Current generation Hall of Famers

[scanry]

Who do you think among the current generation players will go down as Hall of Famers?

I would say the following players will be in the Hall

Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'neal
Kobe Bryant
Lebron James
D'Wade
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Dwight Howard
Kevin Garnett
Paul Pierce
Chauncey Billups
Steve Nash

[noob cake]

Dikembe Mutombo

[scanry]

Dikembe Mutombo

Love the guy, but no way is he a Hall of Famer!!!

[kamikazi_player]

Dikembe to the Hall of fame as well

Edit: damn beat me to it lol.

[Ghazi]

Manu

[monosylab1k]

Devin Harris
DeSagana Diop

[kamikazi_player]

Devin Harris
DeSagana Diop
:lol

[scanry]

Devin Harris
DeSagana Diop

Baron Davis
Steven Jackson
Jason Richardson

[noob cake]

Love the guy, but no way is he a Hall of Famer!!!

4-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1995, 1997, 1998, 2001
8-time NBA All-Star: 1992, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002
3-time All-NBA:
Second Team: 2001
Third Team: 1998, 2002
6-time All-Defensive:
First Team: 1997, 1998, 2001
Second Team: 1995, 1999, 2002
NBA All-Rookie First Team: 1992
2-time NBA regular-season leader, rebounding average: 2000 (14.1), 2001 (13.5)
4-time NBA regular-season leader, total rebounds: 1995 (1029), 1997 (929), 1999 (610), 2000 (1157)
NBA regular-season leader, offensive rebounds: 2001 (307)
2-time NBA regular-season leader, defensive rebounds: 1999 (418), 2000 (853)
3-time NBA regular-season leader, blocking average: 1994 (4.1), 1995 (3.9), 1996 (4.5)
5-time NBA regular-season leader, total blocks: 1994 (336), 1995 (321), 1996 (332), 1997 (264), 1998 (277)

what a noob

[gaKNOW!blee]

Devin Harris
DeSagana Diop


lol 38 points.

[Findog]

Baron Davis
Steven Jackson
Jason Richardson

Anybody who has ever suited up for the Milwaukee Bucks.

[scanry]

4-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1995, 1997, 1998, 2001
8-time NBA All-Star: 1992, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002
3-time All-NBA:
Second Team: 2001
Third Team: 1998, 2002
6-time All-Defensive:
First Team: 1997, 1998, 2001
Second Team: 1995, 1999, 2002
NBA All-Rookie First Team: 1992
2-time NBA regular-season leader, rebounding average: 2000 (14.1), 2001 (13.5)
4-time NBA regular-season leader, total rebounds: 1995 (1029), 1997 (929), 1999 (610), 2000 (1157)
NBA regular-season leader, offensive rebounds: 2001 (307)
2-time NBA regular-season leader, defensive rebounds: 1999 (418), 2000 (853)
3-time NBA regular-season leader, blocking average: 1994 (4.1), 1995 (3.9), 1996 (4.5)
5-time NBA regular-season leader, total blocks: 1994 (336), 1995 (321), 1996 (332), 1997 (264), 1998 (277)

what a noob

:rolleyes:rolleyes

Dennis Rodman?

[scanry]

Anybody who has ever suited up for the Milwaukee Bucks.

New Orleans Hornets 2007-2008

Jannero Fucking Pargo

[Ghazi]

I saw a question on another message board the other day about whether DIrk is a hall of famer, and a lot of people said "no" or "borderline".

I thought it was fucking blasphemy and chalked it up to basketball ignorance on behalf of the board.

All MVP's in NBA history have made the hall of fame though, so I imagine beloved Dirk is in 100%.

[noob cake]

Image problem much?

Was he a humanitarian like Deke?

[Allanon]

Wow, lot's of Hall of Famers in this generation.

[scanry]

I saw a question on another message board the other day about whether DIrk is a hall of famer, and a lot of people said "no" or "borderline".

I thought it was fucking blasphemy and chalked it up to basketball ignorance on behalf of the board.

All MVP's in NBA history have made the hall of fame though, so I imagine beloved Dirk is in 100%.

Dirk will be in the Hall period.

I think Steve Nash should be an exception. He's such a liability on defense.
BTW Dirk goes Kobe-esque against the Spurs.

[Chris Fall]

First ballot Hall of Fall.

[bdictjames]

Jason Kidd
Ben Wallace

[kamikazi_player]

Yao (cmon he's been to every all star game :D)
T-mac
Grant Hill

[exstatic]

Manu

Yes, since it is the basketball HOF and not the NBA HOF. He's a mortal lock. Check the entry for the late Drazen Petrovic.

[exstatic]

Yao (cmon he's been to every all star game :D)
T-mac
Grant Hill
Hill was on track, but the injuries robbed him of probably 5-6 more top seasons he needed to make it strictly as an NBA player.

