Former Spur: Tiago Splitter

[ChumpDumper]

and 1 was sickIf he can knock down high post shots like that regularly, that could be very nice.

[scottspurs]

Spitter has a nice stroke on his free throws

[Maddog]

very good footwork. Moves his feet and body well

[TIMMYD!]

and 1 was sick

Yeah, it was.

[scottspurs]

Very strong post move right there, but that will get stuffed in the nba.

[scottspurs]

He needed to use the glass on that last shot

[scottspurs]

15 pt lead splitter probably done

[scottspurs]

13 pts, 11 rbs, and 5 asts in 28 minutes. Very solid game. You can only hope the spurs bring this guy over he is definitely a player.

[ffadicted]

lol making a comeback here man

edit: lol nvm everybody draining short 3's. Fuck the euro game is perimeter centered (unless this is a bad example), I wonder how splitter will fare in a more halfcourt, inside centered system with the spurs. Could only be better

[scottspurs]

lol making a comeback here man

Yeah i spoke to soon and splitter is back in

[TIMMYD!]

Damn, every other shot they take is a 3.

[scottspurs]

Came back in and added two spur like unselfish clutch assists. BOOM

[yavozerb]

Came back in and added two spur like unselfish clutch assists. BOOM

I think his passing is one of the main reasons him and TD will be able to play on the court together..

[scottspurs]

Damn, every other shot they take is a 3.

Yeah, I think Splitter would enjoy the NBA game a lot more where they actually feed the post. Off to watch the Nando De Colo game.

[taps]

Tiago's skillset is an almost perfect fit for the spurs. When Kobe said Pau was that perfect big man fit for Laker system, there's a similar parallel for *Tiago-Spurs IMO.

*(I am under delusion Tiago is as good as Gasol, just comparing situations.)

[beachwood]

This is the first time I've seen Splitter play, besides watching highlight clips. He moves well. Better than I imagined he would. Makes good passes out of double teams too. Want to watch more games of his before I make my evaluations though.

[Spurs Brazil]

During yesterday broadcast of Celtics-Magic, Eduardo Agra, of ESPN Brasil, who was broadcasting the game, said he talked with Tiago's agent and he said they are already talking with the Spurs.

[yavozerb]

During yesterday broadcast of Celtics-Magic, Eduardo Agra, of ESPN Brasil, who was broadcasting the game, said he talked with Tiago's agent and he said they are already talking with the Spurs.

I am sure the spurs want to get an verbal agreement ASAP so they can decide on what future moves to possibly do and are probably pushing the Splitter camp pretty hard (which they should be). This is good news I think.

[mogrovejo]

Bad game for Splitter today (struggled with foul trouble most of the game, never got into a rhythm) event though he still punished Estudiantes for doubling him every time.

His team was still pretty impressive though, I think they're going to the finals with Barcelona.

[TIMMYD!]

I am sure the spurs want to get an verbal agreement ASAP so they can decide on what future moves to possibly do and are probably pushing the Splitter camp pretty hard (which they should be). This is good news I think.

I think it is great news, better to start sooner than later so that we know what type of player to get in the draft.

[Manufan909]

So who did Caja play that everyone was posting about? I want to watch it when I get home tomorrow. Bruno, will the game be on the link you posted a couple weeks ago?

[Mel_13]

So who did Caja play that everyone was posting about? I want to watch it when I get home tomorrow. Bruno, will the game be on the link you posted a couple weeks ago?

Game 1:

http://acb360.orange.es/diferidos/LACB/54/308


Game 2:

http://acb360.orange.es/diferidos/LACB/54/312

[Mel_13]

Schedule for semi-finals v. Real Madrid

May 28
May 30
June 2
June 4
June 6

Best of 5, games 1, 2, and 5 at home.

http://www.acb.com/

[yavozerb]

Schedule for semi-finals v. Real Madrid

May 28
May 30
June 2
June 4
June 6

Best of 5, games 1, 2, and 5 at home.

http://www.acb.com/

For those bored at work or at home, game 1 will be starting up shortly..
Splitter should be matched up against Tomic, should be a good game

[DesignatedT]

For those bored at work or at home, game 1 will be starting up shortly..
Splitter should be matched up against Tomic, should be a good game

thanks :toast

here is the link for everyone.

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/320

[yavozerb]

6 pts, 7 rbs, 3 asts for tiago in the first half and he played very good defense as well. Caja is down 34-26 at half. Tiago had a horrible turnover right before the half though that really hurt caja.

[yavozerb]

6 pts, 7 rbs, 3 asts for tiago in the first half and he played very good defense as well. Tiago had a horrible turnover right before the half though that really hurt caja.

[DesignatedT]

First Half: 6 pts 8 rebs 3 assist so far for Splitter.

Real Madrid : 34
Caja Laboral: 26

2nd half about to start.

who is the favorite in this game anyway? or the seeding regarding the teams left.

[Mel_13]

First Half: 6 pts 8 rebs 3 assist so far for Splitter.

Real Madrid : 34
Caja Laboral: 26

2nd half about to start.

who is the favorite in this game anyway? or the seeding regarding the teams left.

Caja is the #2 seed and Real is the #3 seed. Both teams finished with records of 27-7. The other semifinal is between the #1 seed, Barcelona (31-3), and the #5 seed, Unicaja (19-15).

[DesignatedT]

Caja is the #2 seed and Real is the #3 seed. Both teams finished with records of 27-7. The other semifinal is between the #1 seed, Barcelona (31-3), and the #5 seed, Unicaja (19-15).

thanks :toast

[ace3g]

Splitter and Caja win a close game 62-60; Real Madrid had a chance to win the game but their last shot attempt missed and Caja got the rebound

[kobyz]

Tiago defense was amazing!

[ChumpDumper]

From what I saw it was a pretty strong game all around for Splitter.

[ace3g]

Yeah Splitter definitely knows how to work the PnR. Sometimes he disguises like he is going to roll to the basket then move further toward the perimeter to give his teammate room to go to the basket.

His defense was good today as well. Doesn't look like he gets pushed around by bigger players in the post.

[ChumpDumper]

That's really my only beef as well. His movement and passing on offense were really nice.

[DesignatedT]

From the game I liked how Splitter moved with and without the ball. He had a great 1st half defensively and on the glass and in the 3rd quarter really came out aggressive. Caja didn't seem to give him many touches down the stretch and in the 4th quarter but his Defense was still solid. His passing ability is very good for a big man including his passing out of the double team. Him and Duncan should be able to play some nice High-Low ball with both of them being able to pass the ball great for big men. His free throw stroke looks a little weird but they seem to go in and he looks comfortable shooting them.

Overall I could see him fitting in well here and with our type of offense. That European ball is a lot different and for much of the game hes rolling around the perimeter which won't happen here. I'm looking forward to the day when we hopefully make this official.

[TD 21]

I know he's only 25, but is anyone else even mildly concerned about fatigue at this point? Not now, but next season around this time, when the Spurs hope to be in the midst of the WCF? If they're to be in that position, they'll need him to play a relatively big part, I presume. I'm wondering if at some point he'll wear down.

Think about it. He's still playing now, he's going to play for his national team this summer and all that will comes before (assuming he signs) going through the grind that is the NBA season. Keep in mind, this is a guy who has an injury history as well.

[yavozerb]

I know he's only 25, but is anyone else even mildly concerned about fatigue at this point? Not now, but next season around this time, when the Spurs hope to be in the midst of the WCF? If they're to be in that position, they'll need him to play a relatively big part, I presume. I'm wondering if at some point he'll wear down.

