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redskinfan
04-28-2009, 09:44 PM
George "freakin" Hill!!!! he better see time in 2nd half but knowing POP!

timvp
04-28-2009, 09:47 PM
Hill's energy kept this from being a blowout.

45 bank shot
04-28-2009, 09:48 PM
hill ftw

Thomas82
04-28-2009, 09:48 PM
Hill's energy kept this from being a blowout.

I'll cosign for you on that one.

onarollbaby
04-28-2009, 09:50 PM
I'm just following the scores on espn.com, why is Gooden not yet fielded? Is he dressed up to play tonight?

Capt Bringdown
04-28-2009, 09:51 PM
The magnitude of the decision to bench Hill and go with Mason as backup PG grows bigger...

What was Pop thinking? Simply awful coaching.

VaSpursFan
04-28-2009, 09:51 PM
Hill's energy kept this from being a blowout.

that dunk got the crowd going and seemed to amp him up even more. then he hits that big 3...hopefully we will see more of hill in the second half and for fucks sake, put gooden in the freaking game.

TampaDude
04-28-2009, 09:51 PM
hill's energy kept this from being a blowout.

+1

BlackSwordsMan
04-28-2009, 09:52 PM
he will give finley and bonner another chance and throw in hill with the last 2 mins

Thomas82
04-28-2009, 09:54 PM
I'm just following the scores on espn.com, why is Gooden not yet fielded? Is he dressed up to play tonight?


Is he in the doghouse?

redskinfan
04-28-2009, 09:54 PM
Imagine if Hill had not been benched the past 2 months??? Bonner does not need anymore time on floor either..

holcs50
04-28-2009, 09:59 PM
Hell yea GH. like most of us have been saying since half way through the year...PLAY HIM.

but i hate to say it, spurs just aren't that good. I mean if we really look at the team top to bottom and how each player is playing right now...just not that good at all. We gotta get some guys who can actually help in the playoffs unlike these scrubs....finley,MASON,boner, kt, yea well just the whole bench.

poop
04-28-2009, 10:00 PM
The magnitude of the decision to bench Hill and go with Mason as backup PG grows bigger...

What was Pop thinking? Simply awful coaching.

this.

poop
04-28-2009, 10:00 PM
its sad when fans and forumers know better than the fucking coach...

nkdlunch
04-28-2009, 10:01 PM
The magnitude of the decision to bench Hill and go with Mason as backup PG grows bigger...

What was Pop thinking? Simply awful coaching.

dude HIll is not playing backup PG. he is not good yet at backup pg


on the other hand I agree Pop should have given him minutes starting in game 1

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-28-2009, 10:07 PM
I'm just following the scores on espn.com, why is Gooden not yet fielded? Is he dressed up to play tonight?

Pop's gotta have a scapegoat for this first round exit.

They already hinted at Bowen being unhappy today in Buck's article. Gooden will be the other scapegoat, 'just looking for a contract' or some BS.

And yet somehow the colossal wastes of space that are Finley and Bonner will still be back next year. Fuck Pop.

Rogue
04-28-2009, 10:25 PM
the series is still not over but you've already started blaming your honorable Pop who has dozens of badges on his chest...

Mal
04-28-2009, 10:57 PM
He have no one to play with. Everybody that apears in game sucks.

Mason was suppose to help, but playoffs were too much for him. Simply roles sucks. Pop can`t do anything with this

Obstructed_View
04-28-2009, 11:05 PM
The lead story in Dallas sports after game 1 was how stupid Spurs fans are for bad-mouthing Pop. The two main issues were Bowen and Hill. How stupid are we now? Again, Pop's decisions against Dallas were just too much to overcome. I'm proud of the players that managed to mentally get past the loss of Manu, but unfortunately there were only four of those guys on the squad.