[baseline bum]

You gotta think Rose and Durant are going to be good bets to get in too. No way Billups makes it if Bernard King and Dennis Johnson can't get in.

[adidas11]

What about Allen Iverson???

[adidas11]

Has there ever been a former MVP that hasn't made it to the basketball hall of fame?

[dirk4mvp]

Idk how guys like Chris Paul and Deron Williams are in the talk right now. Probably in the future, and their plays suggest that they will, but what have they done that gets them in so far? Williams in the 05 ncaa title game?

[ElNono]

First ballot Hall of Fall.

You mean Fall of Shame...

[ElNono]

What you guys think of guys like TQuit and Vince Carter? I don't think they should necessarily make it, but they've both been beasts at one point or another in the league.

[Strike]

What you guys think of guys like TQuit and Vince Carter? I don't think they should necessarily make it, but they've both been beasts at one point or another in the league.

Besides a few stats, what has either really accomplished?

[ElNono]

Besides a few stats, what has either really accomplished?

Well, I could ask the same about Deron Williams or CP3 that were in the original list...

[cherylsteele]

What about Allen Iverson???
I would say AI is pretty much a lock.

[Strike]

Well, I could ask the same about Deron Williams or CP3 that were in the original list...

Williams and Paul haven't put in the years that Carter and McGrady have. I don't think any of those 4 should be in a hall of fame discussion at this point.

[ElNono]

Williams and Paul haven't put in the years that Carter and McGrady have. I don't think any of those 4 should be in a hall of fame discussion at this point.

I agree with that...

[Xylus]

I think Steve Nash should be an exception. He's such a liability on defense.

You think a 2-time MVP shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame? Give me a fucking break.

[Strike]

You think a 2-time MVP shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame? Give me a fucking break.

Nash deserves a nod.

:vomit:

There. I feel better.

[Xylus]

Nash deserves a nod.

:vomit:

There. I feel better.

It's safe to give Suns players praise now, Strike. Lottery teams are supposed to be pitied, not hated.

[Strike]

It's safe to give Suns players praise now, Strike. Lottery teams are supposed to be pitied, not hated.

I've never liked Nash. But I respect the 2 MVP trophies and his career overall.

[Ghazi]

Dirk deserved those MVPs

[Strike]

Dirk deserved those MVPs

Ummmmm, no.

[baseline bum]

Idk how guys like Chris Paul and Deron Williams are in the talk right now. Probably in the future, and their plays suggest that they will, but what have they done that gets them in so far? Williams in the 05 ncaa title game?

Would you put money on either Paul or Williams to miss the HOF? I know I wouldn't.

[Strike]

Would you put money on either Paul or Williams to miss the HOF? I know I wouldn't.

Maybe so but currently they haven't accomplished enough. And yes I understand they're both young players. At their current pace and with a few broken records, awards and rings, easy pick. Just not yet.

[noob cake]

What you guys think of guys like TQuit and Vince Carter? I don't think they should necessarily make it, but they've both been beasts at one point or another in the league.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

Knee-Mac is pretty much a lock for HOF. He is after all one of the top 5 SG to play the game and once the best player in the league.

[Ghazi]

He is far from a hall of fame lock. FAR

[dirk4mvp]

Would you put money on either Paul or Williams to miss the HOF? I know I wouldn't.

No but all it takes is for one of them to come down wrong off a jump and it ends that discussion.

[Rogue]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

Knee-Mac is pretty much a lock for HOF. He is after all one of the top 5 SG to play the game and once the best player in the league.
he already is. www.blametracy.com (http://www.blametracy.com)

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

Knee-Mac is pretty much a lock for HOF. He is after all one of the top 5 SG to play the game and once the best player in the league.

on what planet was this?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Current NBA players who've earned their spots today:

Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Shaquille O'Neal
Steve Nash
Paul Pierce
Allen Iverson
Manu Ginobili (you can and I would make the argument that he's in right now)

A few current NBA players who are on a HOF pace:

Chris Paul
LeBron James
Dirk Nowitzki (very close)

[baseline bum]

No but all it takes is for one of them to come down wrong off a jump and it ends that discussion.

That's pretty much the only way though. It could happen, but if I had to put money one way or the other, I'd pick both of them making it and not think twice about it.

[baseline bum]

Current NBA players who've earned their spots today:

Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Shaquille O'Neal
Steve Nash
Paul Pierce
Allen Iverson
Manu Ginobili (you can and I would make the argument that he's in right now)

A few current NBA players who are on a HOF pace:

Chris Paul
LeBron James
Dirk Nowitzki (very close)

Dirk's easily there. The only thing really up for debate now is whether he'd go in on the first ballot (I think he would).