Think about it. He's still playing now, he's going to play for his national team this summer and all that will comes before (assuming he signs) going through the grind that is the NBA season. Keep in mind, this is a guy who has an injury history as well.

Not really, since the spanish league regular season is only around 35 games and each playoff series is best of with only 3 possible rounds. I am sure he will fill full the effect (just like any rookie) of an NBA season.

[yavozerb]

http://acbtv.acb.com/video/2950

highlights from game 1 vs. real madrid

[Mel_13]

I know he's only 25, but is anyone else even mildly concerned about fatigue at this point? Not now, but next season around this time, when the Spurs hope to be in the midst of the WCF? If they're to be in that position, they'll need him to play a relatively big part, I presume. I'm wondering if at some point he'll wear down.

Think about it. He's still playing now, he's going to play for his national team this summer and all that will comes before (assuming he signs) going through the grind that is the NBA season. Keep in mind, this is a guy who has an injury history as well.


Not really, since the spanish league regular season is only around 35 games and each playoff series is best of with only 3 possible rounds. I am sure he will fill full the effect (just like any rookie) of an NBA season.

In addition to what yavozerb had to say, we have two recent examples of bigs who played in the ACB playoffs, for their NT, and then played their NBA rookie season.

Scola in 2007 played all 82 games and just over 2000 minutes. Marc Gasol in 2008 played in all 82 games and just over 2500 minutes.

His history of nagging injuries is, of course, some cause for concern.

[Big P]

I know he's only 25, but is anyone else even mildly concerned about fatigue at this point? Not now, but next season around this time, when the Spurs hope to be in the midst of the WCF? If they're to be in that position, they'll need him to play a relatively big part, I presume. I'm wondering if at some point he'll wear down.

Think about it. He's still playing now, he's going to play for his national team this summer and all that will comes before (assuming he signs) going through the grind that is the NBA season. Keep in mind, this is a guy who has an injury history as well.

So what should we do...not try to sign him because he might be fatigued?

[Libri]

I know he's only 25, but is anyone else even mildly concerned about fatigue at this point? Not now, but next season around this time, when the Spurs hope to be in the midst of the WCF? If they're to be in that position, they'll need him to play a relatively big part, I presume. I'm wondering if at some point he'll wear down.

Think about it. He's still playing now, he's going to play for his national team this summer and all that will comes before (assuming he signs) going through the grind that is the NBA season. Keep in mind, this is a guy who has an injury history as well.

Nope, not a bit concerned about him being tired. The only thing that might be of concern is his injuries. He seems to be injury prone. Nevertheless, the Spurs need to take a chance with him.

[Muser]

He's a damn good passer for a big man. Him and Timmy would be an awesome passing duo.

[TD 21]

In addition to what yavozerb had to say, we have two recent examples of bigs who played in the ACB playoffs, for their NT, and then played their NBA rookie season.

Scola in 2007 played all 82 games and just over 2000 minutes. Marc Gasol in 2008 played in all 82 games and just over 2500 minutes.

His history of nagging injuries is, of course, some cause for concern.

Scola and Gasol weren't on teams with serious aspirations of making a deep run and ultimately winning it all.


So what should we do...not try to sign him because he might be fatigued?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was alluding to.


Nope, not a bit concerned about him being tired. The only thing that might be of concern is his injuries. He seems to be injury prone. Nevertheless, the Spurs need to take a chance with him.

It's not even a chance, it's a no brainer. All I'm asking is are any of you concerned that by, say, mid-late May (if they're still playing by then next season and he's on the team), he might wear down and have a drop in his performance?

[BronxCowboy]

It's not even a chance, it's a no brainer. All I'm asking is are any of you concerned that by, say, mid-late May (if they're still playing by then next season and he's on the team), he might wear down and have a drop in his performance?

Would playing into late May/June deter you from pursuing a quality free agent say from an NBA team that made it to the finals? After all, I'm sure they're fatigued.

[Mel_13]

Scola and Gasol weren't on teams with serious aspirations of making a deep run and ultimately winning it all.


First, I'd say that's irrelevant unless you believe that playing 2000-2500 minutes for a lesser team is less likely to cause fatigue that playing a similar number for a better one, but I'll leave that one alone.

Second, Scola joined a team that had 52 wins in the prior season and went on to win 55 games in his rookie season. Splitter will join a team that won 50 games in the prior and will go on to win ____games in his rookie season. So dismissing the Scola example is clearly not supported by the facts.

[TD 21]

Would playing into late May/June deter you from pursuing a quality free agent say from an NBA team that made it to the finals? After all, I'm sure they're fatigued.

Where are you guys getting this from? I asked if anyone was mildly concerned; I never said a thing about re-considering signing him. Like I said, it's a no brainer.


First, I'd say that's irrelevant unless you believe that playing 2000-2500 minutes for a lesser team is less likely to cause fatigue that playing a similar number for a better one, but I'll leave that one alone.

Second, Scola joined a team that had 52 wins in the prior season and went on to win 55 games in his rookie season. Splitter will join a team that won 50 games in the prior and will go on to win ____games in his rookie season. So dismissing the Scola example is clearly not supported by the facts.

It's not just the minutes, it's how long his season could potentially be. Scola's rookie season ended end of April. Once again, I'm talking about how Splitter would hold up in mid-late May and possibly into June (if the Spurs lasted that long, obviously). It's not just more games, it's more playoff games and many have said one playoff game is the equivalent of two regular season games.

I don't need your numbers. I'm well aware of the situation Scola jumped into and of the one Splitter may jump into. The reality of the situation is the Rockets didn't have a championship caliber team in 07-08; the Spurs might in 10-11.

[Mel_13]

I don't need your numbers. I'm well aware of the situation Scola jumped into and of the one Splitter may jump into. The reality of the situation is the Rockets didn't have a championship caliber team in '08; the Spurs might in '10.

TD21 has spoken. No need for further discussion, introduction of facts or alternate theories or opinions.

:toast

[TD 21]

You thought you'd spew numbers I was unaware of and I'd bow down and go, "Scola and Splitter are entering similar situations"...only I didn't, because they aren't.

I know he's only 25, but is anyone else even mildly concerned about fatigue at this point? Not now, but next season around this time, when the Spurs hope to be in the midst of the WCF? If they're to be in that position, they'll need him to play a relatively big part, I presume. I'm wondering if at some point he'll wear down.

How is that the same as the Scola's rookie season, genius?

[Mel_13]

You thought you'd spew numbers I was unaware of and I'd bow down and go, "Scola and Splitter are entering similar situations"...only I didn't, because they aren't.

I know he's only 25, but is anyone else even mildly concerned about fatigue at this point? Not now, but next season around this time, when the Spurs hope to be in the midst of the WCF? If they're to be in that position, they'll need him to play a relatively big part, I presume. I'm wondering if at some point he'll wear down.

How is that the same as the Scola's rookie season, genius?

My default response to your comments will now be:

+1

[BronxCowboy]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was alluding to.


Where are you guys getting this from? I asked if anyone was mildly concerned; I never said a thing about re-considering signing him.

Excuse me please if I missed your sarcasm. I don't always get it on the first read.

[TD 21]

My default response to your comments will now be:

+1

Way to attempt to conceal the fact that you've conceded. Nice try, genius.


Excuse me please if I missed your sarcasm. I don't always get it on the first read.

It was sarcasm. I've repeatedly said it's a no brainer to sign Splitter.

[Mel_13]

Way to attempt to conceal the fact that you've conceded. Nice try, genius.

There's nothing here worth debating. My first post in response to your question wasn't offered to take any opposing point of view, but to add something to the conversation. You're the one who responded with condescension. I responded to your condescension with sarcasm.

