. What if Duncan steps in front of a bus tomorrow? Bonner's a good player, and one of the best three point shooters in the league. Pulling him while he's sucking is fine, but worrying about how he might or might not play doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[onarollbaby]

If Finley plays the way he played in game 1, then he's useless. What if Duncan steps in front of a bus tomorrow? Bonner's a good player, and one of the best three point shooters in the league. Pulling him while he's sucking is fine, but worrying about how he might or might not play doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The thing is Pop should have the balls to limit Bonner's minutes when the guy is having an off night both in offense and defense. It sucks when Pop is somehow prioritizing that Bonner should always have the lion's share of minutes in his position even if he's not being effective.

[Obstructed_View]

The thing is Pop should have the balls to limit Bonner's minutes when the guy is having an off night both in offense and defense. It sucks when Pop is somehow prioritizing that Bonner should always have the lion's share of minutes in his position even if he's not being effective.

I couldn't agree more. The lack of adjustment when he was struggling was on Pop, but the whole team stepped up and Matt seemed to finally come out of the slump he's been in over the past few weeks. Hopefully it won't be an issue from here on out.

[jaffies]

bump

[spursfaninla]

sadly, bonner is having a terrible playoffs, just like he was (mostly) ending the season.

Bonner does not appear to be the answer in the playoffs. The search continues.

In other news, Gooden has sucked the last two games.

[baseline bum]

sadly, bonner is having a terrible playoffs, just like he was (mostly) ending the season.

Bonner does not appear to be the answer in the playoffs. The search continues.

In other news, Gooden has sucked the last two games.

This is the most disappointing game out of Drew this season. Bonner played OK D and had some nice hustle plays, but he should have been pulled as soon as he started passing up shots in the last few minutes. You could tell he was getting scurred again.

[BillMc]

this is just disgraceful, wtf is this performance 0 pts, 1 reb, and 3 fouls... man, its just looking like he's getting a free pass to be playing 20-30 min a nite since he knows the system better, regardless of his performance. man, as of now, i'm totally fine if pop just cut him out the rotation, which prolly won't happen.

Bench Bonner him? Cut him....

[BillMc]

At least Pop seemed to learn that George Hill can play in crunch time... Should help next season. (Okay, I'm looking for silver linings here, work with me...)

[Borosai]

He missed important shots. Not good. But so did all the other 3-point shooters. Hill didn't. Funny how that works.

With better players, Bonner wouldn't start, we all know that. This Spurs team just doesn't have the depth, and that problem lies somewhere else.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

How bout that Clutch rebound by Bizarro Bonner off the Finley miss?

When it looked like it was slipping away with 1:13 minutes left...and we couldn't make a shot to save our life.
Out of nowhere Bonner comes flying out of nowhere like a rebound MONSTER, he held onto the ball like Gollum :wow and kicked it back out to George Hill to spark the 5 point swing for the Spurs....


I was like "FUCK YEAH BIZARRO BONNER"

A minute earlier he executed his plays perfectly, dribble hand offs, rotations on D, everything-- I can see what Pop sees in him, he's just a big playoff performer.

[NRHector]

Not a big game player??

We're gonna need his shooting eventually so he better not avoid looking to get open later.
what do you mean eventually? we need his fucken shooting now not when the series is over

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

what do you mean eventually? we need his fucken shooting now not when the series is over
When I posted that, I was assuming he was going to be BENCHED BY GAME 2...and he'd be getting spot minutes and we would be up 2-1, or 2-2....
I assumed Pop would be wise make the in-game line up change and go with Gooden or even OBERTO to get more of his minutes to try a 2007 approach...therefore Bonner would be given time to simmer and reflect on how much he SUCKS.


INSTEAD HE STARTED EVERY GAME SINCE I POSTED THAT COMMENT :bang:bang:bang:bang:bang

[rayray2k8]

where do I sign?
if bonner plays on monday, it's over.
I will officially say "fuck pop".

[picnroll]

Any team that has Bonner as a starter is a shit team.

[bless1187]

to all you people who argue that bonner should be getting minutes since gooden is sucking more... do you realize that gooden's is in a much tougher situation to contribute than compared to bonner. the thing that pisses me off the most about bonner is that:

he gets plenty of playing time, at least 25 mpg, a good enough time to get your rhythm, compared to drew who comes off the bench and only play 10 mpg, and yet he still had two 0 points game, and one 2 point game.. And even with that disparity in minutes, i still see drew as being more effective than bonner. I CAN GUARANTEE ALL YOU BONNER LOVERS OUT THERE THAT IF GOODEN GETS BONNER'S MINUTE, HE WOULD BE TWICE AS EFFECTIVE.