Nate McMillan blows whistle on officials

[tlongII]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/04/mcmillan_blows_whistle_on_offi.html

TUALATIN -- The Trail Blazers broadcasters have harped on it. Fans continually bring it up. Finally on Monday, coach Nate McMillan addressed what has become a major talking point in Portland's first-round series against the Houston Rockets:
Officiating.

Despite the possibility of a fine from NBA executive Stu Jackson, who among other duties oversees officiating, McMillan without prompting criticized the officiating in the series. In particular, McMillan focused on the two games in Houston, both won by the Rockets.

"I don't want Stu to be calling me or anything like that, but if you look at the stat sheet and you look at the way the calls have gone the last couple games, it's not consistent," McMillan said.

McMillan is particularly unhappy with the fouls called against his centers, Joel Przybilla and Greg Oden, who have the already-challenging task of trying to contain Yao Ming, the Rockets' 7-foot-6 All-Star center.

In the Rockets' 86-83 win Friday night, Oden had five fouls in 21 minutes. Przybilla was called for four fouls and played 20 minutes.

Then, in Sunday's 89-88 Houston victory, Oden picked up five fouls in 10 minutes, several coming when Yao did not have the ball and Oden was fighting to keep him from getting deep post position. Przybilla had four fouls and played 27 minutes.

Yao, meanwhile, played 36 minutes and had three fouls Friday, and went almost 44 minutes while picking up one foul Sunday.

Brandon Roy, the Blazers' All-Star guard, rarely fouls out of games, but he did Friday. Meanwhile, Ron Artest and Shane Battier, the Rockets' stellar defenders who split the duty of guarding Roy, have stayed out of foul trouble, picking up a total of five fouls in the two games in Houston.

"Our guys, Greg and Joel, are getting called for touch fouls against Yao, and Artest and Battier are riding Brandon Roy every time he runs or he penetrates to the basket," McMillan said. "I'm just saying that it needs to be called both ways."

For the series, the Blazers have been called for 101 fouls, Houston 83. Portland has shot 79 free throws to Houston's 106.

Officiating was a major topic for the Rockets after they lost Game 2 in Portland as Houston coach Rick Adelman complained Thursday that the Blazers had been allowed to manhandle Yao.

"In the first six minutes, they must have called seven or eight fouls on both teams," Adelman told reporters. "Hand-checking, everything else. Then it was like, 'Let's don't call anything else the rest of the game.' They literally put their hands on him from outside the free-throw line all the way down."

McMillan said he was well aware that Adelman had used the media to get this point across.

"No doubt, no doubt," McMillan said. "He's talked about that, (then) our guys have been whistled for those calls. What I'm saying is, if you're going to call it on one end, then call it on both ends."

On Sunday, the Houston Chronicle's Richard Justice wrote a column in which he reflected Adelman's contention that the Blazers were manhandling Yao, writing, "When did basketball become mixed martial arts?"

McMillan said the Blazers have sent tapes of the games and their complaints to the NBA. Among the complaints is that Portland was called for 18 more fouls -- 52 to 34 -- than the Rockets were in Houston, resulting in a free throw advantage for Houston.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank said the league doesn't comment on specific calls, but that teams frequently send disputed plays to the league for review throughout the season, a process made easier with a new online system that allows teams to upload the videos.

In Friday's game, only two Portland players had free throw attempts, and Sunday only three Blazers shot free throws.

"They're playing just as aggressive, just as physical (as we are), and you look at their stats, and those guys, they have one or two fouls, "McMillan said. "The free throw line, there's a huge difference there. So it's something we have to address."

[stretch]

Is Yao getting away with mass amounts of moving screens yet again?

[Lars]

Apparently Nate thinks number of fouls is a function of time on court and not how many fouls commited.

[tlongII]

Apparently Nate thinks number of fouls is a function of time on court and not how many fouls commited.

No. That was Adelman after game 2.

[KSeal]

What poor sports the Blazers are, just man up and play, stop using excuses.

[kamikazi_player]

Greg Oden deserves some of those fouls imo.

[resistanze]

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

[kamikazi_player]

someone get a picture of a baby crying for Tlong.

[Obstructed_View]

:lmao at anyone comparing the defensive skills of Greg Oden and Vanilla Gorilla to Ron Artest and Shane Battier.

[The Franchise]

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

[JoeTait75]

lol McMillan pissed because Yao is finally getting some of the calls he deserves. Oden is a hack-master. He needs to slim down. He looks fat and slow compared to the year he spent at tOSU.

[tlongII]

I decided to figure out the discrepancy of fouls compared to the rest of the playoff series.