You're right. Clearly there are no parallels between Scola's situation in 2007 and Splitter's potential situation in 2010. No parallel whatsoever. I was wrong, you were right. I concede to your superior knowledge and interpretation of the relative strengths of the players and teams involved. You win.

:toast

[TD 21]

If there's nothing worth debating here, then run along sideshow Mel. What was this then, just another attempt to have a argument with me? Other than extreme arrogance, that seems to be your M.O.

Did I say "no parallels"? "Relative strengths of the players and teams involved"? Never got into that, either. Now you're just flat out making things up, while attempting to come off as intelligent in the process. Too bad you're failing to do so.

What I said was the Rockets weren't legitimate contenders in 07-08. The 10-11 Spurs might be. That means one was done playing in late April, while the other could be playing deep into May and possibly June. I suppose you'll now tell me that that makes no difference as far as fatigue is concerned?

[Mel_13]

What was this then, just another attempt to have a argument with me? Other than extreme arrogance, that seems to be your M.O.

Supreme irony.

Go back and read the posts and see when it devolved from a conversation to an argument. Better yet, look at your ongoing argument in the Mahinmi thread. You're the one who can't let go without a concession.

So, I concede. I'll know better than to make any comment on anything you post unless I am in perfect agreement with what you have to say.

[TD 21]

TD21 has spoken. No need for further discussion, introduction of facts or alternate theories or opinions.

:toast

It was this post that this devolved from a conversation to an argument. Yet another example of your extreme arrogance, this time in the form of sarcasm. The issue? I essentially told you your comparison was a bad one and pointed out the primary difference between the two situations. You couldn't take the fact that someone wasn't impressed with what you brought to the table.


Supreme irony.

Go back and read the posts and see when it devolved from a conversation to an argument. Better yet, look at your ongoing argument in the Mahinmi thread. You're the one who can't let go without a concession.

So, I concede. I'll know better than to make any comment on anything you post unless I am in perfect agreement with what you have to say.

Somehow I knew you'd bring up the Mahinmi thread. I'm not surprised, since you're desperate to have some of your yes men come into this thread and back you. The Mahinmi thread has nothing to do with letting go, it's based on one person not understanding the other.

I know you concede. All this ongoing talk is just an attempt to change the subject. It's not about agreeing with me, because, you like many, lack basic reading comprehension skills. I never said "I think Splitter will be fatigued if the Spurs make the WCF next season" or "I know Splitter will be fatigued if the Spurs make the WCF next season". I asked, "is anyone mildly concerned he will be fatigued if the Spurs make the WCF next season?" Based on all you've written, I'll take it you're not. That's fine, but don't act like Scola rookie season which finished in April is the same as the situation I'm describing.

[Mel_13]

it was this post that this devolved from a conversation to an argument. Yet another example of your extreme arrogance, this time in the form of sarcasm. The issue? I essentially told you your comparison was a bad one and pointed out the primary difference between the two situations. You couldn't take the fact that someone wasn't impressed with what you brought to the table.



Somehow i knew you'd bring up the mahinmi thread. I'm not surprised, since you're desperate to have some of your yes men come into this thread and back you. The mahinmi thread has nothing to do with letting go, it's based on one person not understanding the other.

I know you concede. All this ongoing talk is just an attempt to change the subject. It's not about agreeing with me, because, you like many, lack basic reading comprehension skills. I never said "i think splitter will be fatigued if the spurs make the wcf next season" or "i know splitter will be fatigued if the spurs make the wcf next season". I asked, "is anyone mildly concerned he will be fatigued if the spurs make the wcf next season?" based on all you've written, i'll take it you're not. That's fine, but don't act like scola rookie season which finished in april is the same as the situation i'm describing.

+1

[TD 21]

That's exactly how this conversation devolved into an argument. It's really a one sided argument, because all I asked was "how are the two situations the same?" You followed that up by dodging the question and being sarcastic, which was a clear sign that you had conceded.

Clearly, the Scola situation and the situation I am describing are different. That's not opinion; that's fact. You can argue until you're blue in the face, the reality is Scola didn't play into late May in his rookie season.

[ChumpDumper]

I think there is enough time between playoff games to effectively negate any difference in fatigue between late April and late May.

[Mel_13]

That's exactly how this conversation devolved into an argument. It's really a one sided argument, because all I asked was "how are the two situations the same?" You followed that up by dodging the question and being sarcastic, which was a clear sign that you had conceded.

Clearly, the Scola situation and the situation I am describing are different. That's not opinion; that's fact. You can argue until you're blue in the face, the reality is Scola didn't play into late May in his rookie season.

:lol

You're the only one who is arguing. You're the only who has been arguing for quite some time now. How many times must I concede to your superior knowledge and reasoning before you accept my concession? Do you not see the irony in continuing to make your case long after I have conceded, while at the same time accusing me of being invested in starting and maintaining the argument. Once again, I concede. This clearly was not a difference of opinion, but rather a matter resolvable by the facts. Clearly the facts you have presented have carried the day.

For what I hope will be the last time, you win.

[TD 21]

Give it up, man. I'm not arguing and this isn't about my "superior knowledge and reasoning". This is about the fact that you tried to compare two different things and make them one and the same. Only, you're too arrogant to admit that you misunderstood what I was saying. Get over yourself.

I'm not making my case, I'm explaining the situation. You said go back and find where this devolved from conversation to argument and I did.

[mogrovejo]

Splitter's coach is legendary for the physical preparation he gives to his team. More than one guy have asked to leave his team due to how physically demanding his practices are. If Splitter survived Ivanovic's practices, he won't have any problems with a NBA season.

This is more of a problem for younger players and rookies out of college. Plus, I doubt Splitter will be playing 38 mpg or something like that.

[Mel_13]

Give it up, man. I'm not arguing and this isn't about my "superior knowledge and reasoning". This is about the fact that you tried to compare two different things and make them one and the same. Only, you're too arrogant to admit that you misunderstood what I was saying. Get over yourself.

I'm not making my case, I'm explaining the situation. You said go back and find where this devolved from conversation to argument and I did.

The words speak for themselves. I have no intention of editing my previous posts. As long as you do the same, they will continue to speak for themselves.

[TD 21]

ChumperDumper and mogrovejo understood the (simple) question and answered accordingly. On top of that, they managed to do it without a hint of arrogance.

[Mel_13]

ChumperDumper and mogrovejo understood the (simple) question and answered accordingly. On top of that, they managed to do it without a hint of arrogance.


In addition to what yavozerb had to say, we have two recent examples of bigs who played in the ACB playoffs, for their NT, and then played their NBA rookie season.

Scola in 2007 played all 82 games and just over 2000 minutes. Marc Gasol in 2008 played in all 82 games and just over 2500 minutes.

His history of nagging injuries is, of course, some cause for concern.

Where is there any hint of arrogance in my initial response to the question you posed?

[ChumpDumper]

ChumperDumper and mogrovejo understood the (simple) question and answered accordingly. On top of that, they managed to do it without a hint of arrogance.Must be an off day for both of us.

[TD 21]

It wasn't your initial response, it was the follow up responses.

I was thinking the same thing, chumperdumper. :lol

[Mel_13]

It wasn't your initial response, it was the follow up responses.


At this point, I will make a sincere attempt to lower the volume and make a real attempt to move beyond this and get back to talking about basketball. I hope you are willing to do the same.

You have quoted a particular post of mine as objectionable. This one:


TD21 has spoken. No need for further discussion, introduction of facts or alternate theories or opinions.

:toast

I will readily admit that I wrote that post to be sarcastic.

