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Bruno
04-29-2009, 04:33 AM
http://www.euroleague.net/resourceserver/13212/56111b53-c236-44aa-a447-40f4f8703ee2/5a5/rglang/en-US/filename/robertas-javtokas-dynamo-moscow-final-eight-turin-2008.jpg

Robertas Javtokas | C
Born: March 20, 1980
Height: 6-11 / 2,11
Weight: 270 lbs. / 120 kg.
Born: Šiauliai, Lithuania

wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertas_Javtokas)

objective
04-29-2009, 05:00 AM
They should have signed him in the summer 0f 06 when they lost their minds and went after a proven 3rd string scrub and a slow fat Larry Brownish scrub.

But since he's a free agent now . . .

He's older and heavier. He's never added to his game (not that I thought he ever would).

But still, I suppose he's worth gambling a portion of the MLE on, or LLE if so available. So in my mind $2 million a year works. That is if they can't realistically get Ariza or Odom or someone of that caliber with the MLE.

Give him a 2 year, with the second year either only partially guaranteed or give him a player out so he can go back to europe if he feels the NBA is not for him.

Rogue
04-29-2009, 05:02 AM
I can't wait to learn what Kill_Bill_Pana thinks of him. :lol

objective
04-29-2009, 05:04 AM
I can't wait to learn what Kill_Bill_Pana thinks of him. :lol

is 30nd better center of europe!

No even play good if the PAOK!

Bourassis best, outbright Javtokam!

Bruno
04-29-2009, 05:24 AM
http://www.cosmopolitan.lt/images/graphics/1108539641.jpg

:downspin:

timvp
04-29-2009, 05:26 AM
Bruno with the ploto bait.

Bruno
04-29-2009, 05:29 AM
:lol

BWS-1994
04-29-2009, 05:30 AM
I've read some concerns here about his condition post motorcycle incident. Any truth, additional info about this?

Bruno
04-29-2009, 05:35 AM
I've read some concerns here about his condition post motorcycle incident. Any truth, additional info about this?

He has maybe lost some athleticism but he would remain an athletic center if he enters in the draft.
The concern about Javtokas is more about a lack of skills.

poop
04-29-2009, 06:27 AM
http://www.cosmopolitan.lt/images/graphics/1108539641.jpg




:downspin:


"iF HE DIES...HE DIES."

"I MUST BREAK YOU"

:p:

TDMVPDPOY
04-29-2009, 07:18 AM
shit bro, whats the bait, now you got all these women on spurstalk jizzing.....

poop
04-29-2009, 07:40 AM
it would be good to have Ivan Drago on our team, 2000psi elbows to intimidate opponents.

Manufan909
04-29-2009, 10:27 AM
So is he any good on D, like Byrdman or Camby? Or is he just a dunk/putback guy, a la Diop?

Manufan909
04-29-2009, 08:59 PM
I can't believe I ask this, but KBP to the save?:lol

SenorSpur
04-29-2009, 09:07 PM
"You will lose"

024
04-29-2009, 09:18 PM
now or never to bring him over.

anjlbitz
04-29-2009, 09:24 PM
The Spurs paid for his rehab after the motorcycle accident, correct?

Ditty
04-29-2009, 09:31 PM
he's 28 wow

bring him over this year or trade him for a future second round pick

024
04-29-2009, 09:45 PM
spurs should trade him to the rockets.

EricB
04-30-2009, 12:23 AM
The Spurs paid for his rehab after the motorcycle accident, correct?

Yes they did.

Paid for the surgery as well.


But his reaction when told if you come over you'll be competing for minutes with Francisco Elson, instead of "Sure, I'll just take every single minute" is "Thats insulting"


He's dead to me as far as I'm concerned so he can rot in europe the ungratefull jerk.

TDMVPDPOY
04-30-2009, 12:31 AM
if he comes over he will be only competing against bonner for the starting spot

actually his fkn playin from the bench on his euro team, fkn wanker

objective
05-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Javtokas 04 Olympic play:

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objective
05-03-2009, 04:54 PM
Javtokas in 08 Olympics vs. USA

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biziofromdowntown
05-03-2009, 04:59 PM
He'll stay in a Euroleague club after his russian club Dynamo Mosca released all the roster. We'll never see him in silver n black.

Stop thinkin.

timvp
05-03-2009, 05:50 PM
Could Javtokas be the cheap, defensive big the Spurs can get to start next to Duncan? He lacks skills be perhaps he can be the rebounder and shot blocker the Spurs need to add to the mix?

Hmmm ....

Manufan909
05-03-2009, 06:08 PM
Could Javtokas be the cheap, defensive big the Spurs can get to start next to Duncan? He lacks skills be perhaps he can be the rebounder and shot blocker the Spurs need to add to the mix?

Hmmm ....

You think Pop has given up on him?

Libri
05-03-2009, 07:01 PM
What's up with his free throw shooting? The Wiki says that he improved from 35.5% to 54.5%. :(

TDMVPDPOY
05-03-2009, 08:40 PM
What's up with his free throw shooting? The Wiki says that he improved from 35.5% to 54.5%. :(








must be the shark tattoo guiding them into the hoop.....

Marcus Bryant
05-03-2009, 08:46 PM
It's worth a shot.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-03-2009, 09:56 PM
He is a nice center I always like him. He is better then Mahinmi, Bonner, Oberto, Thomas. When Eurocup was still on and Dynamo was play their last game before they was lost it was said that he plans on NBA this summer if he is given a chance either with Spurs or another club.

mattyc
05-04-2009, 07:41 AM
I sometimes wonder about the sheer amount of time we, the collective members of ST, have spent talking about Javtokas and whether we will ever see him in a Spurs uniform!

