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Gervin44Silas13
04-21-2009, 01:40 PM
Intresting Article from CBS Sports Community...

Enjoy Spurs Fans it's a long ass article on how we killed the Phoenix Suns, they might have closed the Hemisfair Arena but we sure put the franchise in it's coffin. !!!!!!!

Rise And Fall of the Phoenix Suns

January 22, 2009
For four years, few teams matched the excitement and mystique that surrounded when the Phoenix Suns were set to appear in a basketball game. Led by the innovative Mike D'Antoni and highly successful Steve Nash, the Suns resurrected a moribound franchise and turned the NBA upside down in the process. With quick cuts, fantastic slams around the basket, a plethora of three point baskets and with absolutely no defense (which in turn allows the other team to follow through with all of those aforementioned offensive attractions) the Phoenix Suns became the team for the casual NBA fan, and the team that most of us wanted to watch when we felt like being assured entertaining basketball. But funny things happen when you tinker with the system and bring things that people are not used to to the forefront. When you introduce basketball's version of the spread offense, success can be attained but only when you bring championships are your efforts truly respected. Many people passed off D'Antoni's philosophy on basketball and said that it could not win championships. That same criticism turned the greatest period in Phoenix Suns basketball upside down, and seemingly prolonged the franchise's now 40 year history.

It all started with a trade back in 2001, when the Suns traded future hall of fame point guard Jason Kidd for the insanely talented Stephon Marbury. This trade was supposed to be a nice swap of talented guards which would result in hardly a change for either squad. Instead, the Suns went to the lottery and the Nets went to the NBA finals. Stephon Marbury's frustrating first season in Phoenix resulted in a trip to the lottery for the Suns, which resulted in Amar'e Stoudemire being added to the team. With Stoudemire garnering rookie of the year honors and the team's quiet acquisition of guard Joe Johnson from the Boston Celtics, the Suns sneaked into the playoffs with the 8th seed and surprised the top ranked San Antonio Spurs in game 1 of their first round matchup. Shortly thereafter, though, the Spurs would emerge victorious and things took a turn for the better; eventually.

The 2003-2004 season started off with mediocre expectations for a seemingly dirrectionless Phoenix franchise. Then in midseason, amidst the team's struggles and inability to show any immediate progress, owner Robert Sarver steamheaded a complete reconstruction of the Suns. Both Jerry and Brian Colangelo went to work on putting the pieces in place for this team to fully take off. Frank Johnson was removed from the head coaching position and assistant coach and longtime European league coach Mike D'Antoni would be given the reigns. Also, in what would headstart a completely opposite direction for the two franchises, the Suns sent Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway to the New York Knicks for five players who would not finish the season as Phoenix Suns players in addition to two first round draft selections. Although the Knicks made the playoffs that season, nobody could have predicted the decline that would soon follow Stephon Marbury's fourth franchise. Then again, nobody could have predicted the ascension that awaited in Arizona.

In the offseason, the Suns quickly gave Mike D'Antoni a vote of confidence despite his 21-40 record finishing the season as Phoenix's head coach. The team's late surge, which was spurred by guard Joe Johnson, rookie guard Leandro Barbosa and now second year forward Amar'e Stoudemire could have been a huge factor in why D'Antoni was given a second chance. Once free agency started, the Suns made a big splash by signing free agent point guard Steve Nash and free agent forward Quentin Richardson. D'Antoni would move Stoudemire to center and insert forward Shawn Marion at the power forward position (a move Marion continuously complained about despite putting up the best numbers of his career) giving the team a ridiculously small lineup. What ensured was pure, utter, fast break basketball.

