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Ditty
04-29-2009, 02:21 AM
Kill Bill is probably going to get all hard about this guy, and alot of yall think he sucks but i say he could replace oberto i think he is alright couldn't be worse than oberto offensively

http://images.beijing2008.cn/20080626/Img214420679.jpg

Manufan909
04-29-2009, 02:44 AM
Isn't he supposed to be really athletic? Couldn't hurt, with KT, Bonner, and Ian the only guaranteed backups for Timmy next season.

Ditty
04-29-2009, 06:34 PM
yah he is pretty good

next scola with a 3 pooint shot

Manufan909
04-29-2009, 06:48 PM
yah he is pretty good

next scola with a 3 pooint shot

You've followed him somewhat?

Ditty
04-29-2009, 06:52 PM
You've followed him somewhat?

seen him play

if he had orbertos IQ

he would defintly be twice as better as scola a better rebounder and block shot

im on his bandwagon

Manufan909
04-29-2009, 06:59 PM
seen him play

if he had orbertos IQ

he would defintly be twice as better as scola a better rebounder and block shot

im on his bandwagon

He isn't Gooden dumb is he?

Ditty
04-29-2009, 07:03 PM
He isn't Gooden dumb is he?

no but he's a hell of a shot blocker and a huge wingspan

Manufan909
04-29-2009, 08:21 PM
You think the cons in the draft express thing is still true? Has he been looking like a fish out of water lately?

Ditty
04-29-2009, 09:26 PM
You think the cons in the draft express thing is still true? Has he been looking like a fish out of water lately?

that was 3 years ago man

hes approved so much since then

024
04-29-2009, 09:55 PM
Isn't he supposed to be really athletic? Couldn't hurt, with KT, Bonner, and Ian the only guaranteed backups for Timmy next season.

according to that scouting report, he isn't athletic at all.

Mal
04-30-2009, 04:32 AM
Big guy with three point shoot. I have no idea is he tough enough to play NBA center on defens. He is offensive minded. Good one to replace Oberto. But does he said he want go to NBA ?

Ditty
04-30-2009, 08:17 PM
Big guy with three point shoot. I have no idea is he tough enough to play NBA center on defens. He is offensive minded. Good one to replace Oberto. But does he said he want go to NBA ?

apperantly he wants to play for with us or houston

TheProfessor
04-30-2009, 08:31 PM
apperantly he wants to play for with us or houston
Is that from a reliable source, or KBP?

stéphane
05-01-2009, 04:44 PM
He's really good and has a tremendous outside shot for his size. We all know how Pop love the spacing provided by this type of player.

TimDunkem
05-01-2009, 05:50 PM
He'll be playing in the FF this year; The Spurs will be watching him closely.

Ditty
05-01-2009, 10:18 PM
i hope the spurs get him

Manufan909
05-06-2009, 03:17 AM
Is that from a reliable source, or KBP?

Beat me to it, dude.:lol Seems like in 3 other threads I asked whether people were going on KBPs posts or actually read something. So does anyone have an updated article on Yiannis? I hope he keeps up with the NBA and realizes the only sure bigs for next year on the Spurs is Tim, Ian, Matt, and Kurt. Only Tim will play more, but the Rockets have Yao, Scola, Dikembe, Landry, so there's undoubtedly more competition at his position there. Come on Yiannis, Pop loves foreigners like Madonna loves black men!!!
:flag:

jason1301
05-06-2009, 03:42 AM
yah he is pretty good

next scola with a 3 pooint shot

No I don't think he is as good as Scola.

Having said that, he is way better than Oberto!!! Yes Oberto has higher basketball IQ, but lets not forget he is much older and more experienced than Bourousis, and that's pretty much it. Under the guidance of Pop and Tim, he will do much better than Fab.

What makes him so intriguing prospect is his range, he can stretch the floor with his 3pt shooting meaning he will be ideal playing next to Duncan.

He worked on his outside shot the last two or three years! Assuming he keeps improving, once he comes to the NBA, he could be scary good for us.

angelbelow
05-06-2009, 03:56 AM
couldnt hurt :)

Manufan909
05-06-2009, 03:58 AM
No I don't think he is as good as Scola.

Having said that, he is way better than Oberto!!! Yes Oberto has higher basketball IQ, but lets not forget he is much older and more experienced than Bourousis, and that's pretty much it. Under the guidance of Pop and Tim, he will do much better than Fab.

What makes him so intriguing prospect is his range, he can stretch the floor with his 3pt shooting meaning he will be ideal playing next to Duncan.

He worked on his outside shot the last two or three years! Assuming he keeps improving, once he comes to the NBA, he could be scary good for us.

Isn't the 3pt shot shorter over in Europe? No matter what, he'll be an upgrade over every big but Tim and The Gist.

DAF86
05-06-2009, 10:35 AM
IMO he's better than Splitter.

Ditty
05-06-2009, 12:16 PM
i think he is as good as splitter not better than scola but could be better because he is younger than scola

i wonder what spurs can offer this kid contract wise

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-06-2009, 12:17 PM
His name is spelled Yiannis.

Here is his draft express profile.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Yiannis-Bouroussis-118/

You do not understand Greek language.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-06-2009, 12:18 PM
according to that scouting report, he isn't athletic at all.

Draftexpress is fucking idiots say he is not athletic. He is Carl Landry level in dunk ability.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-06-2009, 12:20 PM
Is that from a reliable source, or KBP?

It is reported in Greece for awhile now 10 NBA teams have already offered full MLE to him for this summer. He had first say he would like Spurs but nothing since then. Rockets came up because their GM went to meet him in Athens a few weeks ago.

benefactor
05-06-2009, 12:29 PM
It is reported in Greece for awhile now 10 NBA teams have already offered full MLEto him for this summer. He had first say he would like Spurs but nothing since then. Rockets came up because their GM went to meet him in Athens a few weeks ago.
Names of teams and sources or you are full of shit.

Ditty
05-06-2009, 12:58 PM
screw the mle

until he can prove he can play in the nba

give him the minimum of one year and then give him a MLE contract in 2010 when the spurs have money

Ditty
05-06-2009, 01:06 PM
I don't think you can offer the MLE if you are under the cap.

i know but give him a mle contract like 5 million a year would be good for him this kid is good i admit, but not be %100 answer

so give him one year here then resign him in 2010

espically if he wants to play with SA that bad

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-06-2009, 01:09 PM
Names of teams and sources or you are full of shit.

Fuck you. NO ONE has ever believe any Greek source here. I do not even want to waste time anymore on it. It just comes 100 posts of insults and racist comments against Greece.

TheProfessor
05-06-2009, 08:58 PM
Fuck you. NO ONE has ever believe any Greek source here. I do not even want to waste time anymore on it. It just comes 100 posts of insults and racist comments against Greece.
:lol Links please.

Oh, and if you actually have those sources, just google translate: http://translate.google.com/ .

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-09-2009, 01:48 PM
Reported in Greece........

Ioannis Bourousis has been offered contracts by Olympiacos (extension) Real Madrid, CSKA Moscow, Orlando Magic, Memphis Grizzlies, Golden State Warriors, and San Antonio Spurs. His decision will come soon, short time after Greek league playoff finals are finished.

:downspin::rollin:ihit

ace3g
05-09-2009, 03:08 PM
http://www.krepsinis.net/news.php?news_id=106714

here is a link I think, I tried translating it through yahoo and google, didn't turn out that well

"
Piraeus' Olympiacos' aukštaūgis Ioannis Bourousis proposal received the following season match Real Madrid team, published by the Greek press.

Spanish Greek offers a three-year contract, but the I. Bourousis is willing to extend the current contract with the team.

Reported that I. Bourousiu is also interested in and the San Antonio Spurs, "Auckland" Warriors "and the Memphis" Grizzlies' Clubs.

25 years 210 cm tall striker this season in the middle played 22 Euroleague games, through, on average, spent the parquet after 21 minutes, to earn 12.5 points, 7.4 atšokusio win back the ball and carried out fruitful 0.7 transmission."

lurker23
05-09-2009, 03:29 PM
25 years 210 cm tall striker this season in the middle played 22 Euroleague games, through, on average, spent the parquet after 21 minutes, to earn 12.5 points, 7.4 atšokusio win back the ball and carried out fruitful 0.7 transmission."

:lol

Mr.Bottomtooth
05-09-2009, 05:12 PM
:lol

yavozerb
05-09-2009, 07:13 PM
Here some footage of the guy, not bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfLG2bYlrrY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GugwXttv90c

Bruno
05-09-2009, 07:14 PM
No, thanks.

tav1
05-09-2009, 07:22 PM
He's a curiosity to me. He seems smart on the pick and roll and has range, two things that would make him a Popovich fascination. But I watched the recent Final Four and really question whether he has the defensive speed, foot and body, to play passable defense in the NBA. I'm not making a dogmatic pronouncement, but I think there is a chance he could be the Greek Jackie Butler. That's a lot of risk to take when his contract would eat valuable dollars and require multiple years.

biziofromdowntown
05-10-2009, 03:58 AM
Bouroussis isn't bad, but i go on Splitter for all my life

GioSugar
05-10-2009, 06:08 AM
Well, IMO, he will take an offer for 3-4m euros tax free per year from Olympiakos and stay here. I doubt that there is a team at nba to invest so much money for Bourousis

jason1301
05-10-2009, 06:12 AM
Well, IMO, he will take an offer for 3-4m euros tax free per year from Olympiakos and stay here. I doubt that there is a team at nba to invest so much money for Bourousis

You maybe right, but that 3-4mi offer from Olympiakos will always be there for him. He should take a pay cut in order to chase an NBA ring and improve his game playing alongside Tim Duncan.

GioSugar
05-10-2009, 06:38 AM
You maybe right, but that 3-4mi offer from Olympiakos will always be there for him. He should take a pay cut in order to chase an NBA ring and improve his game playing alongside Tim Duncan.

Yeah, that 's what he have to do if he wants to play at nba.
But the pay cut will be a large one. 3m € = 3.9m$ , 4m€ = 5,2m$ and Olympiakos also pay the tax.Let's say the tax is 10% , so Olympiakos offer 4,2-5,7m$.
Another factor is the playing time. He (Bourousis) probably wants to ensure that he have at least 15m per game to accept a pay cut.
Thats my opinion and not what Bourousis will do.

I'm just trying to say that there are a few Greek players that could play at NBA ,Papaloukas, Diamantidis but they never want to. I also think that it's difficult to prove that spurs made an offer on Bourousis cause spurs never say on who player really are interesting in. There are rumors there and here and just rumors. I could say that those rumors are managers game for a larger contract from Olympiakos. IMO only Printezis will try to play at NBA , and there are a Canadian article (sry i can find right now) that Toronto is after him.

Anyway as i live in Greece , i could say that Bourousis is an aggessive C, good rebounder and blocker. He needs to work his post game and coach Giannakis works on that way.

jason1301
05-10-2009, 08:16 AM
Yeah, that 's what he have to do if he wants to play at nba.
But the pay cut will be a large one. 3m € = 3.9m$ , 4m€ = 5,2m$ and Olympiakos also pay the tax.Let's say the tax is 10% , so Olympiakos offer 4,2-5,7m$.
Another factor is the playing time. He (Bourousis) probably wants to ensure that he have at least 15m per game to accept a pay cut.
Thats my opinion and not what Bourousis will do.