+/- fouls (Through four games)
Detroit -32 (Big number, but understandably against LeBron)
Portland -18
San Antonio -11
LA Lakers -6
Miami -4
Boston -3
New Orleans -1
Philadelphia 0
Orlando 0
Denver +1
Chicago +3
Atlanta +4
Utah +6
Dallas +11
Houston +18
Cleveland +32


Total fouls (Through four games)
Portland 101
LA Lakers 101
New Orleans 101
Denver 100
Detroit 95
Utah 95
Boston 93
Chicago 90
Orlando 89
Philadelphia 89
San Antonio 86
Miami 85
Houston 83
Atlanta 81
Dallas 75
Cleveland 63


Complete BULLSHIT!

[JamStone]

Portland is a jump-shooting team. That's why there's a foul discrepancy like that. LaMarcus Aldridge is a jump shooting power forward. Their centers don't shoot the ball. And, Brandon Roy is the only guy that consistently attacks the basket. And, Roy has gone to the line 34 times, more than any Rockets player. Blake, Fernandez, Outlaw, Batum, Frye... they're all jump shooters first. Houston doesn't have great slashers, but their players will attack the basket. Brooks, Artest, Lowry will attack the rim. Scola and Landry attack the offensive glass and unlike a guy like Przybilla, they'll go back up with a shot.

If you understand the free throw and foul discrepancy between the Pistons and the Cavaliers, it's a similar thing with Houston and Portland. Portland stays shooting jump shots. The Rockets might shoot jumpers too, but they also attack the basket with much more frequency than the Blazers do.

And, back to topic, when it comes to criticizing how the game is being officiated, in all seriousness, the Blazers could be called for a foul almost every possession down because Przybilla and Oden have two forearms in Yao's back almost all the time.

[Morg1411]

I decided to figure out the discrepancy of fouls compared to the rest of the playoff series.


+/- fouls (Through four games)
Detroit -32 (Big number, but understandably against LeBron)
Portland -18
San Antonio -11
LA Lakers -6
Miami -4
Boston -3
New Orleans -1
Philadelphia 0
Orlando 0
Denver +1
Chicago +3
Atlanta +4
Utah +6
Dallas +11
Houston +18
Cleveland +32


Total fouls (Through four games)
Portland 101
LA Lakers 101
New Orleans 101
Denver 100
Detroit 95
Utah 95
Boston 93
Chicago 90
Orlando 89
Philadelphia 89
San Antonio 86
Miami 85
Houston 83
Atlanta 81
Dallas 75
Cleveland 63


Complete BULLSHIT!



Maybe if Portland played better they wouldn't get called for so many fouls.

Seriously, grow some nuts.

[Girasuck]

I'm a little surprised McMillan would take the "Phil Jackson whining, crying, baby" route. He's got a ways to go before he passes Adelman as the biggest whining baby coach in the league though.

[Obstructed_View]

Maybe if Portland fouled less they'd get called for fewer fouls. Greg Oden is the biggest foul machine in the league, and has been throughout the season.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Is Yao getting away with mass amounts of moving screens yet again?

What big man doesn't these days? Big Baby looks like a damn fullback clearing out space for Ray Allen in the Bulls/Celts series.

[ElNono]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/49/3171662315_1bc137eef1_o.jpg

[Girasuck]

How is the fishing in Salt Lake?

Awesome. I highly recommend Strawberry Reservoir, although it's technically not in Salt Lake. Only about an hour drive from SLC. Another hot spot right now is Hyrum Reservoir. Some of the best bluegill and bass fishing in the state.

[Indazone]

OMG I think that was pee your pants worthy! :lmao

[robbie380]

I decided to figure out the discrepancy of fouls compared to the rest of the playoff series.


+/- fouls (Through four games)
Detroit -32 (Big number, but understandably against LeBron)
Portland -18
San Antonio -11
LA Lakers -6
Miami -4
Boston -3
New Orleans -1
Philadelphia 0
Orlando 0
Denver +1
Chicago +3
Atlanta +4
Utah +6
Dallas +11
Houston +18
Cleveland +32


Total fouls (Through four games)
Portland 101
LA Lakers 101
New Orleans 101
Denver 100
Detroit 95
Utah 95
Boston 93
Chicago 90
Orlando 89
Philadelphia 89
San Antonio 86
Miami 85
Houston 83
Atlanta 81
Dallas 75
Cleveland 63


Complete BULLSHIT!

36 fouls from oden and priscilla.....probably should have been more

[DAF86]

I decided to figure out the discrepancy of fouls compared to the rest of the playoff series.


