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BillMc
04-21-2009, 12:02 AM
Bruce played a lot of minutes tonight and defended most of the Mav's key players. It really made me think that whenever Bruce hangs it up, the Spurs organization really should retire his jersey.

Is he a Hall Of Famer? No, but this Spurs team has always prided itself on role players and professionalism and Bruce has been both his whole time here.

How did Bowen contribute?

He went 500 consecutive games as a starter. During that time we won 3 Championships. You could argue that he was more important to the 2003 Championship than Parker. (Remember Bruce's harrassment of Kobe in the Playoffs? And his surprise offense that finished off the Lakers?)

Bruce is an 8 Time All-Defensive Team. Enough said. He completely got in Nash's head during the 2007 playoffs. He was masterful in 2005 against the Pistons. In short, he's the best perimeter defensive specialist in the league since Michael Cooper. He was first runner-up Defensive Player of the year 3 times.

Really, years from now when you think of the "00's" Spurs, you'll think of Bruce almost as much as Tim, Manu, Dave R and Tony. With Tony being young and still learning in the early years, David retiring after 2003 and Manu's injuries the last two playoffs, you can make the argument that Bruce has been as valuable as anyone not named Duncan over the decade

So, I have 3 questions to other Spurs fans:

1. Do you think they should retire Bruce's number when he's done?

2. And will they retire it?

3. What's your favorite Bowen moment/play?

Love to hear your thoughts!

Best, Bill

timvp
04-21-2009, 12:03 AM
Bruce earned his jersey retirement four years ago.

FvckMavs
04-21-2009, 12:03 AM
I guess it is a done deal.

Spurs Brazil
04-21-2009, 12:05 AM
Bruce earned his jersey retirement four years ago.

Agree

For me he's a lock

Josh810
04-21-2009, 12:05 AM
The block against Chauncey in the '05 Finals comes to mind right away. Talk about clutch! Also, his offensive explosion against the Lakers was pretty crazy.

completely deck
04-21-2009, 12:06 AM
Agree

For me he's a lock

no kidding.

Yorae
04-21-2009, 12:06 AM
Without Bowen, spurs defense wouldn't be legendary.

ducks
04-21-2009, 12:07 AM
Bruce earned his jersey retirement four years ago.

if aj got in bruce is a lock

Spurminator
04-21-2009, 12:10 AM
Yeah, 2005 Forum...

Ditty
04-21-2009, 12:10 AM
i hope bruce will be a defensive assiastant when its said for the spurs and done kinda reminds me of mario elie but for sho retire his jersey

ducks
04-21-2009, 12:13 AM
wow are you guys serious? where do we stop with the retired jerseys then??

to answer your questions...

1. no
2. they retired sean and avery so yeah they probably will.
3. i honestly can't think of one.

did you follower the spurs before they got tp?

SequSpur
04-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Since Avery had his jersey retired, I fully expect Jacque Vaughn's to be retired also.

TMTTRIO
04-21-2009, 12:15 AM
They will along with Tim and Tony and maybe Manu if he stays.

baseline bum
04-21-2009, 12:26 AM
bruce earned his jersey retirement six years ago.

fify

The Truth #6
04-21-2009, 12:30 AM
They will along with Tim and Tony and maybe Manu if he stays.

Yeah, the case for Manu sure is pretty iffy.

BillMc
04-21-2009, 12:35 AM
The block against Chauncey in the '05 Finals comes to mind right away. Talk about clutch! Also, his offensive explosion against the Lakers was pretty crazy.

Yeah, the block against Chauncey was key and sooo cool!

Spursfan092120
04-21-2009, 12:38 AM
Bowen better get some serious minutes for the rest of the Spurs 2009 playoffs, no matter how long it goes...they would be lost on D without him.

CubanSucks
04-21-2009, 12:53 AM
Yeah, the case for Manu sure is pretty iffy.

Are you fucking kidding? The big FOUR are all locks. How the fuck is retireing #20 even argued? I mean shit, his jersey sales are the best on the team.

CubanSucks
04-21-2009, 12:56 AM
wow are you guys serious? where do we stop with the retired jerseys then??

to answer your questions...

1. no
2. they retired sean and avery so yeah they probably will.
3. i honestly can't think of one.

