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xamila rey
04-30-2009, 12:13 PM
"Tuve mucha bronca, quedar eliminado sin jugar fue muy feo"

Por Manu Ginóbili
Para LA NACION

SAN ANTONIO.- Ahora sí estoy de vacaciones; antes también lo estaba, pero éstas son oficiales. Igual, voy a que quedarme por acá porque en 3 o 4 semanas debo hacerme un chequeo, tienen que ver cómo está lo de la fractura en el peroné que, según una radiografía de ayer, marcó un buen progreso del callo. Así que mientras tanto seguiré con el mantenimiento físico, bicicleta, natación y pesas. Lo más aburrido.

Anteanoche, lo que se vivió en el estadio fue muy duro, especialmente para mí, que lo vi de afuera, pero tengo que bancármela. La verdad es que Dallas fue bastante superior toda la serie y ganó claramente. Nosotros erramos tiros clave y ellos metieron triples psicológicamente decisivos. Después de estar 1-3 abajo en la serie, no me sorprendió la eliminación. Sabía que iba a resultar imposible darla vuelta. Ellos fueron mejorando en cada juego y nosotros terminamos bastante achacados.

En cuanto a mis sensaciones, tuve mucha bronca, quedar eliminado sin jugar es muy feo. Hubiera preferido estar adentro, colaborando con mis compañeros. Fue algo muy triste sentir esa impotencia. Quedé mal, fue algo difícil de digerir. Por momentos hasta me sentí en deuda. Es que, después de tantos años en la franquicia y jugando juntos se va formando un gran compromiso.

Esta no fue una eliminación como aquella del triple de Derek Fisher en el último segundo contra los Lakers o la del 7mo juego con Dallas, también sobre el final. Esas fueron dolorosas. Esta fue amarga, fea. Encima perdimos con el gran rival de Texas y cuando había un mucho ambiente en el estadio, con gran expectativa. Acá la gente quiere ganarles siempre a los Lakers porque es como Boca, el equipo fuerte y popular; pero contra Dallas es como el clásico del barrio. Por suerte, el público se comportó 10 puntos. No hubo silbidos ni abucheos. Tampoco una ovación, pero nos aplaudieron al final. Fue un momento fuerte.

No sé qué pasará el año próximo. San Antonio no tiene ninguna buena elección en el draft, pero supongo que algún cambio habrá. No creo que se altere la estructura, porque con la que tuvimos este año terminamos 3eros en el Oeste y sólo perdimos 2 partidos más que en la temporada anterior durante la serie regular. Lo que ocurrió es que no estuvimos sanos. Faltó Tony (Parker) algunos partidos; Tim jugó muchas veces lesionado y yo falté más que nunca.

Ya sé que se habla de que los Spurs deben renovarse, pero no creo que cambie mucho. Fueron como 12 años de estar arriba y la franquicia es muy cauta; aunque si vemos el crecimiento de Lakers, Boston y Cleveland, es cierto que no estamos tan cerca.

Yo creo que van a seguir aprovechando la permanencia de nosotros tres (Tony y Tim). No pienso que haya una reconstrucción como ocurre en otros equipos, al menos hasta que no se retire Duncan. Seguramente los cambios se producirán en los jugadores de rol.

No diría que este fue un mal año para mí, sí que fue muy diferente en lo físico y mental. En el juego no tanto, porque mientras estuve activo jugué en mi nivel y tuve buenos números, quizá con menos minutos.

Pero fue diferente porque pasé mucho tiempo en la pileta y en la bicicleta, recuperándome. Además, sigo creyendo que si estábamos todos bien podíamos pelear el título, aunque acepto que los Lakers y Cleveland pueden ser superiores, pero había que ver en los playoffs.

Ahora seguiré metido con el facebook (allí abajo tienen la dirección), aprovecharé para tomar unas vacaciones y volver a la Argentina a cumplir con varios compromisos de la fundación y de Unicef, pero fundamentalmente para ponerme bien y retornar acá para ganar el campeonato. Estoy mal acostumbrado.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1123248&pid=6342036&toi=6291

silverblackfan
04-30-2009, 12:24 PM
By Manu Ginóbili
To THE NATION

SAN ANTONIO .- Now I'm on vacation, so it was before, but they are official. Like, I'm going to stay here because in 3 or 4 weeks I get a check, they have to see what is the fracture of the fibula, according to an X-ray yesterday, was a good progress of the callus. So while I will continue with the fitness, cycling, swimming and weights. The most boring.