Ed Helicopter Jones
05-04-2009, 11:05 AM
I'd like to see him play in a Spurs summer league.

manufan10
05-04-2009, 02:24 PM
Could Javtokas be the cheap, defensive big the Spurs can get to start next to Duncan? He lacks skills be perhaps he can be the rebounder and shot blocker the Spurs need to add to the mix?

Hmmm ....

I think playing next to Duncan might hide some of his weaknesses. If it's possible, I wouldn't mind bringing him over.

Mr. Body
05-05-2009, 01:46 AM
At least bring his shark tattoo over.

Ditty
05-05-2009, 02:12 AM
would of been good like 2 years ago when they failed to bring him over trade him for a second round pick or trade bait with bonner and maybe cash for a 25-30 pick

TheProfessor
05-05-2009, 10:55 AM
would of been good like 2 years ago when they failed to bring him over trade him for a second round pick or trade bait with bonner and maybe cash for a 25-30 pick
Hmm...you know, that might work, and I don't think you'd need Bonner. Javtokas expressed the desire to come over. Another team might see how Scola is tearing things up and think the Spurs draft solid, under-the-radar role players, why not give Javtokas a shot. Throw in some cash considerations...any other year that wouldn't be enough, but considering the talent available in this draft compared to Javtokas' ability, it could be feasible.

Spursfan092120
05-05-2009, 12:42 PM
it would be good to have Ivan Drago on our team, 2000psi elbows to intimidate opponents.
wouldn't pass the drug tests.

Spursfan092120
05-05-2009, 12:43 PM
At least bring his shark tattoo over.
:tu I was about to say that is one badass tattoo.

tp2021
05-05-2009, 02:10 PM
Could Javtokas be the cheap, defensive big the Spurs can get to start next to Duncan? He lacks skills be perhaps he can be the rebounder and shot blocker the Spurs need to add to the mix?

Hmmm ....

And can run with Tony on the break.

Obstructed_View
05-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Fucking motorcycles.

ploto
05-05-2009, 05:37 PM
Spurs will trade his rights to someone this summer to dump a contract- possibly to Houston to back-up Yao. :lol

xcoriate
05-05-2009, 06:57 PM
Whats his IQ like, we know he's athletic and can block shots, rebound and dunk... but I'd be interested to know if he can be somewhat of a defensive co-anchor with Duncan and play the Rasho role.

Obstructed_View
05-05-2009, 08:56 PM
Whats his IQ like?

See the motorcycle reference.

rayray2k8
05-05-2009, 09:46 PM
Is this guy still playing??

Gino2882
05-05-2009, 10:52 PM
See the motorcycle reference.

That is really no indication of his basketball IQ.

Ben Roethlisberger had a similar motorcycle accident...

Manufan909
05-06-2009, 03:11 AM
Hmm...you know, that might work, and I don't think you'd need Bonner. Javtokas expressed the desire to come over. Another team might see how Scola is tearing things up and think the Spurs draft solid, under-the-radar role players, why not give Javtokas a shot. Throw in some cash considerations...any other year that wouldn't be enough, but considering the talent available in this draft compared to Javtokas' ability, it could be feasible.

When? I know KBP said so, but I really need a more reliable source. Please tell me you have one, so Pop can have Ian and Javtokas to back up Timmy, and forget about Gooden, Sheed, or McDyess.

angelbelow
05-06-2009, 03:58 AM
i was heavily sold by his youtube highlights a couple years ago. we'll see what happens though, im definitely down to see what hes got on our summer league team.

chreph
05-06-2009, 10:40 AM
we know he's athletic and can block shots, rebound and dunk...

SOLD! :toast

Obstructed_View
05-06-2009, 11:46 AM
That is really no indication of his basketball IQ.


The word "basketball" did not precede "IQ".

ploto
05-06-2009, 11:54 AM
He is playing for Lithuania this summer as far as I know. Training in late July- friendly games in August- Eurobasket in September.

Ditty
05-06-2009, 12:18 PM
trade him to sacrmento a long with one of there late second round picks, and michael finleys expiring contract for a early second round pick to get danny green and sergio llull

Bender
05-06-2009, 12:56 PM
I was about to say that is one badass tattoo.
yeah, I like it too. something different from all the others

portnoy1
05-06-2009, 03:17 PM
if he comes over he will be only competing against bonner for the starting spot

actually his fkn playin from the bench on his euro team, fkn wanker
Have you ever considered that he comes off the bench because most european big men shoot 3's and drive to the basket. He would be excellent for the spurs because he blocks shots gets rebounds and doesnt need touches. By the way he is 29 so pop will get him now probably since he is near 30. that seems to be pops thing.

45 bank shot
05-09-2009, 08:45 AM
this guy might be kinda raw on offensive end but he's def. strong and athletic.
Spurs should give him a shot.
so does anyone know if the spurs are sorta looking forward to signing this guy?

Manufan909
05-09-2009, 07:09 PM
this guy might be kinda raw on offensive end but he's def. strong and athletic.
Spurs should give him a shot.
so does anyone know if the spurs are sorta looking forward to signing this guy?

Haven't heard anyhing, I asked that a couple days ago. Hope were hear from Pop who his targets are for the summer league. I'd like the summer league team(not sure how many you can have) to be:

PG- Hill, Williams
SG- Hairston, Mason
SF- Gist
PF- Javtokas
C- Mahinmi, Bourosis

with the givens being:

PG- Parker
SG- Ginobili
SF- Bowen
PF- Duncan
C- Thomas, Bonner

If those 14 make it for the season roster, I hope Bonner is permamently IR, and Williams, Thomas and Bowen are the 11th, 12th, and 13th men.

Am I right in thinking Williams can no longer play on the Toros, as well as Ian?

angelbelow
05-09-2009, 08:32 PM
yea i just think that if hes interested in coming out, we should put him on the summer league team and bring him to training camp. if it turns out that he cant cut it then we can just cut him.

