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mrsmaalox
05-01-2009, 11:55 AM
Toddler Elise Tan-Roberts Is Nearly as Smart as Einstein
By TARYN WINTER BRILL and IMAEYEN IBANGA
May 1, 2009


The majority of parents believe their children are geniuses, but toddler Elise Tan-Roberts has the official seal of approval to back up the boast..

Two-year-old British toddler becomes the youngest member of Mensa.At 2 years and 4 months old, Elise becomes the youngest member ever of the high IQ fraternity Mensa .

How Smart Is She?
Not only does Elise know her shapes, but the London resident also can count in Spanish. But her favorite thing to do is recite world capitals.
She knows 35 of them, including Paris,Tokyo and Washington D.C.

Little Elise's IQ is an astonishing 156. Compare that to Albert Einstein's 160, and you realize just how smart Elise really is considering she still has so much to learn.

Though Mensa can only test people older than 10, Elise was accepted because of a previous "evidence application" that confirmed her IQ score was within the top 2 percent of the population, according to British Mensa's Web site.
Before Elise took Mensa's youngest-ever honors, the title of youngest female ever admitted to Mensa was held by Georgia Brown. Georgia had been the youngest girl when she joined in 2007 at 1,041 days old. The youngest boy and youngest member ever accepted was Ben Woods, who joined Mensa in the 1990s at 1,035 days old, according to Mensa's Web site.

Elise was 845 days old when she joined the international high IQ club.

see video: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=7477763


British Bombshells
Elise is just the latest Brit to make headlines across the pond. The first was "Britain's Got Talent" contestant Susan Boyle, who underwhelmed people with her unkempt looks but overwhelmed them with her remarkable singing voice.
Boyle became the instant favorite to win the television competition. Soon her face appeared on tabloids and television shows around the world.

Then on the same popular British TV show where "American Idol's" Simon Cowell serves as a judge, 12-year-old Shaheen Jafargholi wowed audiences with his bombastic pipes.

The trio is helping to make a big splash outside its native United Kingdom. It leaves some to wonder just how much talent does Britain have?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7475796&page=1

smeagol
05-01-2009, 11:57 AM
There are many ST posters that are smarter than her.

Viva Las Espuelas
05-01-2009, 11:58 AM
There are many ST posters that are smarter than her.
indeed

ManuTP9
05-01-2009, 02:40 PM
coul be After Life i heard about it on the news its when somone way back dies then gets reborn in a diffrent body , but you dont remmber your 1st life.

BacktoBasics
05-01-2009, 02:42 PM
Load of horseshit.

JudynTX
05-01-2009, 02:47 PM
I thought this was about B2B's kid, NM.

Dr. Gonzo
05-01-2009, 02:52 PM
:ttiwwp:

E20
05-01-2009, 02:57 PM
What an insult to Einstien.

Jekka
05-01-2009, 02:57 PM
How the hell do you assign an IQ number to someone who can't take an IQ test? "Evidence application" my ass. Not to mention, toddlers are at a developmental stage that allows them to memorize fucking everything - does this mean that the kid who used to go on Leno and recite world leaders is going to find the cure for cancer?

Summers
05-01-2009, 02:58 PM
coul be After Life i heard about it on the news its when somone way back dies then gets reborn in a diffrent body , but you dont remmber your 1st life.

I think that's called reincarnation. You should start a thread asking if people believe in it.

She sounds like a very well-trained toddler, but that doesn't make her brilliant. Lots of little kids are bilingual and know their shapes and numbers.

mrsmaalox
05-01-2009, 03:05 PM
I think that's called reincarnation. You should start a thread asking if people believe in it.

She sounds like a very well-trained toddler, but that doesn't make her brilliant. Lots of little kids are bilingual and know their shapes and numbers.

Summers!!! :nope....:stirpot:.....:lol

mookie2001
05-01-2009, 03:05 PM
is she also a Utah Jazz fan like kori in her mensa days?

MiamiHeat
05-01-2009, 03:58 PM
When I was 20, I took the MENSA test just for fun, to see if I could make it

I did, quite easily on my first try.... but never went back or attended any of their events. i wanted no part of the group lol

Dr. Gonzo
05-01-2009, 04:07 PM
Sure you did.

