Mvp

[romain.star]

Lebron is the :king


Oh and the Spurs are the only team with 2 players in the Voting (TP:8th and TD:11th)

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[Galileo]

Lebron is the :king


Oh and the Spurs are the only team with 2 players in the Voting (TP:8th and TD:11th)

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where did you get the voting results? Can you post them or give a link?

[CubanSucks]

To be a king you have to rule a kingdom (or an NBA championship) and right now all he rules over is his own team. Now if they play the lakers in the finals then I will be saying something else...ALL HAIL KING JAMES!

[Brazil]

TP 8th ? i can't believe it

[sonic21]

tony 8th?
he's a lock for an all nba team

[romain.star]

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

[Galileo]

So does Duncan still make 1st team all-NBA?

Gasol got no votes at all for MVP. Dirk got one more vote than Duncan.

[romain.star]

To be a king you have to rule a kingdom (or an NBA championship) and right now all he rules over is his own team. Now if they play the lakers in the finals then I will be saying something else...ALL HAIL KING JAMES!

I can't see who could prevent him from ruling the NBA kingdom this year.

[romain.star]

So does Duncan still make 1st team all-NBA?

Gasol got no votes at all for MVP. Dirk got one more vote than Duncan.

it will be a close one between Dirk and Tim... i don't know

as for TP, he's a lock for the 2nd team (no vote for D-Will)

[Galileo]

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

Thanx.

Someone on another thread noted that Duncan got MVP votes 12 staright years. Is that a record?

If its not, it must be pretty damn close.

[sonic21]

Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Total

LeBron James, Cleveland 109 11 1 - - 1,172
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers 2 56 52 8 2 698
Dwyane Wade, Miami 7 50 41 17 4 680
Dwight Howard, Orlando 1 3 17 63 23 328
Chris Paul, New Orleans 2 1 9 23 51 192
Chauncey Billups, Denver - - - 6 15 33
Paul Pierce, Boston - - 1 2 10 21
Tony Parker, San Antonio - - - 1 6 9
Brandon Roy, Portland - - - 1 4 7
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas - - - - 3 3
Tim Duncan, San Antonio - - - - 2 2
Yao Ming, Houston - - - - 1 1

[romain.star]

TP 8th ? i can't believe it

why that? you thought he could be higher on the list?

[DAF86]

Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Total

LeBron James, Cleveland 109 11 1 - - 1,172
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers 2 56 52 8 2 698
Dwyane Wade, Miami 7 50 41 17 4 680
Dwight Howard, Orlando 1 3 17 63 23 328
Chris Paul, New Orleans 2 1 9 23 51 192
Chauncey Billups, Denver - - - 6 15 33
Paul Pierce, Boston - - 1 2 10 21
Tony Parker, San Antonio - - - 1 6 9
Brandon Roy, Portland - - - 1 4 7
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas - - - - 3 3
Tim Duncan, San Antonio - - - - 2 2
Yao Ming, Houston - - - - 1 1

Paul Pierce!? really!? Even though he's 7th I bet he won't get any All-NBA team consideration.

[sonic21]

dirk should be 4th or 5th

[timaios]

it will be a close one between Dirk and Tim... i don't know

as for TP, he's a lock for the 2nd team (no vote for D-Will)

No he's not.

1st team : Bryant + Wade
2nd team : Paul + Billups
3rd team : Parker + Roy

[romain.star]

No he's not.

1st team : Bryant + Wade
2nd team : Paul + Billups
3rd team : Parker + Roy

my bad... I forgot about billups. yeah third team is more likely for parker

[DAF86]

No he's not.

1st team : Bryant + Wade
2nd team : Paul + Billups
3rd team : Parker + Roy

If Pierce makes third NBA team ahead of Parker I'll fly to the US just to punch some of these voters in the face.

[DPG21920]

Congrats. Tim started very strong and TP played well early, got hurt, then got better as the season went on.