Before last, which took place at the stadium was very hard, especially for me, I saw him outside, but I have to bancármela. The truth is that Dallas was well above the entire series and won clearly. We err key shots and put them psychologically critical triples. After being down 1-3 in the series, I was not surprised disposal. I knew it would be impossible to give back. They were improving in every game and we ended up fairly attributed.

As for my feelings, I was pretty angry, be removed without playing is very ugly. Would have preferred to be inside, working with my colleagues. It was very sad that you feel powerless. I was wrong, it was somewhat difficult to digest. At times I felt indebted to. Is that, after so many years in the franchise and playing together are forming a big commitment.

This was not an elimination like that Derek Fisher three times in the final seconds against the Lakers or the 7th game in Dallas, also on the end. Those were painful. This was bitter, ugly. Lost over the great rival of Texas and when he had a great atmosphere in the stadium, with great expectation. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because he is as Boca, the team strong and popular, but against Dallas is like the classic neighborhood. Fortunately, the audience behaved 10 points. There was no booing or whistling. Neither an ovation, but we applauded at the end. It was a moment.

I do not know what will happen next year. San Antonio has no good choice in the draft, but I guess there will be any change. I do not believe that altering the structure, because we had to finish this year in West 3eros and only lost 2 matches in the previous season during the regular series. What happened is that we were not healthy. Missed Tony (Parker) some parties; Tim often played injured and I needed more than ever.

I know there is talk that the Spurs should be renewed, but I do not think it changes much. As were 12 years of being up and the franchise is very cautious, but if we see growth Lakers, Boston and Cleveland, it is true that we are not so close.

I think that will continue to use the remaining three of us (Tony and Tim). I do not think there is a reconstruction as in other teams, at least until it is withdrawn Duncan. Surely there will be changes in the role-players.

I would not say that this was a bad year for me, it was very different in physical and mental. In the game, not so much because I played while I was active on my level and I had good numbers, perhaps with fewer minutes.

But it was different because I spent much time in the pool and the bike recovered. Besides, I still believe that if we were all we could to fight the title either, although I agree that the Lakers and Cleveland may be higher, but had to do in the playoffs.

Now I will put the facebook (down there have the address), to take vacation and return to Argentina to meet the commitments of the Foundation and Unicef, but mainly to get well and back here to win the championship. I'm spoiled.

silverblackfan
04-30-2009, 12:26 PM
-- Google translated so it is a bit oddly worded.

DBMethos
04-30-2009, 12:29 PM
"Fortunately, the audience behaved 10 points."

I like this line.

Borosai
04-30-2009, 12:32 PM
Is anyone else in the process of translating it? If not, I'll do it.

rayray2k8
04-30-2009, 12:45 PM
Manu basically agrees that there won't be significant changes, but some changes are needed.
For role players that is.
Also, is it true that the spurs don't have any good picks this draft??
I know we gave up a first round pick to Seattle back then, but nothing??

urunobili
04-30-2009, 12:52 PM
ok got it give me 45 min

bobbybob0
04-30-2009, 01:03 PM
We err key shots and put them psychologically critical triples.

:downspin:

DAF86
04-30-2009, 01:03 PM
By Manu Ginóbili
To THE NATION.

:lol Manu for president.

Actually "La Nacion" is the name of the newspaper he wrote this for.

DAF86
04-30-2009, 01:05 PM
:downspin:

We missed key shots and they made some critical three pointers to change the momentum of games.

Borosai
04-30-2009, 01:05 PM
ok got it give me 45 min

:elephant

urunobili
04-30-2009, 01:11 PM
sorry guys got tied up on a phone and then i have a meeting so i wont be able to do this until one more should

mytespurs
04-30-2009, 01:33 PM
Thanks Urunobili! Can't wait to read it.

I wonder if Manu had been facebooking during the playoff series.

Ed Helicopter Jones
04-30-2009, 01:36 PM
I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?



By Manu Ginóbili
To SPAMNATION

SAN ANTONIO - Now I'm finally on vacation, just like the rest of my team was throughout the first round of the playoffs. My Super Manu foot will need another 3 or 4 weeks to heal, and they'll re-evaluate it then. In the meantime I'm stuck cycling, swimming, lifting weights and chillin' with the hotties on the beach. Borrring!