45 bank shot
04-28-2009, 11:10 PM
the series is still not over but you've already started blaming your honorable Pop who has dozens of badges on his chest...

correction, with the help of a guy named PJ carlesimo

exstatic
04-28-2009, 11:13 PM
its sad when fans and forumers think they know better than the fucking coach...

fify

Obstructed_View
04-28-2009, 11:24 PM
fify

Sorry, but considering the fans were calling for more Bowen and Hill before the series, how would you explain it?

Spurminator
04-28-2009, 11:27 PM
Pop overthunk himself this year. He made it way too hard on himself and the team. This isn't the first team to ever lose a key player heading into the Playoffs... you still have to have fairly regular rotations and established roles for your key players.

I also hated how Pop seemed to instill a sense of helplessness in the team. That's never been his style before, and this year there was way too much "We aren't as good as the Lakers," "We shouldn't be playing two Playoff games within 48 hours," "Our players can't play road back-to-backs," and the like. Fight through it. Other teams have to.

I just didn't see a coach trying to build the confidence of his team this year. At every turn, the moves and comments Pop made seemed to discourage confidence. Call it realism or whatever, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. We may not have had a Championship calibur roster this year, especially without Manu, but goddammit we're better than 5-game first round fodder to the Dallas Fucking Mavericks.

I don't know. Pop's a Hall of Fame coach and I ever want to see him anywhere else, so I hope he gets a lot of rest and gets back to the basics next year.

cwhitti
04-28-2009, 11:28 PM
Sorry, but considering the fans were calling for more Bowen and Hill before the series, how would you explain it?

Why is everyone freaking out about Pop. At the beginning of the year this team had issues and we all knew it. This year might have been one of his best coaching jobs of the season. This team had so many injuries and issues but still was the 3 seed. Should have Hill played more, yes but fire Pop, come on guys

celldweller
04-28-2009, 11:32 PM
Disappointed in Pop for his damn ass coaching.
1. Starting Bonner
2. Keeping Finley
3. Not trusting Hill in the playoffs
4. Keeping the youth movement in the D League and Europe
5. Ridding ourself of athleticism - Pops.
6. Not using Gooden Consistently.
7. Starting Bonner (deserves two entries)
8. Consistently stupid substitutions.
9. Making Mason a point guard.
10. Giving up too early on Bowen.
11. Scola!
12. and finally once again.....Bonner!

POP you blew it!!

Death In June
04-28-2009, 11:36 PM
Why is everyone freaking out about Pop. At the beginning of the year this team had issues and we all knew it. This year might have been one of his best coaching jobs of the season. This team had so many injuries and issues but still was the 3 seed. Should have Hill played more, yes but fire Pop, come on guysYou are glossing over a laundry list of issues with Pop. But I'm tired of making an argument against him. The guy stunk it up this year. No reason to bitch about it now. He's here as long as Tim is.

purist
04-28-2009, 11:47 PM
As usual, when the TEAM loses, the coach gets the blame. When they win, the players get the credit.

Face the truth. The Spurs overacheived this year. Given all the injuries and uncertainty that brought, IMO Pop probably did his best job of coaching over the past 10 years. Wihtout Manu, Spurs did not have many weapons and Dallas exposed that.

Coaching staff improvised on the fly time and time again. Pop improvised game plans to the skill sets of his players. And early on in the season he said, if we're not 100 percent healthy, we won't go far. He was right.

We were simply outmanned in this series. That we got 50-plus wins this should not be an indictment of Pop; it should be a testament to his abilities as a coach.

If you want to be pissed at anyone, be pissed at Manu for playing with the national team last summer instead of getting healthy.

cwhitti
04-28-2009, 11:51 PM
Lets fire a hall of fame coach with 4 rings and takes his team to the playoffs every year. And his players do not get arrested, help the community and runs a great organization. Sounds reasonable to me. Flatter me, who do you replace him with?

thOOdee
04-28-2009, 11:52 PM
Disappointed in Pop for his damn ass coaching.
1. Starting Bonner
2. Keeping Finley
3. Not trusting Hill in the playoffs
4. Keeping the youth movement in the D League and Europe
5. Ridding ourself of athleticism - Pops.
6. Not using Gooden Consistently.
7. Starting Bonner (deserves two entries)
8. Consistently stupid substitutions.
9. Making Mason a point guard.
10. Giving up too early on Bowen.
11. Scola!
12. and finally once again.....Bonner!