[Extra Stout]

First team:
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Dwyane Wade
F: LeBron James
F: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Dwight Howard

Second team:
G: Chris Paul
G: Chauncey Billups
F: Tim Duncan
F: Paul Pierce
C: Yao Ming

Third team
G: Tony Parker
G: Brandon Roy
F: Pau Gasol
F: Danny Granger
C: Shaquille O'Neal

[Brazil]

why that? you thought he could be higher on the list?

nope much lower... maybe nba begins to recognize his talents after all.

Oh and :wow at Billups over TP Dirk Tim or even Yao and new :wow for no votes for DW

[kace]

nope much lower... maybe nba begins to recognize his talents after all.

Oh and :wow at Billups over TP Dirk Tim or even Yao and new :wow for no votes for DW

yeah, Denver had to be here, so Billups get some votes. that's the same reason why he could be in 2nb all nba team and parker on third, even he i think TP has a better year. same for dirk or roy.
they are better than billups IMO. but denver had a great year and is having great PO.

[Brazil]

yeah, Denver had to be here, so Billups get some votes. that's the same reason why he could be in 2nb all nba team and parker on third, even he i think TP has a better year. same for dirk or roy.
they are better than billups IMO. but denver had a great year and is having great PO.

I agree for me tp dirk tim yao roy deserved more votes than billups but he is a great player no doubt, he didn't steal either his votes.

[Buddy Holly]

Ducks is this:

http://chiefasianinspector.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/dreamstimeweb_angry374345_1.jpg

[Bukefal]

TP should've been higher, he should have been in the 1st or at least in 2nd. As for lebron, nice, he deserved it!! He is a great basketball player, a true king!

[Phenomanul]

First team:
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Dwyane Wade
F: LeBron James
F: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Dwight Howard

Second team:
G: Chris Paul
G: Chauncey Billups
F: Tim Duncan
F: Paul Pierce
C: Yao Ming

Third team
G: Tony Parker
G: Brandon Roy
F: Pau Gasol
F: Danny Granger
C: Shaquille O'Neal

Defensively Duncan > Nowitzki... They should be swapped just based on that alone: Duncan is the better all-around player... even on one leg.

Otherwise good list....

[Lady M]

it's the first time that Timmy isn't the 1st spurs on the list

[Frenzy]

take that kobe haha

[024]

take that kobe haha

i was hoping kobe would win it. no mvp has won the championship since tim duncan.

[NewJerSpur]

So LeBron "WALKED" away with the award this year; I hope that thing "TRAVELS" well. That last part didn't flow so smoothly but it still conveys my point.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Lebron is the :king


Oh and the Spurs are the only team with 2 players in the Voting (TP:8th and TD:11th)

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Congrats to Lebron. Kinda put a good old fashion ass whooping on Kobe the Whiner!

[Ice009]

TP 8th ? i can't believe it

I'm pretty sure Manu finished 8th last year and TD 1 spot behind him.

Now I am not saying this to bag on TP, but I am saying this because I think people forgot how good Manu was last season before he got injured.

Anyway TP has taken it up another level this season, possibly superstar status. AWESOME stuff TP.

[Ice009]

it's the first time that Timmy isn't the 1st spurs on the list

I'm pretty sure Manu got more votes than TD last season.

Does anyone have last season's list?

[Ice009]

Having another look at that how the fuck did Billups finish higher than Parker and HOW THE FUCK does Billups get more free throws than TP? This is some BS.

[Mel_13]

I'm pretty sure Manu got more votes than TD last season.

Does anyone have last season's list?

Tim 7th
Manu 10th

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3384468

[NewJerSpur]

Having another look at that how the fuck did Billups finish higher than Parker and HOW THE FUCK does Billups get more free throws than TP? This is some BS.

I think Tony did himself in with the "Can't get up for the OKC's of the NBA" line. Must've rubbed some voters the wrong way. :lol Billups has helped transform Denver with his leadership on both ends of the floor and proved his value to Detroit upon his exit.

Regardless, Tony is was the Spurs' MVP for a good chunk of the season and all of the playoffs.