Zocalo
05-09-2009, 10:51 PM
I was always interested in him. I thought he could be a solid rotation player for the Spurs but alas he got a contract overseas and that was that. It would be wishful thinking that he can be a difference maker even if he came over this summer.

pad300
05-10-2009, 01:26 PM
Haven't heard anyhing, I asked that a couple days ago. Hope were hear from Pop who his targets are for the summer league. I'd like the summer league team(not sure how many you can have) to be:

PG- Hill, Williams
SG- Hairston, Mason
SF- Gist
PF- Javtokas
C- Mahinmi, Bourosis

with the givens being:

PG- Parker
SG- Ginobili
SF- Bowen
PF- Duncan
C- Thomas, Bonner

If those 14 make it for the season roster, I hope Bonner is permamently IR, and Williams, Thomas and Bowen are the 11th, 12th, and 13th men.

Am I right in thinking Williams can no longer play on the Toros, as well as Ian?

Javtokas is NOT a PF. He is a C; he does not have the skillset of a PF. He is a paint beast...

Williams can play in the D-league but not as a player sent down from the NBA...If he signs an NBA contract with any team, he cannot be sent to the D-league.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-10-2009, 01:38 PM
Javtokas and Bourousis cannot play summer league. They will be paying with their national teams.

Manufan909
05-11-2009, 04:06 PM
Javtokas is NOT a PF. He is a C; he does not have the skillset of a PF. He is a paint beast...

Williams can play in the D-league but not as a player sent down from the NBA...If he signs an NBA contract with any team, he cannot be sent to the D-league.

Can Ian play PF?

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-17-2009, 09:04 PM
It seems Javtokas already has some big contract offers from some Spanish clubs. Cross him off list.

Marcus Bryant
05-17-2009, 10:23 PM
I guess he got the 3 year, $73 mil Greek contract offer. Anyways, he's not stuck to a rookie scale offer so go suck off your boyfriend.

EricB
05-17-2009, 10:32 PM
It seems Javtokas already has some big contract offers from some Spanish clubs. Cross him off list.



Link?

Or stfu fake greek

objective
05-18-2009, 01:26 AM
Link?

Or stfu fake greek

the link was actually from a post about Zalgiris possibly signing Javtokas, which I'm sure would make the calm and polite fans of Rytas real happy.

http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/end-season-summer-signings-and-rumours-9511/p14.html

------------
Zalgiris Kaunas has shown some interest in Lithuanian bigmen Darjus Lavrinovic and Robertas Javtokas. Both players will probably leave Dinamo Moscow in the summer. Javtokas is also offered to play in couple of Spanish teams and Lavrinovic might end up playing in Italy or Tel-Aviv, which has tried to bring him already in the middle of this season. --------------

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-27-2009, 08:30 PM
I guess Spurs can officially forget about him forever now if this comes true. It is rumors already that he will sign with CSKA which is the 2nd biggest club in world outside NBA.

http://www.ballineurope.com/euroleague-transfers-table/

http://www.lrytas.lt/-12434098421243234832-maskvos-cska-akiratyje-r-javtokas.htm

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=lt&u=http://www.lrytas.lt/-12434098421243234832-maskvos-cska-akiratyje-r-javtokas.htm&ei=uOgdSqKMAZC6M-j14fQF&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.lrytas.lt/-12434098421243234832-maskvos-cska-akiratyje-r-javtokas.htm%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

monosylab1k
05-27-2009, 10:19 PM
he sucks

rayray2k8
05-27-2009, 10:39 PM
The hell, you bored?? :lol
You scared? :D

objective
05-31-2009, 12:57 PM
it's been reported overseas that CSKA will be reducing their budget by 30% due to the economic times and even releasing some of their current players.

Makes Javtokas signing there questionable.

no hard link, article posted on interbasket forums:


CSKA to reduce budget by 30%
Redazione Sportando - 29/05/2009, 14:00

The crisis hits also CSKA

According sportbox.ru, CSKA Moscow is to reduce their budget for the new season and the reduction will be 30% of the current budget according to GM of the club Andrei Vatutin. Vatutin said that the budget of the team last season was between 55 and 60 million dollars which accounts for all the expenses of the team and not just the players.

Given this reduction in the budget it remains a possibility that certain players will be released from the team if they have really high contracts and they don't offer as much.

Bruno
05-31-2009, 01:10 PM
Javtokas will be cheaper than their current players. So maybe CSKA will let go some of its expensive players to sign cheaper ones like Javtokas.
It's also possible that there is nothing behind that rumor. European medias are quite unreliable.

And Javtokas is a quite average player in Europe. Maybe Spurs aren't even interested to sign him.

Kobayagi
05-31-2009, 03:45 PM
it's been reported overseas that CSKA will be reducing their budget by 30% due to the economic times


IS ALL LIES. IT IS PROVEN IN COURT OF GREEK!! IS LIARS IS ALL THEIR IS!!



Anyway....there's some rumours in slovenian media that Smodis might be on his way out. He has some offers from Barcelona, but I guess he'll probably follow coach Messina wherever he goes.

Kill_Bill_Pana
05-31-2009, 04:54 PM
it's been reported overseas that CSKA will be reducing their budget by 30% due to the economic times and even releasing some of their current players.

Makes Javtokas signing there questionable.

no hard link, article posted on interbasket forums:

The budget will go from $60 million to $40 million. That is still the 3rd biggest budget in all Europe. So of course they can easily sign Javtokas if they want him.

ploto
05-31-2009, 08:03 PM
yea i just think that if hes interested in coming out, we should put him on the summer league team and bring him to training camp. if it turns out that he cant cut it then we can just cut him.