That post was in response to a post of yours which included:


I don't need your numbers. I'm well aware of the situation Scola jumped into and of the one Splitter may jump into. The reality of the situation is the Rockets didn't have a championship caliber team in '08; the Spurs might in '10.

Now, perhaps you will concede that the bolded portion contains at least a hint of arrogance on your part. Maybe there was no such intent on your part. Even if there was intent on your part, I certainly raised the volume with my response.

So, I'm ready to leave this behind and move back to discussing basketball

Are you?

[Blackjack]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/eomolina/R8skQyuV1iI/AAAAAAAAChQ/ObQ6XkdmKzo/40k%20No%20Surrender.jpg

:downspin:

[TD 21]

At this point, I will make a sincere attempt to lower the volume and make a real attempt to move beyond this and get back to talking about basketball. I hope you are willing to do the same.

You have quoted a particular post of mine as objectionable. This one:



I will readily admit that I wrote that post to be sarcastic.

That post was in response to a post of yours which included:



Now, perhaps you will concede that the bolded portion contains at least a hint of arrogance on your part. Maybe there was no such intent on your part. Even if there was intent on your part, I certainly raised the volume with my response.

So, I'm ready to leave this behind and move back to discussing basketball

Are you?

That's what I've been trying to do all along. Glad to see you've joined in.

There was no such intent on my part and you certainly did raise the volume. Good on you for owning up to it...finally (sorry, I couldn't resist).

My point was you acted as if because the win totals were similar (Rockets was actually higher) that that meant each team was/will be entering the season expecting to legitimately compete for a championship. But really, were the '08 Rockets legitimately expecting to compete for a championship? I don't think they were and even in the event they were, that was really irrelevant to what I was asking.

All I was saying was the Rockets season ended in late April. How do you think Splitter will hold up in late May and possibly into June next season, coming off of playing deep into this season and playing for the national team over the summer?

[Mel_13]

That's what I've been trying to do all along. Glad to see you've joined in.

There was no such intent on my part and you certainly did raise the volume. Good on you for owning up to it...finally (sorry, I couldn't resist).

My point was you acted as if because the win totals were similar (Rockets was actually higher) that that meant each team was/will be entering the season expecting to legitimately compete for a championship. But really, were the '08 Rockets legitimately expecting to compete for a championship? I don't think they were and even in the event they were, that was really irrelevant to what I was asking.

All I was saying was the Rockets season ended in late April. How do you think Splitter will hold up in late May and possibly into June next season, coming off of playing deep into this season and playing for the national team over the summer?

So, you do see how it could have been taken as such even if there was no intent?(sorry, couldn't resist either).

As to the Splitter discussion, I understood your point all along and never intended to contradict it. You'll have to accept that just as you feel that I didn't follow your point, I also felt that you didn't follow mine.

To respond directly without revisiting the earlier discussion. Of course, doubt exists as to how Splitter will hold up as he adjusts to life in America, the brutally long NBA season and the ridiculous schedule that will have him playing 5 games in 5 different cities in a week, and then a post season that could extend the season by more than 20 high stakes games. It will be uncharted territory for him and playing for the NT doesn't help matters.

For now, though, the only real concern I have about Tiago Splitter is whether or not he will sign an NBA contract to play for the San Antonio Spurs. We'll only get the answers to all the other questions about how skilled and durable he can be in the NBA after the biggest question is answered.

[TD 21]

So, you do see how it could have been taken as such even if there was no intent?(sorry, couldn't resist either).

As to the Splitter discussion, I understood your point all along and never intended to contradict it. You'll have to accept that just as you feel that I didn't follow your point, I also felt that you didn't follow mine.

To respond directly without revisiting the earlier discussion. Of course, doubt exists as to how Splitter will hold up as he adjusts to life in America, the brutally long NBA season and the ridiculous schedule that will have him playing 5 games in 5 different cities in a week, and then a post season that could extend the season by more than 20 high stakes games. It will be uncharted territory for him and playing for the NT doesn't help matters.

For now, though, the only real concern I have about Tiago Splitter is whether or not he will sign an NBA contract to play for the San Antonio Spurs. We'll only get the answers to all the other questions about how skilled and durable he can be in the NBA after the biggest question is answered.

Yeah. It's easy for things to get lost in translation on a message board.

How did I not follow your point?

I agree with the part in bold. I know that we'll only get those answers after the fact. It was just a question. A lot of what we're doing here is projecting, predicting, etc.

[Mel_13]

Yeah. It's easy for things to get lost in translation on a message board.

How did I not follow your point?

I agree with the part in bold. I know that we'll only get those answers after the fact. It was just a question. A lot of what we're doing here is projecting, predicting, etc.

I don't know that you didn't, more a perception on my part. Just as you said that you believed I wasn't following your points, when I'm very certain that I was. As you said, things get lost in translation. Now that we've returned to to a normal conversational tone and found a major point of agreement, it's certainly not worth going back down that particular rabbit hole.

I'm sure that others will present themselves in the future.

[Darkwaters]

ChumperDumper and mogrovejo understood the (simple) question and answered accordingly. On top of that, they managed to do it without a hint of arrogance.

Whats a chumperdumper?

[Bruno]

Caja Laboral won game 2 85-80 in OT.

Splitter was damn awesome.

[Muser]

What were his stats?

[Penya]

Splitter is right now the best player in ACB.
He is playing with the beast mode on.

[Penya]

What were his stats?

http://jornadavirtual.acb.com/htm/estadisticas/est322.htm

[Muser]

23 points on 71% shooting...Damn..

[yavozerb]

23 points on 71% shooting...Damn..

and 10 rebounds to go along with the 23 pts. Tiago will face ricky rubio and fran vasquez in the championship.

[kobyz]

and 10 rebounds to go along with the 23 pts. Tiago will face ricky rubio and fran vasquez in the championship.

the series is not over yet, it's the best of 5 series!

[kobyz]

i think Tiago will have much more hard toscore in the NBA but i very like is defense, he renind at defense a poor man Kevin Garnett, his help defense, the way he defend pick and roll and his IQ.

[mathbzh]

How many $ would it take to bring him here?
Does the rookie scale still apply to him?

[Mel_13]

How many $ would it take to bring him here?
Does the rookie scale still apply to him?

Rookie scale does not apply.

Spurs maximum possible offer is the full MLE.

Only Splitter knows what it will take to bring him here.

[Libri]

23 points on 71% shooting...Damn..

That FG% is an impressive stat. During the regular season he consistently had a high FG%. I think he will be able to bring that same efficiency to the Spurs. I'm not expecting him to score frequently in the 20s but he can become an effective player in the post, especially against those teams who lack a significant presence in the paint.

[benefactor]

We need to have a "Most Confrontational Poster" award. There is a good candidate in this thread.

[ChumpDumper]

We need to have a "Most Confrontational Poster" award. There is a good candidate in this thread.No there isn't.

Shut up.

[benefactor]

No there isn't.

Shut up.
Ok...perhaps there are two good candidates in this thread. :)

[Blackjack]

We need to have a "Most Confrontational Poster" award. There is a good candidate in this thread.

6ryLjA_tqk8

TD 21, that's what; you're my boy, Blue! :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/eomolina/R8skQyuV1iI/AAAAAAAAChQ/ObQ6XkdmKzo/40k%20No%20Surrender.jpg

:downspin:

:rollin

[sabar]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/eomolina/R8skQyuV1iI/AAAAAAAAChQ/ObQ6XkdmKzo/40k%20No%20Surrender.jpg

:downspin:

:rollin
Well done.