[Ice009]

I think Tony did himself in with the "Can't get up for the OKC's of the NBA" line. Must've rubbed some voters the wrong way. :lol Billups has helped transform Denver with his leadership on both ends of the floor and proved his value to Detroit upon his exit.

Regardless, Tony is was the Spurs' MVP for a good chunk of the season and all of the playoffs.

It's still BS. The injury depleted Spurs only finished 1 game behind the Nuggets didn't they? TP was one of the main reasons for that.

How many injuries did Denver have this season?

The free throw stat I read a few weeks ago and was amazed that someone like TP who penetrates a lot of the time got less free throws than Billups who is more of a jump shooter.

Looks like I was wrong about Manu finishing ahead of TD last season. I thought I read here that Manu finished ahead, maybe I did and whoever wrote the list last season had the wrong order?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ROFLMAO @ dirk being first team all nba this year. Has it really come to this?

I guess they are forced to do it to make his forgotten mvp more legit.

[NewJerSpur]

It's still BS. The Spurs injury depleted Spurs only finished 1 game behind the Nuggets did they? TP was one of the main reasons for that.

How many injuries did Denver have this season?

The free throw stat I read a few weeks ago and was amazed that someone like TP who penetrates a lot of the time got less free throws than Billups who is more of a jump shooter.

Looks like I was wrong about Manu finishing ahead of TD last season. I thought I read here that Manu finished ahead, maybe I did, but whoever wrote the list last season had the wrong order?

How come the "seeding" argument works in support of Tony but not in defense of Pop? :lol Not saying you specifically are the one implying this but it is something I've noticed in general, lol.

I guess it comes down to the way you perceive each player's role and their value: You have one player (Tony) who carried a team for much of the year (especially offensively) and another (Chauncey) who influenced the overall level of his team's game and changed the identity of another with his departure (for the bad); different types of impact to measure.

As far as FTs: More people going for headfakes on jumpshots maybe? That and Tony getting to the basket before defenders having the chance to foul him, maybe? Not sure.

[duncan228]

First team:
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Dwyane Wade
F: LeBron James
F: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Dwight Howard

Second team:
G: Chris Paul
G: Chauncey Billups
F: Tim Duncan
F: Paul Pierce
C: Yao Ming

Third team
G: Tony Parker
G: Brandon Roy
F: Pau Gasol
F: Danny Granger
C: Shaquille O'Neal

Is this yours or the official Teams? Is the All Defensive Team out yet? I didn't think they'd been released yet.

[Josepatches_]

As far as FTs: More people going for headfakes on jumpshots maybe? That and Tony getting to the basket before defenders having the chance to foul him, maybe? Not sure.

Close games too.Billups is a great FT shooter so he has the ball at the end of the games.In the Spurs the ball usually goes to Mason or Finley.

2 or more FTs per game easily

[NewJerSpur]

Close games too.Billups is a great FT shooter so he has the ball at the end of the games.In the Spurs the ball usually goes to Mason or Finley.

2 or more FTs per game easily

Good point. He's definitely a deal closer at the line.

[duncan228]

Just for the fun of it.

MVP winners: Age-by-age breakdown (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=nba_com-mvprace-nba-20090505&prov=nba_com&type=lgns)
By Official Release, NBA.com

LeBron James, 24, was named the winner of the Most Valuable Player presented by Kia Motors on Monday afternoon. He is the youngest MVP ever voted the award by sportswriters and broadcasters (who have been at it since 1980-81). Here's a look at the NBA's past MVP winners as broken down by age.