He is not coming over for less than a guaranteed contract with what he can earn in Europe.

ploto
05-31-2009, 08:04 PM
there's some rumours in slovenian media that Smodis might be on his way out. He has some offers from Barcelona, but I guess he'll probably follow coach Messina wherever he goes.

Rasho and Smodiš together on the same team??

Kobayagi
05-31-2009, 08:23 PM
Rasho and Smodiš together on the same team??


I don't know. Is Rasho going to Barcelona?


Če gre verjeti ruskim medijem, bo Smodiš hladno Moskvo verjetno (končno) zamenjal za sončno Španijo.

Rasho & Smodis & Lakovic together on the same team? :wow:toast

ploto
05-31-2009, 08:33 PM
I don't know. Is Rasho going to Barcelona?

I just meant how much Rasho loves Messina.

Kobayagi
05-31-2009, 08:42 PM
Oh, I see.


I wouldn't mind Rasho returning to Europe, but I think there's gonna be some NBA team offering him a contract and he'll stay.

TheProfessor
06-24-2009, 10:15 PM
Well, Buford says he's under the impression that Splitter is staying in Europe, but has also said he wants to bring over a couple of overseas players. Could just mean Gist and Nichols, but then again...

ace3g
06-26-2009, 05:40 PM
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robertas-Javtokas/1349689056#/profile.php?id=1349689056

his facebook page, lol, what he is wearing

angelbelow
06-26-2009, 11:30 PM
thats too bad, would have been interesting to see him play in the summer league.

EricB
06-27-2009, 02:19 AM
Screw Javtokas.

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-27-2009, 01:13 PM
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robertas-Javtokas/1349689056#/profile.php?id=1349689056

his facebook page, lol, what he is wearing

:lmao

objective
06-27-2009, 03:34 PM
Javtokas had a new interview posted with Lithuanian media in the past 48 hours.

In it he says that he would like to return to play at the Euroleague level and reveals that he will take less money to do so than he's been making with Dynamo. He says "In the past, I was probably more concerned with the contract amount, but things have changed."

He says he wants the stability and high level competition of the euroleague, and that his life is different now with a family (he has had 2 kids with his wife since the summer of 06). He said that if the wife and kids weren't happy with the environment then he couldn't be happy.

Apparently he is currently without a contract.

LINK (http://www.alfa.lt/straipsnis/10279270/?Javtokas..man.noretusi.grizti.i.Eurolyga=2009-06-27_10-02)

benefactor
06-27-2009, 10:43 PM
He is pretty much out of the picture now. Like Shelden Williams, he could have been an intriguing option before the draft but now there is just no room for him.

objective
06-28-2009, 02:20 AM
While I agree he's probably out of the picture, I disagree on the reasons. The big difference between Javtokas and Blair is that Javtokas is a big-time shot blocker. Blair's not a shotblocker. Wouldn't surprise me if Blair is the better rebounder, but Javtokas is a specialist.

That being said, if things quickly get away from the Spurs soon after July 1 and Gortat, Wallace, McDyess and Pachulia commit to other teams . . . and Javtokas is a free agent, I could see a reasonable case for signing him. LLE would probably work.

ivanfromwestwood
06-28-2009, 05:12 AM
i would shit on myself if the spurs offerd him a contract. its now or never for the spurs. this forum would go ape shit if he signed with us.

Kobayagi
06-28-2009, 05:14 AM
This guy was drafted when? 1976? Time to let go, he's not coming over.

ivanfromwestwood
06-28-2009, 05:26 AM
i dont know about you guys but i would take this over gortat sheed or any other center currently available. this guy can be had for alot less and could be a building block after tim leaves. i drool over the thought of him and splitter together after timmy moves on.


ZNwkeNIOkOo
kvYgYijGCtY&feature=related

objective
06-28-2009, 05:48 AM
Well you can go back in the history of this forum and there probably weren't bigger supporters of signing Javtokas in summer 06 than me or Mr. Body. And history at least vindicates us on how bad Elson and Butler were.

But

The video of the 12 foot dunk was before the motorcycle accident, he can't do that now.

There is another 4+ minute Javtokas highlight video that is much better than the 2 minute cobblejob I threw together.

Furthermore, he's added weight. Not fat, but he's even bigger now. Good for covering the big guys, like Shaq or Yao, but he would have problems guarding quicker, face up big men. And his offensive game has never improved, he's still pretty brutal when not finishing close to the rim. And he's 29 now. Not ancient, after all everybody's celebrating over a 29 year old Jefferson.

Do I still want him? I think I'd rather have Gortat for more money, and I'm not a big Gortat fan. But Gortat is about 4 years younger and a little bigger and already experienced in the NBA. And last I saw of Javtokas I think if there is an agility and lateral quickness advantage I'd give a nod to Gortat.

But if Gortat is out, then sure I'd like Javtokas. He is what he is, a shotblocking enforcer.

ivanfromwestwood
06-28-2009, 06:04 AM
good stuff man. was that video i posted yours? is there any updated video from this year or last?

objective
06-28-2009, 06:18 AM
the first one I threw together just to show fans on a forum who hadn't seen much of him or crawled through the internet to watch crappy live feeds of LKL finals games of Rytas vs. Zalgiris like I did. Later on one of them put it on youtube.

There's a much better videos of him out there. I haven't watched any of his Russian games, just his national team play.

objective
06-28-2009, 06:22 AM
Here's a video, all of the Rytas team footage is at least 3 years old. The national team footage looks like it has some more recent stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7fv4ziVupY

C7fv4ziVupY

objective
06-28-2009, 06:33 AM
Here's some game footage of him with Dynamo, #15 in blue

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ploto
06-28-2009, 09:49 AM
I believe his wife has always wanted to stay in Europe.

Mal
06-29-2009, 07:05 AM
Maccabi Tel Aviv really want him.

objective
06-29-2009, 08:33 PM
yeah, most recent news is Maccabi wants him but won't sign him unless he lowers his asking price.