As for the series, to be SuperMan-u, and have to watch this series from the sidelines was very tough. The truth is that Dallas was the better team throughout the entire series and deserved to win. We miss our shots and they hit theirs...scoreboard fellas, usually the team that scores more wins. After being down 1-3 in the series, everyone not named Tim or Tony mailed it in. Can you blame them? We were doomed from the start...you have seen our roster haven't you? Dallas improved every game and we countered with Michael Finley and Matt Bonner...good god. And thanks for stepping up in my absence, Money...thanks.

As for my feelings, frankly I'm pissed! Put me out there with my homies and I can make any team look good. The only way to stop me is to not play me. I know this, the league knows this. Everyone who's ever fondled a basketball late at night knows this.

This was not a loss like those in the past to the Lakers. We lost to the Mavs!!! The Mavs!!! The fvckin' Mavs!!! Pathetic. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because they're always pumped up in the media and Kobe is Kobe, but beating Dallas should be like beating up that retarded kid who lives down the street. It should be easy and fun. Fortunately for us, the audience didn't go postal and start rioting like a bunch of stupid soccer fans at the end of that debacle. Soccer fans are retarded, just like little Mikey who lives four doors down.

I do not know what will happen next year. Of course we traded away our first round pick, don't we always?! So there's no help coming in the draft. I do not believe that altering the structure of the team will happen because the FO won't spend any money. We weren't healthy, and so we'll probably stick with that excuse for our early playoff exit. Why not...it worked last year! My guess, knowing our front office, is that we can all prepare for more Finlinator in '09-'10 people, you know it's coming!! But you know, we've been the toast of the league for 12 years. Maybe LA, Boston and Cleveland are better now...but you didn't hear that from me.

I think that the Spurs organization will continue to use and abuse the three of us (Tony and Tim). Until Duncan retires this organization will milk every last ounce of worth right out of us without any real help. However, I can only hope and pray (I guess not pray, actually) that there will be changes in the role-players because, as you may have noticed, our role players suck ass.

I would not say that this was a bad year for me, hell, if nothing else I'm $8,000,000 richer, so every day is a good day.

But, in case you didn't catch it when I said it before, I spent a lot of time in the pool, lifting weights, on the bike, and hanging on the beach with the hotties. But next year, when I'm healthy, look out bitches! I believe I can even carry this bunch of geriatrics to the title if that's what I'm stuck with, because, I am, SuperMan-u!

Look for me on Facebook, and I'll Twitter about how I'm sipping champagne on some private beach somewhere. Then I'll return to Argentina where I guess I'll honor my commitments to various charities...blah...blah...blah. It's good to be a gangsta!

duncan228
04-30-2009, 01:59 PM
(I guess not pray, actually)

:lol Great stuff Chopper.

urunobili
04-30-2009, 02:29 PM
I was really angry to be eliminated without being able to play. It was ugly.

by Manu

Translation by urunobili

SAN ANTONIO.- Now I am on vacations; before I was as well, but not officially. Anyway, I will be staying in San Antonio 3, 4 more weeks, I have to run some more studies on my foot, to see how the fracture evolved, as per an x-ray taken yesterday, it has shown good progress on its healing. So in the meantime I’ll keep on working on my physical conditioning, cycling, swimming and weight lifting all boring stuff.

The day before yesterday, what I lived on our arena was very tough, especially for me that I saw it from the bench, but I have to withstand it. Truly, Dallas was vastly superior the whole series and won clearly. We missed key shots and they scored psychologically decisive triples. After being 1-3 down in the series I wasn’t surprised with the elimination. I knew it was going to be impossible to turn it around. They got better on every game and we finished pretty beat up.

Regarding my feelings, I had a lot of anger, being eliminated without playing is very ugly. I would have preferred to be on the court collaborating with my teammates. It was something really sad to feel powerless that way. I was really bad, it was tough to digest. For moments I even felt that I have a debt or something like that. And that because after so many years with the franchise and playing together a great compromise comes with that.

This elimination wasn’t like the 0.4 one against the Lakers or the one on the 7th game against Dallas at the end as well. Those were painful. This one is bitter, ugly. On top of that we lost with our great Texan rival and there were a lot of expectations at the arena. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because they’re like Boca (tn: one of the Biggest Argentinean Soccer clubs) the strong and popular team; but against Dallas is like losing the neighborhood classic. Luckily the crowd was 10 points. There was neither whistling nor booing. It wasn’t an ovation either but we left the place being applauded. It was an intense moment.