POP you blew it!!

Agree completely with everything stated. maybe except for finley, i don't mind him playing just because of the height and sometimes he can start a fire. Especially agree with Bonner added three time! One thing to add also, UDOKA TAKING DIRK!. WTF!... don't get me wrong, he played a ok game offensively for a bench player, but A 6'5 PLAYER TAKING A 7'0 GUY WHO LOVES TO SHOT RANGE!!. dirk is there best player and this is our strategy. this is comparable to jason kidd taking duncan. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WAS ENDED WITH UDOKA ON DIRK?

pjjrfan
04-28-2009, 11:52 PM
George "freakin" Hill!!!! he better see time in 2nd half but knowing POP!
Hill played the entire second half. The kid can play in this league, And IMO was a better fit at the backup than Mason was. Mason's move put him out of whack with his game and IMO was a bad move. After 5 games you could see Mason was a total liability at the point. Why Pop stuck with it, I just can't figure it out, hell, I can't figure out why he didn't sit Bonner in mid march.

SA210
04-28-2009, 11:53 PM
The lead story in Dallas sports after game 1 was how stupid Spurs fans are for bad-mouthing Pop. The two main issues were Bowen and Hill. How stupid are we now? Again, Pop's decisions against Dallas were just too much to overcome. I'm proud of the players that managed to mentally get past the loss of Manu, but unfortunately there were only four of those guys on the squad.

SA210
04-28-2009, 11:53 PM
Pop overthunk himself this year. He made it way too hard on himself and the team. This isn't the first team to ever lose a key player heading into the Playoffs... you still have to have fairly regular rotations and established roles for your key players.

I also hated how Pop seemed to instill a sense of helplessness in the team. That's never been his style before, and this year there was way too much "We aren't as good as the Lakers," "We shouldn't be playing two Playoff games within 48 hours," "Our players can't play road back-to-backs," and the like. Fight through it. Other teams have to.

I just didn't see a coach trying to build the confidence of his team this year. At every turn, the moves and comments Pop made seemed to discourage confidence. Call it realism or whatever, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. We may not have had a Championship calibur roster this year, especially without Manu, but goddammit we're better than 5-game first round fodder to the Dallas Fucking Mavericks.

I don't know. Pop's a Hall of Fame coach and I ever want to see him anywhere else, so I hope he gets a lot of rest and gets back to the basics next year.

SA210
04-28-2009, 11:53 PM
Disappointed in Pop for his damn ass coaching.
1. Starting Bonner
2. Keeping Finley
3. Not trusting Hill in the playoffs
4. Keeping the youth movement in the D League and Europe
5. Ridding ourself of athleticism - Pops.
6. Not using Gooden Consistently.
7. Starting Bonner (deserves two entries)
8. Consistently stupid substitutions.
9. Making Mason a point guard.
10. Giving up too early on Bowen.
11. Scola!
12. and finally once again.....Bonner!

POP you blew it!!

mavsluva
04-28-2009, 11:53 PM
I'd chime in but I have no coaching experience.

Regardless, it would have been a different series had Ginobilli been available.

Obstructed_View
04-28-2009, 11:57 PM
Lets fire a hall of fame coach with 4 rings and takes his team to the playoffs every year. And his players do not get arrested, help the community and runs a great organization. Sounds reasonable to me. Flatter me, who do you replace him with?