MiamiHeat
05-01-2009, 04:10 PM
jealous?

i just tried this exercise, naming world capitals, and i only got 32. but that's without any refresher just off the top of my head, i know a lot more than 32 if i had multiple choice or at least refreshed my memory a bit :)

MaNuMaNiAc
05-01-2009, 04:13 PM
When I was 20, I took the MENSA test just for fun, to see if I could make it

I did, quite easily on my first try.... but never went back or attended any of their events. i wanted no part of the group lol

bullshit! you have to be the dumbest motherfucker on this forum. Mensa my ass :lmao

MiamiHeat
05-01-2009, 04:16 PM
prove it, little boy.

posters like you just throw insults without any argument. just like a little child

I challenge you to prove it. Let's go.

you can't.

you are just an anal raped little poster who hates "MiamiHeat" and thus is ruled by your emotions in your body. Your dislike/hate makes you type crap that isn't true and you have no evidence of "you are dumb/fag/whatever"

would be wasting my time with a person like you. too many of you on planet earth.

MiamiHeat
05-01-2009, 04:58 PM
something else about IQ tests -

I think IQ tests need a change

the new population of internet users, etc.. is going to create a lot more people who score higher on IQ tests.

a new way to test people, new boundaries and classifications are needed for the new generation of google users.

CuckingFunt
05-01-2009, 06:08 PM
something else about IQ tests -

I think IQ tests need a change

the new population of internet users, etc.. is going to create a lot more people who score higher on IQ tests.

a new way to test people, new boundaries and classifications are needed for the new generation of google users.

The interwebs aren't going to have any impact on the IQ test at all.

I think the test is silly and that people put way too much stock in the little number, so I'd be okay with either adjusting the IQ test or its importance, but it's not a measure of what you know. It's entirely a measure of one's potential to learn. Google isn't going to help anyone with random sequencing or visual comprehension.

baseline bum
05-01-2009, 06:18 PM
bullshit! you have to be the dumbest motherfucker on this forum. Mensa my ass :lmao


Sure you did.

The Mensa test isn't that hard. Here's a short representation of one of their tests from their website:
http://www.mensa.org/workout2.php

Frenzy
05-02-2009, 12:18 AM
i hate then they use phrases like "she was only 845 days old" Like just say she was 2 jezze..:rolleyes

sook
05-02-2009, 12:43 PM
This shit doesn't mean anything btw. IQ is a load of horseshit. They will have an easier time understanding higher conceptual mathematics like calculus, but the kid that spends 2 times as long will be just as smart.


It comes down to hardwork, which is why i never pay attention to IQ tests. Its too vague, how the fuck do you know what a 15 y o SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T know?

Mental age/Physical age = IQ.

50 years ago they didn't learn a lot of the stuff we are now , as early. 50 years from now the kids will know stuff at an earlier stage also. It is entirely dependent on what we learn.

baseline bum
05-02-2009, 01:45 PM
This shit doesn't mean anything btw. IQ is a load of horseshit. They will have an easier time understanding higher conceptual mathematics like calculus, but the kid that spends 2 times as long will be just as smart.


It comes down to hardwork, which is why i never pay attention to IQ tests. Its too vague, how the fuck do you know what a 15 y o SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T know?

Mental age/Physical age = IQ.

50 years ago they didn't learn a lot of the stuff we are now , as early. 50 years from now the kids will know stuff at an earlier stage also. It is entirely dependent on what we learn.

While hard work is absolutely necessary to master a subject, it is by no means sufficient. To use math as an example, if your brain isn't wired with strong imaging abilities, you will never get anywhere in it.

http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/incompetence.jpg

Sadly, that's the attitude in America; that doubling your effort cures all and that you're just lazy if you can't do something. I remember a Spanish class I took in college; a lousy freshman level class that almost everyone did well in. However, I have a horrible aptitude for learning natural languages. I spent a ridiculous amount of time studying for this class, not just for the grade, but because I really wanted to learn it badly. I practiced conversation with native speakers outside of class, watched Spanish TV, did every single exercise in the book, and the best I could pull was a B+. Meanwhile, I'd put 1/10th of the effort into my supposedly murderous senior and graduate level classes in topology, real analysis, computer architecture, algorithms, abstract algebra, etc and did far better.