23

23-Bill Russell (1958-born: 2/12/34)
23-Wes Unseld (1969-born: 3/14/46)
23-Wilt Chamberlain (1960-born: 8/21/36)
23-Bob McAdoo (1975—born: 9/25/51)
23-Bob Pettit (1956-born: 12/12/32)

24

24-Moses Malone (1979-born: 3/23/55)
24-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1971—born: 4/16/47)
24-Dave Cowens (1973—born: 10/25/48)
24-Oscar Robertson (1964-born: 11/24/38)
24-LeBron James (1984-born: 12/30/84)

25

25-Michael Jordan (1988-born: 2/17/63)
25-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1972 —born: 4/16/47)
25-Allen Iverson (2001-born: 6/17/75)
25-Bill Walton (1978—born: 11/5/52)

26

26-Bill Russell (1961-born: 2/12/34)
26-Tim Duncan (2002-born: 4/25/76)
26-Bob Pettit (1959: born: 12/12/32)

27

27-Bill Russell (1962-born: 2/12/34)
27-Moses Malone (1982-born: 3/23/55)
27-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1974-born: 4/16/47)
27-Tim Duncan (2003-born: 4/25/76)
27-Kevin Garnett (2004-born: 5/19/78)
27-Willis Reed (1970-born: 6/25/42)
27-Magic Johnson (1987—born: 8/14/59)
27-Larry Bird (1984—born: 12/7/56)

28

28-Bill Russell (1963-born: 2/12/34)
28-Michael Jordan (1991-born: 2/17/63)
28-Shaquille O'Neal (2000-born: 3/6/72)
28 -Moses Malone (1983-born: 3/23/55)
28-Dirk Nowitzki (2007-born: 6/19/78)
28-Bob Cousy (1957-born: 8/9/28)
28 -Larry Bird (1985—born: 12/7/56)

29

29-Michael Jordan (1992-born: 2/17/63)
29-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1976-born: 4/16/47)
29-David Robinson (1995-born: 8/6/65)
29 -Magic Johnson (1989—born: 8/14/59)
29-Wilt Chamberlain (1966-born: 8/21/36)
29-Kobe Bryant (2008-born: 8/23/78)
29-Larry Bird (1986—born: 12/7/56)

30

30-Bill Russell (1965-born: 2/12/34)
30-Charles Barkley (1993-born: 2/20/63)
30-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1977-born: 4/16/47)
30-Magic Johnson (1990—born: 8/14/59)
30-Wilt Chamberlain (1967-born: 8/21/36)

31

31-Hakeem Olajuwon (1994-born: 1/21/63)
31-Steve Nash (2005-born: 2/7/74)
31 -Julius Erving (1981—born: 2/22/50)
31-Wilt Chamberlain (1968-born: 8/21/36)

32

32-Steve Nash (2006-born: 2/7/74)

33

33-Michael Jordan (1996-born: 2/17/63)
33-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1980-born: 4/16/47)
33-Karl Malone (1997-born: 7/24/63)

35

35-Michael Jordan (1998-born: 2/17/63)
35-Karl Malone (1999-born: 7/24/63)

[daslicer]

One interesting fact I found about the MVP winners is the oldest to win the MVP was MJ and Malone at age 35. I guess once you pass 35 it marks the end of a player playing at an mvp level.

[romain.star]

Everyone knows who the man on the Spurs is. Anyone who knows basketball, anyway. Duncan can put up similar offensive numbers to Parker, but the real difference is in the defense. Duncan is an anchor, whereas Parker is a liability.

uh oh... C'mon, Parker's defense is not always great but it's not a liability.

[romain.star]

Really? In the playoffs, when it mattered most, he couldn't guard a D-League player who is 5'8". I won't even mention players like Luke Ridnour that he couldn't guard in the regular season.

Barrea spoke to Parker's defense, or lack thereof in an interview during the series. He said something to the effect of "The coaching staff tells me Parker is not good at guarding the pick and roll, so I try to exploit it as much as I can." I respect that he didn't just say "The guy is getting his points, but he can't guard me on the other end, either.".

overall, Parker CAN be a very good defender.
I don't know why he doesn't play good defense on a regular basis but he can do it.
He proved it in the past and will prove it again.

That being said, don't expect me to tell you he is a great defender cause he's not.

[Chieflion]

Fuck the forward list, where is Kevin Durant?

This season, Durant > Granger/Pierce