Steve Nash spearheaded a revolutionary style of play as the Suns quickly brought offense back to the forefront in the NBA. Gone where the days of walking a ball upcourt while your seven foot center could set up under the basket. With quick, athletic big men like Stoudemire and Marion and with an intelligent and talented point guard like Steve Nash leading the way, the Suns went on to average 110.4 points per game (although giving up 103.3 PPG) and posted an NBA best 62-20 record. Steve Nash shocked all by winning the NBA MVP award while D'Antoni and Colangelo were given the coach and executive of the year awards respectively. In the playoffs, guard Joe Johnson would succumb to an eye injury and the Suns would sorely miss his leadership and skillset. A sound defeat of the Memphis Grizzlies and a trouncing of the Dallas Mavericks set the Suns up with who would become the main reason for the Suns eventual decline: the San Antonio Spurs.

The San Antonio Spurs are basically the anti-Phoenix Sun. They don't dazzle you with fantastic athleticism or bombard you with a multitude of points, they systematically and soudnly defeat their opponents by way of Tim Duncan and a group of role players that are fine performing their tasks for the sake of the greater good: a Larry O'Brien Trophy. The Spurs two centers that year, Nazr Mohammed and Rasho Nesterovic, would probably not even get a sniff from D'Antoni yet wound up becoming productive players on championship teams. Was D'Antoni's emphasis on speed and offense neglecting all that you were tought growing up? Is a great offense truly better than a great defense? Can you win scoring 110 points instead of focusing on holding your opponents below 90? These all came to a head in this true battle of wits.

Amar'e Stoudemire would experience a coming out party against the Spurs, as San Antonio had no answer for the young player on his way to averages totaling over 30 PPG in the series. But the Spurs, with two championship trophies already to their credit, would be able to answer every trick Phoenix tried. Bruce Bowen was there to contain Steve Nash's explosiveness, Tony Parker was there to expose Nash's glaring defensive deffeciences, Tim Duncan was there to take care of Stoudemire's similar weaknesses, and the Spurs took the Suns out in 5 games, bringing end to the fantastic first season in the D'Antoni era.

Many people did not know what to expect for an encore in Phoenix. The gimmick offense was sure to be stopped when teams were given ample time to prepare for it. Expectations can always ruin a team not used to winning, and Joe Johnson and Amar'e Stoudemire would be gone, Johnson in a trade to the Atlanta Hawks and Stoudemire due to knee surgery. The Joe Johnson trade brought Boris Diaw, an afterthought in many instances and then the Suns shipped Quentin Richardson and the draft rights to Nate Robinson to New York for a center in Kurt Thomas that they believed would be able to counter Tim Duncan's effectiveness in a seven game series. The team also obtained guard Raja Bell, a player praised for his on the ball defensive prowress and three point effeciency. But the sky was not the limit this season, as, without Stoudemire, many expected the Suns to fail.

Stoudemire's absence meant wonderful things for Shawn Marion who turned in the best year of his career. Boris Diaw proved out to be a fantastic find by the Colangelo's, winning the NBA most improved player of the year award, and Steve Nash went on to win his second consecutive NBA MVP award after helping lead the Suns to a 54-28 record in the regular season. But the signs of the eventual decline already started to take shape. Bryan Colangelo was said to have major conflicts with owner Robert Sarver and bolted to take the General Manager position with the Toronto Raptors. Stoudemire received heavy criticism from the organization when he spent a majority of the season away from the squad while tending to his knee. And although the team managed to avoid the Spurs in the postseason, draining seven game series with both the Los Angeles Lakers and Clippers took alout of Phoenix, as they simply had nothing left by the time they met the Dirk Nowitzki led Mavericks in a second consecutive Western Conference Finals.

The 2006-2007 season brought about great expectations for the Phoenix squad. With Boris Diaw teaming with Leandro Barbosa on the bench, the Suns were supposed to finally have that deep squad that would allow for D'Antoni to stray from his favored 7-man rotations and still provide the same innovative offensive schemes that had been prominent the previous two seasons. Phoenix struggled with chemistry some, including Stoudemire back into the lineup and it showed. The team, though, rebounded quickly to the tune of 61 victories and a No. 2 seed in the playoffs.