This person has absolutely ZERO credibility. I honestly don't even know where to begin.

jdev82
04-21-2009, 12:59 AM
tell me why bruce isn't a HOFer
the peskiest defender since coop, always there in the clutch, playoff ready, deadly from 3, and more hated than kobe in his prime. a stopper and a momentum changer. but then again, they wont give dennis rodman a HOF spot, and hes the greatest defender ever. and teh greatest rebounder ever.

timvp
04-21-2009, 01:03 AM
:lol Manu's a lock too.

SA210
04-21-2009, 01:03 AM
Bruce earned his jersey retirement four years ago.

CubanSucks
04-21-2009, 01:15 AM
Greatest Bruce moment. 07 playoffs vs. Phoenix. I don't think I have to remind anyone how intense that series was. Near the end of one of the later games Bruce puts up a three by Phoenix's bench with them peskering him, he swishes it, and then stares Stoudewhiner down as he jogs back. :flag:

HarlemHeat37
04-21-2009, 01:18 AM
Bowen isn't a hall of famer, not even close..don't get carried away bro..

he's obviously a lock to get his jersey retired, he has been for years..he's been the best perimeter defender of this generation, and a HUGE part of 3 of the 4 titles..

I wonder if Pop will have Finley's jersey retired..that would certainly be an emotional and romantic ceremony..

Spurtacus
04-21-2009, 01:20 AM
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Bowen are locks.

SA210
04-21-2009, 01:23 AM
Mengke Bateer

timvp
04-21-2009, 01:23 AM
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Bowen are locks.Exactly. And then from there on, the bar would be so high to impress Spurs fans that it'd probably take a Hall of Famer to be next. Even a Sean Elliott type player in a decade wouldn't have a chance.

BillMc
04-21-2009, 01:26 AM
Exactly. And then from there on, the bar would be so high to impress Spurs fans that it'd probably take a Hall of Famer to be next. Even a Sean Elliott type player in a decade wouldn't have a chance.

Well said and probably true.

BruceBowenFan
04-21-2009, 01:27 AM
The ninja kick on wally.

BillMc
04-21-2009, 01:30 AM
Bowen isn't a hall of famer, not even close..don't get carried away bro..

he's obviously a lock to get his jersey retired, he has been for years..he's been the best perimeter defender of this generation, and a HUGE part of 3 of the 4 titles..

I wonder if Pop will have Finley's jersey retired..that would certainly be an emotional and romantic ceremony..

While Finley's a pro and a contributor, I don't think his jersey will be retired in San Antonio. Dallas, where he was an all star and stayed longer, should retire Fin's jersey. But there is some bad blood with Cuban, so who knows...

Danny.Zhu
04-21-2009, 01:45 AM
While Finley's a pro and a contributor, I don't think his jersey will be retired in San Antonio. Dallas, where he was an all star and stayed longer, should retire Fin's jersey. But there is some bad blood with Cuban, so who knows...

I guess it will depend on Michael's wishes?

EricB
04-21-2009, 01:47 AM
While Finley's a pro and a contributor, I don't think his jersey will be retired in San Antonio. Dallas, where he was an all star and stayed longer, should retire Fin's jersey. But there is some bad blood with Cuban, so who knows...


I'm guessing theres a tad bit of sarcasm there along with trying to be funny....

Obstructed_View
04-21-2009, 01:57 AM
I'm guessing theres a tad bit of sarcasm there along with trying to be funny....

Please don't tell me you think Fin's jersey should be hanging in the rafters in SA.

EricB
04-21-2009, 01:59 AM
Please don't tell me you think Fin's jersey should be hanging in the rafters in SA.

No I was referring to Harlem's sentence.

No, his number should be retired in Dallas for all that he gave to that franchise.

mattyc
04-21-2009, 05:40 AM
BB should be a lock for having his number retired. Been integral in solidifying the Spurs culture.

rascal
04-21-2009, 08:11 AM
Retired spurs jerseys lost credibility when Avery Johnson's jersey was retired.

Agloco
04-21-2009, 08:18 AM
wow are you guys serious? where do we stop with the retired jerseys then??

to answer your questions...

1. no
2. they retired sean and avery so yeah they probably will.
3. i honestly can't think of one.

:lol:lol

Agloco
04-21-2009, 08:22 AM
Bowen isn't a hall of famer, not even close..don't get carried away bro..

he's obviously a lock to get his jersey retired, he has been for years..he's been the best perimeter defender of this generation, and a HUGE part of 3 of the 4 titles..