I don’t know what will happen next year. San Antonio doesn’t have a high draft pick, but I guess that changes will come. I don’t think the structure will be altered because we just finished 3rd in the west and we only lost 2 more games than we did last year on the regular season. What happened is that we were not healthy. Tony missed some games; Tim played while on pain many times and I wasn’t there myself more than ever.

I know its being talked everywhere already that the Spurs should refurbish, but I don’t think a lot will change. It has been like 12 years being right on top and the franchise is really cautious; but if we see the growth of the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland truth is we are not that close.

I think that they will keep taking advantage of us three (TP, TD and I). I don’t think that a reconstruction like other teams do is in the making, at least not until Duncan retires. Probably the changes will come mostly in the role players.

I wouldn’t say it was a bad year for me; indeed it was very different on the physical and mental side. On the game not so much, because while I was active, I played on my level and I also had good numbers maybe with even less minutes.

But it was different because I spent a lot of time swimming and cycling recovering from injuries. More so, I still believe that if we were all healthy we had a chance to fight for the title but I accept that the Lakers and Cleveland could be superior, it was just a matter to see it on the Playoffs.

Now I’ll keep on blogging on Facebook (You have the address down there <ManuGinobili>) I’ll take the opportunity to take some vacations and go back to Argentina to take care of some work that needs to be done for my foundation and UNICEF, but mostly to get on shape and come back to win another ring. I’m spoiled.

Borosai
04-30-2009, 02:29 PM
First there was the photochop.

Now we have the articlechop.

Well done. :lol

duncan228
04-30-2009, 02:33 PM
I’m spoiled.

So are we Manu, so are we. Thanks for your part in spoiling us. Get well, we need you.

Spurs Brazil
04-30-2009, 02:38 PM
I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?



By Manu Ginóbili
To SPAMNATION

SAN ANTONIO - Now I'm finally on vacation, just like the rest of my team was throughout the first round of the playoffs. My Super Manu foot will need another 3 or 4 weeks to heal, and they'll re-evaluate it then. In the meantime I'm stuck cycling, swimming, lifting weights and chillin' with the hotties on the beach. Borrring!

As for the series, to be SuperMan-u, and have to watch this series from the sidelines was very tough. The truth is that Dallas was the better team throughout the entire series and deserved to win. We miss our shots and they hit theirs...scoreboard fellas, usually the team that scores more wins. After being down 1-3 in the series, everyone not named Tim or Tony mailed it in. Can you blame them? We were doomed from the start...you have seen our roster haven't you? Dallas improved every game and we countered with Michael Finley and Matt Bonner...good god. And thanks for stepping up in my absence, Money...thanks.

As for my feelings, frankly I'm pissed! Put me out there with my homies and I can make any team look good. The only way to stop me is to not play me. I know this, the league knows this. Everyone who's ever fondled a basketball late at night knows this.

This was not a loss like those in the past to the Lakers. We lost to the Mavs!!! The Mavs!!! The fvckin' Mavs!!! Pathetic. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because they're always pumped up in the media and Kobe is Kobe, but beating Dallas should be like beating up that retarded kid who lives down the street. It should be easy and fun. Fortunately for us, the audience didn't go postal and start rioting like a bunch of stupid soccer fans at the end of that debacle. Soccer fans are retarded, just like little Mikey who lives four doors down.

I do not know what will happen next year. Of course we traded away our first round pick, don't we always?! So there's no help coming in the draft. I do not believe that altering the structure of the team will happen because the FO won't spend any money. We weren't healthy, and so we'll probably stick with that excuse for our early playoff exit. Why not...it worked last year! My guess, knowing our front office, is that we can all prepare for more Finlinator in '09-'10 people, you know it's coming!! But you know, we've been the toast of the league for 12 years. Maybe LA, Boston and Cleveland are better now...but you didn't hear that from me.

I think that the Spurs organization will continue to use and abuse the three of us (Tony and Tim). Until Duncan retires this organization will milk every last ounce of worth right out of us without any real help. However, I can only hope and pray (I guess not pray, actually) that there will be changes in the role-players because, as you may have noticed, our role players suck ass.