Elsewhere in the NBA, the 67 victory Dallas Mavericks had been upset by the Golden State Warriors in the playoffs in what would be largely noted as the greatest upset in playoff history, and the Utah Jazz would celebrate their return to the playoffs after a three year absence with a victory over the Houston Rockets, giving the Suns home court advantage, now, throughout the playoffs and seemingly the drivers seat to an elusive championship. After the Suns quickly dispatched of the Lakers for a second consecutive season, they saw themselves standing opposite the 3rd seeded San Antonio Spurs, and a fantastic conference semifinals ensued.

Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker quickly asserted physiciality into the already deeply rooted rivalry with the Spurs, as Steve Nash left game 1 with a bloodied nose recieved from Parker and could not finish the game, as the Spurs pulled out a close victory. This brought about major criticism as some felt it was unfair for the Suns to lose without their best player due to excessive blood loss, but the rules would stay and the Spurs maintained a 1-0 series lead. After taking game 2, Phoenix would head to San Antonio for one of the most controversial games in recent memory. Game 3 between the Spurs and the Suns was known for its excessive fouls called, constant whistles and annoying lack of gamesmanship in the contest. The Spurs would ride a questionable free throw advantage to the victory and then all hell broke loose. With Phoenix rebounding to take game 4, Robert Horry stepped in front of Steve Nash on a harmless drive down the baseline, and changed the Phoenix Suns forever.

With the series tied at 2 games apiece and heading back to Phoenix, all cards seemed to be in place for Phoenix to finally nudge past their nemisis and gain ground towards becoming NBA Champions. But Horry's flagrant foul on Steve Nash sent the Suns into a frenzy, which resulted in both Stoudemire and Diaw leaving the Suns bench and therefore forcing the NBA's hand in having to suspend those two players for a critical game 5 in Phoenix. Mike D'Antoni criticized the decision but his efforts went unnoticed as the suspensions stood. A game Phoenix crowd and shorthanded squad gave the Spurs trouble but eventually succumbed in a game 5 loss. The team returned to San Antonio demoralized, and could not take advantage of Stoudemire and Diaw's reintroduction into the lineup and would lose game 6 in San Antonio.

In effect, the Robert Horry foul gave Phoenix their first leigitmate gripe of the D'Antoni era. Being too inexperienced in 2005 and too tired in 2006, 2007 seemed a prime opportunity for Phoenix to grab the franchise's first championship. The Horry foul took away their best shot at putting a foot down on the rival Spurs' throats, and assured us all that there's always that one squad that prevents you from winning. For Phoenix, it was San Antonio. The Spurs went on to win the championship that season, and in the process demoralized alot of the Phoenix fan base. The same team would essentially return for 2007-2008 but the excitement, hunger and mystique surrounding the franchise had gone away. After posting a mediocre start to the season, new general manager Steve Kerr would make the move that effectively ended the D'Antoni era in Phoenix.

Entering 2007-2008, the spirit and excitement surrounding Phoenix had diminished as quickly as had been experienced in quite some time. This was not the look of a hungry team, aspiring to finally get over that hump and gain championship glory. Instead it was a beaten team, with spirits down and excuses aplenty. Mike D'Antoni's position as coach of that luck deprived team was not enviable. As a coach, there's only so many ways you can encourage your team to continue to play outside of their capabilities as they continue to receive short hand after short hand. This was a city and fan base starved for championship success and the Suns represented their best opportunity at achieving that. But after falling short three successive seasons, a lot of the blame went towards D'Antoni's style and basketball philosophy.

Who knows whether the fast break, 7 seconds or less style offense will ever be the catalyst for a team looking to gain the Larry O'Brien Trophy? Mike D'Antoni took a franchise with no direction and made it one of the most successful and exciting teams since the days of the Lakers three-peat. It was a team that played a style everyone who has played basketball could admire. But the fact that the anti-Suns, the San Antonio Spurs, had defeated the Suns in two out of the three postseasons where D'Antoni was at the helm created a lot of skepticism surrounding the system. Steve Nash had won two MVP awards and put up astounding numbers as a point guard, but was contiuously exposed by Tony Parker against the Spurs and with his age coming into question, many people wondered how much longer D'Antoni could play Nash heavy minutes, run that style of offense and still have likely aspirations to win a championship. It was believed that the window was closing on D'Antoni's team and panic was setting in. To try and win a championship, owner Robert Sarver took D'Antoni out of control of the front office and hired a former Spur, five time NBA Champion Steve Kerr, to run the franchise.