I wonder if Pop will have Finley's jersey retired..that would certainly be an emotional and romantic ceremony..

Playing a bit of devils advocate here....

If one were the best rebounder or scorer of their generation, would they get consideration?

Is there a case for the Wallaces, Rodmans and Bowens of the world?

SA210
04-21-2009, 08:43 AM
Playing a bit of devils advocate here....

If one were the best rebounder or scorer of their generation, would they get consideration?

Is there a case for the Wallaces, Rodmans and Bowens of the world?


Yes

will_spurs
04-21-2009, 09:00 AM
When the Spurs go 10+ years without even making the Finals people won't wonder why Bowen's number is hanging in the rafters. Of course he belongs, he was part of the core team that won 3+ rings. Otherwise you would only retire Gervin, D-Rob and Duncan jerseys.

Spurminator
04-21-2009, 09:01 AM
There are those of us who think Bruce should probably have two or three DPOYs in his trophy case right now, and that would have certainly helped his HOF credentials. As it is, he doesn't have a realistic shot without that hardware.

SA210
04-21-2009, 09:06 AM
There are those of us who think Bruce should probably have two or three DPOYs in his trophy case right now, and that would have certainly helped his HOF credentials.


:toast

This is so frickin' true. Yes, He should have had at least 3 or 4 in my opinion. But it's crazy how there are actually people who would say we are crazy for even thinking that. :lol

Biggems
04-21-2009, 09:10 AM
to be honest, bruce is my fave player on the team and my fave player since Robinson, but no he should not have his number retired.

44, 50, and 21 should be the only retired jerseys......maybe 9 when it is all said and done.

The rest of the players should be in a ring of honor......Silas, Moore, AJ, Elliott, Manu, Bowen, Gilmore, Robertson, Kenon, etc.....but their numbers should still be able to be worn by future Spurs.

Rogue
04-21-2009, 09:36 AM
Bruce is my favourite player out of our boys in blue, of course his jersey deserves a place hung on the ceiling of the at&t center.

silverblackfan
04-21-2009, 10:30 AM
You had me at "They should retire Bruce's Number"

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 10:39 AM
Absolutely and for the same reasons Avery's was.

Its not about stats, its about value to the franchise and Bowen has brought that. Its the toughness that he brings, the spirit and fire he has to succeed. He was never a superstar by the traditional definition but he endeared himself to Spurs fans with his hard work. Also Bruce's off the court activities in the community are big. Avery was the same way, you can't have one in the rafters without the other.

Bob Lanier
04-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Absolutely Bruce Bowen should have his Spurs jersey retired.

Playing a bit of devils advocate here....

If one were the best rebounder or scorer of their generation, would they get consideration?

Is there a case for the Wallaces, Rodmans and Bowens of the world?
But Bruce Bowen was none of those things, and he was not the best defender of his generation either - Tim Duncan was. In fact, he wasn't in the top five - all of whom are big men.

Bowen was the best perimeter defender of his generation, but that's like giving consideration to the most tireless at boxing out as "the best rebounder".

Rasheed Wallace was a hell of a lot better at boxing out his man than was Ben Wallace, but absolutely nobody will say that his 6.9 rebounds per game earns him a place with Rodman and Russell.

silverblackfan
04-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Absolutely and for the same reasons Avery's was.

Its not about stats, its about value to the franchise and Bowen has brought that. Its the toughness that he brings, the spirit and fire he has to succeed. He was never a superstar by the traditional definition but he endeared himself to Spurs fans with his hard work. Also Bruce's off the court activities in the community are big. Avery was the same way, you can't have one in the rafters without the other.

Bowen, like his defense, represents more than just quick feet and good positioning. He is tenacious, tough, and smart in running the defense. He is an energy guy and will demand the other players maintain that defensive pressure. His energy and will are paramount to the success of the team, especially when Manu is not playing.
Of course his community work, humor and all around being a good team mate helps make this team special.

rascal
04-21-2009, 11:07 AM
to be honest, bruce is my fave player on the team and my fave player since Robinson, but no he should not have his number retired.

44, 50, and 21 should be the only retired jerseys......maybe 9 when it is all said and done.