I'm just trying to say that there are a few Greek players that could play at NBA ,Papaloukas, Diamantidis but they never want to. I also think that it's difficult to prove that spurs made an offer on Bourousis cause spurs never say on who player really are interesting in. There are rumors there and here and just rumors. I could say that those rumors are managers game for a larger contract from Olympiakos. IMO only Printezis will try to play at NBA , and there are a Canadian article (sry i can find right now) that Toronto is after him.

Anyway as i live in Greece , i could say that Bourousis is an aggessive C, good rebounder and blocker. He needs to work his post game and coach Giannakis works on that way.

Geia sou Ellada!!!

Bourousis, will lose tons of money the first year, and he is not going to have lots of playing time with SA, but he will improve his game, thats for granted, and that by itself worths the money IMHO. So even if he doesn't crack the rotation, his time is not wasted.

GioSugar
05-10-2009, 08:30 AM
Geia sou Ellada!!!

Bourousis, will lose tons of money the first year, and he is not going to have lots of playing time with SA, but he will improve his game, thats for granted, and that by itself worths the money IMHO. So even if he doesn't crack the rotation, his time is not wasted.

Geia sou File, na pernas kala
:clap

We will find out soon , it's always the same case. Money or a chance to play with the best of the world

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-10-2009, 12:05 PM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/176044

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sport-fm.gr%2Farticle%2F176044&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

TheProfessor
05-10-2009, 12:07 PM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/176044

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sport-fm.gr%2Farticle%2F176044&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
There we go, a translated article with info, thank you :tu

GioSugar
05-11-2009, 12:01 AM
New link from Greek, Miami offer guaranteed time for Bourousis. Interest from Spurs.

http://www.basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21295&Itemid=199

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketblog.gr%2Findex.php%3 Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D21295%2 6Itemid%3D199&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

Ditty
05-11-2009, 01:47 AM
i hope he signs but not for too much the best for the minimum for one year to see how he is in the nba

jason1301
05-11-2009, 06:08 AM
Let's hope he joins our Team, Miami is not a good place for him anyways.

GioSugar
05-11-2009, 06:25 AM
Let's hope he joins our Team, Miami is not a good place for him anyways.

Well if it's true, i don't see a reason to not sign for Miami. Guaranteed time for a pay cut + a chance to play with DWade.To good to be true. It's a long long summer....

jason1301
05-11-2009, 09:27 AM
Well if it's true, i don't see a reason to not sign for Miami. Guaranteed time for a pay cut + a chance to play with DWade.To good to be true. It's a long long summer....

Don't forget that V-Span also had guaranteed playing time with the Rockets, according to the teams' owners. And if you are old enough you will also remember, Stojan Vrankovic had guaranteed playing time, and they re-did his contract, or something to that extend.

Guaranteed time is pretty immature, if you ask me. D Wade is awesome but he is not the mentor Duncan is, also Spurs already have plenty European players, and they play more like a European team, its just a better situation all around.

Miami is still a young team, they are trying to build an identity and still figuring things out. Too much uncertainty if you ask me. Nothing beats the spurs as it concerns the way they develop players.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-11-2009, 01:23 PM
New link from Greek, Miami offer guaranteed time for Bourousis. Interest from Spurs.

http://www.basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21295&Itemid=199

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketblog.gr%2Findex.php%3 Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D21295%2 6Itemid%3D199&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

Hmm this is interesting because Heat have also made a good offer to Spanoulis.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Don't forget that V-Span also had guaranteed playing time with the Rockets, according to the teams' owners. And if you are old enough you will also remember, Stojan Vrankovic had guaranteed playing time, and they re-did his contract, or something to that extend.

Guaranteed time is pretty immature, if you ask me. D Wade is awesome but he is not the mentor Duncan is, also Spurs already have plenty European players, and they play more like a European team, its just a better situation all around.

Miami is still a young team, they are trying to build an identity and still figuring things out. Too much uncertainty if you ask me. Nothing beats the spurs as it concerns the way they develop players.

Yes but ALL American fans here will call you a liar for say this. They ALL say it is a lie that Spanoulis was promise guarantee play time. Even though it is well know fact they will keep argue and say it is a lie.

completely deck
05-12-2009, 02:42 PM
Hm, Kill_Bill_Pana can't decide on who to splooge on more, Spanoulis or Bourousis (this thread)

Manufan909
05-13-2009, 12:16 AM
Well if it's true, i don't see a reason to not sign for Miami. Guaranteed time for a pay cut + a chance to play with DWade.To good to be true. It's a long long summer....

I would assume the chance to play with one of the greatest bigs ever an learn from him would be a bigger sell, not to mention Tony and Manu.

GioSugar
05-13-2009, 01:59 AM
I would assume the chance to play with one of the greatest bigs ever an learn from him would be a bigger sell, not to mention Tony and Manu.

No doubt my friend. I just say that if he have an offer from Miami and only from Miami.

Manufan909
05-13-2009, 02:15 AM
No doubt my friend. I just say that if he have an offer from Miami and only from Miami.

Oh, I thought you were going by the rumors that Miami and SA expressed interest, but only the Heat guarenteed PT. I hope learning from the master trumps that in Bourasis's mind.

Mel_13
05-13-2009, 05:56 AM
Heat denies interest:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2009/05/freeagent-center-its-all-greek-to-heat.html

GioSugar
05-13-2009, 06:17 AM
Heat denies interest:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2009/05/freeagent-center-its-all-greek-to-heat.html

Thanks, that's why i said to good to be true.

Bruno
05-13-2009, 06:35 AM
European sports newspaper are quite unreliable. They like to throw tons of rumors and don't even check how solid is the rumor. You had to take everything with a big grain of salt.

Ditty
05-13-2009, 12:38 PM
Heat denies interest:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2009/05/freeagent-center-its-all-greek-to-heat.html

so that means the spurs have yet to give any inidcations that they want to sign this guy so it mean they will sign this guy :toast

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-13-2009, 02:50 PM
Heat deny interest because he turn them down.

TheProfessor
05-13-2009, 02:59 PM
Heat deny interest because he turn them down.
Sigh...link?

Manufan909
05-13-2009, 04:01 PM
Sigh... respectable link?

fify

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-13-2009, 05:14 PM
Sigh...link?

Like I say he is interested in Spurs. It is Olympiacos or Spurs for him.

TheProfessor
05-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Like I say he is interested in Spurs. It is Olympiacos or Spurs for him.
Source? Link? Divine inspiration? Making it up? Seeking attention?

Russ
05-13-2009, 09:22 PM
Source? Link? Divine inspiration? Making it up? Seeking attention?

People have to have a link to have an opinion?

Ditty
05-13-2009, 11:06 PM
Like I say he is interested in Spurs. It is Olympiacos or Spurs for him.

hope your right kill bill :toast

rayray2k8
05-14-2009, 12:05 AM
Source? Link? Divine inspiration? Making it up? Seeking attention?

He's making shit up, otherwise he would have posted something.
Bet you he'll post a link from a source quoting a source. :lol

TheProfessor
05-14-2009, 12:56 AM
People have to have a link to have an opinion?
He said Bourousis turned down the Heat and will choose between the Spurs and Olympiacos. He's citing it as fact, not opinion. Is it too much to ask that he source where he heard it from?

mountainballer
05-14-2009, 05:25 PM
He said Bourousis turned down the Heat and will choose between the Spurs and Olympiacos. He's citing it as fact, not opinion. Is it too much to ask that he source where he heard it from?
KBP source:
http://gnosticteachings.org/images/stories/myth/delphi-oracle.jpg

benefactor
05-14-2009, 05:36 PM
I am not sure what Bourousis is expecting, but he is not getting a guaranteed contract if we decide to sign him. No player that we bring in is a lock to fit in our system. He will have to accept something that is similar to the other camp/summer league/preseason prospects until he proves he will have value here.

D-ROB 50
05-14-2009, 06:09 PM
all I know is that killbill has been all about this guy for a long time and you guys keep giving him shit about it. Now that the spurs are showing real interest some spurs fans are jumping on the kb bandwagon. Apparently kb knows more shit than alot of us think he does. Well, whatever, i'm in keep me posted KBILL. fuck the haters

TheProfessor
05-14-2009, 08:14 PM
all I know is that killbill has been all about this guy for a long time and you guys keep giving him shit about it. Now that the spurs are showing real interest some spurs fans are jumping on the kb bandwagon. Apparently kb knows more shit than alot of us think he does. Well, whatever, i'm in keep me posted KBILL. fuck the haters
:lol This is his gimmick - he cites information from other boards and sources without crediting and pretends he knows what's going on. You've just bought into his schtick.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
:lol This is his gimmick - he cites information from other boards and sources without crediting and pretends he knows what's going on. You've just bought into his schtick.

WTF is this? I post about Bourousis here LONG AGO and BEFORE anyone mentions him to Spurs. I am the first and do not forget this.

TheProfessor
05-14-2009, 08:34 PM
WTF is this? I post about Bourousis here LONG AGO and BEFORE anyone mentions him to Spurs. I am the first and do not forget this.
Hey, if I see Bourousis over here next year, fantastic. And I'll give you credit for calling it in the "saviour" thread. But you have an absurdly bad track record and there's no reason to believe anything you say at this point.

TimDunkem
05-14-2009, 09:42 PM
KBP source:
http://gnosticteachings.org/images/stories/myth/delphi-oracle.jpg
Nice.

BG_Spurs_Fan
05-15-2009, 02:38 AM
Could be just me, but I get this irrational hatred for players like him only because of KBP's posts, he really doesn't make a positive case for any of the players he is defending.

At the same time I do realize that these players are good, that there's a chance for them to make it in the NBA and be productive, while not living up to the biased overrating KBP's feeding us with.

Pucho!!!
05-15-2009, 04:43 PM
Eh, I think he's got sum ability just concerned if it will translate well into the NBA. In those youtube clips, sumtimes he looks real good, which may be due to the undersized talent around him, but he does look like a player that would work well in the spurs system. Like sumone said earlier, sign him for 2 yrs for like around the LLE-type, or maybe alito more, of contract and make the 2nd yr a team option if he works out then give him an extension if not let him roam the global free agency

D-ROB 50
05-15-2009, 05:12 PM
regardless, dude looks bigger, faster, stronger, than anyone we have now
(anyone who's playing). I'd take this guy over Bonner or Oberto maybe even kt any day of the week.

objective
05-16-2009, 08:16 PM
what jersey number would he take if he was signed by the Spurs I wonder?

He can't have #9, that's for sure.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-16-2009, 08:21 PM
what jersey number would he take if he was signed by the Spurs I wonder?

He can't have #9, that's for sure.

He is #5 in national team I guess if Udoka is gone he can have this number.

objective
05-16-2009, 08:40 PM
Count me in on the Bourousis bandwagon!

I don't think he'll really fit next to Duncan as TD's mobility declines, but hey, he's like a much cheaper Chris Kaman!

Bourousis 4 lyfe!

intlspurshk
05-17-2009, 02:22 AM
Like I say he is interested in Spurs. It is Olympiacos or Spurs for him.

Very glad to hear that. But I also hope Ian to develop as a good center as nowaday NBA favours athletic players. Not sure IB can keep with the pace of the game even he is skilled.