I would not say that this was a bad year for me, hell, if nothing else I'm $8,000,000 richer, so every day is a good day.

But, in case you didn't catch it when I said it before, I spent a lot of time in the pool, lifting weights, on the bike, and hanging on the beach with the hotties. But next year, when I'm healthy, look out bitches! I believe I can even carry this bunch of geriatrics to the title if that's what I'm stuck with, because, I am, SuperMan-u!

Look for me on Facebook, and I'll Twitter about how I'm sipping champagne on some private beach somewhere. Then I'll return to Argentina where I guess I'll honor my commitments to various charities...blah...blah...blah. It's good to be a gangsta!

:lol:lol:lol

josh0414
04-30-2009, 02:41 PM
:downspin:

1Parker1
04-30-2009, 04:22 PM
I know its being talked everywhere already that the Spurs should refurbish, but I don’t think a lot will change. It has been like 12 years being right on top and the franchise is really cautious; but if we see the growth of the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland truth is we are not that close.

Interesting...so he doesn't think much will change, but in reality the Spurs should as even with him healthy, they aren't good as the top 3 teams. Good thing he agrees with the Fans consensus. :lol

porscha
04-30-2009, 04:29 PM
thanks urunobili

porscha
04-30-2009, 04:30 PM
!

:lol:lol

temujin
04-30-2009, 04:35 PM
Manu Ginobili should have a personal orthopedist for an independent advice, that is not influenced by the vested interests of the Spurs and Argentina's national team to play him no-matter-what.

There is still one and only Manu in this world.

Get well champ!

tp2021
04-30-2009, 05:30 PM
Thanks uru. :tu

kace
05-01-2009, 03:17 AM
I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?



By Manu Ginóbili
To SPAMNATION

SAN ANTONIO - Now I'm finally on vacation, just like the rest of my team was throughout the first round of the playoffs. My Super Manu foot will need another 3 or 4 weeks to heal, and they'll re-evaluate it then. In the meantime I'm stuck cycling, swimming, lifting weights and chillin' with the hotties on the beach. Borrring!

As for the series, to be SuperMan-u, and have to watch this series from the sidelines was very tough. The truth is that Dallas was the better team throughout the entire series and deserved to win. We miss our shots and they hit theirs...scoreboard fellas, usually the team that scores more wins. After being down 1-3 in the series, everyone not named Tim or Tony mailed it in. Can you blame them? We were doomed from the start...you have seen our roster haven't you? Dallas improved every game and we countered with Michael Finley and Matt Bonner...good god. And thanks for stepping up in my absence, Money...thanks.

As for my feelings, frankly I'm pissed! Put me out there with my homies and I can make any team look good. The only way to stop me is to not play me. I know this, the league knows this. Everyone who's ever fondled a basketball late at night knows this.

This was not a loss like those in the past to the Lakers. We lost to the Mavs!!! The Mavs!!! The fvckin' Mavs!!! Pathetic. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because they're always pumped up in the media and Kobe is Kobe, but beating Dallas should be like beating up that retarded kid who lives down the street. It should be easy and fun. Fortunately for us, the audience didn't go postal and start rioting like a bunch of stupid soccer fans at the end of that debacle. Soccer fans are retarded, just like little Mikey who lives four doors down.

I do not know what will happen next year. Of course we traded away our first round pick, don't we always?! So there's no help coming in the draft. I do not believe that altering the structure of the team will happen because the FO won't spend any money. We weren't healthy, and so we'll probably stick with that excuse for our early playoff exit. Why not...it worked last year! My guess, knowing our front office, is that we can all prepare for more Finlinator in '09-'10 people, you know it's coming!! But you know, we've been the toast of the league for 12 years. Maybe LA, Boston and Cleveland are better now...but you didn't hear that from me.

I think that the Spurs organization will continue to use and abuse the three of us (Tony and Tim). Until Duncan retires this organization will milk every last ounce of worth right out of us without any real help. However, I can only hope and pray (I guess not pray, actually) that there will be changes in the role-players because, as you may have noticed, our role players suck ass.

I would not say that this was a bad year for me, hell, if nothing else I'm $8,000,000 richer, so every day is a good day.

But, in case you didn't catch it when I said it before, I spent a lot of time in the pool, lifting weights, on the bike, and hanging on the beach with the hotties. But next year, when I'm healthy, look out bitches! I believe I can even carry this bunch of geriatrics to the title if that's what I'm stuck with, because, I am, SuperMan-u!