E20
05-02-2009, 01:51 PM
While hard work is absolutely necessary to master a subject, it is by no means sufficient. To use math as an example, if your brain isn't wired with strong imaging abilities, you will never get anywhere in it.

http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/incompetence.jpg

Sadly, that's the attitude in America; that doubling your effort cures all and that you're just lazy if you can't do something. I remember a Spanish class I took in college; a lousy freshman level class that almost everyone did well in. However, I have a horrible aptitude for learning natural languages. I spent a ridiculous amount of time studying for this class, not just for the grade, but because I really wanted to learn it badly. I practiced conversation with native speakers outside of class, watched Spanish TV, did every single exercise in the book, and the best I could pull was a B+. Meanwhile, I'd put 1/10th of the effort into my supposedly murderous senior and graduate level classes in topology, real analysis, computer architecture, algorithms, abstract algebra, etc and did far better.

Baseline Bum don't you come from a background that speaks spanish? I always asummed you could speak it.

baseline bum
05-02-2009, 01:54 PM
Baseline Bum don't you come from a background that speaks spanish? I always asummed you could speak it.

Nope. I can order food, hit on a stripper, or cuss somebody out in it, but I have never been any good at conversation in it.

E20
05-02-2009, 01:56 PM
Nope. I can order food, hit on a stripper, or cuss somebody out in it, but I have never been any good at conversation in it.

What's your background, if you don't mind me asking?

baseline bum
05-02-2009, 02:05 PM
My background in Spanish? No one in my family speaks it, and neither did my friends growing up.

Summers
05-02-2009, 02:05 PM
Nope. I can order food, hit on a stripper, or cuss somebody out in it, but I have never been any good at conversation in it.

Donde estan mis pantalones?

E20
05-02-2009, 02:06 PM
My background in Spanish? No one in my family speaks it, and neither did my friends growing up.

I was actually just asking if you were a gringo or something...lol

baseline bum
05-02-2009, 02:08 PM
I was actually just asking if you were a gringo or something...lol

I'm descended from this guy, so yeah :lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Robert_Edward_Lee.jpg/405px-Robert_Edward_Lee.jpg

Summers
05-02-2009, 02:10 PM
I'm descended from this guy, so yeah :lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Robert_Edward_Lee.jpg/405px-Robert_Edward_Lee.jpg

Neat.

baseline bum
05-02-2009, 02:11 PM
Donde estan mis pantalones?

Callate. Puedes tenerlos despues de termine.

sook
05-02-2009, 02:12 PM
While hard work is absolutely necessary to master a subject, it is by no means sufficient. To use math as an example, if your brain isn't wired with strong imaging abilities, you will never get anywhere in it.

http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/incompetence.jpg

Sadly, that's the attitude in America; that doubling your effort cures all and that you're just lazy if you can't do something. I remember a Spanish class I took in college; a lousy freshman level class that almost everyone did well in. However, I have a horrible aptitude for learning natural languages. I spent a ridiculous amount of time studying for this class, not just for the grade, but because I really wanted to learn it badly. I practiced conversation with native speakers outside of class, watched Spanish TV, did every single exercise in the book, and the best I could pull was a B+. Meanwhile, I'd put 1/10th of the effort into my supposedly murderous senior and graduate level classes in topology, real analysis, computer architecture, algorithms, abstract algebra, etc and did far better.

I'm not talking about those fellows that are below 2 standard deviations from

the mean. I don't consider myself to be smart when it comes to math.

Believe it or not, just by working my ass of I pulled a 100 in calculus AB the

2nd semester. When we used to go over the topic in class, mostly

integration, i used to be lost. But I used to have others and the teacher help

me better understand stuff outside of class. I by no means am a quick

learner, probably 2 times as slow, but making the highest grade in the class

is a testament to the fact that hardwork > All.







Oh and to your language problems. Its not just you, i think language falls outside of the spectrum. Surprisingly, the best students of a language perform the worst outside of it. I don't even know why we have to anyways, its quite pointless to be frank.

Yuixafun
05-02-2009, 05:16 PM
Yea I saw this on yahoo and just rolled my eyes.

Rote memorization and regurgitation is not an indication of intellectual aptitude.

phyzik
05-02-2009, 06:26 PM
I took one online a few months ago, you know, one of those advertisements on the side of some websites. I was bored at work. scored a 144 I think or somewhere around there. The tests are bullshit (not saying I should have scored higher or anything).

I work with guys that have PHD's in all kinds of fields (Southwest Research Institute) and have some of the highest IQ's around but yet they cant figure out why their wireless mouse isnt working until you show them how to change the fucking batteries. :lol

On a side note, anyone remember one of the first episodes of "Who wants to be a millionare" when Regis was hosting it? It was one with some guy from mensa. He got like the 4th or 5th question wrong. One of those rediculously easy ones. So much for your high IQ dumbass :rollin