Obstructed_View
06-30-2009, 01:02 AM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/BeeGees.jpg
Its just you're Javtokas
Youre telling me lies, yeah.
Javtokas
You wear a disguise.
Javtokas
So misunderstood, yeah.
Javtokas
You really no good.

Mr. Body
06-30-2009, 01:11 AM
I doubt if there's even any contact with the Spurs any more.

ivanfromwestwood
06-30-2009, 02:53 AM
yeah, most recent news is Maccabi wants him but won't sign him unless he lowers his asking price. any word on what he's asking for?

K-State Spur
06-30-2009, 09:34 AM
i dont know about you guys but i would take this over gortat sheed or any other center currently available. this guy can be had for alot less and could be a building block after tim leaves. i drool over the thought of him and splitter together after timmy moves on.


ZNwkeNIOkOo
kvYgYijGCtY&feature=related

that's like salivating over a natty light when there's lowenbrau on tap.

ivanfromwestwood
06-30-2009, 11:20 PM
that's like salivating over a natty light when there's lowenbrau on tap.lol wtf is a natty light and lowenbrau

Obstructed_View
07-01-2009, 02:55 AM
lol wtf is a natty light and lowenbrau

:lol

I know what they are but I still don't understand the analogy. Is one of them supposed to be good and the other bad?

Kill_Bill_Pana
07-10-2009, 11:56 AM
Javtokas signed with Khimki Moscow. It is a good move up in level for him because now he will be on a Euroleague team.

bigfan
04-23-2010, 12:01 AM
Yeah, I know, ancient thread but I was curious, the guy is still only 30 and I believe unsigned for next year. I think we still own his rights, if we cant get Splitter how would this guy do as a 5 here?

Manufan909
05-16-2010, 01:09 AM
That'd be hilarious if the two Spurs big men overseas came at the same time. It would suck for Blair though, unless Pop gave up on small ball and/or reduced Tim's PT to 30>x as well as sitting him for b2bs like he lied about last summer.

Fuck... a frontline of Tim/Blair/Dice/Splitter/Javtokas/Bonner would be scary. There would be a spacer, a stat machine having just turned 21, 3 6"11" guys who play D, one of those 3 being a future HOF, and a crafty vet who is the best Spur to put on Dirk since Bowen. Not to mention Blair/Bonner are the 5th/6th bigs. Would the Spurs have a lack of frontline depth for the next couple years? Fuggedaboutit. If anyone got booted i think it would sadly be Blair. Pop seems taken like him like he was with Manu, so I think he's relatively safe. There would actually be good reasons to lose Dice or Bonner. Hope Pop sees Bonner for the playoff choker he is and puts business above his love for Matty.

I really doubt anyone with the Spurs are pushing for Javtokas, even though I bet he'd still be a highly valuable defender who wouldn't need many touches... Like what Ian could have been if Theo had never been signed. And I believe you're right Kori, but I bet his vertical is still more than enough for him to be an enforcer.

If Bruno checks in on this thread, I'd love to know if Javtokas is getting paid over the LLE atm, or would it be relatively easy to bring him on. Hell, I was a bigger supporter of him last summer, but I forgot his name for a bit. There could be a logjam with the bigs next season even without him, so I don't see the point. Hope Pop sees him as an "experience vet". It doesn't matter if he's dirt cheap, there's no reason to target him unless Splitter backs out again, knocks on wood. Or Dice and Bonner both leave somehow.

Bruno
05-16-2010, 11:24 AM
^ IIRC, Javtokas signed a 2 years contract last summer with his Russian team. He isn't a FA this summer. IMO, his salary in Russia is between $1M and $1.5M.

Javtokas could be a decent end of the bench player in the NBA. I would compare him to Brian Skinner. Saying that, I don't see why Spurs would sign him or why Javtokas would leave the Europe.

lurker23
07-15-2010, 04:24 AM
Bump.

@ShamSports

Robertas Javtokas leaves Khimki to go to Valencia. By this time, it is 99.9% certain that he never plays in the NBA.

http://twitter.com/ShamSports/status/18589421541

Bruno
07-15-2010, 01:04 PM
If Nando stays with Valencia, it will allow Javtokas to be more scouted by Spurs.

Saying that, it's likely now too late for him to come in NBA.

lowdown
08-03-2010, 01:21 AM
PE Valencia announced the arrival for the next two seasons of Robertas Javtokas. The Lithuanian big man was free agent after being waived by Khimki.
With the Russian powerhouse, Javtokas averaged 10.1ppg and 6.4rpg in Euroleague.

http://http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/spain/11034/pe_valencia_announces_robertas_javtokas.html (http://http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/spain/11034/pe_valencia_announces_robertas_javtokas.html)

ace3g
08-07-2010, 03:06 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/c0/fullj.a444776845a2a4c2476ab5a89e9fe3a5/a444776845a2a4c2476ab5a89e9fe3a5-getty-basket-world-esp-lit.jpg
Spain's Marc Gasol(notes) (L) vies with Lithuania's Robertas Javtokas (R) on August 07, 2010 at Fernando Buesa Arena in Vitoria, during a basketball match ahead of the world championships.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/9e/fullj.b1dd747f3ddaa3709fd45c8d6d548e70/b1dd747f3ddaa3709fd45c8d6d548e70-getty-basket-world-esp-lit-friendly.jpg

8FOR!3
08-07-2010, 06:07 PM
What an athlete. That dude looks like White Howard.

Blackjack
08-07-2010, 06:27 PM
Javtokas would be a pretty decent bench Big, imo. I actually think he's more suited to the NBA game than the Euro's.

admiralsnackbar
08-07-2010, 06:30 PM
Javtokas would be a pretty decent bench Big, imo. I actually think he's more suited to the NBA game than the Euro's.