[baseline bum]

Forgot about Kidd. He's a mortal lock for the HOF.

[Rogue]

Current NBA players who've earned their spots today:

Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Shaquille O'Neal
Steve Nash
Paul Pierce
Allen Iverson
Manu Ginobili (you can and I would make the argument that he's in right now)

A few current NBA players who are on a HOF pace:

Chris Paul
LeBron James
Dirk Nowitzki (very close)
totally agree, those players you memtioned above all have shown the whole world that they deserve to be put into the HOF, we can't expect too much more on them though. While the 3 players you mentioned below the lockers of HOF still are increasing and approaching their primes, inarguably those 3 guys will definitely win a couple of championships before retiring, CP is playing on Hornets though. Nash and AI both are virgin to champion rings but their trophies of 2 regular season MVPs and 3 scoring champoins still are more than enough to arch them respectively into the HOF.

[baseline bum]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

Knee-Mac is pretty much a lock for HOF. He is after all one of the top 5 SG to play the game and once the best player in the league.

No way is he a lock. His numbers don't compare all that favorably to Bernard King's, and King never gets any love from the HOF. If McGrady's career continues on the tail-end of the Vince Carter arc, no way he makes it. I don't even think Carter makes it, even with some of the ridiculous playoff performances he has had.

[ginobili's bald spot]

First of all LeBron is a hall of famer already. T-back is a hall of famer it doesn't matter if we like him or not he's in. Same for Vince and AI. I'm not sure if he's been mentioned or not but Ray Allen will also make it. And Jason Jason Kidd is a sure thing. Those all need to be added to the list of locks. They aren't even up for debate.

[Mugen]

First of all LeBron is a hall of famer already. T-back is a hall of famer it doesn't matter if we like him or not he's in. Same for Vince and AI. I'm not sure if he's been mentioned or not but Ray Allen will also make it. And Jason Jason Kidd is a sure thing. Those all need to be added to the list of locks. They aren't even up for debate.

if Tback, vince, and AI make it into the hall, it cheapens the accomplishments of everybody that is already in it.

[ginobili's bald spot]

if Tback, vince, and AI make it into the hall, it cheapens the accomplishments of everybody that is already in it.

I'm not a fan of those 3 either but they're gonna make it. So Hall of fame, prepare to be cheapened.

[Lars]

So who is borderline

[21_Blessings]

F T-back is a hall of famer it doesn't matter if we like him or not he's in. Same for Vince and AI.

How is T-Mac a hall of famer? Because he's not. Not while Bernard King still isn't in.

Same with Vince. You could argue AI since he has a MVP, finals appearance and will end up pretty high on the all time scoring list.

[resistanze]

I don't see T-Mac or VC getting in, AI definitely.

[sonic21]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

Knee-Mac is pretty much a lock for HOF. He is after all one of the top 5 SG to play the game and once the best player in the league.

being the top scorer in the league doesn't make you the best player.
But winning a playoff serie is required.

[LnGrrrR]

I agree that TMac and Vince are borderline, Kidd is definitely in, as is Iverson.

Any chance Ben Wallace gets voted in? His offense was atrocious and his defense has suffered lately, but when he was in his prime he was a beast.

[Extra Stout]

Don't forget about the immortal Jerome James.

[baseline bum]

I agree that TMac and Vince are borderline, Kidd is definitely in, as is Iverson.

Any chance Ben Wallace gets voted in? His offense was atrocious and his defense has suffered lately, but when he was in his prime he was a beast.

I don't see Wallace in; especially if Rodman isn't there.

[sook]

As much as it will burn me for him quitting on us i think he will get in because anyone with more than 1 scoring title made it into the hall:bang

[Greg Oden]

As much as it will burn me for him quitting on us i think he will get in because anyone with more than 1 scoring title made it into the hall:bang

Hey since Amare is better than Dirk, and most people here think Dirk is a lock, does that make Amare a first ballot pick also?

[Sportstudi]

Hey since Amare is better than Dirk, and most people here think Dirk is a lock, does that make Amare a first ballot pick also?

Amare is better than Dirk? Did I miss something? Well, yes, he's better in overestimating himself. I remember the bullocks he said in the beginning of the season concerning the DPOY :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Greg Oden]

Amare is better than Dirk? Did I miss something? Well, yes, he's better in overestimating himself. I remember the bullocks he said in the beginning of the season concerning the DPOY :lmao:lmao:lmao
yes the guy I quoted is under the impression that Amare is a better basketball player than Dirk :lol

[JamStone]

First of all LeBron is a hall of famer already.

I firmly believe LeBron will be there in the future. But, to make things clear, you say he's a hall of famer already? Right now? If he had a career ending injury today and never played another game in the NBA, you think he's still a hall of famer based on his six seasons in the league?