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 12:56 PM
Scouting report says he'll never develop into a real player and the Spurs are better off with Bonner.. :bang
Fuck this guy, he will NEVER make it in the NBA.
He'll be washing the teams jockstraps and be the team water boy.
:lmao

GioSugar
05-17-2009, 03:17 PM
Scouting report says he'll never develop into a real player and the Spurs are better off with Bonner.. :bang
Fuck this guy, he will NEVER make it in the NBA.
He'll be washing the teams jockstraps and be the team water boy.
:lmao

:wow

Have you ever seen him playing?
He is better than Bonner my friend. Anyway , he have to play for the Greek po finals so we have to wait.

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 03:27 PM
Why do you idiots buy into what KBF says?
When he's on another team are you still gonna be on his nuts? :rolleyes
You act like as if you seen him play throughout his career. Do you live over there?
Fuck youtube videos, you gotta do better than that. Hell even I could make a mix of me playing
ball of shooting layups and trick shots! Does that make me NBA material? Depends on how well my mix is. :lol
Same goes for Bourousis.
Oh yeah and stfu noob. :toast

GioSugar
05-17-2009, 03:34 PM
Why do you idiots buy into what KBF says?
When he's on another team are you still gonna be on his nuts? :rolleyes
You act like as if you seen him play throughout his career. Do you live over there?
Fuck youtube videos, you gotta do better than that. Hell even I could make a mix of me playing
ball of shooting layups and trick shots! Does that make me NBA material? Depends on how well my mix is. :lol
Same goes for Bourousis.
Oh yeah and stfu noob. :toast

I love you too,veteran.
I live in Greece. I saw him this afternoon at tv and i have seen him , well career , yeh you could tell that. Every year , every match....
I actually live around 20 minutes far from Olympiakos stadium and i was born in a place 5 minutes away from there.

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 03:38 PM
You do??
That you KBF? :lol
Let me do an IP check.
Here's a link to sequ's favorite player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4W36VOEKq8&feature=related
Looks good in the mix, but he sucks..

jason1301
05-17-2009, 03:40 PM
Why do you idiots buy into what KBF says?
When he's on another team are you still gonna be on his nuts? :rolleyes
You act like as if you seen him play throughout his career. Do you live over there?
Fuck youtube videos, you gotta do better than that. Hell even I could make a mix of me playing
ball of shooting layups and trick shots! Does that make me NBA material? Depends on how well my mix is. :lol
Same goes for Bourousis.
Oh yeah and stfu noob. :toast

some of us have seen him play throughout his career, and we used to live in..... Greece, what you call... over there.

Bourousis is one the of best Euroleague has to offer, not a youtube sensation, but what would you know, since you haven't lived ....over there :blah

GioSugar
05-17-2009, 03:45 PM
You do??
That you KBF? :lol
Let me do an IP check.
Here's a link to sequ's favorite player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4W36VOEKq8&feature=related
Looks good in the mix, but he sucks..

How old are you my friend?
Check my ip check whatever you want. I live in Peristeri Athens Greek. I born at Pireus.I don't know who is that kbf. But you have to give a little respect to someone that you don't know.

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 03:46 PM
Alright, lets say for the sake of argument his skill level is close the to that of a middle school student. That's SOME skill. :lmao
The guy might be able to play, but he's a choker.
Link? Click below.
Don't buy the hype guys. :rolleyes

u8PW9iK_Ffc

Looks like the next Rasho Nesterovic to me..

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 03:49 PM
How old are you my friend?
Check my ip check whatever you want. I live in Peristeri Athens Greek. I born at Pireus.I don't know who is that kbf. But you have to give a little respect to someone that you don't know.

Where the hell you greek bastards coming from??
You sorta talk like KBF and I'm pretty sure it's you.
What the fuck does my age have to do anything how much this guy sucks? :lol
Need a crayon?

GioSugar
05-17-2009, 03:51 PM
Alright, lets say for the sake of argument his skill level is close the to that of a middle school student. That's SOME skill. :lmao
The guy might be able to play, but he's a choker.
Link? Click below.
Don't buy the hype guys. :rolleyes

u8PW9iK_Ffc

Looks like the next Rasho Nesterovic to me..

I don't have to buy anything. I 've seen him playing a hundreds of time. It's just my opinion. Could you discuss civilized or you still believe that i am that kbf something?

GioSugar
05-17-2009, 03:57 PM
Where the hell you greek bastards coming from??

:(

What's wrong with you?
Did i make you something?
Yeh i live in Greece , what;s the problem?
I can't understand your behavior my friend. I am really sorry, i can't understand your point. I just say that i know Bourousis cause i live in Greece.
Anyway, you have your opinion ,nice , but why you talk to me like that?

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 03:58 PM
I don't have to buy anything. I 've seen him playing a hundreds of time. It's just my opinion. Could you discuss civilized or you still believe that i am that kbf something?

If you don't like it, then stop replying. :rolleyes
When I see NBA scrubs soar in the Euro league, you become optimistic about how "skilled" their players are.
Want some stats?
http://www.nba.com/usabasketball2008/greece_20080814.html
NBA talent vs your "skilled" players.
They got their asses owned in last years Olympic games.

Waiting for a reply.
Come on now, give me something worth keeping me here and try to make sentence where
I can actually read whatever it is you're trying to say. :sleep

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 04:00 PM
:(

What's wrong with you?
Did i make you something?
Yeh i live in Greece , what;s the problem?
I can't understand your behavior my friend. I am really sorry, i can't understand your point. I just say that i know Bourousis cause i live in Greece.
Anyway, you have your opinion ,nice , but why you talk to me like that?

Go ask "Kill Bill Pana".

GioSugar
05-17-2009, 04:05 PM
Go ask "Kill Bill Pana".

Ok , i hope a moderator could check that i am not kill bill pana. It's really awful
to talk me like that cause you think that i am that guy.

rayray2k8
05-17-2009, 04:11 PM
Not attacking you directly, but you've yet to comment on my argument about team USA vs Greece.
Bourousis struggled and even KBP precious VSpan was held in check.
So that means im done here.
Bourousis wont be able to handle the NBA level. The guy couldn't even play well for his country, what makes you think he do well in the playoffs?

I'm out.

jason1301
05-17-2009, 04:14 PM
Go ask "Kill Bill Pana".


You my friend have been reported, and your logic is retarded. You bash Greeks b/c of KBP, yet you seem to believe that he is American...wtf?!!!!

please be respectful next time...

Peace

GioSugar
05-17-2009, 04:17 PM
Not attacking you directly, but you've yet to comment on my argument about team USA vs Greece.
Bourousis struggled and even KBP precious VSpan was held in check.
So that means im done here.
Bourousis wont be able to handle the NBA level. The guy couldn't even play well for his country, what makes you think he do well in the playoffs?

I'm out.

I just say he is a good player. Not TD. He could be a good role player. Maybe something like Kaman. That's all. USA is far better than our country, don't have to say something about that.And yeah there are more talented players at USA, no argument on that too.

benefactor
05-17-2009, 04:20 PM
From the post content I have seen from these guys since they have been here, I am persuaded that both of them are probably Greek.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-17-2009, 06:37 PM
Now you guys see why I get so frustrated and angry here all the time. This is how so many talk to you and how they act. They are so racist, so ignorant and rude. They are such ugly Americans some of the members here. It is very sad. The good Americans members here of course not like them but also never one time do they ever tell them to shut up and stop it.

Only ones I see do that are members from Argentina and the other countries.

rayray2k8
05-18-2009, 12:02 AM
Shut the fuck up "Jeff".
How's life in Houston you fucking loser?
Your act is getting old.

Manufan909
05-18-2009, 03:37 AM
Just to let all the true Greeks posters know(the 2 who rayray was attacking at least, despite those two not being hostile or rude in the slightest), rayray was being an obvious ass, he just couldn't see it, and is not a representative of American posters. Also, usually he is a decent guy, I'm not sure what crawled up his ass and died.

Oh, and sorry for KBP, the American troll that has ruined the rep of Greek posters for no discernable reason.

And directly to rayray, you can't really compare how foreigners did against the Redeem Team, no NBA team has an 10th of that teams skill, so it's a very unfair comparision. Having said that, players who did play well against the US(the young Aussie PG comes to mind) are truly special, or maybe just played out of their minds.

rayray2k8
05-18-2009, 02:51 PM
Just to let all the true Greeks posters know(the 2 who rayray was attacking at least, despite those two not being hostile or rude in the slightest), rayray was being an obvious ass, he just couldn't see it, and is not a representative of American posters. Also, usually he is a decent guy, I'm not sure what crawled up his ass and died.

Oh, and sorry for KBP, the American troll that has ruined the rep of Greek posters for no discernable reason.

And directly to rayray, you can't really compare how foreigners did against the Redeem Team, no NBA team has an 10th of that teams skill, so it's a very unfair comparision. Having said that, players who did play well against the US(the young Aussie PG comes to mind) are truly special, or maybe just played out of their minds.

First off, who asked you and stfu. :lmao
My beef is with KFP not you, but kudos for stepping in and helping the defenseless.
Second, Greece team did suck and you can't really say the same for other teams since the real overseas talent that made it over in the NBA (Scola, Nocioni, Gasol, Fernadez and others)
actually played well and are NBA worthy.
Who the hell called the world police? :rolleyes

TheProfessor
05-18-2009, 03:33 PM
First off, who asked you and stfu. :lmao
My beef is with KFP not you, but kudos for stepping in and helping the defenseless.
Second, Greece team did suck and you can't really say the same for other teams since the real overseas talent that made it over in the NBA (Scola, Nocioni, Gasol, Fernadez and others)
actually played well and are NBA worthy.
Who the hell called the world police? :rolleyes
The Greek team defeated us in the FIBA semi's not three years ago. Several Greek players could be contributors on an NBA team if given the opportunity (although a couple are past their prime). It is unfortunate that KBP has created such a toxic environment that people can't discuss this sensibly.

Manufan909
05-18-2009, 04:48 PM
First off, who asked you and stfu. :lmao
My beef is with KFP not you, but kudos for stepping in and helping the defenseless.
Second, Greece team did suck and you can't really say the same for other teams since the real overseas talent that made it over in the NBA (Scola, Nocioni, Gasol, Fernadez and others)
actually played well and are NBA worthy.
Who the hell called the world police? :rolleyes

I don't need to be asked retard, it's the internet, I can get in any conversation I please. Plus, you grouped in the real Greek posters with the fake troll one, so I felt like calling you out for being a jackass. Give Bourasis a chance, he is way younger than anyone you mentioned, except maybe for Rudy. Also, nice mentioning only players on the silver and bronze medal teams.

And since we're asking hypothetical questions, I have one: why are people compelled to be assholes online, when face-to-face they wouldn't be nearly so rude?:rolleyes

Bukefal
05-18-2009, 05:29 PM
From the post content I have seen from these guys since they have been here, I am persuaded that both of them are probably Greek.

They are all Greeks, even KBP. Dont be so harsh, for nothing. Yeah KBP had its own part in this, but doesnt mean they are bad or fake or whatever.

They are just joining now, a Greek wave, probably because of Bourousis in the spotlight with the spurs.

:toast

rayray2k8
05-18-2009, 06:11 PM
I don't need to be asked retard, it's the internet, I can get in any conversation I please. Plus, you grouped in the real Greek posters with the fake troll one, so I felt like calling you out for being a jackass. Give Bourasis a chance, he is way younger than anyone you mentioned, except maybe for Rudy. Also, nice mentioning only players on the silver and bronze medal teams.