Oh well... forward ho. That ship has sunk.

ace3g
08-21-2010, 12:00 PM
USA plays Lithuania today at 3 p.m. EST/ 2 p.m. cst on ESPN, so if you want to see Javtokas play against NBA players...tune in

DPG21920
08-21-2010, 12:35 PM
Gasol looks lean in those pics.

Libri
08-21-2010, 02:26 PM
USA is terrible.

admiralsnackbar
08-21-2010, 02:49 PM
Where is Sanikidze from? Would he be on this Lithuania team?

He's Georgian, I think.

Libri
08-21-2010, 02:56 PM
If Nando stays with Valencia, it will allow Javtokas to be more scouted by Spurs.

Saying that, it's likely now too late for him to come in NBA.

It has been nine years since Javtokas was picked by the Spurs and six years for Sanikidze. Is it safe to say that their time has passed and there is no chance for them to play for the Spurs? They have now been replaced by a new crop of international prospects in de Colo and Ryan Richards.

ace3g
08-21-2010, 03:00 PM
yeah Sanikidze is from the Republic of Georgia

ace3g
08-21-2010, 03:23 PM
is there a box score for this game

Bruno
08-21-2010, 04:02 PM
It has been nine years since Javtokas was picked by the Spurs and six years for Sanikidze. Is it safe to say that their time has passed and there is no chance for them to play for the Spurs?

It doesn't really matter that they've been drafted many years ago. What matters is their age.

Javtokas is 30 years old. If Spurs sign him next summer, he will be 32 years for his first playoffs. Javtokas could have been a decent end of the bench player but it's now too late.

Sanikidze is only 24 years old. There are hundreds of most interesting young players for Spurs to sign than him but you never know. Spurs have nothing to loose at keeping an eye on him.

ace3g
08-22-2010, 09:05 AM
http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/basketball/nba/img13799129.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/usa.lithuania/images/usa-lithuania-5.jpg

elbamba
08-22-2010, 11:57 AM
is there a box score for this game

http://www.usabasketball.com/photos/10_mwc_exh_2_box.pdf

ace3g
08-22-2010, 01:01 PM
http://www.usabasketball.com/photos/10_mwc_exh_2_box.pdf

Thanks

ace3g
08-23-2010, 11:42 PM
FIBA 2010 Players To Watch

Robertas Javtokas #9 of 12

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/fiba.players.to.watch/images/slide6.jpg

A member of the Lithuanian national team since 2002, Robertas Javtokas is one of the best big men in the competition. A motorcycle crash stalled his career in 2002, but Javtokas has since recovered and reclaimed his dominance. The 6-foot-11 center scored 10 points and pulled down six rebounds in an exhibition against Team USA on Aug. 21, holding his own against the likes of Tyson Chandler and Lamar Odom and even getting the better of them in some instances.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/fiba.players.to.watch/content.9.html

Manufan909
08-24-2010, 06:17 PM
I just posted about this in the Splitter in Brasil threads, glad to see others taking notice. I still want him for 3-4 years, if he's at Theo's level and more durable, then go get him, for 2-2.5 mil. I wasn't a fan back in 03, but he could take the enforcer/veteran role Kevin Willis had, no?

And is Tyson back to around his prime yet, or did Robertas face a Chandler who was afraid to get hurt?

admiralsnackbar
08-24-2010, 07:32 PM
I just posted about this in the Splitter in Brasil threads, glad to see others taking notice. I still want him for 3-4 years, if he's at Theo's level and more durable, then go get him, for 2-2.5 mil. I wasn't a fan back in 03, but he could take the enforcer/veteran role Kevin Willis had, no?

And is Tyson back to around his prime yet, or did Robertas face a Chandler who was afraid to get hurt?

Alas, there are details of his 2 season contract with Valencia somewhere on this page.

Thompson
08-25-2010, 09:25 AM
Wouldn't we be better off with Bourousis at this point? I think he actually wants to play for the Spurs, unlike Javtokas. He's also younger.

ace3g
01-19-2011, 05:22 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/32/fullj.220f67fb07dde84f152c5b3ca5e1e8bd/220f67fb07dde84f152c5b3ca5e1e8bd-getty-basket-eurl-valencia-zalgiris.jpg
Power Elec. Valencia 's Robertas Javtokas from Lithuania (L) vies with Zalgiris' Martynas Pocius from Lithuania (TopL) and Omar Samhan from US during the Euroleague basketball match Power Elec. Valencia vs Zalgiris on January 19, 2011 at the Pabellon Fuente de San Luis sportshall in Valencia.

ChuckD
01-19-2011, 09:11 PM
In other news, Mahmood Washington, drafted by the Spurs in the 1974 ABA draft, is tearing up his rec league and hoping to still get his chance in SA.

jjktkk
01-19-2011, 10:24 PM
In other news, Mahmood Washington, drafted by the Spurs in the 1974 ABA draft, is tearing up his rec league and hoping to still get his chance in SA.

Cmon Chuck at least post his bio. :lol

SenorSpur
01-20-2011, 04:10 AM
MAybe the Spurs can convince New Jersey Nets owner Mikhail Prokorov to trade for his rights.

mountainballer
01-20-2011, 12:00 PM
why? because all Russians wish to again own some Lithuanians?

Blackjack
01-24-2011, 03:01 PM
why? because all Russians wish to again own some Lithuanians?

A good dog and a Lithuanian. The kind of things a man just has to have; and some good vodka if Russian.

objective
06-13-2011, 03:43 AM
Looks like Javtokas has changed his game up . . . check him spreading the floor at the end of this clip! Bonner + shark tattoo = Win

UTef68H07QY

Bruno
06-13-2011, 04:16 AM
Javtokas has signed a new contract last week with the Lithuanian team Zalgris.

objective
06-13-2011, 04:18 AM
Zalgiris? How did that happen and I not hear about Rytas fans burning down the country in outrage?