Kerr and D'Antoni immediately butted heads on how they believed the team was supposed to operate. Kerr wanted to stress size, a certain style of play and an emphasis on defense that seemed to be lacking in D'Antoni's style. Shawn Marion, although he continuously put up fantastic numbers in D'Antoni's system, repeatedly went to the press about how unhappy he was in Phoenix and as a result brought down the morale of the squad. As if the team had not yet recovered from the demoralizing loss to the Spurs, a locker room morale was so dangerously low that mediocrity seemed to be creeping back into the Phoenix franchise. The Suns, at the time of early February, were a 34-14 team but did not maintain that excitement and emotion that they possesed for the previous three seasons. So Steve Kerr traded the locker room question mark in Shawn Marion and brought in the player least fit for D'Antoni's system, former NBA MVP and three time champion Shaquille O'Neal.

In his prime, Shaquille O'Neal was quite possibly the most dominant player in the NBA's history. He made his debut in the league at the time of the Patrick Ewing's, David Robinson's, and Hakeem Olajuwon's of the league and then carried that domination into the 21st century as one of the only true centers left in the league. His charisma, humor and overall talent left him as one of the most embracable and exciting players in the NBA's history. Shaq arriving brought a lot of questions, but ultimately brought a renewed excitement to the team. He immediately promised a championship ring, and promised that his age (35 years old) and lack of mobility (how agile could someone 7'1" and 325 pounds be) would not prevent Phoenix from continuing their style of play and that they could still gain a championship with him being the elephant in the room (no pun intended). Allowing Amar'e Stoudemire to move to power forward, it created a more realistic approach to the lineup for Phoenix but greatly altered their effectiveness on the offensive side of the ball. Many said this was a move for the postseason, so that they could counter the size of the Lakers and Spurs and that only then could we truly rate the move for Steve Kerr. The team went 18-11 with O'Neal in the lineup to finish the season and finished with 55 wins and the sixth seed in the NBA Western Conference. The team that held the 3rd seed: the San Antonio Spurs.

The excitement surrounding the Suns matchup with their bitter rivals, the team that they acquired Shaquille O'Neal to beat, was quickly lost when the Suns were demoralized in a classic game 1 in San Antonio. With the Suns maintaining a lead for the majority of the game, a big shot by Michael Finley and a monster game by Tim Duncan helped the Spurs shock the Suns in double overtime and quickly let the air out of the Phoenix Suns sail. The Suns fought hard but could not recover from the demoralizing game 1, and quickly bowed out in 5 games. An offseason of questions awaited.

Mike D'Antoni immediately voiced his displeasure with Steve Kerr and was given the opportunity to find a new job, which he found with the New York Knicks. Steve Kerry signed players such as Matt Barnes and a new head coach in Terry Porter looking to quickly shape the mentality and construction of this unit into more of a realistic lineup. It brought conventionality, but lacked excitement. To date, Steve Nash is having his worst year as a Phoenix Sun, players are unhappy with Terry Porter's approach and they boast a 23-17 record.