The rest of the players should be in a ring of honor......Silas, Moore, AJ, Elliott, Manu, Bowen, Gilmore, Robertson, Kenon, etc.....but their numbers should still be able to be worn by future Spurs.


Agree
Players who did not even make 1 all star appearance should not get retired jerseys. Retired jerseys are for the franchise type players, hall of famers and Bowen is not one of those.

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 11:08 AM
Agree
Players who did not even make 1 all star appearance should not get retired jerseys. Retired jerseys are for the franchise type players, hall of famers and Bowen is not one of those.

According to who?

Bob Lanier
04-21-2009, 11:11 AM
Retired jerseys are for the franchise type players, hall of famers and Bowen is not one of those.
I disagree - the Hall of Fame is for superstar players. A franchise should retire the jerseys of Hall-of-Famers, yes, but also those of players who have made a significant impact on its successes over a prolonged period of time.

Those players are what give franchises an identity, and by loyally honoring them the franchise maintains its identity.

rascal
04-21-2009, 11:21 AM
I disagree - the Hall of Fame is for superstar players. A franchise should retire the jerseys of Hall-of-Famers, yes, but also those of players who have made a significant impact on its successes over a prolonged period of time.

Those players are what give franchises an identity, and by loyally honoring them the franchise maintains its identity.


I disagree. its not the way I agree with because Avery's jersey is retired but it shouldn't be. The more marginal players you retire the less significance a retired jersey has.


I think winning titles has clouded judgement on this. Had Bowen played before Duncan he would not get a retired jersey. A player worthy of getting a retired jersey should get it on his own merits not on team success.

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 11:23 AM
I disagree - the Hall of Fame is for superstar players. A franchise should retire the jerseys of Hall-of-Famers, yes, but also those of players who have made a significant impact on its successes over a prolonged period of time.

Those players are what give franchises an identity, and by loyally honoring them the franchise maintains its identity.

I agree with this.

In actuality, There are no rules for retiring numbers. A team can retire any number at anytime. So there is no right or wrong.

I do like the ring of honor idea though.

rascal
04-21-2009, 11:29 AM
I agree with this.

In actuality, There are no rules for retiring numbers. A team can retire any number at anytime. So there is no right or wrong.

I do like the ring of honor idea though.

Of course there are no rules. The more marginal talented players you retire the less significance the retired jerseys have. AJ should not have a retired jersey, he just was not good enough.

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 11:30 AM
Of course there are no rules. The more marginal talented players you retire the less significance the retired jerseys have. AJ should not have a retired jersey, he just was not good enough.

Just not good enough according to who? Obviously the Spurs thought he was worthy.

rascal
04-21-2009, 11:43 AM
Just not good enough according to who? Obviously the Spurs thought he was worthy.


No doubt the spurs who were running the show at the time thought AJ was worthy. I don't.

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 12:35 PM
No doubt the spurs who were running the show at the time thought AJ was worthy. I don't.

So because you don't mean the Spurs shouldn't?

YODA
04-21-2009, 12:51 PM
to be honest, bruce is my fave player on the team and my fave player since Robinson, but no he should not have his number retired.

44, 50, and 21 should be the only retired jerseys......maybe 9 when it is all said and done.

The rest of the players should be in a ring of honor......Silas, Moore, AJ, Elliott, Manu, Bowen, Gilmore, Robertson, Kenon, etc.....but their numbers should still be able to be worn by future Spurs.

I agree with this post in alot of ways. IT because of the championships that Sean and AJ got their jerseys retired. Do you think they would have been retired had they played in the 90's and not won a title? I have to go with no.
For the record, I think they should be retired for being the 1st ones to get us a title.
Only Mario ellie form the 99 team will not get his jersey retired. Manu TP Tim are locks even if they one day leave. they got us titles and that goes along way.

There have been a ton of great players who probably have better numbers abd more deserving, but dont get it for being on losing teams.
Artis Gilmore, Alvin Robinson, and Terry Cummings come to mind.

my vote is yes, the man deserves it.

