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sonic21
04-27-2009, 06:44 PM
Low-flying planes cause New York City scare (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30435336/?GT1=43001)

http://mobile.chicagotribune.com/inf/imgc;JSESSIONID=B7713D50D4FB5D889E6E.2126?dev=1664&url=http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2009-04/46535375.jpg
In this image taken with a cell phone, a Boeing 747 flies low over New York Harbor on Monday morning, followed by an F-16 chase plane.

NEW YORK - Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he is furious that the federal government flew a presidential Boeing 747 and a fighter jet near ground zero part of a government photo opportunity and training mission.

The incident on Monday caused a brief panic among workers, who said they were not notified in advance.

Bloomberg said the flyover so near the World Trade Center site showed "poor judgment" and was insensitive. He said he is furious that the New York Police Department and another city agency were notified last week, but did not tell him.

If he had known, Bloomberg said, he would have tried to stop it.
The Federal Aviation Administration and the Air Force say the flight was a government photo opportunity and training mission involving a presidential plane.

The White House staffer who organized the photo session apologized, but not before locals and an influential senator raised their voices.

Worried workers from several office buildings poured out onto the streets before they learned that the flights were harmless.

John Leitner, a floor trader at the New York Mercantile Exchange Building, said about 1,000 people "went into a total panic" and ran out of the building around 10 a.m. after seeing the planes whiz by their building, near the World Trade Center site.

"Apparently, nobody in the building was informed that this was going to happen," he said. "Everyone panicked, as you can certainly understand."

Later learned it was an exercise

He said the workers gathered along the Hudson River until a security officer with a bullhorn told them it was a planned exercise.

A reader who responded to msnbc.com's request for photos said: "Video? Picture? Who the heck had time for that?!?!?! We were all too busy getting the heck out of the building!

"A coworker, whose desk faces the window, all of a sudden had this huge jumbo jet in his face," wrote Jenny Espinosa. "This poor kid freaked. One woman who works in our building, and is pregnant, had a panic attack and almost collapsed."

"We remember all too well 911," he said. "There are so many people who work here who still suffer from PTS, and you schedule a photo-op/drill without letting people know? ... if it was 'nothing more than an photo-op/drill', then there are some heads which need to roll. Don't be surprised if these 1000's of people who were put through this trauma file a class action suit!"

FAA alerted, but not public

The Federal Aviation Administration said it had notified city law enforcement about the mission before it took place.

"The FAA and the presidential airlift group conducted an aerial photo mission" and training for crew members of the president's flying fleet, said Air Force spokeswoman Capt. Angela Webb. She declined to release any other information about the nature of the photos being taken.


'Authorized by the FAA'

She said the flight involved a VC-25, a Defense Department version of the 747 that is called Air Force One when the president is aboard, and an Air Force F-16 jet fighter. They flew over the upper New York Bay and Newark Bay between 10 a.m. and 10:30 a.m.

The NYPD said the flight "was authorized by the FAA for the vicinity of the Statue of Liberty, with directives to local authorities not to disclose information about it, but to direct all inquiries to the FAA."

Webb did not know why the public wasn't notified ahead of time.

chode_regulator
04-27-2009, 07:34 PM
Don't be surprised if these 1000's of people who were put through this trauma file a class action suit!"



Wow!!!
I hate idiots

td4mvp21
04-27-2009, 07:39 PM
I do think it was kind of insensitive...

I Love Me Some Me
04-28-2009, 08:35 AM
Imagine the outcry if the Bush White House had done this.

florige
04-28-2009, 08:38 AM
Imagine the outcry if the Bush White House had done this.



Please don't start.

jack sommerset
04-28-2009, 09:13 AM
Imagine the outcry if the Bush White House had done this.

:lol The Obama would claim Bush was flying the plane.

Wild Cobra
04-28-2009, 11:30 AM
Please don't start.
He simply pointed out the hypocrisy. That's enough I think, and true.

IceColdBrewski
04-28-2009, 11:31 AM
Jn0tMMYEkQU

BlackSwordsMan
04-28-2009, 11:36 AM
Jn0tMMYEkQU

that is some fucked up shit

JudynTX
04-28-2009, 11:38 AM
Damn!

clambake
04-28-2009, 11:44 AM
when Ronald Reagan died, air force one flew directly above my house....at less than 1200 ft. should i file suit?

BlackSwordsMan
04-28-2009, 11:48 AM
when a 747 slams into your faggy little dallas shopping malls, maybe

clambake
04-28-2009, 11:53 AM
when a 747 slams into your faggy little dallas shopping malls, maybe

i don't live in dallas......or own any of their faggy little shopping malls.

Viva Las Espuelas
04-28-2009, 12:01 PM
when Ronald Reagan died, air force one flew directly above my house....at less than 1200 ft. should i file suit?

do you live in a city that was attacked by airplanes and killed 3000+ people less than 10 years ago?

clambake
04-28-2009, 12:07 PM
do you live in a city that was attacked by airplanes and killed 3000+ people less than 10 years ago?

no.

so what.

we killed 100K innocent iraqi's to get even, so let it go.