There are many reasons as to why the Phoenix Suns crashed as hard as they had risen in Arizona. Management could be the first place to point at, with their continuous questionable decisions. Bryan Colangelo left to run the team in Toronto, but left behind huge salary issues for coach Mike D'Antoni to deal with before Kerr's arrival. Players like Nate Robinson and Luol Deng were drafted by Phoenix, but quickly shipped out to create cap flexibility. Nate Robinson was traded with Quentin Richardson for Kurt Thomas, the player supposed to give the team a defensive inside presence. Thomas fit in greatly with the Suns and performed admirably against Duncan in the 2007 Conference Semifinals, but the team could no longer afford him and he was shipped to the then Seattle Supersonics for a 2nd Round draft pick and 8 million dollar trade exception. Huge contracts were given to Boris Diaw, who vastly underachieved when Stoudemire returned to the lineup and to Leandro Barbosa, who never took his game to that next level. They gave a huge contract to Stoudemire, who was undergoing career threatening arthroscopic knee surgery and let the draft rights to Luol Deng go for a first round draft pick and cash considerations. Rajon Rondo, the point guard for the NBA Champion Boston Celtics was also a draft pick by the Phoenix Suns but was also traded for a first round draft pick and cash. The Shaqille O'Neal trade could be involved here, but it wasn't really a bad trade, Just a mispalced player in D'Antoni's system. O'Neal brought new excitement to a depressed fan base and although he did not deliver, his effort and dedication has been tremendous in Phoenix and he should not be blamed for the team's decline. When you focus so much on free agency, it disallows a team to grow and also be secure in their future. When the players you have rapidly show their age, you have no other options and those questionable decisions that were made for the immediate "now" are why the team has such a questionable future.

For all that D'Antoni revolutionized in basketball, his coaching and coaching related decisions were brought into question continously in the postseason. When the team needed to get a crucial stop in a playoff environment, the team continuously failed to follow through and as a result focussed entirely on effeciency on the offensive side. In an 82 game season, that begins to wear on a team looking to maintain stability and win a championship. Not only does the system wear on the players, heavy minutes contribute to that. D'Antoni was notorious for not playing his bench players and as a result his teams would show decline in the postseason and also would remove themselves from almost any offseason activity to maintain legs for the regular season. D'Antoni's style of play was exciting, but watching his team fail brings to question whether that style of offense could ever win. As a result, we've seen a quick flirtation with the system dissapear this season with scoring coming back down after the way the Suns and Golden State Warriors failed.

Also brouht into question for the Phoenix Suns was their psychological strength. Crushing blows to the team at the hands of Amar'e Stoudemire's knee and also crushing losses to the San Antonio Spurs always seemed to give this team an excuse when they lost. When you become comfortable with losing it creates an environment that nobody wants to be associated with. The Phoenix Suns wanted to win, and losing undoubtedly bothered them, but they also were quick to point at other factors as to why they lost. As a result, accountability was absent in Phoenix and the team no longer was responsible for their performance on the court. D'Antoni's emotional state on the sidelines greatly affected this as the Suns became so paranoid, that every single call that went against them turned into reason for panic amongst the fan base and more crucially, the players. Shawn Marion's constant bickering about his role in the offense and lack of appreciation also created distractions for a team with bigger goals in mind than Marion's statistics. His lack of maturity in the team's crucial minutes was a huge factor in why the team declined in the 2007-2008 season and why they were forced to make the Shaquille O'Neal trade.

Amar'e Stoudemire's injury could be the sole reason for the Suns peaking so early and falling so quickly. In the 2004-2005 season, Phoenix relied heavily on Stoudemire at the center position and he responded with career numbers and fantastic dunks not seen or recognized by anyone up until that time. Given that he was only 21, many people saw a bright future ahead for Stoudemire. A knee injury took him out for the Suns surprising (and probably most successful) 2005-2006 campaign but his return brought hope that he was the missing piece in that trademark year for D'Antoni and Phoenix. Stoudemire returned with a solid 2006-2007 season, averaging over 20 points a game and displaying a brand new, highly effective 18 foot jump shot. Stoudemire, though, has seemingly reached his potential too early. The injury is probably the biggest reason for that, but his best season is still 2004-2005, and now, three full years after that injury, he still lacks the explosiveness that made him so effective and the mystique and fear some felt when matching up with him is gone. He's become a finesse player, also a locker room distraction, and looks destined to be this generation's Derrick Coleman, a player with so much untapped potential who will get by in his career simply with talent.