And since we're asking hypothetical questions, I have one: why are people compelled to be assholes online, when face-to-face they wouldn't be nearly so rude?:rolleyes

You REALLY don't want to go there...
:lmao
You'd probably shit your pants when you see me.
But hey, wouldn't be the first time I'd do some exchanging in that, than in a forum, big man.
Let me ask you this? You feel real comfortable sitting there, saying that when you type?
Thought so.

benefactor
05-18-2009, 06:43 PM
They are all Greeks, even KBP. Dont be so harsh, for nothing. Yeah KBP had its own part in this, but doesnt mean they are bad or fake or whatever.

They are just joining now, a Greek wave, probably because of Bourousis in the spotlight with the spurs.

:toast
Actually, KBP is not. Kori can verify this.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-18-2009, 06:45 PM
Actually, KBP is not. Kori can verify this.

I am Greek you dumb ass. However you are NOT American. I can verify this.

TheProfessor
05-18-2009, 06:47 PM
I am Greek you dumb ass. However you are NOT American. I can verify this.
Nice outside today in Houston, wasn't it?

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-18-2009, 06:49 PM
Nice outside today in Houston, wasn't it?

FUCK YOU. I have never in my life lived in Houston.

jason1301
05-18-2009, 06:52 PM
I am Greek you dumb ass. However you are NOT American. I can verify this.

My friend according to some of your posts in the Rash Nesterovic thread, you re not familiar with what happened to all the Greek passports on Jan 2007.

EVERYONE in Greece knows about it!!!!

I will be happy to be proved wrong, but please elaborate on that, if you are Greek, I 'm sure you heard the story on the news.

stxspurs
05-18-2009, 06:59 PM
FUCK YOU. I have never in my life lived in Houston.

wow u really want to get banned

TheProfessor
05-18-2009, 07:17 PM
FUCK YOU. I have never in my life lived in Houston.
Aw come on KBP, it was really nice outside today. I took a walk down to my deli and got a pastrami on rye. You do anything fun? Go for a jog or something?

rayray2k8
05-18-2009, 08:07 PM
....
Give me an address and I'll find this fucker. :lol
Maybe I should focus on him instead. What
say you KBP? :eyebrows

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-18-2009, 08:12 PM
My friend according to some of your posts in the Rash Nesterovic thread, you re not familiar with what happened to all the Greek passports on Jan 2007.

EVERYONE in Greece knows about it!!!!

I will be happy to be proved wrong, but please elaborate on that, if you are Greek, I 'm sure you heard the story on the news.

Why you start this? I asked you why Rasho got his passport in PAOK. This has nothing to do with anything happen in 2007. This is like 10 years ago maybe. Are you Albanian?

jason1301
05-18-2009, 08:20 PM
Why you start this? I asked you why Rasho got his passport in PAOK. This has nothing to do with anything happen in 2007. This is like 10 years ago maybe. Are you Albanian?

my friend you weren't aware of the fact that his passport is no longer valid.

If are really Greek could you tell us what happened with the Greek passports back in 2007, and we will stop doubting you.

So be a good sport and tell us were you in Greece during Dec 2007-Jan 2007?

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-18-2009, 08:42 PM
my friend you weren't aware of the fact that his passport is no longer valid.

If are really Greek could you tell us what happened with the Greek passports back in 2007, and we will stop doubting you.

So be a good sport and tell us were you in Greece during Dec 2007-Jan 2007?

They made a new digital passport with some technology in it. You make such a big deal out of nothing really. Are you Albanian?

benefactor
05-18-2009, 08:49 PM
I am Greek you dumb ass. However you are NOT American. I can verify this.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/consuminginterests/blog/comcast.jpg
Owned....

jason1301
05-18-2009, 09:25 PM
They made a new digital passport with some technology in it. You make such a big deal out of nothing really. Are you Albanian?

I can't quote you from that other thread, but here is what you wrote,

"Rasho has Greek citizenship for many years now. Yes he has a Greek passport. No he has no military obligation."

Busted!

DAF86
05-18-2009, 09:46 PM
I can't quote you from that other thread,

Yes you can, just copy the entire quote (including the "quote tags") and paste it on a post in this thread.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-18-2009, 09:52 PM
I can't quote you from that other thread, but here is what you wrote,

"Rasho has Greek citizenship for many years now. Yes he has a Greek passport. No he has no military obligation."

Busted!

Which is why I asked why he got one. You are just as big an asshole as these Americans. Yep you are Albanian.

jason1301
05-18-2009, 10:05 PM
Yes you can, just copy the entire quote (including the "quote tags") and paste it on a post in this thread.

thank you my friend!

jason1301
05-18-2009, 10:14 PM
Which is why I asked why he got one. You are just as big an asshole as these Americans. Yep you are Albanian.

Nope I am not Albanian, and you are NOT Greek!!!

read below, to see how you were busted......



Rasho has Greek citizenship for many years now. Yes he has a Greek passport. No he has no military obligation.

Here you claim he has a Greek Passport.


If he only had Slovenia passport he would be consider a foreign player under Greek League rules. You can only have 6 players from outside Greece on your roster in Greek League. So having the Greek passport is major issue.

Here you claim that his Greek Passport is a plus!


He got his passport when he was in PAOK right?

Here you ask me, if he got his passport when playing with PAOK, you know that's way before 2006.


I think you are confused. You do not have to serve in Greek military to get a passport.

Yeap you act like you know, all about Greek Passports.


But I am asking he got his passport because PAOK bought it for him right? I am trying to know his reasons better. Peja for example has a Greek wife and also a home in Greece.

No you can't just buy a Greek passport. I doubt you know who is Peja is married to, and where is his house in Greece.

Ok, here is the thing, if you lived in Greece and/or are Greek, then you know that by the end of 2006, Greece switch from machine to electronic passports. Hence Rasho's passport and any passports issued before 2006, are no longer valid.

Yet you claim that Rasho's passport from his days with PAOK is valid, and as you say .... having a Greek passport is a major issue.

lol

again if you were Greek you would have known about that.

Manufan909
05-19-2009, 03:11 AM
You REALLY don't want to go there...
:lmao
You'd probably shit your pants when you see me.
But hey, wouldn't be the first time I'd do some exchanging in that, than in a forum, big man.
Let me ask you this? You feel real comfortable sitting there, saying that when you type?
Thought so.

I was actually referencing common decency, but I see it went over your head. If you are this much of an asshole in person, then I would indeed "shit my pants". Only because my theory of people being decent human beings outside of ST(sequ, KBP, Shadowflames, T2T), or posters like duncan228, kori, timvp, and senorspur being those who cuss out waiters for not remembering they asked for diet coke, and not regular pepsi, would be shattered.:downspin:

But touche good sir, you somehow got me on the side of KBP.:toast I just hope you take some Preparation H so you can get everything out of your system, and come back to Spurstalk refreshed and openminded.

mountainballer
05-19-2009, 03:54 AM
FUCK YOU. I have never in my life lived in Houston.

I can't help to think that KBP is in fact Ron Artest.
no idea why Artest tries so hard to make the world believe he is Greek, but hey, some years ago he tried to tell the world he was a musician. maybe he thinks this is somehow cool. maybe he watched this 300 film and then decided he for sure is a descendant of Leonidas.

GioSugar
05-19-2009, 04:23 AM
My friend according to some of your posts in the Rash Nesterovic thread, you re not familiar with what happened to all the Greek passports on Jan 2007.

EVERYONE in Greece knows about it!!!!

I will be happy to be proved wrong, but please elaborate on that, if you are Greek, I 'm sure you heard the story on the news.

It's easy to prove that he is not Greek. Just show me a Greek fella using an ESAKE avatar...... :bang Mathe mpalitsa agori mou.

Or did i have to say that he copy and paste the links from Greek media that i first posted here. :rolleyes
If you are Greek it's so easy to find a link. I could give a few twitter address to help you.

And final.... me , jason1301 and Illusionarist we sending each other personal messages and we have msn accounts. If KBP was Greek then he could send you a pm and he never call you Albanian.Thats the way Greek people acts, my friend.

benefactor
05-19-2009, 04:36 AM
Nope I am not Albanian, and you are NOT Greek!!!

read below, to see how you were busted......




Here you claim he has a Greek Passport.



Here you claim that his Greek Passport is a plus!



Here you ask me, if he got his passport when playing with PAOK, you know that's way before 2006.



Yeap you act like you know, all about Greek Passports.



No you can't just buy a Greek passport. I doubt you know who is Peja is married to, and where is his house in Greece.

Ok, here is the thing, if you lived in Greece and/or are Greek, then you know that by the end of 2006, Greece switch from machine to electronic passports. Hence Rasho's passport and any passports issued before 2006, are no longer valid.

Yet you claim that Rasho's passport from his days with PAOK is valid, and as you say .... having a Greek passport is a major issue.

lol

again if you were Greek you would have known about that.

http://www.antville.org/static/oelie/images/bruce%20lee%20animated%20gif.gif

benefactor
05-19-2009, 04:39 AM
lol real Greeks owning the fake Greek.

DAF86
05-19-2009, 05:28 AM
I can't help to think that KBP is in fact Ron Artest.
no idea why Artest tries so hard to make the world believe he is Greek, but hey, some years ago he tried to tell the world he was a musician. maybe he thinks this is somehow cool. maybe he watched this 300 film and then decided he for sure is a descendant of Leonidas.

I bet beign Greek must be pretty cool.

urunobili
05-19-2009, 09:06 AM
lol real Greeks owning the fake Greek.

:owned

bobbybob0
05-19-2009, 10:26 AM
KBP...

/facepalm

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 12:26 AM
They are Albanians.

Spur-Addict
05-20-2009, 12:35 AM
http://www.antville.org/static/oelie/images/bruce%20lee%20animated%20gif.gif

:lol

Bruce is the man.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 01:56 AM
They are Albanians.

:depressed

Ok, when i saw that everyboby asking you for a link at the Bourousis thread, i said, hey a Greek Dude is here ,let's help him. I post a link and you just copy and paste it. You don't even send a pm to say welcome or ty.
Then again i posted another one and you just copy and paste it again. After that i find a few more links but i never posted just to see if you are a real Greek. It was so easy to find those links.

You made a thread about Iverson and Olympiakos. I search the Greek news papers, radio, internet , i ask my friends about it.... and you know.... if something really happen that have to be a really huge topic over the Greek media.

Then you made another that Maroussi is after Tyler. Again there are nothing here.Do you know where is Maroussi anyway?

Once again you said that Pargo could not find PT over Teodosic and that the reason he finally released. I say visit the ESAKE site and learn the rules about the foreigners. It was just Pargo or Greer not Pargo or Teodosic.You know ESAKE... your avatar....

And finally a really easy question when the Greece nt will play against USA?
If you are Greek you could inform about it today or late last night....

There are people all over the world in this forum and only the Greeks have that bad reputation, just because of you.
If you want to call your self Greek then act like a Greek MAGKAS not like KOUTSAVAKI.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 04:28 AM
:depressed

Ok, when i saw that everyboby asking you for a link at the Bourousis thread, i said, hey a Greek Dude is here ,let's help him. I post a link and you just copy and paste it. You don't even send a pm to say welcome or ty.
Then again i posted another one and you just copy and paste it again. After that i find a few more links but i never posted just to see if you are a real Greek. It was so easy to find those links.