[Mel_13]

Link for Game 4, starts in about 20 minutes:

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/326

[RiverwalkParade]

if this guy gets over here and sucks, I'm going to be pissed

[rayray2k8]

if this guy gets over here and sucks, I'm going to be pissed

I think he'll be a solid role player. He's been labeled as being the spurs 'savior', but I think smarter spurs fans believe he can help contribute right away by helping duncan guard the basket with his defense and hustle play.

[Bruno]

The good news for Spurs is that Madrid weaknesses are mainly on the perimeter.

In the paint, they have a solid team. Tomic is something special, Reyes is solid and even Lavrinovic bring some good depth. Add to this Velickovic who curently plays SF but who is a PF and Madrid has a good PF/C rotation.

Given how great Splitter is, Madrid will likely try to get him but I doubt they will spend all their money on him. If they want to really improve their team, perimeter players must be their priorities.

[DesignatedT]

So what happened in the game? What's the series at for Caja now? Splitter put up another solid performance?

tia

[benefactor]

Box score:

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Spain/2010/0604_86_108.asp

[outmap]

I like how Eurobasket counts fouls received and blocks against in the scoreboard.

[Sigz]

So is this bitch coming over or what?

[TimDunkem]

So is this bitch coming over or what?

Of course he is you bitch.

[Big P]

:corn:

[admiralsnackbar]

So is this bitch coming over or what?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/budget/7806064/Euro-will-be-dead-in-five-years.html

[Mel_13]

Splitter with 18/9/4 as Caja Laboral wins Game 5 by a score of 64-56. They will now face Barcelona in the Spanish League Finals.

The official start of Splitter Watch 2010 will have to wait until the Finals are over.:depressed

Replay video should be available soon here:

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/328

[Bruno]

Splitter was great again.
IMO, he is the best player in Europe this year.

[Mel_13]

Game 5 video:

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/328

[Spurs Brazil]

Splitter was great again.
IMO, he is the best player in Europe this year.

I didn't see the game but Brazilian websites are saying great things about Tiago in this game.

I hope he can win the tittle and then come to San Antonio

[Harry Callahan]

He is a long term investment for the Spurs if they sign him. I imagine it will take 4-5 years and a big chunk of the Mid-Level to get him here. However, if he is a bit worn down at some point next year (if he comes to SA) I imagine the front office would just consider it a cost of doing business. It's a real priority to get him here because he will be (unless something weird happens) the best new player on the roster next year.

[yavozerb]

http://acb360.orange.es/diferidos/LACB/54/328

[rayray2k8]

Looking forward to seeing Splitter against Rubio... See what all the hype is all about.
Referring to Rubio of course. :lol

[yavozerb]

Looking forward to seeing Splitter against Rubio... See what all the hype is all about.
Referring to Rubio of course. :lol

Splitter vs. Fran Vasquez is gonna be fun to watch..Vasquez is one of the best shot blockers (so I have read, but have not seen him play yet) in europe.

[Bruno]

Barcelona has a couple of good defensive 7 footer with NDong and Vasquez. Splitter will face quality defenders.

BTW, schedule of the finale (San Antonio time):
Game 1: @Barcelona June 10th 1:30pm
Game 2: @ Barcelona June 12th 11:00am
Game 3: @Caja June 15th 1:30pm
Game 4*: @Caja June 17th 1:30pm
Game 5*: @Barcelona June 19th 11:00am

*: if necessary

[TD 21]

From CBS.com Spurs report...

--The player the Spurs hope to lure to San Antonio next season, 2007 draft pick Tiago Splitter, was named the MVP of ACB for the 2009-10 season. Splitter averaged 21.2 points. Selected 28th overall, the 7-footer has dominated in Europe, and there are rumors that Splitter's agent is already talking with Spurs management.

[Thomas82]

I feel like there is a silver lining to both options, whether we get Tiago Splitter or Derrick Favors. I would be happy with either one of them. Either way, the Spurs would have another big to pair with Tim Duncan.

Tiago Splitter: If nothing else, we wouldn't be able to say it was a wasted draft pick if he comes over. He would have an immediate impact on the team, giving Tim Duncan the best center he has played with since David Robinson, and the Spurs the much-needed interior presence to go along with TD. No need to go into details about the tools Splitter would bring to the team, because there are enough threads about him on here that already do that.

Derrick Favors: If the Spurs can somehow get Favors, that would also be a huge plus. With me living in Alabama, I got a chance to see a pretty good bit of his games at Georgia Tech, and liked what I saw. He has a nice combination of length, athleticism, quickness, good awareness for somebody as young as he is, and is a pretty good defender and should be one of the best in the league with some polishing. From what I heard from the announcers, he also has a good work ethic, and that's a neccesity for being a Spur. He supposedly fits the profile of what the Spurs have been looking for since David Robinson retired, and could potentially take over for Tim Duncan as the franchise player one day.

I'm well aware that Derrick Favors is a project, but I like his chances of becoming a dominant big man one day if he comes to the Spurs mainly for 2 reasons:

1.) He would be mentored by the G.O.A.T. power forward; a top 10 all-time great regardless of position.

2.) Since he wouldn't be going to a losing team, there wouldn't be any ridiculous expectations for him. He could be a difference maker without the pressure of carrying the team. I believe that's a major factor in why the success rate for high draft picks is so low.


Like I said, I would be happy with either move if for no other reason than Tim Duncan having a legit big man next to him. But the more I read and hear about the possibilty of the Spurs trading up to get Derrick Favors, no matter how big or small that possibility might be, the more I'm in favor of that happening. The big question, and the key to making that happen obviously is what they would have to give up to make that happen. I do rememember several years back either Peter Holt or R.C. Buford saying that the Spurs planned on using TD in the David Robinson role toward the end of his career.

I strongly believe that if you have any kind of chance to get a potential franchise big man, you at least have to look into it. The more things change, the more they stay the same. In other words, as much as the game has changed over the years, one thing has remained constant: The way to build your team is from the inside out. The league might be a guard-driven league and all that, but you won't win a championship without a dominant (or highly skilled) big man. Here are a couple of stats as proof:

-56 out of the 64 NBA champions (including the current NBA Finals teams) have had a dominant/high skill big man- either a center or power forward.

-35 out the 55 league MVPs have went to either a center or power forward.


One other thing, I know I'm preaching to the chior on this one, but obviously the workload on Tim Duncan is way to much. It's making him look older than what he is. I feel like even at 34 years old, with a dependable center next to him, he could still be dominant. Here is the way I see it:

The lack of another dependable big has led to TD playing most of the game these days as the sole big on the floor. Which means that in addition to the normal 20/10 he puts up, he also has to help make up for the 10 rebounds a game they lose from not having that other big next to him. He also has to guard the best big on the floor for the other team, and block all the shots.

With him being the only big on the floor most of the time, that means the Spurs are going small. When they go small, that means Richard Jefferson moves over to power forward. As a result, you are asking him not only to get the normal 6 rebounds expected from a small forward, but split the center's rebounds with Tim Duncan. It's unrealistic to expect that to happen every night. So in essence, TD is having to give production for both post positions which again, at his age and miles he has, is too much for him, and that's why he wears down after the All-Star break.


The Spurs need to go back to the Twin Tower approach, that's what got them the championships in the first place. Whether they get Tiago Splitter or Derrick Favors, they need another big in there with TD in the worst way, along with a peremeter defender. This is just how I see it.

[Cane]

Great post, Thomas82.

Definitely agreed that the Spurs need to go back to a defensive and bigger approach to the game. Looking at the NBA Finals both teams got there though their size advantages with the edge towards LA. Gasol and Bynum seem to be able to score at will against Boston and they had a monster 14 blocks although ultimately losing Game 2 (they didn't seem to go through their bigs at the 4th though).