+/- fouls (Through four games)
Detroit -32 (Big number, but understandably against LeBron)
Portland -18
San Antonio -11
LA Lakers -6
Miami -4
Boston -3
New Orleans -1
Philadelphia 0
Orlando 0
Denver +1
Chicago +3
Atlanta +4
Utah +6
Dallas +11
Houston +18
Cleveland +32


Total fouls (Through four games)
Portland 101
LA Lakers 101
New Orleans 101
Denver 100
Detroit 95
Utah 95
Boston 93
Chicago 90
Orlando 89
Philadelphia 89
San Antonio 86
Miami 85
Houston 83
Atlanta 81
Dallas 75
Cleveland 63


Complete BULLSHIT!

You need to remember that Portland in game 3 and 4 comitted a lot of intentional fouls at the end of games.

[coldsweat]

i don't think tlongii understands the concept of variance. you have to explain it to him in baby terms: the number of fouls each team commits depends on style of play.

what an idiot.

[Mel_13]

Despite playing only 21.5 mpg in the regular season, Greg Oden led the NBA in fouls per game. This conspiracy against poor Portland has been going on all season.

Or Oden commits a lot of fouls.

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Fouls.jsp?league=00&season=22008&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=N&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=2&splitDD=All%20Teams

[sook]

Portland is a jump-shooting team. That's why there's a foul discrepancy like that. LaMarcus Aldridge is a jump shooting power forward. Their centers don't shoot the ball. And, Brandon Roy is the only guy that consistently attacks the basket. And, Roy has gone to the line 34 times, more than any Rockets player. Blake, Fernandez, Outlaw, Batum, Frye... they're all jump shooters first. Houston doesn't have great slashers, but their players will attack the basket. Brooks, Artest, Lowry will attack the rim. Scola and Landry attack the offensive glass and unlike a guy like Przybilla, they'll go back up with a shot.

If you understand the free throw and foul discrepancy between the Pistons and the Cavaliers, it's a similar thing with Houston and Portland. Portland stays shooting jump shots. The Rockets might shoot jumpers too, but they also attack the basket with much more frequency than the Blazers do.

And, back to topic, when it comes to criticizing how the game is being officiated, in all seriousness, the Blazers could be called for a foul almost every possession down because Przybilla and Oden have two forearms in Yao's back almost all the time.

This post brought tears to my eyes....such truth! :toast

[tlongII]

Portland is a jump-shooting team. That's why there's a foul discrepancy like that. LaMarcus Aldridge is a jump shooting power forward. Their centers don't shoot the ball. And, Brandon Roy is the only guy that consistently attacks the basket. And, Roy has gone to the line 34 times, more than any Rockets player. Blake, Fernandez, Outlaw, Batum, Frye... they're all jump shooters first. Houston doesn't have great slashers, but their players will attack the basket. Brooks, Artest, Lowry will attack the rim. Scola and Landry attack the offensive glass and unlike a guy like Przybilla, they'll go back up with a shot.

If you understand the free throw and foul discrepancy between the Pistons and the Cavaliers, it's a similar thing with Houston and Portland. Portland stays shooting jump shots. The Rockets might shoot jumpers too, but they also attack the basket with much more frequency than the Blazers do.

And, back to topic, when it comes to criticizing how the game is being officiated, in all seriousness, the Blazers could be called for a foul almost every possession down because Przybilla and Oden have two forearms in Yao's back almost all the time.

That's a crock of shit. It doesn't even begin to address why we've been called for more fouls than any other team in the playoffs.

[tlongII]

And you dumbshits that don't watch the games obviously haven't seen that Oden has been getting SCREWED ALL YEAR LONG! It's ridiculous to see the inconsistency that he has to put up with. The refs don't call shit when he gets butchered and he is ALWAYS whistled when he barely touches somebody!

[BUMP]

the NBA obviously wants Houston to advance so badly (a team that hasn't made the 2nd round in 12 years) that they'd go out of their way to fix this series [/sarcasm]

[Mel_13]

And you dumbshits that don't watch the games obviously haven't seen that Oden has been getting SCREWED ALL YEAR LONG! It's ridiculous to see the inconsistency that he has to put up with. The refs don't call shit when he gets butchered and he is ALWAYS whistled when he barely touches somebody!


Since you've posted in the past about being a Blazer fan since the 70's, that means that this sort of rambling can't be attributed to the poster being a whining 12-year old.

It's sad that a mature individual like yourself could actually believe that dozens of officiating crews over the course of entire NBA season have been treating this one player so unfairly.