Spurminator
04-21-2009, 01:00 PM
Jersey retirements are for people who hold a special and irreplaceable place in a franchise's history. Bowen has played eight years for this team, won three Championships and gotten some of the highest accolades for his defensive work. He has accepted less than he was worth and worked his ass off every year he's been here. He has personified Spurs Basketball this decade.

baseline bum
04-21-2009, 01:02 PM
Greatest Bruce moment. 07 playoffs vs. Phoenix. I don't think I have to remind anyone how intense that series was. Near the end of one of the later games Bruce puts up a three by Phoenix's bench with them peskering him, he swishes it, and then stares Stoudewhiner down as he jogs back. :flag:

:tu

tFvVztx801A

I liked this one better though:

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Drachen
04-21-2009, 01:40 PM
Since Avery had his jersey retired, I fully expect Jacque Vaughn's to be retired also.

I understand you are exaggerating, I would say that a more accurate description would be that Bonner is going to have his number retired since Avery had his. What a stupid decision.

Yes Bowen is going to be there and yes he should.

SA210
04-21-2009, 03:10 PM
Jersey retirements are for people who hold a special and irreplaceable place in a franchise's history. Bowen has played eight years for this team, won three Championships and gotten some of the highest accolades for his defensive work. He has accepted less than he was worth and worked his ass off every year he's been here. He has personified Spurs Basketball this decade.


:toast

FromWayDowntown
04-21-2009, 03:47 PM
Jersey retirements are for people who hold a special and irreplaceable place in a franchise's history. Bowen has played eight years for this team, won three Championships and gotten some of the highest accolades for his defensive work. He has accepted less than he was worth and worked his ass off every year he's been here. He has personified Spurs Basketball this decade.

:tu

His value to the Spurs has exceeded his output on the floor.

Retiring 12 is a no-brainer at this point.

Obstructed_View
04-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Agree
Players who did not even make 1 all star appearance should not get retired jerseys. Retired jerseys are for the franchise type players, hall of famers and Bowen is not one of those.

Regardless, the Spurs have already set the bar much lower than that, and Bowen more than qualifies to have his number in the rafters. If AJ's there, Bowen should be, period.

DAF86
04-21-2009, 03:59 PM
if aj got in bruce is a lock

Mas Juan.

Man of Steel
04-21-2009, 04:00 PM
Hell yes! The big FOUR!!

BillMc
04-21-2009, 04:37 PM
:tu

tFvVztx801A

I liked this one better though:

sE6WkyPDSF8

Great! As we're playing the Mavs you might like this one:

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spursfan1000
04-21-2009, 04:39 PM
Yeah I hope they retire his jersey, he has done alot for this orginasation and has deserved it.

z0sa
04-21-2009, 04:40 PM
Agree
Players who did not even make 1 all star appearance should not get retired jerseys. Retired jerseys are for the franchise type players, hall of famers and Bowen is not one of those.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115037

Bruce may not have made it, but he was damn close! :smokin

Obstructed_View
04-21-2009, 04:41 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115037

Bruce may not have made it, but he was damn close! :smokin

:lol

That's a whole lot closer than AJ got, unless you count coaching.

BillMc
04-21-2009, 04:47 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115037

Bruce may not have made it, but he was damn close! :smokin

Yeah, that would have been cool. It was a bit of a fluke, given he wasn't starting any more. But, if you need proof that he can still play at 37 here's 1 from this year:

5jY-T5iZfwo

It is very possible that Pop was just giving Bruce a ton of rest during the regular season to save his old legs and see what the newer/younger players can do. Now that its the playoffs, time to take the 'old man' out of mothballs and get serious!

Marcus Bryant
04-21-2009, 04:49 PM
This is a team honor, not the fucking HoF.

Obstructed_View
04-21-2009, 05:02 PM
This is a team honor, not the fucking HoF.

The NBA doesn't understand or appreciate Bowen anyway. If you go to their photo site, there are two dozen pictures of Bowen and none of them show him playing defense.

BillMc
04-21-2009, 05:24 PM
i hope bruce will be a defensive assiastant when its said for the spurs and done kinda reminds me of mario elie but for sho retire his jersey

I would like to see Bruce as an assistant someday too, teaching defense to some of the younger guys...

SouthTexasRancher
04-21-2009, 08:51 PM
Bruce played a lot of minutes tonight and defended most of the Mav's key players. It really made me think that whenever Bruce hangs it up, the Spurs organization really should retire his jersey.

Is he a Hall Of Famer? No, but this Spurs team has always prided itself on role players and professionalism and Bruce has been both his whole time here.

How did Bowen contribute?