Age is another huge factor as to why Phoenix so rapidly declined. Last season, acquiring the way past his prime Shaquille O'Neal added to a team already full of players in their 30's, including crucial pieces such as Steve Nash, Grant Hill, and Raja Bell. Their reliance on players so deep into their careers undoubtedly contributed to the team's lack of energy in certain playoff games and, coupled with the heavy minutes, was reason for rapid decline in D'Antoni's system.

But all things considered, it's safe to say the San Antonio Spurs are solely responsible for the decline of the Phoenix Suns. Their style of play won two championships during D'Antoni's reign in Phoenix and three out of the four seasons that D'Antoni was in charge of Phoenix, the Spurs eleminated the Suns from the postseason. Tim Duncan and company continuously had answers for all offensive ideas and strategies that D'Antoni could possibly fathom and gave fans reason to focus on how to beat the Spurs, instead of how to win games on their own.

It remains in question whether D'Antoni will ever win a championship, although he's gotten the Knicks to overachieve midway through this season. But there's no doubt that his contributions to the Phoenix franchise will forever be remebered by fans and players alike as he was able to bring excitement back to basketball and also get the Suns to the most successful period of their franchise. A team's desparate desire for a championship can bring unecessary criticism when frustration sets in. The team's continued lack of toughness in critical situations and constant short handing at the hands of the league and fate provided plenty of reasons for frustration amongst a loyal fan base. This set in the panic moves such as bringing Steve Kerr in and forcing D'Antoni to leave despite his amazing winning percentage. It was nice to admire and watch during the time when it took place, but also creates a sad environment for Phoenix fans. The closest they've gotten to a championship since Charles Barkley's stay in Phoenix was ended by many factors and they remain a spectacle and topic of discussion for fans around the league. Phoenix may not be able to regain the success D'Antoni had the team become accustomed to but there will be success in Phoenix eventually, they always find a way to sustain a fine level of play in that franchise. But with Stoudemire's sudden lack of presence and with the team boasting players ready to turn a new leaf in their careers the team's future is blurred. Steve Kerr, brought in to help the team win a championship, is already on the hotseat and questions remain about whether he will be the guy at the helm to do the job in Phoenix.

Regardless of who's in charge, it's safe to say the D'Antoni era brought entertainment, joy and excitement to a franchise that had no direction. But as quickly as it happened, it left in those 2007 conference semifinals. The team flamed out and for that reason remain a fascinating story of how a team can quickly ascend, but how contributiong factors could make it increasingly difficult to maintain success.

boutons_deux
04-21-2009, 01:45 PM
mystique? run-and-gun is mysterious? :lol

Chomag
04-21-2009, 01:51 PM
I'm actually feeling sorry for what he have done to that franchise.:(

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 01:56 PM
I'm actually feeling sorry for what he have done to that franchise.:(

Even though "we" didn't do anything....I don't feel sorry for Phoenix.

duncan228
04-21-2009, 02:00 PM
There was another one similar to this. The Spurs are in their heads.

The collapse of a contender in 2,500 words or less
By Valley of the Suns

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117851

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 02:02 PM
There was another one similar to this. The Spurs are in their heads.

True. I imagine D'Antoni still sees Manu in his sleep. :lol

Texas_Ranger
04-21-2009, 02:17 PM
I miss the Suns in the playoofs.:(

Libri
04-21-2009, 02:18 PM
Rise And Fall of the Phoenix Suns Not quite the Roman Empire

MoSpur
04-21-2009, 02:19 PM
I'm so glad I don't have to see coach Mike anymore crying on the podium after each playoff loss.

samikeyp
04-21-2009, 02:23 PM
i'm so glad i don't have to see coach mike anymore crying on the podium after each playoff loss.

+1

FromWayDowntown
04-21-2009, 02:24 PM
As long as Dasani water bottles exist, Mike D'Antoni will continue to have a nemesis.