Besides, I wasn't serious about him getting signed. He plays some defense and that means he would be sat down while Bonner minus Shark Tattoo leads the Spurs like usual.

Mr. Body
06-13-2011, 11:06 AM
I'm glad we stopped negotiations with this guy and signed Jackie Butler instead. Now THERE's a decision that didn't have long term impacts...

yavozerb
06-13-2011, 11:18 AM
I'm glad we stopped negotiations with this guy and signed Jackie Butler instead. Now THERE's a decision that didn't have long term impacts...

Ya, Javtokas has been dominating over the years in europe...What were the spurs thinking?:rolleyes

stnick2261
06-13-2011, 12:45 PM
^^^ he's probably referring to the fact that we used Scola's rights to unload Butler's contract and ended up keeping Bonner instead

Javtokas+Scola > Bonner+Butler

yavozerb
06-13-2011, 01:48 PM
^^^ he's probably referring to the fact that we used Scola's rights to unload Butler's contract and ended up keeping Bonner instead

Javtokas+Scola > Bonner+Butler

What are you talking about? Javtokas has nothing to do with scola,bonner,or butler..

stnick2261
06-13-2011, 02:54 PM
I'm glad we stopped negotiations with this guy and signed Jackie Butler instead. Now THERE's a decision that didn't have long term impacts...


Ya, Javtokas has been dominating over the years in europe...What were the spurs thinking?:rolleyes


^^^ he's probably referring to the fact that we used Scola's rights to unload Butler's contract and ended up keeping Bonner instead

Javtokas+Scola > Bonner+Butler


What are you talking about? Javtokas has nothing to do with scola,bonner,or butler..

um.... YOU were the one who quoted Mr Body who referred to Butler.

Yes, the year we were negotiating with Javtokas was the year we decided to sign Butler and Elson instead. Butler was a bust and we used Scola's rights to unload Butler's contract. I'm not saying Javtokas would have made ANY difference on the team... but I agree that, had we signed him, we woudn't have had to unload Butler... thus, we'd still have Scola (which is the real prize)

yavozerb
06-13-2011, 03:36 PM
um.... YOU were the one who quoted Mr Body who referred to Butler.

Yes, the year we were negotiating with Javtokas was the year we decided to sign Butler and Elson instead. Butler was a bust and we used Scola's rights to unload Butler's contract. I'm not saying Javtokas would have made ANY difference on the team... but I agree that, had we signed him, we woudn't have had to unload Butler... thus, we'd still have Scola (which is the real prize)

Wow, you seriously think all that happened because Javatkos was not signed? You really think the spurs would have brought in Scola even after signing Javtkos? You keep coming up with these scenerios and I will concentrate on the present spurs team...

stnick2261
06-13-2011, 05:05 PM
^^^ he's probably referring to the fact that we used Scola's rights to unload Butler's contract and ended up keeping Bonner instead

Javtokas+Scola > Bonner+Butler


Wow, you seriously think all that happened because Javatkos was not signed? You really think the spurs would have brought in Scola even after signing Javtkos? You keep coming up with these scenerios and I will concentrate on the present spurs team...

Dude, I'm not even the one who brought up Butler... get over yourself

ChumpDumper
06-13-2011, 05:38 PM
Waiting for Mr. Body's crackerjack draft analysis tbh.

Mr. Body
06-19-2011, 04:04 AM
The Javtokas business was part of a tipping point in this team's history of adding talent. The Scola issue is separate but vaguely related: they decided to stop negotiating with Javtokas and sign Francisco Elson and Jackie Butler instead. No one is sure how much Javtokas would have cost, i.e. whether they could have had Elson and Javtokas both.

In any case, Elson was gone not too long afterwards, although he was pretty good for us. Meanwhile, the front office massively compounded a bad signing of Butler by trading him away with the rights to Luis Scola to get rid of his contract. I firmly believe that move single-handedly cost us an additional championship. Even Popovich would agree the move was terrible.

As for my draft analysis, I've been pretty good over the years. I've done things like plump guys like Sefolosha and Ronnie Brewer and Nicholas Batum, although only the latter was close to our pick. I've not been horribly wrong about anything at all. Surely here and there, but it's not a big deal. I was happy to get Splitter, overjoyed to get Blair. I did like George Hill before he was drafted, but felt we could have played with the pick because no one else was going for him there, and use Chalmers as a fall back if we had to. I was one of the first people to point out we drafted Mahinmi in the late 1st round, even when most teams didn't know who he was, in order to lock him into a low-level salary after the problems with Scola, although ultimately he didn't work out.

I don't really care about this draft so much because there's not a whole lot that can be done to arrest the long, agonizing decay into mediocrity.

ace3g
03-07-2012, 03:55 PM
hDf7vDfslx0

http://www.projectspurs.com/2012-articles/march/video-javtokas-breaks-the-rim.html

bigfan
06-23-2012, 11:51 PM
So far off the radar now but how old is this guy nowdays? Seems like he had alot of talent and he was a big SoB, any thoughts?

Wild Cobra Kai
06-24-2012, 12:40 AM
So far off the radar now but how old is this guy nowdays? Seems like he had alot of talent and he was a big SoB, any thoughts?

Isn't he like 33 or 34? I think the thing that pisses me off most about Javtokas is that when he STUPIDLY wrecked that cycle, the Spurs paid for everything, medical wise. They TOTALLY didn't have to do that. He was just a long shot prospect. In fact, if he had been under contract, they could have voided it. Then, he tries to play hardball about money. Ungrateful SOB. F him anyway.

If you want that same athletic package, just move up in the second and draft Plumlee from Duke. He's younger, and hasn't been in any serious motorcycle wrecks.