You made a thread about Iverson and Olympiakos. I search the Greek news papers, radio, internet , i ask my friends about it.... and you know.... if something really happen that have to be a really huge topic over the Greek media.

Then you made another that Maroussi is after Tyler. Again there are nothing here.Do you know where is Maroussi anyway?

Once again you said that Pargo could not find PT over Teodosic and that the reason he finally released. I say visit the ESAKE site and learn the rules about the foreigners. It was just Pargo or Greer not Pargo or Teodosic.You know ESAKE... your avatar....

And finally a really easy question when the Greece nt will play against USA?
If you are Greek you could inform about it today or late last night....

There are people all over the world in this forum and only the Greeks have that bad reputation, just because of you.
If you want to call your self Greek then act like a Greek MAGKAS not like KOUTSAVAKI.

I have inside information.

benefactor
05-20-2009, 04:37 AM
I have inside information.
:lmao

You have exposed thoroughly by the people you are impersonating. It's time to drop the act and come clean.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 04:38 AM
I have inside information.
:lmao
Ty bro, you make my day

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 04:53 AM
:lmao
Ty bro, you make my day

You are no Greek. You are either Macedonian or Albanian. Maybe Montenegrin.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 05:17 AM
You are no Greek. You are either Macedonian or Albanian. Maybe Montenegrin.
:blah

Pes to kai etsi re si Kaisari
Yep , and why i am so desperate to prove that i am a Greek?
Apelasi re apelasi, ta panta ola.

Ps. Makedonia is Greece , paiktoura mou

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 05:26 AM
:blah

Pes to kai etsi re si Kaisari
Yep , and why i am so desperate to prove that i am a Greek?
Apelasi re apelasi, ta panta ola.

Ps. Makedonia is Greece , paiktoura mou

Why are you such a fool? First you let a racist bully you then you are being racist to me. You are a typical pushover.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 05:31 AM
Why are you such a fool? First you let a racist bully you then you are being racist to me. You are a typical pushover.

Yeh? When? Just prove it.
Don't you know that Makedonia is Greece? Just open a map my friend. Did you mean FYROM?
And where is the racist on you?
You don't even know that Makedonia is Greece and you call yourself a Greek.

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 05:34 AM
:blah

Pes to kai etsi re si Kaisari
Yep , and why i am so desperate to prove that i am a Greek?
Apelasi re apelasi, ta panta ola.

Ps. Makedonia is Greece , paiktoura mou

My friend, I like your posts file, really, i enjoyed and i welcome you here, and you are right with KBP, i agree with you 100%.

But now you turn it around by those 3 words., Makedonia den einai elliniki file!!! Macedonia is Macedonia. Not Greece, never was, never will be.

I still think KBP is a Greek, he has a big knowledge of Greek and european basketball. He is just a non xenophobic Greek on the Macedonia issue, that's a good thing.

I know thats another debate, and I know this forum is not the right thing to debate that subject in, so please let's not start. But don't use racist remarks about Macedonia. I am a Macedonian, Aegean Macedonia, am I Greek? No, I am Macedonian. just like you are Greek. Am I saying that you are a Turk? Arvanite Albanian or Ethiopian? No I don't, I call you a Greek. So I expect you can treat me and my people with the same respect. Live and let live....

Gia mas! :toast

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 05:51 AM
My friend, I like your posts file, really, i enjoyed and i welcome you here, and you are right with KBP, i agree with you 100%.

But now you turn it around by those 3 words., Makedonia den einai elliniki file!!! Macedonia is Macedonia. Not Greece, never was, never will be.

I still think KBP is a Greek, he has a big knowledge of Greek and european basketball. He is just a non xenophobic Greek on the Macedonia issue, that's a good thing.

I know thats another debate, and I know this forum is not the right thing to debate that subject in, so please let's not start. But don't use racist remarks about Macedonia. I am a Macedonian, Aegean Macedonia, am I Greek? No, I am Macedonian. just like you are Greek. Am I saying that you are a Turk? Arvanite Albanian or Ethiopian? No I don't, I call you a Greek. Live and let live....

Gia mas! :toast

Gia sou file na eisai panta kala :toast

I am not talking about you and i am sorry if you feel that i use racist on you or to any other Macedonians. Yes this is another debate. But let me have my opinion, i know my history. I think you could understand the difference between Macedonia the country and Makedonia the territory. Anyway i have nothing against Macedonian, but i am sure that KBP don't know that Macedonia and Greece are in international courts about that name and he still call me Macedonian.

Ps. I said Makedonia not Macedonia

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 06:05 AM
Ok im glad you think this is another debate, and of course yeah we have our own opinions. I know that you said Makedonia, but that's just the point, since Makedonia is the same as Macedonia. Macedonia is macedonia, pirin, aegean and the republic. The same people, the same language, the same history. It is all Macedonia. It is true that several parts are occupied, but still. Macedonia is Macedonia. Wether you call it Makedonia, Macedonia or Makedonija.

As for KBP I don't know. I do know I had some discussion with him in the past about this too I think. Maybe he is a bit awkward in his way of posting and discussing, but I do think he is Greek?

But well, Doesnt matter! Welcome to ST. Are you from Athens? What's your favorite Greek club? Olympiakos? :toast

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 06:13 AM
Ok im glad you think this is another debate, and of course yeah we have our own opinions. I know that you said Makedonia, but that's just the point, since Makedonia is the same as Macedonia. Macedonia is macedonia, pirin, aegean and the republic. The same people, the same language, the same history. It is all Macedonia. It is true that several parts are occupied, but still. Macedonia is Macedonia. Wether you call it Makedonia, Macedonia or Makedonija.

As for KBP I don't know. I do know I had some discussion with him in the past about this too I think. Maybe he is a bit awkward in his way of posting and discussing, but I do think he is Greek?

Nice said File mou.
Sorry again there is a county in Greece call Makedonia and also a ministry called ministry of Makedonia and Thraki. I don't think that is a racist for the Macedonia or even the Macedonia people.

And yes, he is not a Greek , you know about this issue and you never call me a Macedonian neither i call you a Greek. He just can answer to my question and he is using racist on me and my fellow jason call us Albanians or whatever ....

So if you are a friend of KBP , nice i don't have any problem , but if he want to call himself Greek he have to act like a Greek.





But well, Doesnt matter! Welcome to ST. Are you from Athens? What's your favorite Greek club? Olympiakos? :toast

Sorry i miss that part. Thank you very much, I am from Pireus and i Live at Peristeri, Athens. My favorit club is ethnikos pireus but my favorite bb team is Aris Thessaloniki since the glory days of coach Yanakkis and Nick Galis. Nice to meet you.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 06:25 AM
Gia sou file na eisai panta kala :toast

I am not talking about you and i am sorry if you feel that i use racist on you or to any other Macedonians. Yes this is another debate. But let me have my opinion, i know my history. I think you could understand the difference between Macedonia the country and Makedonia the territory. Anyway i have nothing against Macedonian, but i am sure that KBP don't know that Macedonia and Greece are in international courts about that name and he still call me Macedonian.

Ps. I said Makedonia not Macedonia

You are a racist and an arrogant jerk.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 06:41 AM
You are a racist and an arrogant jerk.
:lmao

Keep it going my friend. I am what i am. But you can 't prove that you are a Greek.

Ps. Aris vs Maroussi today is live on Makedonia TV. So those dudes have to be racist and arogant jerks too. :lmao

mountainballer
05-20-2009, 07:06 AM
:lmao
Keep it going my friend. I am what i am. But you can 't prove that you are a Greek.


as if he has ever proved anything.
oh wait, he proved the theory of gravitation in his avatar.
(I'm pretty sure that he won't hesitate to call Isaac Newton a liar, racist and jerk, because he stole the theory from him.)

benefactor
05-20-2009, 07:14 AM
:lmao

You have exposed thoroughly by the people you are impersonating. It's time to drop the act and come clean.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 07:46 AM
:lmao

Keep it going my friend. I am what i am. But you can 't prove that you are a Greek.

Ps. Aris vs Maroussi today is live on Makedonia TV. So those dudes have to be racist and arogant jerks too. :lmao

I bet your favorite team is MaKKKedonikos.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 08:00 AM
I bet your favorite team is MaKKKedonikos.

You own me. How you know that?
:lmao

But is it Makedonikos Kozanis or Makedonikos Neapolis or Makedonikos Erithreas or Makedonikos Foufa...
Do you know how many team called Makedonikos in Greece. Google Makedonikos to find out.
:lmao

And all those Makedonikos something teams are racists and arrogant jerks.
:lmao

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 08:13 AM
You own me. How you know that?
:lmao

But is it Makedonikos Kozanis or Makedonikos Neapolis or Makedonikos Erithreas or Makedonikos Foufa...
Do you know how many team called Makedonikos in Greece. Google Makedonikos to find out.
:lmao

And all those Makedonikos something teams are racists and arrogant jerks.
:lmao

Obviously Kozani because it begin with a K. And of course this is more "Macedonian" racism.

samikeyp
05-20-2009, 08:19 AM
Obviously Kozani because it begin with a K. And of course this is more "Macedonian" racism.

lol Comcast

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 08:19 AM
Obviously Kozani because it begin with a K. And of course this is more "Macedonian" racism.

You are the best :toast
Try this one too

http://www.westernmacedonia.gr/

http://www.rcm.gr/

All those people who live there are racist and arrogant jerks , but you are not Greek :p:

OOOps sorry i forget the airport , just in case you want to visit Greece, use that link for tickets.

http://www.hcaa-eleng.gr/thes.htm

samikeyp
05-20-2009, 08:24 AM
So Gio...do you know about this Bourousis guy? Is he NBA material? I figure your opinion is 10X more credible than KBP.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 08:37 AM
I find the Hollinger Euroleague formula for NBA

Here is Ioannis Bourousis NBA stats per 36 minutes base on this formula. And remember Spurs fans was saying it was a lie because it predict Scola will get more rebounds in NBA than in Euroleague. You learn lesson already on that of how much easier it is to get rebounds in NBA.

Here is Bourousis Hollinger stats for NBA at 36 minutes this is what he would be predict to do in NBA if he play 36 minutes (3 quarters) you can use formula for 40 minutes or 36 I use 36 because Spurs do not play players that much.

52.0% FG

15.8 points
14.8 rebounds
1.5 assists

1.2 steals
0.8 blocks

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 08:38 AM
You are the best :toast
Try this one too

http://www.westernmacedonia.gr/

http://www.rcm.gr/

All those people who live there are racist and arrogant jerks , but you are not Greek :p:

OOOps sorry i forget the airport , just in case you want to visit Greece, use that link for tickets.

http://www.hcaa-eleng.gr/thes.htm

Just so you know I have Macedonian blood. I have blond hair and blue eyes.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 08:38 AM
So Gio...do you know about this Bourousis guy? Is he NBA material? I figure your opinion is 10X more credible than KBP.

Yep, my friend, he is definitely a good player. He is a very good rebounder and blocker. He knows to play well pick n roll, pick n pop and high - low plays. He have good shoot too. But he need to work his post game , coach Yanakkis working on this way and he is too emotional too and that is a reason to make useless fouls. Spurs have dvds from Bourousis for sure but i doubt that he say no to Olympiakos tax free euros. It will be great for us to see a Greek in silver and black , cause here in Greece Spurs is a very popular team. . Well i don't know if he could translate his abilities at NBA and IMO there is a big contract here to say no.