He went 500 consecutive games as a starter. During that time we won 3 Championships. You could argue that he was more important to the 2003 Championship than Parker. (Remember Bruce's harrassment of Kobe in the Playoffs? And his surprise offense that finished off the Lakers?)

Bruce is an 8 Time All-Defensive Team. Enough said. He completely got in Nash's head during the 2007 playoffs. He was masterful in 2005 against the Pistons. In short, he's the best perimeter defensive specialist in the league since Michael Cooper. He was first runner-up Defensive Player of the year 3 times.

Really, years from now when you think of the "00's" Spurs, you'll think of Bruce almost as much as Tim, Manu, Dave R and Tony. With Tony being young and still learning in the early years, David retiring after 2003 and Manu's injuries the last two playoffs, you can make the argument that Bruce has been as valuable as anyone not named Duncan over the decade

So, I have 3 questions to other Spurs fans:

1. Do you think they should retire Bruce's number when he's done?

2. And will they retire it?

3. What's your favorite Bowen moment/play?

Love to hear your thoughts!

Best, Bill


Pop will make sure Bowen's jersey is retired. Bruce is a very classy guy who puts teammates and the city first. You'll never hear him complain about anything. San Antonio has been very fortunate to have so many of these classy guys throughout the years.

Spurlady
04-21-2009, 08:52 PM
Jersey retirements are for people who hold a special and irreplaceable place in a franchise's history. Bowen has played eight years for this team, won three Championships and gotten some of the highest accolades for his defensive work. He has accepted less than he was worth and worked his ass off every year he's been here. He has personified Spurs Basketball this decade.

Totally agree.

Moreover, this is a team sport so while there are players that get a jersey retired based solely on their own contributions as an all star, I think Bowen's contributions to the team make him worthy of a jersey retirement. It is very possible that without his defensive contributions in 03, 05 and 07 that the Spurs would not have won championships.

Obstructed_View
04-21-2009, 10:50 PM
Totally agree.

Moreover, this is a team sport so while there are players that get a jersey retired based solely on their own contributions as an all star, I think Bowen's contributions to the team make him worthy of a jersey retirement. It is very possible that without his defensive contributions in 03, 05 and 07 that the Spurs would not have won championships.

It is more than very possible, it's absolutely the truth.

Creation88
04-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Bruce has to get his # retired. he's been the "hidden" MVP for this team for a loooooooooong time.

CubanSucks
04-21-2009, 11:33 PM
Would somebody PLEASE make a poll thread already asking if you think Bowen's jersey should be retired? I think it's time considering this thread has gone 4 pages. I would but I don't know how. PLEASE!!!

SA210
04-21-2009, 11:40 PM
Bruce has to get his # retired. he's been the "hidden" MVP for this team for a loooooooooong time.

CubanSucks
04-21-2009, 11:48 PM
tFvVztx801A

DAMN, I don't think I've ever felt so happy as a Spurs fan as I did after that play...besides the championships of coarse. It's like Bowen did what all of us wanted so badly to do at the perfect time. :pimpslap

Taco
04-22-2009, 07:47 AM
They Should Retire Bruce's Number When He's Done!

:tu

Dex
04-22-2009, 12:41 PM
Number 12 deserves to be in the rafters someday, and as a Spurs fan and somebody who appreciates everything that Bruce has done for this franchise, I'll be personally offended if it isn't.

CubanSucks
04-22-2009, 04:26 PM
Would somebody PLEASE make a poll thread already asking if you think Bowen's jersey should be retired? I think it's time considering this thread has gone 4 pages. I would but I don't know how. PLEASE!!!

Spurminator
04-22-2009, 04:34 PM
A poll is pointless. 90% of Spurs fans would agree. At this point it's almost as useful as arguing about whether or not Duncan should have his jersey retired.

CubanSucks
04-22-2009, 05:17 PM
A poll is pointless. 90% of Spurs fans would agree. At this point it's almost as useful as arguing about whether or not Duncan should have his jersey retired.

You obviously haven't read all 4 pages. And anyway, I would love to quiet the opinions of those who disagree. But since it apparently would require so much fucking effort...

FaithInOne
04-22-2009, 05:25 PM
LOL :lmao, they retired #6

Bruce has this on lockdown.

BillMc
04-23-2009, 07:11 PM
Totally agree.

