Robert Welch predictions from 1958 that came true...

[louie1674]

Two speeches made by Robert Welch at a JBS Council Dinner in 1958 and also in 1974. Its very relevant to what is going on today.
http://wimp.com/robertwelch



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[Marcus Bryant]

Fuck yeah!!!1 It's about time the John Birch Society showed up. Has the internets finally reached your nuke shelter?

[DarkReign]

I liked the old bastard. I want to live in the America he talks about.

[DarrinS]

That man is obviously a racist.

[FaithInOne]

What a crazy tin foul hat wearer of the 1950's.


Great video, thanks for sharing.

[ChumpDumper]

So Eisenhower really was an active agent of communism?

[braeden0613]

Regardless of how you feel about the guy, alot of his predictions are pretty accurate.

[balli]

I didn't watch that shit yet, but I'll take the opportunity to pimp a Dylan song.

"There's red stripes on the American flag. Did you know about Betsy Ross?" :lol

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[Winehole23]

I liked the old bastard. I want to live in the America he talks about.I think I know what you mean, but that America predates World War I.

Even if you could dial back the government and the constitution to some 19th century default (and you can't), there's no way you could ever dial back the people.

For example, the dramatic, anti-imperialistic note sounded in RW's speech would've been GOP boilerplate pre-WWII, but must seem otherworldly to today's postmodern Republican. Oddball at the least.

Admittedly, it was a little odd in its own time, too.



If RW were around today, I suspect he'd be treated even worse than he was in his own time. And I don't mean by the liberals.

[Nbadan]

...is that Ron Paul?

[Winehole23]

...is that Ron Paul?Very like, yes.

[DarkReign]

I think I know what you mean, but that America predates World War I.

Even if you could dial back the government and the constitution to some 19th century default (and you can't), there's no way you could ever dial back the people.

For example, the dramatic, anti-imperialistic note sounded in RW's speech would've been GOP boilerplate pre-WWII, but must seem otherworldly to today's postmodern Republican. Oddball at the least.

Admittedly, it was a little odd in its own time, too.

If RW were around today, I suspect he'd be treated even worse than he was in his own time. And I don't mean by the liberals.

Its odd how you always have a synopsis of the subject matter as it seems you just pull it from memory. My memory on the other hand, sucks. I could read this guy's autobiography 4x and have little insight on the man 3 months later.

My exposure to this cat is limited to this youtube video. For all I know, he owned slaves, beat his wife and ended up killing an entire family via arson.

But his ideas of government, while slightly extreme and isolationist, ring more true to me than the ideas of our current crop of corporate politicians, securing resource and influence on behalf of private industry the world around, using any means necessary to further the goals of the few at the expense of the many.

Moreover, he speaks to the banking "cabal" and our monetary system being exported out of the government's hands purposely.

The only thing we have in our time that is even remotely close to this guy is Ron Paul. Who, if left to his own devices, would be a fine leader (with some Democratic restraint in Congress, mind you). Unfortunately, his extremism attracts the strangest moths to his light. Alien abductees, state militia types, etc.

Its too bad his own party pushed him to the fringe and kept him there long enough for mold to grow on his persona. Republicans would be better served taking a hard look at Dr. Paul as a model of policy to follow, IMO. They'd win back every seat they lost in a hurry.

But thats too simple, I guess. Its amazing, the re-alignment of loyalties after two bitter wars. So much so that we'd trade our sovereignty to prevent war if necessary. Its pathetic really, truly pathetic that this direction we follow is someone's idea of Utopia.

[FaithInOne]

I will never forget the GOP goons laughing Ron Paul off the stage at the Rep. debates.

And they tell us we have two distinct parties in this Country.

[Winehole23]

Its odd how you always have a synopsis of the subject matter as it seems you just pull it from memory. Sometimes I'll cheat a little to shore up a weak spot, but I'm slightly familiar with the Birchers.

[angrydude]

I will never forget the GOP goons laughing Ron Paul off the stage at the Rep. debates.

And they tell us we have two distinct parties in this Country.


I'd like to believe it was only because of the national security issue, but something tells me it wasn't just that--at least for the "brains" of the GOP.

[Marcus Bryant]

Its odd how you always have a synopsis of the subject matter as it seems you just pull it from memory. My memory on the other hand, sucks. I could read this guy's autobiography 4x and have little insight on the man 3 months later.

My exposure to this cat is limited to this youtube video. For all I know, he owned slaves, beat his wife and ended up killing an entire family via arson.

But his ideas of government, while slightly extreme and isolationist, ring more true to me than the ideas of our current crop of corporate politicians, securing resource and influence on behalf of private industry the world around, using any means necessary to further the goals of the few at the expense of the many.

Moreover, he speaks to the banking "cabal" and our monetary system being exported out of the government's hands purposely.

The only thing we have in our time that is even remotely close to this guy is Ron Paul. Who, if left to his own devices, would be a fine leader (with some Democratic restraint in Congress, mind you). Unfortunately, his extremism attracts the strangest moths to his light. Alien abductees, state militia types, etc.

Its too bad his own party pushed him to the fringe and kept him there long enough for mold to grow on his persona. Republicans would be better served taking a hard look at Dr. Paul as a model of policy to follow, IMO. They'd win back every seat they lost in a hurry.

But thats too simple, I guess. Its amazing, the re-alignment of loyalties after two bitter wars. So much so that we'd trade our sovereignty to prevent war if necessary. Its pathetic really, truly pathetic that this direction we follow is someone's idea of Utopia.


The amusing thing is how during the primary campaign many "conservatives" regarded Paul as a "liberal" simply because of his view on Iraq. Sure, in the classical, old school sense of the term he is, indeed. It's even more amusing as for the longest time he was regarded as a conservative's conservative. What passes for conservatism today is nothing more than progressivism, that of TR and, dare I say, Woodrow.

Our campaigns are nothing more than about what is best for the grandeur of the state and, yes, for what is best for big business. On the competing side we have a party which is about using the state to make man free (yeah, that's worked before) and seems to assume that by working with big business to accomplish these goals is preferable. What's lost in our politics is the individual. The person who thinks his or her life is about more than supporting egoists of the highest order who demand your liberty to satisfy their own needs.

[Winehole23]

What passes for conservatism today is nothing more than progressivism, that of TR and, dare I say, Woodrow. Wilsonian idealism overtook conservatism, yes.