[21_Blessings]

I firmly believe LeBron will be there in the future. But, to make things clear, you say he's a hall of famer already? Right now? If he had a career ending injury today and never played another game in the NBA, you think he's still a hall of famer based on his six seasons in the league?

Yeah the media would give him a pity vote. They love the guy.

[sook]

yes the guy I quoted is under the impression that Amare is a better basketball player than Dirk :lol

That really you Ghazi/Dirk? I implied he had a higher cieling due to his young age and the monster numbers he was putting up last year...

Would you really want to build around a pretty much Has-Been already, or a player for the future? Don't take me out of context.

[sook]

Oh and being a better basketball player doesn't mean you are getting into the hall. If player B makes it into the hall and player A is better, it doesn't mean shit. It is calculated based on accomplishments. We all know that Yao Ming is eons above Dirk but he hasn't accomplished nearly as much, so dirk gets his pass for the really good team they built around him. Anyways, we all know how his MVP turned out..

[sook]

Oh and Pierce making it into the HOF is a travesty, just my 2 cents.

[JamStone]

We all know that Yao Ming is eons above Dirk but he hasn't accomplished nearly as much

Who is we?

I think Dirk has always been a better player than Yao and still is.

[IronMexican]

Dirk is a better player than Yao. If you think otherwise, your a dumbass.

[sonic21]

. We all know that Yao Ming is eons above Dirk but he hasn't accomplished nearly as much, so dirk gets his pass for the really good team they built around him.

:nope

[dirk4mvp]

wow, sook says Amare is better than Dirk and now Yao of all players? Do expect anyone to take anything you say serious from now on after saying something like that?

[sook]

It was a satirical post. Grats people :D

[dirk4mvp]

also, what really good team has Dirk had around him that gives him a pass?

[sook]

wow, sook says Amare is better than Dirk and now Yao of all players? Do expect anyone to take anything you say serious from now on after saying something like that?

Sorry I had to warrant some flaming, its been quite some time!

(See above) :downspin::lol

[sonic21]

also, what really good team has Dirk had around him that gives him a pass?

diop and harris

[IronMexican]

Now sook is trying to cover it up.

[dirk4mvp]

Sorry I had to warrant some flaming, its been quite some time!

(See above) :downspin::lol

save it for after the playoffs brah :lol

[dirk4mvp]

diop and harris

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[sook]

Now sook is trying to cover it up.

Believe it or not, I am not a big fan of Yao Ming (understatement) i was actually banned from clutch the first time and realgm earlier this month for that same reason.

I think he is a great player, but he requires to stiff of a system to suit his needs. For instance, ANY team in the NBA can take him from 10-10 FGs to 2-5. You wouldn't like it if the other team picked and choosed exactly when to shut your whole defense down (fronting).

I think he is going to get traded, adelman's system uses quick agile and adept passing bigmen. Like Brad Miller and Divac. Gimme Marc Gasol + Oj Mayo for Ming any day of the week :hat

[scanry]

Believe it or not, I am not a big fan of Yao Ming (understatement) i was actually banned from clutch the first time and realgm earlier this month for that same reason.

I think he is a great player, but he requires to stiff of a system to suit his needs. For instance, ANY team in the NBA can take him from 10-10 FGs to 2-5. You wouldn't like it if the other team picked and choosed exactly when to shut your whole defense down (fronting).

I think he is going to get traded, adelman's system uses quick agile and adept passing bigmen. Like Brad Miller and Divac. Gimme Marc Gasol + Oj Mayo for Ming any day of the week :hat

I concur. Yao hasn't done much to warrant the great player status. How about carrying your team past the first round?

[sook]

I concur. Yao hasn't done much to warrant the great player status. How about carrying your team past the first round?
I agree, T-Mac got the bad rap every yr. If you look at game 7 vs Utah Yao got THOROUGHLY outplayed By Boozer, T-Mac had 28 points and 15 assists but he had to be the one crying in the post game.


So far Steve Francis, Tmac, JVG, and many other players have been traded/left, how long is it going to take for them to realize that isn't the problem?

[jdev82]

Love the guy, but no way is he a Hall of Famer!!!

you're an idiot. deke was a professional, an 8 time all star, 4 time DPOY, 2nd all time in blocked shots, and intimidated a generation of nba stars from attacking the basket. if he's not, no one is.

[sook]

you're an idiot. deke was a professional, an 8 time all star, 4 time DPOY, 2nd all time in blocked shots, and intimidated a generation of nba stars from attacking the basket. if he's not, no one is.

Seconded.

[Bob Lanier]

If Artis Gilmore isn't a Hall of Famer there is no justification for making Dikembe Mutombo one.

Alonzo Mourning and Ben Wallace were better players than Deke was, though not for as long, and they're borderline at best.