Viva Las Espuelas
04-28-2009, 12:11 PM
no.

so what.

we killed 100K innocent iraqi's to get even, so let it go.:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

so would you go and host an orientation at Viking Ovens for a local synagogue?

same point here, if you aren't that dense.

clambake
04-28-2009, 12:16 PM
some people will always panic and do desperate things.

some people will run to their defense to support their panic and desperation, without questioning reality.




you know where i'm going with this?

chode_regulator
04-28-2009, 01:03 PM
This is my favorite one

OMG its a hijacking I just know it

:lmao

-TPjJ4PXXMc

IceColdBrewski
04-28-2009, 01:24 PM
This is my favorite one

OMG its a hijacking I just know it

:lmao


At the very least, that thought would've definitely crossed your mind.

EricB
04-28-2009, 01:34 PM
So New Yorkers had no right in being scared and pissed off by this?

Did everyone forget 9/11?

Just curious....

to21
04-28-2009, 01:44 PM
no.

so what.

we killed 100K innocent iraqi's to get even, so let it go.Didn't you hear? Even the camels are guilty in the middle east.

chode_regulator
04-28-2009, 05:57 PM
At the very least, that thought would've definitely crossed your mind.

Well lets look at the facts. A plane that most Americans should recognize as Air Force One is flying around at low altitudes wiht an American fighter escorting it. Also flying in circles and not targeting anything. And people were running around even though it was flying overhead and away. Why would you not stay where you were and see where it went and then run the direction opposite of where it crashed?

And no I don't think I owuld have freaked.

Wild Cobra
04-28-2009, 06:05 PM
Well lets look at the facts. A plane that most Americans should recognize as Air Force One is flying around at low altitudes wiht an American fighter escorting it. Also flying in circles and not targeting anything. And people were running around even though it was flying overhead and away. Why would you not stay where you were and see where it went and then run the direction opposite of where it crashed?

And no I don't think I owuld have freaked.
I get it. Since hindsight is 20/20, and everyone has 20/20 vision, we could all see the plane markings from that distance.

LOL.....

Bukefal
04-28-2009, 06:19 PM
Jn0tMMYEkQU

Damn, the panic. I can understand it a bit, but its also a bit overreacted. They shouldnt have done this, considering people would react like this.

Viva Las Espuelas
04-28-2009, 06:30 PM
Well lets look at the facts. A plane that most Americans should recognize as Air Force One is flying around at low altitudes wiht an American fighter escorting it. Also flying in circles and not targeting anything. And people were running around even though it was flying overhead and away. Why would you not stay where you were and see where it went and then run the direction opposite of where it crashed?

And no I don't think I owuld have freaked.
silly them. clearly "terrorist coming in to kill you" was plastered along the other planes. those silly over reacting yankees. :rolleyes

BlackSwordsMan
04-28-2009, 06:48 PM
wtf was the white house thinking? what a bunch of fucking idiots

IceColdBrewski
04-28-2009, 06:57 PM
Well lets look at the facts. A plane that most Americans should recognize as Air Force One is flying around at low altitudes wiht an American fighter escorting it. Also flying in circles and not targeting anything.

Why don't you consider the facts as you would have known them at the time. You've been told to evacuate because a massive jumbo jet is circling NYC with a fighter jet on its ass.

Do you think:

A) "Must be Air Force One",
or
B) "Oh shit, here we go again."

???

chode_regulator
04-28-2009, 08:40 PM
Obviously no one here realzes that i'm omniscient

let me put this clearly......in my opinion people over reacted. that's all it is. an opinion. its not fact, im not on the news declaring it fact.
get over it. no one on here is going to change my mind.
maybe some of you should look up the definition of opinion

EDIT:Almost forgot, yes if the plane was flying at 1000 ft I would most definitely recognize it as AF1.

BlackSwordsMan
04-28-2009, 09:03 PM
no way in hell AF1 can be high jacked because of the killer robot zombie jesus' protecting it
everyone knows that

chode_regulator
04-28-2009, 10:19 PM
no way in hell AF1 can be high jacked because of the killer robot zombie jesus' protecting it
everyone knows that

I thought it was because Harrison Ford was always on board

BlackSwordsMan
04-28-2009, 10:35 PM
samuel l jackson

BlackSwordsMan
04-28-2009, 10:35 PM
Im tired of all these motherfucking terorrists on this motherfucking plane

to21
04-29-2009, 12:46 PM
Now they're saying the whole debacle cost taxpayers almost 300k to do the photo op.

Wild Cobra
04-29-2009, 12:50 PM
Now they're saying the whole debacle cost taxpayers almost 300k to do the photo op.
I wonder how much it cost the businesses in productivity, with people fleeing to get out of buildings?

Thunder Dan
04-29-2009, 03:54 PM
if you sue for this, arn't you basically just suing yourself since you are trying to get money from the government that just gets money from you..