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 08:39 AM
I bet your favorite team is MaKKKedonikos.

:lmao

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 08:42 AM
Just so you know I have Macedonian blood. I have blond hair and blue eyes.

So you are a German , i haven't seen in my life a blond hair with blue eyes Greek. You know Greece like Spain and Italy and generally the country in Mediterranean area are not like you, fake Greek :p:

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 08:47 AM
You are the best :toast
Try this one too

http://www.westernmacedonia.gr/

http://www.rcm.gr/

All those people who live there are racist and arrogant jerks , but you are not Greek :p:

OOOps sorry i forget the airport , just in case you want to visit Greece, use that link for tickets.

http://www.hcaa-eleng.gr/thes.htm

Do you also know that Greeks only started to use those names with renaming almost everything in the end of eighties and beginning of nineties, out of fear that they would lose the part of Macedonia they were occupying, when it was obvious that Macedonia would become a republic, whereas Macedonia has always used that name? Before the eighties there was not even a Greek who knew what Macedonia exactly was....especially the real Greeks in southern Greece, not the prosfygas who think they are Macedonian. So KBP is a bit right here on that point.

How come an Aris fan from Athens? :wow you dont see that very often. What about your view on Bourousis, do you think he should/could join spurs or other nba team?

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 08:47 AM
So you are a German , i haven't seen in my life a blond hair with blue eyes Greek. You know Greece like Spain and Italy and generally the country in Mediterranean area are not like you, fake Greek :p:

It is Nordic blood. Same as Macedonian from Hellenes. And yes there are Greeks that have Nordic blood.

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 08:49 AM
i haven't seen in my life a blond hair with blue eyes Greek.

That's exactly why Macedonians have nothing to do with Greece or Greeks. Exactly why Macedonians are not Greek people. Macedonians are known by the possibility of having blonde hair and blue eyes, especially at birth. Greeks on the otherhand are far more darker, and its said they are haven their descent from Little Asia and maybe even far as Ethiopia and Egypt. So here too, KBP has a point

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 08:51 AM
It is Nordic blood. Same as Macedonian from Hellenes. And yes there are Greeks that have Nordic blood.

You were right until this though, Nordic blood?! Lol, WTF that is BS. It is true that there have been some nordic peoples on the territories of the Balkans in the past, but they were kind of vikings, conquerors and have not much to do with the dna of our people.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 08:53 AM
You were right until this though, Nordic blood?! Lol, WTF that is BS. It is true that there have been some nordic peoples on the territories of the Balkans in the past, but they were kind of vikings, conquerors and have not much to do with the dna of our people.

Nordic is how your face looks. Shape of the skull. That is what I mean. Just look in Croatia my friend for example. many Nordics there.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 08:55 AM
Before the eighties there was not even a Greek who knew what Macedonia exactly was....especially the real Greeks in southern Greece, not the prosfygas who think they are Macedonian. So KBP is a bit right here on that point.


Come on now. If you want to help KBP ok. But what are you saying here. Do you ever read book from a Greece school. Do you know Pavlos Melas ,i am sure you do. If you want me to stop laughing over KBP just ask me to do. NP.


That's exactly why Macedonians have nothing to do with Greece or Greeks. Exactly why Macedonians are not Greek people. Macedonians are known by the possibility of having blonde hair and blue eyes, especially at birth. Greeks on the otherhand are far more darker, and its said they are haven their descent from Little Asia and maybe even far as Ethiopia and Egypt. So here too, KBP has a point

Once again i am talking about the territory of makedonia that belongs to greece. Why i have to tell you for a 2nd time. Ok just say stop laughing on my friend , and i will do it.




How come an Aris fan from Athens? :wow
Well Aris was the only team in Greece that everybody love when Galis and Yanakkis played for Aris. I was young and i was playing bb at Piraikos. My favorite player was Yanakkis and i never lost a game. But there are a lot of people who love Aris. It's not the same like football. Basketball fans love Aris.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 08:59 AM
Come on now. If you want to help KBP ok. But what are you saying here. Do you ever read book from a Greece school. Do you know Pavlos Melas ,i am sure you do. If you want me to stop laughing over KBP just ask me to do. NP.

WTF is this you post? Do you learn anything at school? Who is your teacher? Did you go to British Technical University or something? Everyone know what you say is bull shit. You are sound as ignorant with your propaganda as some of the Texas fans on this forum that talk their crap about WMD and Iraq and spreading freedom.

You too much British propaganda.

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 09:04 AM
I know Pavlos Melas very well. He was born in France, was a general who slaughtered almost every Macedonian on our own land when he entered our country at the beggining of 1900 with the goal of annexing Macedonia. He was killed eventually by the Turks in the village of Statitsa.

And no, why would I read Greek school books? I know they are full of nationalistic propaganda. Same goes for Macedonian schoolbooks. Instead I read neutral English and almost every other books on this subject.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 09:05 AM
WTF is this you post? Do you learn anything at school? Who is your teacher? Did you go to British Technical University or something? Everyone know what you say is bull shit. You are sound as ignorant with your propaganda as some of the Texas fans on this forum that talk their crap about WMD and Iraq and spreading freedom.

You too much British propaganda.

:lmao:rollin:lmao

I love you man , you are so cool . Post me some more, i want to show your post to my wife and my children. Especially my children have to learn what is a fake greek.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 09:07 AM
I know Pavlos Melas very well. He was born in France, was a general who slaughtered almost every Macedonian on our own land when he entered our country at the beggining of 1900 with the goal of annexing Macedonia. He was killed eventually by the Turks in the village of Statitsa.

And no, why would I read Greek school books? I know they are full of nationalistic propaganda. Same goes for Macedonian schoolbooks. Instead I read neutral English and almost every other books on this subject.

So , you are saying that there is no part of Makedonia that is in Greece now?
I can't understand your point. What all those things have to do with the fact that KBP is not a Greek and he calling me albanian, macedonian, etc
Sorry i can help it.
Do you try to prove that i am not Greek?
Or that i am racist?
Ok and all those people in Greece are racist?

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 09:08 AM
:lmao:rollin:lmao

I love you man , you are so cool . Post me some more, i want to show your post to my wife and my children. Especially my children have to learn what is a fake greek.

You are a dumb ass. You believe in fake history you idiot.

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 09:10 AM
Once again i am talking about the territory of makedonia that belongs to greece. Why i have to tell you for a 2nd time. Ok just say stop laughing on my friend , and i will do it.


Well Aris was the only team in Greece that everybody love when Galis and Yanakkis played for Aris. I was young and i was playing bb at Piraikos. My favorite player was Yanakkis and i never lost a game. But there are a lot of people who love Aris. It's not the same like football. Basketball fans love Aris.

I know you talk about the territory that belongs to Greece now, but that territory is part of my country Macedonia, its just occupied since 1912. Still there are living Macedonians in that territory, i myself have my roots from that Territory.

Why would I ask you to stop laughing at him? laugh all what you want :) no problem.

Cool, nice to hear Aris has such a wide fanbase. Do you like jeremiah massey? he played there before.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 09:13 AM
You are a dumb ass. You believe in fake history you idiot.

Sorry but i have to go. Thank you for your jokes , you really make my day. I hope to meet you again and post much more. Bye fake Greek.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 09:14 AM
I know you talk about the territory that belongs to Greece now, but that territory is part of my country Macedonia, its just occupied since 1912. Still there are living Macedonians in that territory, i myself have my roots from that Territory.

Why would I ask you to stop laughing at him? laugh all what you want :) no problem.

Cool, nice to hear Aris has such a wide fanbase. Do you like jeremiah massey? he played there before.

Aris does not have a wide fan base. It is smaller fans base I think that Olympiacos, Panathinaikos, AEK, PAOK for sure. But Aris does have many fans who watch basketball back in 80s like he say. Aris was the main team of Greece and had the main fans for sure in that time for many years. So there is still many fans that have the memories of this.

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 09:15 AM
So , you are saying that there is no part of Makedonia that is in Greece now?
I can't understand your point. What all those things have to do with the fact that KBP is not a Greek and he calling me albanian, macedonian, etc
Sorry i can help it.
Do you try to prove that i am not Greek?
Or that i am racist?
Ok and all those people in Greece are racist?

No, im not saying there is no part of Macedonia in Greece right now, cause there is. Macedonia was divided into three pieces back in 1912. You have a piece, which has been occupied since then and now belongs to Greece.

This has nothing to do with KBP, if he is greek or not. Its just about things what have been said on this thread.

I dont want to prove you are not a Greek, because you are a Greek. I just want to defend my people and my country, and show you that some claims you have are unbiased.

No, I dont believe you are truly racist, you seem like a cool guy. As for many Greeks I do believe they are racist towards Macedonia and the Macedonians, but that is not their fault. Thats the fault of the Greek governmental policy towards Macedonians for over the last 200 years in trying to erase the Macedonian people, history, language and culture.

As for KBP. I dont know what he is and where he comes from and what he wants to say. Im just saying he had some points there.
:toast

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 09:15 AM
Sorry but i have to go. Thank you for your jokes , you really make my day. I hope to meet you again and post much more. Bye fake Greek.

Everyone know it is the truth that the Greece and Macedonia things comes from British. How can you not know this? It is just the same thing these Americans talk about 9/11, Iraq war, WMD and all this crazy crap.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 09:17 AM
I know you talk about the territory that belongs to Greece now, but that territory is part of my country Macedonia, its just occupied since 1912. Still there are living Macedonians in that territory, i myself have my roots from that Territory.

Why would I ask you to stop laughing at him? laugh all what you want :) no problem.

Cool, nice to hear Aris has such a wide fanbase. Do you like jeremiah massey? he played there before.

Now you tell me what your books writing. It's endless...
But i could give you my msn , so we could discuss without annoying the other users of the forum.

Yeh ,sure i love him. He have macedonian passport if i am not wrong.He is the man on Aris. There are rumors that he could come back this summer.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 09:18 AM
Now you tell me what your books writing. It's endless...
But i could give you my msn , so we could discuss without annoying the other users of the forum.

Yeh ,sure i love him. He have macedonian passport if i am not wrong.He is the man on Aris. There are rumors that he could come back this summer.

Is this if they beat Maroussi and make Euroleague?

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 09:22 AM
I dont want to prove you are not a Greek, because you are a Greek. I just want to defend my people and my country, and show you that some claims you have are unbiased.

Nothing on your country . No offense. I just was a little 'high flying' cause that dude KBP makes me laugh. Sorry if i said something wrong for your country and for the Macedonians :toast

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 09:24 AM
Is this if they beat Maroussi and make Euroleague?

You have to tell me, i am not Greek :lmao

Bukefal
05-20-2009, 09:24 AM
Now you tell me what your books writing. It's endless...
But i could give you my msn , so we could discuss without annoying the other users of the forum.

Yeh ,sure i love him. He have macedonian passport if i am not wrong.He is the man on Aris. There are rumors that he could come back this summer.

Well, lets just drop the whole Macedonia - Greek issue. I respect Greeks and I hope you respect Macedonians the same.