So far he's been outcoached by Rick Adelman, Avery Johnson and Rick Carlisle in the last few years in the playoffs, and those guys aren't exactly hall of famers. Basically any NBA coach that's willing to use his bench and develop young players or develop a rotation would be an improvement. Someone who benches Hill and Bowen, and then gives Gooden a DNP-CD in a close-out game doesn't make any sense.

thOOdee
04-29-2009, 12:01 AM
so far he's been outcoached by rick adelman, avery johnson and rick carlisle in the last few years in the playoffs, and those guys aren't exactly hall of famers. Basically any nba coach that's willing to use his bench and develop young players or develop a rotation would be an improvement. Someone who benches hill and bowen, and then gives gooden a dnp-cd in a close-out game doesn't make any sense.

and too add on benching gooden. Now i see why game changers don't come to the spurs.

Indazone
04-29-2009, 12:06 AM
Front office doesn't want Hill playing after his indecent pics showed up on the internet. Yes it's stupid but that's life. I noticed Hill's minutes dropped way off after the incident.

Obstructed_View
04-29-2009, 12:19 AM
Pop said there was no use for Gooden, and that he wouldn't play Hill in games one and two if he had it to do over. There's the stubbornness and ego that's put the Spurs where they are on full fucking display, folks.

thOOdee
04-29-2009, 12:21 AM
Pop said there was no use for Gooden, and that he wouldn't play Hill in games one and two if he had it to do over. There's the stubbornness and ego that's put the Spurs where they are on full fucking display, folks.

Pretty close to BUSH like qualities!

SouthTexasRancher
04-29-2009, 12:25 AM
George "freakin" Hill!!!! he better see time in 2nd half but knowing POP!

This was Pop's worst year of coaching by a long shot. For the life of me I just don't see what Pop sees in Bonner, Finley and even Mason. Pop ruined Mason but, that means Mason is weak mentally to allow that to happen. But, those 3 should be playing for Iran next season. If they are still with the Spurs then Pop should be coaching the Iranian women's team. he,he

loveforthegame
04-29-2009, 12:25 AM
Pop's biggest mistakes were not playing Hill and playing too much Bonner.

all_heart
04-29-2009, 12:26 AM
Pop said there was no use for Gooden, and that he wouldn't play Hill in games one and two if he had it to do over. There's the stubbornness and ego that's put the Spurs where they are on full fucking display, folks.

I didn't see/hear this.. where was this at!? If this is true then that's really fucked up.. Hill proved his worth, and why bother signing Gooden, if he can't use him!?

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
04-29-2009, 12:27 AM
Agree completely with everything stated. maybe except for finley, i don't mind him playing just because of the height and sometimes he can start a fire. Especially agree with Bonner added three time! One thing to add also, UDOKA TAKING DIRK!. WTF!... don't get me wrong, he played a ok game offensively for a bench player, but A 6'5 PLAYER TAKING A 7'0 GUY WHO LOVES TO SHOT RANGE!!. dirk is there best player and this is our strategy. this is comparable to jason kidd taking duncan. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WAS ENDED WITH UDOKA ON DIRK?

Pop thought he could borrow from Nelly's playbook, when he had midgets like stephen jackson and baron davis fronting Dirk...... Unfortunately for Spurs fans Pop can't recognize that Udoka is fucking garbage.

gmanrulz
04-29-2009, 12:27 AM
now that we finally get a young quality post playing big man in gooden, hes gonna leave cuz he doesnt get to play

Chomag
04-29-2009, 12:30 AM
Pop said there was no use for Gooden, and that he wouldn't play Hill in games one and two if he had it to do over. There's the stubbornness and ego that's put the Spurs where they are on full fucking display, folks.

Oh Wow! When and where did he say this?

thOOdee
04-29-2009, 12:38 AM
all in all i really hope they clean up this team except for tim tony hill kt gooden, and even though dissapointing as of late, manu. LETS HOPE THIS TEAM GOES FOR HEIGHT. atleast in the SG position. LAKERS HAVE ABOUT 3 7 FOOTERS, ODOM, AND THEN THEIRS KOBE!

Obstructed_View
04-29-2009, 01:00 AM
Oh Wow! When and where did he say this?

Post game news conference. I heard it on OAI.