Moreover, this is a team sport so while there are players that get a jersey retired based solely on their own contributions as an all star, I think Bowen's contributions to the team make him worthy of a jersey retirement. It is very possible that without his defensive contributions in 03, 05 and 07 that the Spurs would not have won championships.

Without Bruce's great D and surprise offense we might not beat the Lakers in '03. And in the '05 Finals he was a wrecking ball, made Billups life in particular very difficult.

Those are just the examples that come to mind. There's certainly countless more.

timtonymanu
06-07-2009, 03:39 AM
hell yes his jersey should be retired. He is a true Spur. Tim, Manu, Tony, and Bruce all deserve it.

My favorite plays from him were his block on Billups in 05. his six 3's against LA in 03. his amazing defense.

Yuixafun
06-08-2009, 05:15 PM
Yes. Yes.


NBA Playoffs 2007 / Western Conference Semifinals / Game 5 / Spurs@Suns

Bruce Bowen, labeled a dirty player by the Suns' Amare Stoudemire and the subject of taunts all night from the Phoenix crowd, sank a tiebreaking 3-pointer with 36 seconds to play. That gave the Spurs their first lead since the game's opening six minutes, and they pulled out an 88-85 victory on Wednesday night.

"It felt great," Bowen said. "After all the things I was hearing from the sidelines it was great. The people were calling me choice names I had never heard before."

San Antonio took a 3-2 lead in the best-of-seven series --> this play description from youtube.

spurscenter
06-09-2009, 02:30 AM
I think they should also retire the following

https://www.beckett.com/images/pgitems/1910880801.jpg

tonight...you
09-28-2016, 09:24 PM
Bruce played a lot of minutes tonight and defended most of the Mav's key players. It really made me think that whenever Bruce hangs it up, the Spurs organization really should retire his jersey.

Is he a Hall Of Famer? No, but this Spurs team has always prided itself on role players and professionalism and Bruce has been both his whole time here.

How did Bowen contribute?

He went 500 consecutive games as a starter. During that time we won 3 Championships. You could argue that he was more important to the 2003 Championship than Parker. (Remember Bruce's harrassment of Kobe in the Playoffs? And his surprise offense that finished off the Lakers?)

Bruce is an 8 Time All-Defensive Team. Enough said. He completely got in Nash's head during the 2007 playoffs. He was masterful in 2005 against the Pistons. In short, he's the best perimeter defensive specialist in the league since Michael Cooper. He was first runner-up Defensive Player of the year 3 times.

Really, years from now when you think of the "00's" Spurs, you'll think of Bruce almost as much as Tim, Manu, Dave R and Tony. With Tony being young and still learning in the early years, David retiring after 2003 and Manu's injuries the last two playoffs, you can make the argument that Bruce has been as valuable as anyone not named Duncan over the decade

So, I have 3 questions to other Spurs fans:

1. Do you think they should retire Bruce's number when he's done?

2. And will they retire it?

3. What's your favorite Bowen moment/play?

Love to hear your thoughts!

Best, Bill

Good call bud. Who saw what ended up happening with his jersey actually happening? By the way: Watching Space Mutiny right now. MST3K S8 Ep20. Still hilarious. "She's a sexy senior citizen," lol.

BillMc
09-28-2016, 09:56 PM
Good call bud. Who saw what ended up happening with his jersey actually happening? By the way: Watching Space Mutiny right now. MST3K S8 Ep20. Still hilarious. "She's a sexy senior citizen," lol.

Thanks. Man that's an old post. I used to write so much more succinctly in my youth! :lol

Space Mutiny is great. I watched that in July. Be sure to check out the chick that gets killed and is then in some later scenes because of crappy editing. Or the climatic car chase. :lol Man, I may have to watch that again...

tonight...you
09-28-2016, 10:06 PM
Thanks. Man that's an old post. I used to write so much more succinctly in my youth! :lol

Space Mutiny is great. I watched that in July. Be sure to check out the chick that gets killed and is then in some later scenes because of crappy editing. Or the climatic car chase. :lol Man, I may have to watch that again...
"I'm so glad you gave that dead girl another chance!" Lol.

BillMc
09-28-2016, 10:27 PM
"I'm so glad you gave that dead girl another chance!" Lol.
:lmao

Spurtacular
10-01-2016, 02:46 PM
Retiring numbers is way overdone, tbh.