Yeah, Massey is great. But I dont think he will be back at Aris. Either he will stay at Real or maybe some even say there are interests in NBA. But I dont believe that.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 09:27 AM
You have to tell me, i am not Greek :lmao

Why so serious? You can say I am fake Greek and I cannot say it back? Calm down.

samikeyp
05-20-2009, 09:49 AM
Yep, my friend, he is definitely a good player. He is a very good rebounder and blocker. He knows to play well pick n roll, pick n pop and high - low plays. He have good shoot too. But he need to work his post game , coach Yanakkis working on this way and he is too emotional too and that is a reason to make useless fouls. Spurs have dvds from Bourousis for sure but i doubt that he say no to Olympiakos tax free euros. It will be great for us to see a Greek in silver and black , cause here in Greece Spurs is a very popular team. . Well i don't know if he could translate his abilities at NBA and IMO there is a big contract here to say no.

Well, if he could help the Spurs, he would be welcomed with open arms by Spurs fans. :toast

Brutalis
05-20-2009, 11:27 AM
I haven't read the thread, but does any NBA team have his rights? If not I have a feeling this guy is on a lot of radars.

GioSugar
05-20-2009, 11:49 AM
Why so serious? You can say I am fake Greek and I cannot say it back? Calm down.

Ok, Aris won the first game. But even if Aris win the series , have to play qualifiers games accordingly Bartolomeo 's plan.

Ah, i have for you a link about the friendly games vs USA
http://www.basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21615&Itemid=233

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketblog.gr%2Findex.php%3 Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D21615%2 6Itemid%3D233&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate


Well, if he could help the Spurs, he would be welcomed with open arms by Spurs fans. :toast

:toast


I haven't read the thread, but does any NBA team have his rights? If not I have a feeling this guy is on a lot of radars.

Nope, he is an FA.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 01:12 PM
This is the combined numbers for the whole year Greek League and Euroleague 50 games so far. Hollinger does it this way combines domestic and European cups together. So this is closer stats how he uses it.

Anyway as can see his only weak area in stats is free throws.


36 minutes

53.6% FG
69.1% FT

16.0 points
15.1 rebounds
2.1 assists

1.2 steals
1.3 blocks

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 01:13 PM
Ok, Aris won the first game. But even if Aris win the series , have to play qualifiers games accordingly Bartolomeo 's plan.

Ah, i have for you a link about the friendly games vs USA
http://www.basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21615&Itemid=233

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketblog.gr%2Findex.php%3 Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D21615%2 6Itemid%3D233&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate



:toast



Nope, he is an FA.

Aris will not play qualifiers. Spanish League and Greek League will not participate next year unless system is changed. They are blocking it. So changes Bertomeu made are now nothing.

Brutalis
05-20-2009, 01:45 PM
Probably need this guy then. God knows we aren't getting anything in this draft.

rayray2k8
05-20-2009, 02:23 PM
You're right, I am fake Greek and I cannot say that I am.

:lol

You see now why I got on KBP, gio?
This loser gave you guys a bad rap and look what happened.
He's a fraud and KBP actually lives in Houston. His real name is "Jeff".
:lol
Oops, I don't think he want's you to read that. :P

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-20-2009, 02:37 PM
:lol

You see now why I got on KBP, gio?
This loser gave you guys a bad rap and look what happened.
He's a fraud and KBP actually lives in Houston. His real name is "Jeff".
:lol
Oops, I don't think he want's you to read that. :P

You live in Bucksnort Tennessee and you are a registered sex offender. Your real name is Jethro Billy Bob.

Oops, I don't think you wanted me to out you.

samikeyp
05-20-2009, 02:48 PM
You live in Bucksnort Tennessee and you are a registered sex offender. Your real name is Jethro Billy Bob.

Oops, I don't think you wanted me to out you.

Look who's English got suddenly better. :lol

lol comcast.

rayray2k8
05-20-2009, 08:25 PM
Look who's English got suddenly better. :lol

lol comcast.

No shit right?
Hmmm. Did I hit a nerve, Jeff?

Bukefal
05-21-2009, 05:00 PM
http://www.sportingreece.com/kb/article.asp?fIndex=3234

Mel_13
05-21-2009, 05:08 PM
http://www.sportingreece.com/kb/article.asp?fIndex=3234


Interesting news. Also proves that is actually possible to provide a link for basketball-related news from Greece. Thanks.

Bukefal
05-21-2009, 05:10 PM
Interesting news. Also proves that is actually possible to provide a link for basketball-related news from Greece. Thanks.

:lol yeah it is possible with some searching. Not like some user we all know of, here on the forums :wakeup

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-21-2009, 06:14 PM
In 30 minutes Bourousis had 18 points and 14 rebounds in game 1 of Greek finals.

Ditty
05-21-2009, 06:50 PM
In 30 minutes Bourousis had 18 points and 14 rebounds in game 1 of Greek finals.

aint he going to make his dcision after the finals

GioSugar
05-23-2009, 07:47 AM
Here is the stats for the first game.

http://www.galanissportsdata.com/basketball/mena1/season2008_09/a1game.asp?game=198

Bourousis did his 4th and 5th foul in less than 15 sec. He lost again his focus. IMO that was a critical factor for his team to loose the game.
Beside that his Tendex was 1.095. Huge for a game like that.

yavozerb
05-23-2009, 10:53 AM
what is the tendex?

benefactor
05-23-2009, 11:08 AM
what is the tendex?
Wondering the same thing.

TheProfessor
05-23-2009, 11:11 AM
What is Tendex? (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_514105.html)


Tendex is a rating system that evaluates basketball players on a point-per-minute basis. It is the result of a formula that sports writer Dave Heeren developed in 1960 while at the University of Delaware.

Heeren, who retired recently from the South Florida Sun-Sentinel newspaper in Fort Lauderdale, was way ahead of the basketball talent evaluation curve when he factored 10 statistical categories, along with rate of improvement and intangibles, to arrive at a quotient.

The Tendex formula computes points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocked shots, missed shots, turnovers, strength of schedule and game pace (different for up-tempo and slowdown teams).

benefactor
05-23-2009, 11:17 AM
Thanks. :tu

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-01-2009, 07:42 PM
It is said in Greek championship that Bourousis has serious offers from NBA and he will decide within 10 days if he will stay in Olympiacos or sign in NBA. Most serious team is Spurs.

Nick, the Nazi
06-01-2009, 07:49 PM
It is said in Greek championship...


Is that a newspaper?

benefactor
06-01-2009, 07:57 PM
Link to article where the Spurs are mentioned?

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-03-2009, 09:08 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Overseas-Free-Agents/

Draftexpress.com

Overseas Free Agents

Ioannis Bourousis is #1 FREE AGENT AVAILABLE


So now what do all the fans here calling me a liar about his level have to say?

Spursfan092120
06-03-2009, 09:25 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Overseas-Free-Agents/

Draftexpress.com

Overseas Free Agents

Ioannis Bourousis is #1 FREE AGENT AVAILABLE


So now what do all the fans here calling me a liar about his level have to say?
Do you know how to read? Most of the people in here are saying he'd be ok on the team...I even think he'd be a good addition...we're just saying he's not our freaking savior...you need to get off the drugs, dude.

EricB
06-03-2009, 09:59 PM
Louisiana has been hot lately, so Kill Bill's brain is a tad fried.

Spursfan092120
06-03-2009, 10:23 PM
Louisiana has been hot lately, so Kill Bill's brain is a tad fried.
I thought he was in Arkansas.

benefactor
06-03-2009, 11:19 PM
Link to article where the Spurs are mentioned?
Still waiting.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-04-2009, 03:56 PM
From Bruno

Spurs offer Bourousis 3 years $12 million contract.

http://www.tanea.gr/default.asp?pid=41&nid=1020448

Now you fucking liars that insult me can STFU

Spursfan092120
06-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Translated

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tanea.gr%2Fdefault.asp%3Fpi d%3D41%26nid%3D1020448&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

If the guy takes the contract and can play, that's great. Still won't call him a savior.

GioSugar
06-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Just can't buy it , sorry. No writer here , just another salt n' pepa article. Bourousis manager was today in a meeting with Yanakis and Aggelopoulos Brothers. So that article just saying that agent will ask 2m per year.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-04-2009, 04:09 PM
Just can't buy it , sorry. No writer here , just another salt n' pepa article. Bourousis manager was today in a meeting with Yanakis and Aggelopoulos Brothers. So that article just saying that agent will ask 2m per year.

Let me give inside info. For last 2 years Spurs have watched every game of Bourousis. For 2008 Olympics and this year with Olympiacos Spurs have in person scout every game he has played in.

GioSugar
06-04-2009, 04:15 PM
Let me give inside info. For last 2 years Spurs have watched every game of Bourousis. For 2008 Olympics and this year with Olympiacos Spurs have in person scout every game he has played in.

That's not an inside info. Anybody here in Greece know about it. Spurs and a lot of NBA teams have a scouter here. But this article is from a political media not a sport media and there is no writer to sign it. So here in Greece we all know that this one is just a manager game and we will see a lot of those articles till Bourousis finally sign.

Spursfan092120
06-04-2009, 04:18 PM
That's not an inside info. Anybody here in Greece know about it. Spurs and a lot of NBA teams have a scouter here. But this article is from a political media not a sport media and there is no writer to sign it. So here in Greece we all know that this one is just a manager game and we will see a lot of those articles till Bourousis finally sign.
:tu Just like reading the tabloids.

MarHill
06-04-2009, 05:01 PM
Who is this guy? Is he any good?

ducks
06-04-2009, 05:13 PM
http://assets.in.gr/dGenesis/assets/Content5/Photo/1020448_b.jpg
Translated

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tanea.gr%2Fdefault.asp%3Fpi d%3D41%26nid%3D1020448&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

If the guy takes the contract and can play, that's great. Still won't call him a savior.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-04-2009, 05:23 PM
That's not an inside info. Anybody here in Greece know about it. Spurs and a lot of NBA teams have a scouter here. But this article is from a political media not a sport media and there is no writer to sign it. So here in Greece we all know that this one is just a manager game and we will see a lot of those articles till Bourousis finally sign.

Maybe Olympiacos will keep him with their huge huge contract offers. But you need to be realistic. He does have offer from Spurs it is true and Olympiacos is never going to be a choice over Spurs unless money is very huge which with Angelopulous brothers is possible.

Olympiacos is not Panathinaikos and I am sure Bourousis understands this.

ducks
06-04-2009, 05:38 PM
Just can't buy it , sorry. No writer here , just another salt n' pepa article. Bourousis manager was today in a meeting with Yanakis and Aggelopoulos Brothers. So that article just saying that agent will ask 2m per year.

duncan228
06-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Spurs going Greek? Not so fast (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/06/spurs-going-gre.html)
By Jeff McDonald

Perhaps by now you have read this unfortunately translated report out of Greece (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tanea.gr%2Fdefault.as p%3Fpid%3D41%26nid%3D1020448&sl=el&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8), intimating that the Spurs have offered a three-year deal to Euroleague star Yiannis Bouroussis.

Perhaps your imagination has already begun to run wild, and you have begun to ponder the implications of a taller, younger version of Luis Scola with 3-point range lining up with Tim Duncan through 2012.

One problem with this scenario: At this point in the offseason, it is against NBA rules for the Spurs to have offered anybody anything. In fact, it is against NBA rules for the Spurs to even contact Bouroussis or his representatives, and will be until July 1.

So we can tell you, without much mental gymnastics, that the Greek report is incorrect. Or at best premature. The Spurs have offered Bouroussis nothing. Yet.