Look for me on Facebook, and I'll Twitter about how I'm sipping champagne on some private beach somewhere. Then I'll return to Argentina where I guess I'll honor my commitments to various charities...blah...blah...blah. It's good to be a gangsta!

:rollin



I wouldn’t say it was a bad year for me;

:wow :wtf

anyway, get well manu, we'll need you next year, especially int the PO.

timvp
05-01-2009, 03:30 AM
I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?



By Manu Ginóbili
To SPAMNATION

SAN ANTONIO - Now I'm finally on vacation, just like the rest of my team was throughout the first round of the playoffs. My Super Manu foot will need another 3 or 4 weeks to heal, and they'll re-evaluate it then. In the meantime I'm stuck cycling, swimming, lifting weights and chillin' with the hotties on the beach. Borrring!

As for the series, to be SuperMan-u, and have to watch this series from the sidelines was very tough. The truth is that Dallas was the better team throughout the entire series and deserved to win. We miss our shots and they hit theirs...scoreboard fellas, usually the team that scores more wins. After being down 1-3 in the series, everyone not named Tim or Tony mailed it in. Can you blame them? We were doomed from the start...you have seen our roster haven't you? Dallas improved every game and we countered with Michael Finley and Matt Bonner...good god. And thanks for stepping up in my absence, Money...thanks.

As for my feelings, frankly I'm pissed! Put me out there with my homies and I can make any team look good. The only way to stop me is to not play me. I know this, the league knows this. Everyone who's ever fondled a basketball late at night knows this.

This was not a loss like those in the past to the Lakers. We lost to the Mavs!!! The Mavs!!! The fvckin' Mavs!!! Pathetic. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because they're always pumped up in the media and Kobe is Kobe, but beating Dallas should be like beating up that retarded kid who lives down the street. It should be easy and fun. Fortunately for us, the audience didn't go postal and start rioting like a bunch of stupid soccer fans at the end of that debacle. Soccer fans are retarded, just like little Mikey who lives four doors down.

I do not know what will happen next year. Of course we traded away our first round pick, don't we always?! So there's no help coming in the draft. I do not believe that altering the structure of the team will happen because the FO won't spend any money. We weren't healthy, and so we'll probably stick with that excuse for our early playoff exit. Why not...it worked last year! My guess, knowing our front office, is that we can all prepare for more Finlinator in '09-'10 people, you know it's coming!! But you know, we've been the toast of the league for 12 years. Maybe LA, Boston and Cleveland are better now...but you didn't hear that from me.

I think that the Spurs organization will continue to use and abuse the three of us (Tony and Tim). Until Duncan retires this organization will milk every last ounce of worth right out of us without any real help. However, I can only hope and pray (I guess not pray, actually) that there will be changes in the role-players because, as you may have noticed, our role players suck ass.

I would not say that this was a bad year for me, hell, if nothing else I'm $8,000,000 richer, so every day is a good day.

But, in case you didn't catch it when I said it before, I spent a lot of time in the pool, lifting weights, on the bike, and hanging on the beach with the hotties. But next year, when I'm healthy, look out bitches! I believe I can even carry this bunch of geriatrics to the title if that's what I'm stuck with, because, I am, SuperMan-u!

Look for me on Facebook, and I'll Twitter about how I'm sipping champagne on some private beach somewhere. Then I'll return to Argentina where I guess I'll honor my commitments to various charities...blah...blah...blah. It's good to be a gangsta!

:lmao

timvp
05-01-2009, 03:44 AM
Great job, urunobili. Nice work all season. I'm sure translating isn't the funnest thing to do.

Sounds like Manu is in a good frame of mind.



I know its being talked everywhere already that the Spurs should refurbish, but I don’t think a lot will change. It has been like 12 years being right on top and the franchise is really cautious; but if we see the growth of the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland truth is we are not that close. Is he saying that if the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland get better that the Spurs won't be close to that level without some help?

That's difficult to argue with.


I wouldn’t say it was a bad year for me; indeed it was very different on the physical and mental side. On the game not so much, because while I was active, I played on my level and I also had good numbers maybe with even less minutes.Kinda weird thing to say but I do agree that his stats were better than people are giving him credit for. The only thing that wasn't as good as ever was his three-point shooting. Get that back to a normal level and he would have been right on pace with his 2008 regular season.