Texas_Ranger
04-21-2009, 02:32 PM
http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/jj352/TEXAS_RANGER_2009/failspurs.jpg

PDXSpursFan
04-21-2009, 02:57 PM
There was another one similar to this. The Spurs are in their heads.

The collapse of a contender in 2,500 words or less
By Valley of the Suns

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117851

Found a better one:

The collapse of a contender in 5 words or less
By PDXSpursFan

No D = No :lobt:

BillMc
04-21-2009, 03:06 PM
I'm so glad I don't have to see coach Mike anymore crying on the podium after each playoff loss.

Actually, i quite enjoyed watching him cry on the podium after every loss...

Ghazi
04-21-2009, 03:18 PM
if spurs destroyed suns the gasol trade destroyed the spurs

SAtown
04-21-2009, 03:18 PM
I'm so glad I don't have to see coach Mike anymore crying on the podium after each playoff loss.

Am I the only one that actually enjoyed that? :lol

in2deep
04-21-2009, 03:23 PM
I'm so glad I don't have to see coach Mike anymore crying on the podium after each playoff loss.

that was the best part. his broken voice and hitler mustache was hilarious

MoSpur
04-21-2009, 03:31 PM
I hated seeing his teeth. They scared me.

Budkin
04-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Boo hoo. We owned them.

Armando
04-21-2009, 04:12 PM
2007 feels like 30 years ago. The Spurs have done a great job of getting into thier heads. And the funny part is if they had won in 2007 D'Antoni is likely still coaching the team and Shaq is likely still in Miami.

JWest596
04-21-2009, 07:02 PM
Phoenix knocked the Kobe Lakers out of the first round two seasons in a row. They had the talent but they never played a lick of defense. Their Achilles Heel.

baseline bum
04-21-2009, 07:06 PM
I liked the Suns; it was like watching the old-school Spurs of the 80s (with about the same level of success).

Creation88
04-21-2009, 07:12 PM
this article can be summed up in one word: Spurs

Chief
04-21-2009, 07:18 PM
Don't forget what we did to the lakers in 2003, totally dismantled them and sent shaq packin to miami and robert horry to us, lol

lefty
04-21-2009, 07:20 PM
Huh, wait........


When did the Suns rise to begin with ?

mytespurs
04-21-2009, 07:28 PM
if spurs destroyed suns the gasol trade destroyed the spurs

How so? I'd say it destroyed many of hopes of the western conference contenders.

Loquacist
04-21-2009, 07:38 PM
I miss playing the Suns in the playoffs. Wish they had made it this year.

Biggems
04-21-2009, 08:46 PM
As long as Dasani water bottles exist, Mike D'Antoni will continue to have a nemesis.

I swear that press conference was one of my favorites of all time.....not only did the Suns get their asses kicked by the Spurs, but D'Antoni got his ass kicked by small bottled water.

Spursfan092120
04-21-2009, 08:50 PM
As long as Dasani water bottles exist, Mike D'Antoni will continue to have a nemesis.
That and pieces of paper..lol

UvNqnAH_okI

baseline bum
04-21-2009, 09:06 PM
Don't forget what we did to the lakers in 2003, totally dismantled them and sent shaq packin to miami and robert horry to us, lol

Detroit sent Shaq packing to Miami.

Sean Cagney
04-21-2009, 09:54 PM
They will be remembered only for their style of play, like the 90s Knicks. Nothing more

90's Knicks had the Bulls :lol, Suns had us. I could respect the 90's Knicks though because their D was great, very physical team who just happened to peak at the time the greatest player ever was playing. They had a shot to win when their Daddy MJ retired too, but lost in 7 to the Rockets! Suns had theirs in 06 but Amare was hurt and they lost to Dallas!

NRHector
04-21-2009, 10:03 PM
if spork killer reads this article, he's going to be under suicidal watch, can someone do a welfare check?:flag:

TampaDude
04-21-2009, 10:22 PM
I miss playing the Suns in the playoffs. Wish they had made it this year.

+1 The Playoffs just aren't the same without the Suns.