That's not to say Bouroussis, the 6-foot-11 star center for the Greek team Olympiacos, is not a bright blip on the Spurs' radar. They scouted him at the Euroleague Final Four last month, where he performed well for a Spurs contingent that included general manager R.C. Buford, assistant GM Dennis Lindsey and coach Gregg Popovich.

It wouldn't be surprising, after July 1, to see the Spurs tender Bouroussis an offer. We'll have to wait and see.

benefactor
06-05-2009, 09:10 PM
KBP owned by McDonald.......................................... ........................:lmao

Longley
06-06-2009, 09:48 AM
http://thehoop.blogspot.com/2009/06/bourousis-between-greece-and-nba.html

yavozerb
06-06-2009, 09:53 AM
KBP owned by McDonald.......................................... ........................:lmao

I think it will actually turn out that KBP owned Mcdonald....:wow

duncan228
06-06-2009, 02:30 PM
From The Hoop. No clue if it's solid info or not.

Bourousis between Greece and the NBA (http://thehoop.blogspot.com/2009/06/bourousis-between-greece-and-nba.html)

The negotiations have started about the future of Ioannis Bourousis(2.10-C) who is considered to be one of the hottest players this summer. Sportnet.gr (http://www.sportnet.gr/report.aspx?id=189875) says that there is initially a big gap between the money that Bourousis is asking and what Olympiakos are offering. It also says that the San Antonio Spurs offer him a 4 season contract whereas Olympiakos offer a 3+1 contract. It also says that San Antonio offer more money than Olympiakos at this moment in time.

Another report comes from gazzetta.gr (http://www.gazzetta.gr/content/view/36353/35/) which mentions 2 more NBA teams interested in the young greek center apart from San Antonio and they are Memphis and Cleveland. The agent of Bourousis, Kostas Papadakis, will meet with the Aggelopoulos brothers again in a few days and it's expected that Olympiakos will come up with a better offer.

It is common knowledge that Bourousis would prefer to stay in Greece and Olympiakos rather than play in the NBA so there will definitely be more news on this one. He averaged 12.5 points and 7.4 rebounds in 22 games in the Euroleague.

ChumpDumper
06-06-2009, 03:59 PM
It is common knowledge that Bourousis would prefer to stay in Greece and Olympiakos rather than play in the NBAThis AND he's Greek?

Don't waste my time.

mookie2001
06-06-2009, 04:07 PM
duncan228 your triple posts are becoming unbearable

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-06-2009, 06:30 PM
:lol

loveforthegame
06-06-2009, 11:04 PM
It is common knowledge that Bourousis would prefer to stay in Greece and Olympiakos rather than play in the NBA so there will definitely be more news on this one.

Great. The Spurs will be probably wait all summer on him. :bang

Blackjack
06-07-2009, 12:32 AM
Great. The Spurs will be probably wait all summer on him. :bang

I doubt it.

If they've really made him an offer already, it would stand to reason, they did so with a mindset to give themselves plenty of time to keep there options open, if he refused.

That's one good thing about going after non-NBA players. They're not beholden to the same restrictions, as far as free-agency rules, thus, allowing you to go after a talent you'd otherwise have to sit on your hands and wait for.

I'm guessing with the way the economy is and the impending '10 free-agency bonanza, free-agents won't be getting snatched up all that quickly.

These guys' agents are going to be working their asses off trying to get their clients the best deal. So even if Bourousis doesn't make up his mind before July 1, (IIRC the date correctly) it's probably not all that worrisome.

Longley
06-07-2009, 01:47 AM
Aggelopoulos brothers dont know wheres the limit. Im thinkin that they will keep him whatever it takes. They already bought Childress last summer, payied him 8 mil without taxes, so its doutful that Bourousis will come here.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-07-2009, 03:19 AM
From Greek writers of Eurobasket

http://www.eurobasket.com/Greece/basketball.asp?NewsID=161415

Other Red news (behind the scenes) is that Giannis Bourousis (212-C-83) will be probably moving to the States and NBA, as he considers being the most 'hot deal' in Europe for teams that play the pick n roll, as the Greek center is among the best in the European courts.

buttsR4rebounding
06-07-2009, 10:04 AM
KBP owned by McDonald.......................................... ........................:lmao

Please....if the Spurs are indeed interested in him and his current team and many others can start negotiating with him immediately after their season ends, you can't tell me that the Spurs didn't at least unofficially make an offer. To have no contact before July 1 would mean he would likely be signed already before you got in the game. In addition, since McDonald never had an original thought before I need to see that confirmed elsewhere before I believe it is true.:wakeup

Manufan909
10-10-2009, 04:33 PM
So what did the people who went to the preseason game last night think of Ioannis? He had some decent stats, but nothing too great. In 18:20 minutes he had 7 pts, 2 O boards, 2 D boards, 2-5 or 40% FG, 1-2 or 50% 3FG, 2-4 or 50% FT, 4 fouls, 2 steals, 1 TO, and 1 block.

I only know the numbers, I have no clue who he guarded, and who he scored on.

Libri
10-10-2009, 06:07 PM
Now that we know how he feels about the Spurs, I wish I had seen the game. It's interesting that Pop compared him to Vlade, who was a great passer.

Kill_Bill_Pana
01-29-2010, 02:56 AM
http://www.euroleague.net/main/resul...asetypecode=TS

Splitter:

31 minutes

4/10 FG
0/0 3 PT FG
2/4 FT

10 points
6 rebounds
1 assist

1 steal
0 blocks

10 player ranking

Bourousis:

23 minutes

7/12 FG
2/5 3 PT FG
2/2 FT

18 points
11 rebounds
1 assist

1 steal
0 blocks

24 player ranking


Like I say here many times, Bourousis is much better center than Splitter no matter what Spurs managers say.

benefactor
06-08-2010, 11:57 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155975

Should we consider this news? :)

Bruno
06-08-2010, 12:26 PM
If I were a basketball player, I woudl like to go as far as I can of Greek Basketball after what happens in the final. It was a true disaster. I would be damn surprised if a player like Childress is still with Olympiakos next year.

Bourousis has had a down year and NBA teams shouldn't make him big offers this year. Even if he is upset by what happens, I don't see him trying to break his contract and take a big paycut to go in NBA.

And Splitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bourousis.
Spurs should put all their focus on getting Tiago and hopes he won't fuck them a second time.

DesignatedT
06-08-2010, 12:36 PM
If I were a basketball player, I woudl like to go as far as I can of Greek Basketball after what happens in the final. It was a true disaster. I would be damn surprised if a player like Childress is still with Olympiakos next year.

Bourousis has had a down year and NBA teams shouldn't make him big offers this year. Even if he is upset by what happens, I don't see him trying to break his contract and take a big paycut to go in NBA.

And Splitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bourousis.
Spurs should put all their focus on getting Tiago and hopes he won't fuck them a second time.

what happened?

Bruno
06-08-2010, 12:51 PM
what happened?

short version: Olympiacos' fans throw whatever they can to Panathinaikos' players.

Al84gL7-Wao

Indazone
06-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Childress was on the Olympiacos side...he was ok at that game lol

DesignatedT
06-09-2010, 12:38 PM
short version: Olympiacos' fans throw whatever they can to Panathinaikos' players.

Al84gL7-Wao

thanks. thats crazy.

Blackjack
01-04-2011, 06:48 PM
At the risk of having Kill_Bill_Forever needing to consult a physician after a 4-hour episode, could Bourousis be an option next year?

With 'Dyess retiring, Splitter or Blair will move up to their No. 2, Bonner will play much the same role, possibly with diminished minutes, and they'll need a fifth big.

Bourousis could come pretty cheap, the Spurs have shown interest (as has he in them) and his skill set makes some sense -- he's got the shooting touch to space the floor and in Blair and Splitter, he'd have a decent compliment to his slow feet; I could see him being one of those low-minute PER players that has Hollinger salivating but wouldn't be served well being anything more.

When you think about it, he and Blair could be a pretty decent fit, possibly Splitter, too. IBS is a real space eater that occupies bodies on the boards, something that could help Blair to be a better defensive rebounder, and his shooting would help to space the floor for him on the offensive end -- he'd give the Spurs one more big that provides somewhat of a specialty for spot minutes or matchups.

Thoughts?

yavozerb
01-04-2011, 07:21 PM
At the risk of having Kill_Bill_Forever needing to consult a physician after a 4-hour episode, could Bourousis be an option next year?

With 'Dyess retiring, Splitter or Blair will move up to their No. 2, Bonner will play much the same role, possibly with diminished minutes, and they'll need a fifth big.

Bourousis could come pretty cheap, the Spurs have shown interest (as has he in them) and his skill set makes some sense -- he's got the shooting touch to space the floor and in Blair and Splitter, he'd have a decent compliment to his slow feet; I could see him being one of those low-minute PER players that has Hollinger salivating but wouldn't be served well being anything more.

When you think about it, he and Blair could be a pretty decent fit, possibly Splitter, too. IBS is a real space eater that occupies bodies on the boards, something that could help Blair to be a better defensive rebounder, and his shooting would help to space the floor for him on the offensive end -- he'd give the Spurs one more big that provides somewhat of a specialty for spot minutes or matchups.

Thoughts?

When his name came up a couple of seasons ago that the spurs were interested I was all for it. He reminds of IIlgauskas the way he plays and his size. Do you happen to have any of his current contract info?

TD 21
01-04-2011, 07:24 PM
At the risk of having Kill_Bill_Forever needing to consult a physician after a 4-hour episode, could Bourousis be an option next year?

With 'Dyess retiring, Splitter or Blair will move up to their No. 2, Bonner will play much the same role, possibly with diminished minutes, and they'll need a fifth big.

Bourousis could come pretty cheap, the Spurs have shown interest (as has he in them) and his skill set makes some sense -- he's got the shooting touch to space the floor and in Blair and Splitter, he'd have a decent compliment to his slow feet; I could see him being one of those low-minute PER players that has Hollinger salivating but wouldn't be served well being anything more.

When you think about it, he and Blair could be a pretty decent fit, possibly Splitter, too. IBS is a real space eater that occupies bodies on the boards, something that could help Blair to be a better defensive rebounder, and his shooting would help to space the floor for him on the offensive end -- he'd give the Spurs one more big that provides somewhat of a specialty for spot minutes or matchups.

Thoughts?

Not a bad idea, but I don't see it happening.

From his perspective, why would he want to be the fifth big? Unlike Splitter, who will wait no more than a season to be in the rotation, he could very well have to wait a few (however many more Duncan decides to play).

From their perspective, they (Pop, at least) views Duncan, Splitter and Blair as more centers than power forwards. With one of their two true power forwards retiring, I've got to think they'll want to replace him with a true power forward, or a combo forward.

They could go with a younger player, who was not too long ago thought to have quite a bit of upside. Guys like Johnson, Wright and Clark all figure to be available on the cheap. If they go the trade route, I could see them targeting guys like Powell, Brown, Brackins and Tolliver. If they go with a veteran free agent, guys like Andersen (though he's not really a true power forward) and Cook are possibilities. But I wouldn't be shocked if -- short of being able to fill the need via the draft -- they go off the board and pluck someone out of obscurity in Europe, a la Neal. Who knows, Haislip may even be a possibility.

yavozerb
01-04-2011, 07:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUj25_i9p2c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnyOncKtLZc

Mel_13
01-06-2011, 05:38 PM
Just a swarthier version of Matt Bonner, tbh...

Additionally, players from his homeland never last in the NBA. Homesick or something...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=GR&state=