I wonder if the Spurs have also considered picking up both Tiago and Favors. Since imo even with Tiago the Spurs seem to lack a legitimate option defending against explosive athletic bigs such as Amar'e end even Lamar Odom. Favors could fill that role and more rest for McDyess and TD, the better. Duncan usually plays better in the first half of the season which leads me to believe that fatigue gets to him when the playoffs roll around moreso than we like to believe.

[Gino2882]

The difference between Splitter and Favors at this point is the fact that the Spurs have a legitimate chance of getting Tiago Splitter. IMO Favors is a longshot pipe dream. Obviously getting Favors would involve giving up Parker and probably more.

Splitter would come over without compensation and be a long-term piece of the Spurs future.

[yavozerb]

I was wondering to all those who have seen splitter play for sometime, can he regularly hit that 10-15 ft jumpshot? It seems as though in this pick and roll offense that he really does not need to take many jumpshots since he is either going to the basket or sitting a pick. From watching most of his games over this season he seems to have good form on his shot and seems to hit most of the few he does take. Just wondering if this is in his bag of tricks that he can go to in the NBA, cause it would be a great weapon since he is very good in the post and seems to be able to take many big men off the dribble.

[Stump]

True. I would say at the moment the Spurs have 0 chance of draft Favors at 20. And probably a 98% chance at signing Splitter. But still, who knows how the Spurs could trade for a Favors draft pick.
The Favors theory does not presume he will fall to #20. This would happen by trading Parker to NJ for a package including the #3 pick.

The Favors possibility could have no legs whatsoever. Or it could be a very legitimate. Only the SA and NJ front offices know.

[Stump]

:lol I was just making the point that we have no chance at the moment.

Still this will be a busy summer.
Fair enough.

After last season's Jefferson dud, I wonder how conservative the Spurs will act this offseason.

[SenorSpur]

I feel like there is a silver lining to both options, whether we get Tiago Splitter or Derrick Favors. I would be happy with either one of them. Either way, the Spurs would have another big to pair with Tim Duncan.

Tiago Splitter: If nothing else, we wouldn't be able to say it was a wasted draft pick if he comes over. He would have an immediate impact on the team, giving Tim Duncan the best center he has played with since David Robinson, and the Spurs the much-needed interior presence to go along with TD. No need to go into details about the tools Splitter would bring to the team, because there are enough threads about him on here that already do that.

Derrick Favors: If the Spurs can somehow get Favors, that would also be a huge plus. With me living in Alabama, I got a chance to see a pretty good bit of his games at Georgia Tech, and liked what I saw. He has a nice combination of length, athleticism, quickness, good awareness for somebody as young as he is, and is a pretty good defender and should be one of the best in the league with some polishing. From what I heard from the announcers, he also has a good work ethic, and that's a neccesity for being a Spur. He supposedly fits the profile of what the Spurs have been looking for since David Robinson retired, and could potentially take over for Tim Duncan as the franchise player one day.

I'm well aware that Derrick Favors is a project, but I like his chances of becoming a dominant big man one day if he comes to the Spurs mainly for 2 reasons:

1.) He would be mentored by the G.O.A.T. power forward; a top 10 all-time great regardless of position.

2.) Since he wouldn't be going to a losing team, there wouldn't be any ridiculous expectations for him. He could be a difference maker without the pressure of carrying the team. I believe that's a major factor in why the success rate for high draft picks is so low.


Like I said, I would be happy with either move if for no other reason than Tim Duncan having a legit big man next to him. But the more I read and hear about the possibilty of the Spurs trading up to get Derrick Favors, no matter how big or small that possibility might be, the more I'm in favor of that happening. The big question, and the key to making that happen obviously is what they would have to give up to make that happen. I do rememember several years back either Peter Holt or R.C. Buford saying that the Spurs planned on using TD in the David Robinson role toward the end of his career.

I strongly believe that if you have any kind of chance to get a potential franchise big man, you at least have to look into it. The more things change, the more they stay the same. In other words, as much as the game has changed over the years, one thing has remained constant: The way to build your team is from the inside out. The league might be a guard-driven league and all that, but you won't win a championship without a dominant (or highly skilled) big man. Here are a couple of stats as proof:

-56 out of the 64 NBA champions (including the current NBA Finals teams) have had a dominant/high skill big man- either a center or power forward.

-35 out the 55 league MVPs have went to either a center or power forward.


One other thing, I know I'm preaching to the chior on this one, but obviously the workload on Tim Duncan is way to much. It's making him look older than what he is. I feel like even at 34 years old, with a dependable center next to him, he could still be dominant. Here is the way I see it:

The lack of another dependable big has led to TD playing most of the game these days as the sole big on the floor. Which means that in addition to the normal 20/10 he puts up, he also has to help make up for the 10 rebounds a game they lose from not having that other big next to him. He also has to guard the best big on the floor for the other team, and block all the shots.

With him being the only big on the floor most of the time, that means the Spurs are going small. When they go small, that means Richard Jefferson moves over to power forward. As a result, you are asking him not only to get the normal 6 rebounds expected from a small forward, but split the center's rebounds with Tim Duncan. It's unrealistic to expect that to happen every night. So in essence, TD is having to give production for both post positions which again, at his age and miles he has, is too much for him, and that's why he wears down after the All-Star break.


The Spurs need to go back to the Twin Tower approach, that's what got them the championships in the first place. Whether they get Tiago Splitter or Derrick Favors, they need another big in there with TD in the worst way, along with a peremeter defender. This is just how I see it.

Great post, Thomas82. :toast

[yavozerb]

Barcelona has a couple of good defensive 7 footer with NDong and Vasquez. Splitter will face quality defenders.

BTW, schedule of the finale (San Antonio time):
Game 1: @Barcelona June 10th 1:30pm
Game 2: @ Barcelona June 12th 11:00am
Game 3: @Caja June 15th 1:30pm
Game 4*: @Caja June 17th 1:30pm
Game 5*: @Barcelona June 19th 11:00am

*: if necessary

bump

[rayray2k8]

Hope someone post a link to the game later on. Not sure where to look. :P

[ace3g]

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/329

game link

[admiralsnackbar]

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/329

game link

Much appreciated :toast

[ace3g]

no problem

[ace3g]

game is about to start

[ace3g]

Splitter loses to the tip to NDong

[ace3g]

Caja gets off to a fast start 10-0 lead.

[TheSpurglar]

So I'm watching this game off and on. It's 18-10 with CL in the lead. I've got a question for the board posters... does it seem like Splitter sets a lot of illegal picks? He seems to be moving quite a bit on some of them. Part of that might be the fact that the guard he's working with is making a move before Tiago gets there, but it seems like they get away with it a lot. Is this just a difference between the NBA and European game? Or do they just not really call it? Or am I exaggerating what I'm seeing?

If I'm not, I really think this is something Splitter is going to have to work on if he comes to the Spurs next year.

[TimmehC]

Anyone have a box score? Can't view the live stream at work.

[Mel_13]

http://jornadavirtual.acb.com/htm/resumen/r329.htm

[ace3g]

So I'm watching this game off and on. It's 18-10 with CL in the lead. I've got a question for the board posters... does it seem like Splitter sets a lot of illegal picks? He seems to be moving quite a bit on some of them. Part of that might be the fact that the guard he's working with is making a move before Tiago gets there, but it seems like they get away with it a lot. Is this just a difference between the NBA and European game? Or do they just not really call it? Or am I exaggerating what I'm seeing?

