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Kori Ellis
03-23-2005, 01:08 AM
Brown adds name to list of hurt Spurs
Web Posted: 03/23/2005 12:00 AM CST

Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA032305.1C.BKNspurs.pacers.adv.164bdc8e3.html

INDIANAPOLIS — The Spurs touched down Tuesday afternoon with more baggage than players, eager to end a three-game trip that so far has produced only a pair of losses and a hefty MRI bill.

Having lost Brent Barry's iPod in Madison Square Garden, the team left behind Devin Brown as well. The Spurs had begun to lean more heavily on Brown the past two weeks but could no longer depend on his back, so they sent him home for treatment.

Brown, who has had occasional back trouble the past three seasons, will undergo an MRI this morning. He first felt pain Sunday in Detroit while warming up.

Brown played 31 minutes and scored 18 points in the loss to the Pistons, but he was in enough discomfort Monday in New York to begin the game lying on his stomach in front of the team's bench. He briefly received treatment in the locker room during the fourth quarter before finishing with 22 points and eight rebounds. Afterward, he struggled to sit upright in front of his locker.

So, for the second time in three days, the Spurs are left to wait on test results from San Antonio. Tim Duncan, still on crutches Tuesday morning, is expected to miss the next two to four weeks after re-spraining his right ankle Sunday.

"We are who we are," coach Gregg Popovich said. "We'll win a game or we'll lose a game."

The Spurs haven't won much without Duncan. In the five games he's missed this season, they're 1-4.

Phoenix also has moved ahead in the race for the Western Conference's top playoff seed — a goal that carries far less importance for the Spurs given their other concerns.

"I don't think Miami is going to go far without Shaq," Popovich said. "We're not going to go too far without Timmy. I don't think Phoenix is going to go far without (Steve) Nash.

"When you lose those kind of guys, it's a big hit as far as what your final goal is. But it doesn't mean you can't still win games."

Popovich tried to deliver that message when the team met Monday in New York: "If we're not whole," he told the players, "let's play wholeheartedly."

For 21/2 quarters against the Knicks, the Spurs did that. Then they failed to make a basket for 11 minutes, 23 seconds. After only four turnovers in the first half, they had 13 in the second.

"We have to do what we do but do it better," Barry said. "Take care of the ball better, defend better, rebound better, execute better. And, in some of our cases, shoot the ball better."

Barry and Bruce Bowen have combined to miss all 11 3-point attempts in the past three games. Tony Parker made six consecutive shots in the first 51/2 minutes Monday then didn't attempt another until the half's final possession. He ended the evening missing nine in a row.

With Brown unavailable, the team will have to depend more on Barry and Manu Ginobili. After returning from a five-game absence, Ginobili totaled 37 minutes in his first back-to-back games in six weeks.

"We're going to have to grind it out the next couple of weeks," Barry said.

Tonight's opponent won't have much sympathy. The Indiana Pacers lost their best player, Jermaine O'Neal, to a season-ending shoulder injury this month. NBA commissioner David Stern also recently turned down their request to shorten Ron Artest's suspension.

With point guard Jamaal Tinsley also in and out of the lineup, Indiana has had a full roster of 12 players available for only 16 of its 66 games.

The Spurs, who already have qualified for the playoffs, also think they still can hold off Dallas in the race for the Southwest Division title even if Duncan returns later rather than sooner.

"We know we can win without him," Ginobili said. "But we have to realize it's not going to be easy. We're going to have to work our ends off and play as a team and be more solid than ever.

"We have to be all like one, helping each other, trying to make the guy next to you better. So we can all feel confident."

whottt
03-23-2005, 03:43 AM
We're going to have to work our ends off

:lol

I love it when guys from other countries start trying to use colloquial expressions...It produces some of the funniest quotes ever :)

T Park
03-23-2005, 12:12 PM
"We have to do what we do but do it better," Barry said. "Take care of the ball better, defend better, rebound better, execute better. And, in some of our cases, shoot the ball better."

Practice what you fuckin preach.

benjirh
03-23-2005, 12:19 PM
Practice what you fuckin preach.

He is talking about himself. That is what he means by "in some of our cases". I fully believe he realizes what he is not doing and how crappy he is shooting.

T Park
03-23-2005, 12:21 PM
Take care of the ball better, defend better, rebound better, execute better

Im also applying this to him.

execute better means when you go to the basket, SHOOT THE DAMN LAYUP!!!

Dont pass out it out like a girl.

benjirh
03-23-2005, 12:26 PM
I'll give you that. They always talk about FT's giving a guy in a shooting slump more confidence. With Barry being such a good FT shooter. Maybe he just needs to get to the line more.