BackHome
06-24-2012, 06:30 PM
Yeah, I remember his agent playing hard ass with us after everything this organization did for you and you play hardball. What a piece of shit!!!

ace3g
07-17-2012, 02:34 PM
LTU - Stress fracture knocks Javtokas out of London Games

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/52896/arti.html

RodNIc91
07-17-2012, 04:25 PM
That is too bad. ace3g, Were the spurs high on him? What happened to this guy over the years??

Wild Cobra Kai
07-22-2012, 08:57 AM
That is too bad. ace3g, Were the spurs high on him? What happened to this guy over the years??

The Cliff's Notes version:

He wrecked his motorcycle and turned into a greedy asshole.

The end.

BackHome
07-29-2012, 02:34 PM
LTU - Stress fracture knocks Javtokas out of London Games

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/52896/arti.html

Karma is a bitch...:hat

bigfan
08-10-2012, 11:46 PM
The guy is still only 32 and has been a dominant center in Europe for years. The guy had a bike wreck but from what I remember he was trying to get a deal with the Spurs and at the time they were sorta jerking him around. That said, its been a long time since and we frickin need a big center with some spine, esp in light of the Lakers new guy. I would like to see the Spurs try to bring him over and buy him out of whatever contract he has over there.

jyra
08-11-2012, 12:40 AM
The guy is still only 32 and has been a dominant center in Europe for years.

Sorry to break it to you but this guy has been nothing remotely close to dominant (more like dormant..) the last couple of years.
In the last Euroleague season he averaged 6.3 points and 5.2 rebounds per game while shooting a Biedrinsesque 42.1% from the free throw line. He can still bang some in the post and throw up some ugly hooks but he lost pretty much all of his athletic ability at this point.

ace3g
08-05-2013, 03:47 PM
highlight from Lithuania vs Belgium match today


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIP5DctM-4I

Boxscore:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9UPKz9YZuZsN19tQjM5aG43U2c/edit

<a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9UPKz9YZuZsN19tQjM5aG43U2c/edit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjbMfHn4rR4&amp;feature=player_detailpage
(https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9UPKz9YZuZsN19tQjM5aG43U2c/edit)

ace3g
01-12-2015, 07:59 PM
quick update


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjsnAXG1CI&amp;feature=youtu.be

Chinook
01-13-2015, 08:29 AM
Would have been interesting.

exstatic
01-13-2015, 08:36 AM
quick update


Why? Dude is like mid 30s.

exstatic
01-13-2015, 08:37 AM
Would have been interesting.

10 years ago...

pad300
01-13-2015, 11:34 PM
10 years ago...

Yep, I wanted him instead of Francisco Elson and Jackie Butler. Might have worked out much better...

DrunkTXLabrat
01-16-2015, 11:34 PM
This guy got in a motorcycle accident or something?

DrunkTXLabrat
01-16-2015, 11:38 PM
Spurs own rights to a guy who never even gets a jersey number because x happened while he was not a spur. Glad the spurs learned from that experience.

ChumpDumper
01-17-2015, 01:34 AM
You're not a Spurs fan, so why are you here?

DrunkTXLabrat
01-17-2015, 11:03 AM
i'm more of a spurs fan than you can understand.

http://youtu.be/QMb9OuDR-0I

exstatic
01-19-2015, 09:45 PM
You're not a Spurs fan, so why are you here?

DrunkTXLabrat
01-20-2015, 10:54 AM
because you're not a spurs fan either.

exstatic
01-21-2015, 09:16 PM
because you're not a spurs fan either.

Sure I am. Every position I have ever taken on this board says I am. I DO NOT want our prospects to fuck with the front office on Twitter, and tell them to fuck off. I want our prospects to recover from their respective knee surgeries on some Euro team's dime, and then come over and kick ass.

DrunkTXLabrat
01-23-2015, 11:21 PM
Sure I am. Every position I have ever taken on this board says I am. I DO NOT want our prospects to fuck with the front office on Twitter, and tell them to fuck off. I want our prospects to recover from their respective knee surgeries on some Euro team's dime, and then come over and kick ass.

Every position i've ever seen you take says you want worse for the spurs draft and stashers than my worst imaginings.

exstatic
01-24-2015, 02:05 PM
Every position i've ever seen you take says you want worse for the spurs draft and stashers than my worst imaginings.

You must have failed reading comprehension, then. Let me be clear: I want Bertans and LJC on the roster next year. I want them to do well.

DrunkTXLabrat
01-24-2015, 07:26 PM
Exstatic, I would like to have some sort of philosophical showdown with you. But I can't argue my points to you. You deal in concrete, I deal in dream. The best I can tell you is look at hook and peter pan, who is the bad guy? My woulda coulda shouldas are just venting. Your ares so sit back and shut up are pop sucking. It's as simple as that.

DrunkTXLabrat
01-24-2015, 07:29 PM
Don't grow up vs grow up. The thing about dont grow ups is they have to grow, they have to learn, they have to play, they have to get shitty grown ups outta the way. But even older grown ups never see the value. They only see concrete.

exstatic
01-24-2015, 09:36 PM
Your head is concrete.

DrunkTXLabrat
01-25-2015, 09:10 AM
Your head is concrete.

My friend, you're even older than a grown up.

exstatic
01-25-2015, 09:23 AM
My friend, you're even older than a grown up.

If by that you mean that I live in the real world, and see things as they really are, I take that as a complement. Dreamers are rarely happy or content.

DrunkTXLabrat
01-25-2015, 03:57 PM
If by that you mean that I live in the real world, and see things as they really are, I take that as a complement. Dreamers are rarely happy or content.

You are the bad guy at the end of lego movie.

buttsR4rebounding
01-28-2015, 11:34 AM
You are the bad guy at the end of lego movie.

Damn, exstatic, will you be able to recover from that?