It is really much likely that a young player with only one season of experience beyond high school will commit more fouls than he will as he gains NBA experience.

More fouls are called on Greg Oden because he commits more fouls.

See Occam's Razor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

[Morg1411]

Since you've posted in the past about being a Blazer fan since the 70's, that means that this sort of rambling can't be attributed to the poster being a whining 12-year old.

It's sad that a mature individual like yourself could actually believe that dozens of officiating crews over the course of entire NBA season have been treating this one player so unfairly.

It is really much likely that a young player with only one season of experience beyond high school will commit more fouls than he will as he gains NBA experience.

More fouls are called on Greg Oden because he commits more fouls.

See Occam's Razor




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor


:toast

As I also stated before: If the Blazers play better, they'll have fewer fouls. Pretty simple math.

[baseline bum]

Nate McMillan blows ...

:tu I agree!

[it's me]

Since you've posted in the past about being a Blazer fan since the 70's, that means that this sort of rambling can't be attributed to the poster being a whining 12-year old.

It's sad that a mature individual like yourself could actually believe that dozens of officiating crews over the course of entire NBA season have been treating this one player so unfairly.

It is really much likely that a young player with only one season of experience beyond high school will commit more fouls than he will as he gains NBA experience.

More fouls are called on Greg Oden because he commits more fouls.

See Occam's Razor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

I call it Ownage :lmao @ 40 years old baby Portland fan.

[sook]

Since you've posted in the past about being a Blazer fan since the 70's, that means that this sort of rambling can't be attributed to the poster being a whining 12-year old.

It's sad that a mature individual like yourself could actually believe that dozens of officiating crews over the course of entire NBA season have been treating this one player so unfairly.

It is really much likely that a young player with only one season of experience beyond high school will commit more fouls than he will as he gains NBA experience.

More fouls are called on Greg Oden because he commits more fouls.

See Occam's Razor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
irrefutable.

[Lars]

You can't even cite any specific examples of shit that isn't called that should be, only that there is a huge disparity. Seriously, show me some video or a play that should have been called but wasn't or any sort of double standard. All I hear is "whaa whaa Artest is too physical with Roy, they grab on his jersey" I can cite atleast ten specifc bullshit/blown calls from game 2, which was handed to the Blazers to avoid a boring sweep.

You are completely ignoring the style of play (penetration vs. jump shooting), the intenional fouls at the end of the game and the aggresive fronting defense on Yao. Take your losses like a man. Your guys were outplayed this series.

The only missed calls Ive seen is the Battier falling down (traveling) with the ball, which could of been game changing, but that is nothing compared to Blake throwing the ball straight out of bounds when Rudy fell to the ground with no contact in game 2.

Go read Blazersedge, half of your own fans even admit the officiating isnt what caused the losses.

[Indazone]

lol ttlong butthurt over Portland's foul disparity? Rocketsfans should be pissed off at the noncalls of the refs on Yao.

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/ty/k/p/2009-04-25/1240638467_ahgXnK.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090422/capt.554e59b34cf7477385d453f18df17e6a.rockets_trai l_blazers_basketball_ordr110.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090427/capt.51810213272a49588b9153a8e3dd6ffd.trailblazers _rockets_basketball_htr104.jpg

just shutup and man up. lol

[Lars]

Rivers, Nate and Rick all fined 25k for complaining lol.

[Roxsfan]

fuck portland and their fake ass team. First its tlong and the natl media stating the blzers will roll on the rox and some even saying sweep---ie Tlong. Now, down 1-3, the bitch ass FailGayzers have to complain about officiating.:lmao The refs gave you a helping hand in game 2. Were it not for that, Rockets would have swept Portland.

Welcome to hell..............:lmao

Since you can't come up with a list, I will back up my game 2 officiating comments with this list of BS calls otherwise known as "the order" given by Stern after he witnessed a colossal ass whooping in game one after Portland threw a parade for just making the playoffs.........:lmao

Missed/Blown calls I saw:
1.)The loose ball foul on Aaron Brooks when Blake threw a football style block on him as he scrambled for the ball in the fourth
2.)The star treatment foul on Shane when he had a clean block on Roy in the final seconds
3.)The call on Lowry when Rudy fell over and Blake through the ball straight out of bounds in the final seconds of the game
4.)No technical on Oden after shoving Yao
5.)The play where the ball was thrown into Yao and Oden jumped over his back and knocked it away
6.)The missed goaltending call on a Wafer breakaway drive.
7.)The foul by Oden that ended Dekes career which was called on Deke.
8.)The loose ball foul on Yao when Joel flopped to the ground.
9.) A blocking foul (star treatment) on Yao when Roy drove into him, initiated all the contact, then got blocked.
10.) Foul on Shane after Roy misses a jump shot and just falls to the ground.