Can't wait to see Manu play basketball again :hungry:

kace
05-01-2009, 04:17 AM
how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating. :depressed

Walton Buys Off Me
05-01-2009, 11:38 AM
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As for my feelings, I was pretty angry, be removed without playing is very ugly. Would have preferred to be inside, working with my colleagues. It was very sad that you feel powerless. I was wrong, it was somewhat difficult to digest. At times I felt indebted to. Is that, after so many years in the franchise and playing together are forming a big commitment.

Bingo.

kace
05-01-2009, 02:48 PM
Allen is a pure jump shooter that doesn't frequently attack the basket. Most of his shots are off screens.

Manu is more of a slasher. He is expends so much energy when he is out on the court, diving for a lose ball; attacking the basket.

Totally 2 different kinds of players.

i talked about that in my post but that's mainly false. Allen has been seen all his career as a jump shooter because he has a great and very pure shot. but he can attack the rim almost as well as any slashers. he's and has always been very athletic:

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ElNono
05-01-2009, 03:31 PM
i talked about that in my post but that's mainly false. Allen has been seen all his career as a jump shooter because he has a great and very pure shot. but he can attack the rim almost as well as any slashers. he's and has always been very athletic:


Manu used to play well over 30 mpg before coming to the NBA. And he used to attack the basket a lot more than he does now. But once you get on a rhythm of 25 mpg, any increase will cause fatigue. I think as we see him go to his jump shot more (and this is inevitable), he will be able to play more also.
And BTW, Manu does average almost 31 mpg in the playoffs, which pretty much tells you this is more of a coaching decision than anything else.
The big difference with Ray Allen is that Allen's shot is his primary weapon, and driving is really secondary. Manu has improved his shot considerably in the last couple of years, but his shot was (and arguable still isn't) as good as Allen. So driving is necessarily his weapon of choice.

it's me
05-01-2009, 05:04 PM
how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating. :depressed

That’s a good question, I’m with the guys stating they have different games…. If we follow your logic…. how come Tony being 26 years old gets dead tire on the fourth quarter of almost every game ???........ coz the guy drives it to the hole constantly the whole fucking game.

holcs50
05-01-2009, 07:25 PM
how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating. :depressed


I've read reports on Ray and the guy has always treated his body like a temple. He's never drank or been involved with drugs and works extremely hard (not saying manu doesn't do any of that). But I can see how he can sustain tough games like that with his work ethic. And I agree with some people about their playing styles, I mean ray is one of the all-time great pure shooters...though I think some aren't giving him credit for his ability to take it to the rim, because he can do that effectively even at his age. But like another poster said, players have to respect his shot first so it's easier to get to the rim-where with manu it's the other way around, drive first. Both great players, Ray being a level higher IMO when looking at their careers.

urunobili
05-01-2009, 07:59 PM
Great job, urunobili. Nice work all season. I'm sure translating isn't the funnest thing to do.

Thank YOU timvp... I like doing it since it makes me feel that i can contribute someway to ST :tu I think I found what my role on the team is :)



Sounds like Manu is in a good frame of mind.

Is he saying that if the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland get better that the Spurs won't be close to that level without some help?

That's difficult to argue with.

I think he was more saying that with the way the Spurs are currently set, they are not able to compete with them (FTL, Cleva and Punktics) since they got better already... from there the statement that we NEED to do something to get to their level

mrcoon29
05-01-2009, 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?


hahahhaa...I prefer this translation - thanks!

Ice009
05-02-2009, 07:32 AM
how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating. :depressed

I seem to remember Ray Allen having a lot of injury problems in Milwaukee with his ankles and missing lots of games in Milwaukee and even some in Seattle.

Ice009
05-02-2009, 07:35 AM
I've read reports on Ray and the guy has always treated his body like a temple. He's never drank or been involved with drugs and works extremely hard (not saying manu doesn't do any of that). But I can see how he can sustain tough games like that with his work ethic. And I agree with some people about their playing styles, I mean ray is one of the all-time great pure shooters...though I think some aren't giving him credit for his ability to take it to the rim, because he can do that effectively even at his age. But like another poster said, players have to respect his shot first so it's easier to get to the rim-where with manu it's the other way around, drive first. Both great players, Ray being a level higher IMO when looking at their careers.

A level fucking higher? You don't remember Manu destroying him in the 2005 playoffs?