If I'm not, I really think this is something Splitter is going to have to work on if he comes to the Spurs next year.

Yeah I noticed that as well. He usually rolls off the screen to the basket instead of making the pick and waiting for the kick back pass.

I'm not sure what how screens are ruled in the ACB?

[TimDunkem]

Wow.
Nice hook shot from Splitter!

[TIMMYD!]

Wow.
Nice hook shot from Splitter!

Yeah, it was an extremely tough shot.

[Bruno]

In Europe, referring is way less strict than in NBA when it comes to what happens off the ball. There are a lot of moving screens and grabbing.

[Mel_13]

So I'm watching this game off and on. It's 18-10 with CL in the lead. I've got a question for the board posters... does it seem like Splitter sets a lot of illegal picks? He seems to be moving quite a bit on some of them. Part of that might be the fact that the guard he's working with is making a move before Tiago gets there, but it seems like they get away with it a lot. Is this just a difference between the NBA and European game? Or do they just not really call it? Or am I exaggerating what I'm seeing?

If I'm not, I really think this is something Splitter is going to have to work on if he comes to the Spurs next year.

It is. I'm not well-versed on the details, but it is something that is often mentioned as part of the adjustment from Europe to the NBA. Some screens that are perfectly legally in Europe are offensive fouls in the NBA.

[TimDunkem]

Splitter has great body control. He kept the ball away from his defenders in mid-air with one hand to finish off a play.

[TheSpurglar]

It is. I'm not well-versed on the details, but it is something that is often mentioned as part of the adjustment from Europe to the NBA. Some screens that are perfectly legally in Europe are offensive fouls in the NBA.

That's somewhat discouraging, since it appears to be such a large part of his game. One of the nice things that's been said about acquiring Splitter instead of trading up for a rookie big man was that Tiago's so polished offensively and defensively already, but it's pretty obvious he's still going to need to be coached up quite a bit once he comes over.

[ace3g]

Tiago loves that hook shot: 1 possession he got blocked, the very next possession he came back with the hook again and made it

[ace3g]

Rubio finally scores

[ace3g]

well Caja just blew their lead

[TimDunkem]

He plays in a different league, of course there will be some adjustments to be made.

[Mel_13]

That's somewhat discouraging, since it appears to be such a large part of his game. One of the nice things that's been said about acquiring Splitter instead of trading up for a rookie big man was that Tiago's so polished offensively and defensively already, but it's pretty obvious he's still going to need to be coached up quite a bit once he comes over.

There will be an adjustment to be sure, but Splitter appears to be a smart player. Scola in 2007 and Marc Gasol in 2008 both had very productive rookie seasons.

[ace3g]

exactly there will always be adjustments, but the competition he plays with is much better then any rookie coming out of college

[TheSpurglar]

He plays in a different league, of course there will be some adjustments to be made.

Yes. I know. I'm just saying that it's somewhat disappointing that arguably the biggest aspect of his offensive game would most likely be called an offensive foul if he attempted it in the United States.

[ace3g]

and like others have said he plays a lot more on the perimeter right now, that will change when he gets to the Spurs

[TheSpurglar]

There will be an adjustment to be sure, but Splitter appears to be a smart player. Scola in 2007 and Marc Gasol in 2008 both had very productive rookie seasons.

True enough. I never watched those two play international basketball, but if they were setting the same types of screens and were able to adjust once they arrived in the NBA, perhaps I'm picking nits for no reason. Believe me, I'm definitely pulling both for Splitter to come to the Spurs and have a positive impact.

[TimDunkem]

Yes. I know. I'm just saying that it's somewhat disappointing that arguably the biggest aspect of his offensive game would most likely be called an offensive foul if he attempted it in the United States.
I'm sure he'll learn to adjust.

[TheSpurglar]

and like others have said he plays a lot more on the perimeter right now, that will change when he gets to the Spurs

Do you just mean because of the contrast in styles of play between the leagues? I'd imagine the Spurs would utilize his pick and roll ability pretty frequently on offense, just not as much as Caja Laboral does because no NBA team does that.

I assume Splitter is better finishing on the move at this point than he is working his offense in the post, but I really don't know for sure because I haven't seen it.

[ace3g]

Tiago had 12 pts and 3 boards at the half,

2nd half about to begin

[TheSpurglar]

I'm sure he'll learn to adjust.

:toast I certainly hope you're right. Just commenting on what I'm actually seeing during the game.

[ace3g]

Rubio just missed a dunk, lol

[ace3g]

Tiago showing why he destined to be a Spur

[TimDunkem]

Splitter finally gets a touch down low..

[ace3g]

nice basket by Splitter to tie the game

[TimDunkem]

Rubio is playing awful....only 3 points with 0 assists so far.

[ace3g]

Caja up 58-56

[ace3g]

lol that clearly went off the Caja player's foot

[ace3g]

game over Caja win 63-58

game ended on a sloppy note though.

Splitter: 16 pts 6 boards

[ace3g]

http://jornadavirtual.acb.com/htm/resumen/r329.htm

final boxscore

[Mel_13]

Impressive achievement for CL to take HCA in Game 1. Barcelona's combined regular season and playoff record in ACB and Euroleague play was 59-5 entering tonight's game.

Exciting finish, sloppy as it was..

[Bruno]

Caja winning @Barca is a damn big surprise.

Splitter was good even if he had some difficulties against Vasquez and NDong length.

[Libri]

Rubio is playing awful....only 3 points with 0 assists so far.

But he's supposed to be the next Pistol Pete. lol

[Chieflion]

Couldn't catch European games because it was midnight here. Judging by the statline and the win, Splitter had yet another solid performance.

[ChumpDumper]

NDong length.

[Blackjack]

That's an All-SpursTalker, people! :lmao

[ace3g]

just thought about this, Does Splitter have a nickname?

[Blackjack]

Kutcher, William-Scott, Douche ... that's what I've heard thrown around.

But, really, with a name like Splitter, does the guy really need one (although Douche is catchy)?

[ace3g]

yeah Splitter works, just wondering if he ever had one while playing over in the ACB or on the Brazil team

[yavozerb]

Barcelona has a couple of good defensive 7 footer with NDong and Vasquez. Splitter will face quality defenders.

BTW, schedule of the finale (San Antonio time):
Game 1: @Barcelona June 10th 1:30pm
Game 2: @ Barcelona June 12th 11:00am
Game 3: @Caja June 15th 1:30pm
Game 4*: @Caja June 17th 1:30pm
Game 5*: @Barcelona June 19th 11:00am

*: if necessary

[Chieflion]

Is Splitter's game on in 55 minutes or something? I need time translation.

[Mel_13]

Is Splitter's game on in 55 minutes or something? I need time translation.

yes

[Chieflion]

yes

Thanks a lot. I am going to watch Splitter for the first time live on the computer, so I feel a bit pumped up. And Ricky Rubio as well. Hope the both of them have a great game.

[Mel_13]

Game 2 link:

http://acb360.orange.es/diferidos/LACB/54/330

[ace3g]

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/330

game link

[ace3g]

beat me to it mel

[ace3g]

nice pass from splitter

[Chieflion]

Nice pass by Splitter.

[Chieflion]

Splitter is a really good passer.

[TimmehC]

Caja's substitution patterns are weird. Tiago came in for one possession on each end before being removed again. It's not like he's in foul trouble, either.

[Chieflion]

Tiago with a total dud performance up till now.

[ffadicted]

Splitter's gotta get in the lane, wtf

[MaNu4Tres]

Horrible 3 calls in a row...