[Artest93]

Didn't think Adelman was as bad as Mcmillan

[Mad_Hatter]

lol ttlong butthurt over Portland's foul disparity? Rocketsfans should be pissed off at the noncalls of the refs on Yao.
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090422/capt.554e59b34cf7477385d453f18df17e6a.rockets_trai l_blazers_basketball_ordr110.jpg

just shutup and man up. lol

damn aldridge is toned.
must be all that fouling.


funny how every fan of other teams are saying portland has no right to complain.

[Lars]

fuck portland and their fake ass team. First its tlong and the natl media stating the blzers will roll on the rox and some even saying sweep---ie Tlong. Now, down 1-3, the bitch ass FailGayzers have to complain about officiating.:lmao The refs gave you a helping hand in game 2. Were it not for that, Rockets would have swept Portland.

Welcome to hell..............:lmao

Since you can't come up with a list, I will back up my game 2 officiating comments with this list of BS calls otherwise known as "the order" given by Stern after he witnessed a colossal ass whooping in game one after Portland threw a parade for just making the playoffs.........:lmao

Missed/Blown calls I saw:
1.)The loose ball foul on Aaron Brooks when Blake threw a football style block on him as he scrambled for the ball in the fourth
2.)The star treatment foul on Shane when he had a clean block on Roy in the final seconds
3.)The call on Lowry when Rudy fell over and Blake through the ball straight out of bounds in the final seconds of the game
4.)No technical on Oden after shoving Yao
5.)The play where the ball was thrown into Yao and Oden jumped over his back and knocked it away
6.)The missed goaltending call on a Wafer breakaway drive.
7.)The foul by Oden that ended Dekes career which was called on Deke.
8.)The loose ball foul on Yao when Joel flopped to the ground.
9.) A blocking foul (star treatment) on Yao when Roy drove into him, initiated all the contact, then got blocked.
10.) Foul on Shane after Roy misses a jump shot and just falls to the ground.

Hey fucker, I made that list!

[Roxsfan]

Hey fucker, I made that list!

Hey asshole, I never said I authored that list, I copied your every word from clutchfans ass wipe.......even up top where it says Missed/Blown calls I saw:
I copied that too..............in the paragraph above that, I said I provide you with this list, NOT here is my list.:rolleyes

btw, please point out where I said that was MY list. That's what I thought ass munch.

it's a damned good list now shut the fuck up Larsv8:toast

[wireonfire]

Maybe if Portland fouled less they'd get called for fewer fouls. Greg Oden is the biggest foul machine in the league, and has been throughout the season.

Yeah, it is not like Yao needs to defend Oden and Pryzibilla.

[PDXSpursFan]

Yes Oden and Przybilla foul on Yao and get called. But Yao travels everytime that he does a post move and never get called.

[sook]

you know what else i noticed? Artest drives to the hoop as much as anyone, because he is so physical, how many FTs has he gotten? He got interviewed today and he said "I get hacked all the time and if they don't call it you need to hustle back and stop complaining." ROY GETS FTS EVERY TIME HE DRIVES.

Please tlong, i haven't seen such a sore loser...ever. Its sad that your in your 40s.

[sook]

does portland ever design plays for their bigs inside?

Oden and Pryzbilla, how many times have i seen that shoot it over Yao?

Aldridge? I have YET to see him drive, all he does is shoot jumpers.

Outlaw...wtf? THIS GUY HAS 0 POST UP GAME. HE COULDN'T EVEN DRIVE IT IN ON LOWRY :lol

[sook]

i guess i better go ahead and pull my strip out for tlong...

http://www.sportsgameblogs.com/i/game5story.jpg

[Kai]

Didn't think Adelman was as bad as Mcmillan

They wouldn't have fined him if Nate didn't come out and say what he said. But if you fine one, you have to fine the other.

[Lars]

Missed/Blown calls I saw:
:ihit

[resistanze]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/49/3171662315_1bc137eef1_o.jpg

[LnGrrrR]

Ray Allen fouled out tonight... it's spreading like swine flu! :D

[Mel_13]

Will this persecution of Greg Oden never end? In a game where the Rockets were called for 24 fouls and the Blazers were only called for 12, somehow Greg Oden managed to accumulate 4 fouls in 14 minutes. Only one other Blazer had more than one foul. Shocking..............

[La Peace]

funniest comic strip....evar.

:toast