Rick Von Braun
03-23-2005, 01:30 PM
Im also applying this to him.

execute better means when you go to the basket, SHOOT THE DAMN LAYUP!!!

Dont pass out it out like a girl.TPark,

Relax... he knows he is not performing...

With Brown not playing and Manu still recovering from injury, I predict (hope) a BIG game by Brent.

Streakyshooter08
03-23-2005, 02:33 PM
I would start Brent. Since he has been comming off the bench again he hasn't hit a shot. In these times you have to try everything that makes the team better. With manu playing limited minutes there should not be a problem with him comming of the bench.

Ballcox
03-23-2005, 02:53 PM
I've got a question about Brent, what happened the Brent Barry that won the dunk contest? I know the guy is older and his skills have diminshed some, but damn, take the ball to the hole SOMETIMES. I think if he put a little more variety in his game, he wouldn't have some of the current problems he's having with guys up in his face expecting the jump shot. To me, he seems to have decent quickness, he's tall, should still have at least marginally good hops, just mix it up a little Brent!

respect the 'fro :fro

baseline bum
03-23-2005, 04:32 PM
As disappointed as I am in Barry and as pissed as I've been these last few games, it's hard for me to really dislike the guy. He doesn't make excuses like so many others would. I just wish he'd pull his freaking head out his ass and hit a shot or something.

cherylsteele
03-23-2005, 04:52 PM
Im also applying this to him.

execute better means when you go to the basket, SHOOT THE DAMN LAYUP!!!

Dont pass out it out like a girl.

You know...this can also apply to Rasho as well......but instead of layup....DUNK THE BALL ALREADY!!.....someone called his shot a "fairy float"....kinda fits.

It can also apply to the whole team.....not just Barry and Rasho.....I just hope that this adversity can really help in the playoffs.....I have a hunch it will.

T Park
03-23-2005, 05:10 PM
I knew you would bring up Rasho Cheryl seeing as you have this childlike stupid hate for him.

Amazing every loss, there is Pop and Rasho threads.

Hilarious.



this can also apply to Rasho as well

What can appy to him, shoot the ball??

Kind of tough when your coach doesn't run that many plays for you.



someone called his shot a "fairy float"[QUOTE]


Oh yay, im sure that NBA player could teach rasho a thing or two as well.



classic. The guy taht said that prob couldn't dribble a basketball let alone play in the NBA.

cherylsteele
03-23-2005, 06:32 PM
I knew you would bring up Rasho Cheryl seeing as you have this childlike stupid hate for him.

Amazing every loss, there is Pop and Rasho threads.

Hilarious.




What can appy to him, shoot the ball??

Kind of tough when your coach doesn't run that many plays for you.



Oh yay, im sure that NBA player could teach rasho a thing or two as well.



classic. The guy taht said that prob couldn't dribble a basketball let alone play in the NBA.

I don't hate him....being childish is what you are doing by just getting mad when someone disagrees with your POV.

It applies that he should play smart...be more aggressive....this will get him to the line more....and make a better percentage....play smarter all around.....show up the whole game, not just in the first quarter....make his free throws....44.4% is not good enough....we need an inside force....sure Barry has disappointed......we have a deeper bench in the areas of 2' and 3's and alas, more options there....being a starter, Rasho needs to step it up more.....stat lines aren't the bottom line.....just ask Lebron, 56 pts and still lost......actually Rasho's worst weakness is rebounding...especially in crunch time.....sure he had 11 vs. NYK, but he only averages 6.7/gm....for a starting center that is well below par.

boutons
03-23-2005, 07:08 PM
Did I hear on SA TV news that Devin is out for 10 - 14 days? 5 games minimum?

kolko
03-23-2005, 07:13 PM
Did I hear on SA TV news that Devin is out for 10 - 14 days? 5 games minimum?

Put him on IL and activate Linton Johnson III.

td4mvp21
03-23-2005, 07:20 PM
Is Duncan out for the season FOR SURE or is that just being cautious?

Kori Ellis
03-23-2005, 07:44 PM
Pop said they hope Duncan will be coming back with five games or so left in the season.

Kori Ellis
03-23-2005, 07:44 PM
Did I hear on SA TV news that Devin is out for 10 - 14 days? 5 games minimum?

They said that during the game, but they said they will know more in 2-3 days.

slayermin
03-23-2005, 08:01 PM
Is Duncan out for the season FOR SURE or is that just being cautious?

I think it all depends on how Tim feels. After watching the replay of his injury a few times, he could be fine in two weeks. But I think, he should wear a brace or tape up his ankle, if he does play.

If he doesn't add support, missing the reg. season is the only way to strenghen that ankle to make it through the playoffs.