[TimDunkem]

His first bad statline in a while and people are already jumping on him.

lol I can't wait until he's a Spur. :lol

[ffadicted]

so umm what's this series at now anyway

[ffadicted]

LMAO what a fucking pass....

[ace3g]

another sloppy end to the game

[Chieflion]

Caja with a hard fought win over Barcelona. I believe the series is 2-0 in favor of Caja now.

[ace3g]

geez Caja wins 70-69 but that was much closer due to the refs

[Mel_13]

Crazy ending. Caja now goes home needing one win for the title.

[TimDunkem]

I thought Ricky had the court vision of Pistol Pete?

[Shastafarian]

I thought Ricky had the court vision of Pistol Pete?

Maybe everyone meant he had the court vision of 90's Pistol Pete

[Bruno]

If Caja win a third game and and up as ACB champion it will be a huge upset. On the paper, Barca is the best team by far.

[DesignatedT]

What a game lol.

[Mel_13]

When are the Euro League finals?

Last month. Barcelona won.

[TIMMYD!]

Anyone got a boxscore?

[Mel_13]

http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB54330.php

[ace3g]

http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB54330.php

[TIMMYD!]

Thanks.

[ChuckD]

Maybe everyone meant he had the court vision of 90's Pistol Pete

The court vision of a dead man? That's cold....

[kobyz]

Spurs should sign San Emeterio

[Blackjack]

www.WeNeedTiago.com

Tiago, I'd appreciate a moment of your time to read this. It concerns the future of your basketball career. This is very important.

Why the San Antonio Spurs?

Keep Reading (http://www.poundingtherock.com/2010/6/11/1513730/www-weneedtiago-com)

[TimDunkem]

lol Someone send that to his Twitter. :lol

[TIMMYD!]

www.WeNeedTiago.com

Tiago, I'd appreciate a moment of your time to read this. It concerns the future of your basketball career. This is very important.

Why the San Antonio Spurs?

Keep Reading (http://www.poundingtherock.com/2010/6/11/1513730/www-weneedtiago-com)

Is that the same completely deck from here?
Haven't seen him post in a while...

[Blackjack]

Thought the same thing. Probably is.

I just saw it linked on Twitter and found the www.WeNeedTiago.com amusing.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If Caja win a third game and and up as ACB champion it will be a huge upset. On the paper, Barca is the best team by far.

Totally.

I really hope Caja seal this so Splitter can call it a done deal and head in our direction. Time for this guy to play NBA.

[ace3g]

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/331

game link

[DesignatedT]

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/331

game link

this is game 3 correct? with caja being up 2-0"?

[TimDunkem]

this is game 3 correct? with caja being up 2-0"?
Yes.

[yavozerb]

What does REC stand for in the box score?

[Bruno]

What does REC stand for in the box score?

steal.

[TIMMYD!]

I hate that they rarely go to Splitter in the post.

[yavozerb]

steal.
Thanks...


I hate that they rarely go to Splitter in the post.

Splitter gets collapsed on pretty quickly when they do go to him and his passes out of the post have been really good with some leading to baskets and others missing easy shots.

[TimDunkem]

Walter Herrmann!

[TimDunkem]

Looks like Caja Laboral is going to sweep Barca. :wow

[TimDunkem]

Nevermind. Maybe not. J.C. Navarro 3 points PLUS the foul. :depressed

[TimDunkem]

Overtime.

[Mel_13]

That was goaltending.

[TimDunkem]

Huertas takes so damn long to get rid of the ball.

[TimDunkem]

lol Splitter with hook shots, flops, and tip-ins in overtime.

[TIMMYD!]

What a great play!

San Emeterio with the And-1 and .5 seconds left.

[MaNu4Tres]

:lol unbelievable game..wow

[bobby4germany]

What a finish!!!!

[TIMMYD!]

Caja Laboral won the championship.

[Mel_13]

Splitter Watch 2010 may now officially begin!

[TimDunkem]

SAN EMETERIO with a cross over, drive to the basket, and the and-1 with 0.5 left on the shot clock! Caja wins in OT.

What a finish. :lol

[yavozerb]

That was pretty crazy ending..

[yavozerb]

Tiago as MVP?

[Bruno]

What a fucking damn mazing game.
Caja sweeping Barca. :wow

[velik_m]

Congrats to Splitter!

[TIMMYD!]

Tiago as MVP.

[Mal]

Thiago, mission acomplished. Next year NBA finals MVP :)

[yavozerb]

Great statline from Tiago:
14 pts, 13 rbs, 4 assists, 4 steals, 2 blocks

[Blackjack]

Very impressive. :tu

Ya gotta love that his confidence should be at a newfound, all-time high upon his arrival. :hungry:

[rayray2k8]

game link?? I hope theres a replay

[Mel_13]

Time to put the money on table, R.C.

[TIMMYD!]

What ever val means, Tiago had 36 and the next highes was only 21. :wow

I'd be even more impressed if I knew what this meant!

It's like +/-

[Bruno]

What ever val means, Tiago had 36 and the next highes was only 21. :wow

I'd be even more impressed if I knew what this meant!

val is efficiency. It's a stat that is used way more in Europe than in NBA.

[Mal]

What ever val means, Tiago had 36 and the next highes was only 21. :wow

I'd be even more impressed if I knew what this meant!

Val is stat based on :

Pts + rbs + ast + blks + stls + fouls draw

- Turnovers - missed shots - fouls commited (not sure about last one).

[Mel_13]

game link?? I hope theres a replay

Wait a couple of hours and then use the same link:

http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/331

They are still showing the celebration, but the game will be available later this afternoon.

[pad300]

Give Splitter the full MLE, quick. Do not fuck around with signing him on the cheap... Get it done! He's a big game player, and might be able to be the big man after Tim retires. GET HIM OVER HERE!

[objective]

"But he can't spread the floor like Bonner! And how can he play next to Duncan with so few blocks and suspect rebounding? And the Spurs shouldn't set a precedent by paying so much to a 1st rounder freed from payscale obligations!" --- idiots

Sorry, had to get that out of the way.

If Pop and RC aren't in Spain then shame on them.

[yavozerb]

Those who have doubts about splitters ability need to watch this game. Did a little of everything, only thing he did wrong was miss a 3pt shot in the 2nd half..

[Blackjack]

I've heard tings. I've heard tings . . .

[Bruno]

A little trivia:
Only one other player has won both ACB MVP titles (regular season and final) in the same year: Arvydas Sabonis in 1995. Not bad... :smokin

[Blackjack]

A little trivia:
Only one other player has won both ACB MVP titles (regular season and final) in the same year: Arvydas Sabonis in 1995. Not bad... :smokin

Bruno, what good is trivia if we don't get a chance to answer?

You'd be a terrible Alex Trebek. :smokin

[yavozerb]

Hopefully we wont have wait as long to see Tiago play since the blazers couldn't get sabonis over here till he was much older..

[DesignatedT]

So did Splitter get finals MVP?

[Spurs Brazil]

Props to Tiago now don't be a coward and come to San Antonio

[Bruno]

Do you think he knows who Alex Trebek is?

Quick, show some celebrity Joepardy videos!

FYI, in France, the Jeopardy guy was Phillipe Risoli. He is also one of the all time greatest French speaking singer with classics like "cuitas les bananas".

[Blackjack]

Do you think he knows who Alex Trebek is?

Quick, show some celebrity Joepardy videos!

The French know Alex Trebek.

http://500wordsonwords.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/alextrebek.jpg

And The Trebek knows the French ...

http://cakepoker.com/blog/En/image.axd?picture=2010/1/trebek-wants-you-jeopardy-online-contest.jpg

ladies (and/or maybe men).