If you are talking about stats, sure Ray Allen is higher, but a level higher than Manu as a player I disagree completely. Ray Allen choked it up almost the entire first 3 rounds of the playoffs last season and since Boston wasn't eliminated he finally got it going in the finals.

kace
05-02-2009, 10:39 AM
That’s a good question, I’m with the guys stating they have different games…. If we follow your logic…. how come Tony being 26 years old gets dead tire on the fourth quarter of almost every game ???........ coz the guy drives it to the hole constantly the whole fucking game.

i don't remember tony being tired in games unless he was asked to carry the whole offense for 40+ minutes. Indeed, last time i checked, he scored as well if not more in the 4rd QT. manu is averaging 27 mpg in his whole career.

and if tony isn't able to carry his whole team's offense through 45 minutes as Wade can do, it's just because he's less athletic, that's all.



I seem to remember Ray Allen having a lot of injury problems in Milwaukee with his ankles and missing lots of games in Milwaukee and even some in Seattle.


that's why i'm not talking about injuries. you never know what is the part of bad luck here.
i was talking about minutes. since manu came, he has always been preserved for playing too much, like if Pop knew he was fragile. you don't see it with others players at the same age or even older.

i really hope Pop could be able to manage manu's and tim's minutes without risking a PO berth and tiring too much tony or others player. i just don't think it will be possible in the so competitive W-Conference.

diego
05-02-2009, 11:49 AM
nice job urunobili, sorry I havent helped out but having a kid takes a lot of time!

i used to like ray allen a lot when he was a slasher, but injuries came, and a jump shooter he became. manu hasn't yet but, after this year, will face the same problem- either continue slashing and burn out fast, or become a jump shooter and play another 4-5 years. personally, I rather 1-2 years of excellence (to go out with TD) vs 4-5 of contributing, but it's his ankles and his career.

in any case, more than fragile, manu has low stamina. but you cant compare his herky jerky all out style to ray allen's silky smooth effortless style, totally different players.




and if tony isn't able to carry his whole team's offense through 45 minutes as Wade can do, it's just because he's less athletic, that's all.


athleticism and stamina are different things. and it's funny you chose wade as an example, because wade has missed a lot of games from injury in his short career.




that's why i'm not talking about injuries. you never know what is the part of bad luck here.
i was talking about minutes. since manu came, he has always been preserved for playing too much, like if Pop knew he was fragile. you don't see it with others players at the same age or even older.

i really hope Pop could be able to manage manu's and tim's minutes without risking a PO berth and tiring too much tony or others player. i just don't think it will be possible in the so competitive W-Conference.

manu has been preserved for stamina, not injuries. fragility has nothing to do with it. if manu were fragile, he would have had several injuries over the course of his career. ray allen has played more minutes, but he's also missed more games to injury in his career, both overall and per year. aside from this year, what injuries has manu had? bruises are not injuries.

and for the bolded part, let me remind you.. pop had to ride manu in 07-08 because of TP's heel problems, maybe manu wouldnt have got injured if he didnt have to make up for TP. of course i dont believe that, but its obvious that is the kind of thing you are trying to imply

angel_luv
05-02-2009, 11:58 AM
:lol :lol at Chopper's translation.

I liked it better than Manu's original article. hahaha.

ElNono
05-02-2009, 11:59 AM
i don't remember tony being tired in games unless he was asked to carry the whole offense for 40+ minutes. Indeed, last time i checked, he scored as well if not more in the 4rd QT. manu is averaging 27 mpg in his whole career.

and if tony isn't able to carry his whole team's offense through 45 minutes as Wade can do, it's just because he's less athletic, that's all.


Manu has carried the Spurs without TD and TP playing well over 40 minutes in a handful of games. If you didn't know that you must be a fairly new Spurs fan. That said, I don't think it's beneficial to the team when a player has to do that, specially when your other two stars are available.

If the coach deems that Manu has to play 25 mpg, it's most likely a matter of stamina, or simply because we have pretty much won/lost the game, and he doesn't want unnecessary wear and tear.

manubili
05-02-2009, 12:08 PM
:lol :lol at Chopper's translation.

I liked it better than Manu's original article. hahaha.

:lmao

I want a Chopper translation everytime Manu writes an article. It's the truth!

angel_luv
05-02-2009, 12:10 PM
I second that! :)