View Full Version : KSAT: The Spurs 2008-09 Report Cards: Grade The Spurs
duncan228
05-05-2009, 01:58 PM
SpursTalk leads the way once again. :)
The Spurs 2008-09 Report Cards (http://www.ksat.com/sports/19356169/detail.html)
What Grade Do You Give The Spurs, Coach Gregg Popovich?
Now that you've had time to soak in the early playoff exit, re-taped your Spurs posters and sworn allegiance to next season, Instant Replay wants to know what you think of this year's San Antonio Spurs and head coach Gregg Popovich. Based upon your expectations of that player or coach's role on the team, what's the final grade you would give as you hand out the report card? Vote now and throughout the week, and tune in to Instant Replay at 10:30 p.m., May 10, for the final results, plus find out what grades Greg Simmons and Larry Ramirez hand out.
Vote by clicking on the links below.
Grade Matt Bonner (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356097/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Bruce Bowen (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356094/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Tim Duncan (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356075/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Michael Finley (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356153/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Manu Ginobili (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356086/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Drew Gooden (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19357153/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade George Hill (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356088/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Roger Mason Jr. (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356139/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Fabricio Oberto (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356167/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Tony Parker (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356055/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Gregg Popovich (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356213/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Kurt Thomas (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356199/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Ime Udoka (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356144/detail.html?p=sports)
Grade Jacque Vaughn (http://www.ksat.com/surveypopup/sports/19356159/detail.html?p=sports)
Once again, the KSAT sports team thanks you for your vote. Be sure to watch Instant Replay at 10:30 p.m., on May 10 for the final results, plus what The Sports Guys think.
angel_luv
05-05-2009, 01:59 PM
A timvp inspired poll? :)
braeden0613
05-05-2009, 02:07 PM
Bonner: F
Bowen: B
Duncan: B
Finley: D
Ginobili: n/a
Gooden: C
Hill: C
Mason: C
Oberto: ?
Parker: A
Pop: D
Thomas: B
Udoka: C (although he did play some great D in the Mavs series)
Vaughn: he probably brings good gatorade to practice
Extra Stout
05-05-2009, 02:10 PM
Having separate pop-ups for each player is a bad web design.
Duncan: B
Parker: A
Finley: F
Mason: C
Bonner: D
Hill: C
Vaughn: F
Ginobili: D
Bowen: C
Oberto: D
Thomas: D
Gooden: D
Udoka: F
Pop: D
baseline bum
05-05-2009, 02:28 PM
Matt Bonner - D
Bruce Bowen - B
Tim Duncan - B
Michael Finley - F
Manu Ginobili - D
Drew Gooden - C
George Hill - B
Roger Mason Jr. - D
Fabricio Oberto - C
Tony Parker - A
Gregg Popovich - F
Kurt Thomas - D
Ime Udoka - D
Jacque Vaughn - C
Grade Matt Bonner D
Grade Bruce Bowen B
Grade Tim Duncan A
Grade Michael Finley C
Grade Manu Ginobili F
Grade Drew Gooden C+
Grade George Hill B
Grade Roger Mason Jr. B+
Grade Fabricio Oberto C
Grade Tony Parker A+++
Grade Gregg Popovich A-
Grade Kurt Thomas B
Grade Ime Udoka C
Grade Jacque Vaughn C
5in10
05-05-2009, 02:47 PM
Matt Bonner - F
Bruce Bowen - B
Tim Duncan - B
Michael Finley - C
Manu Ginobili - D
Drew Gooden - C
George Hill - B+
Roger Mason Jr. - C-
Fabricio Oberto - C
Tony Parker - A
Gregg Popovich - D
Kurt Thomas - B
Ime Udoka - C-
Jacque Vaughn - F
Ed Helicopter Jones
05-05-2009, 04:02 PM
Grade Matt Bonner: B-
Grade Bruce Bowen: B-
Grade Tim Duncan: B-
Grade Michael Finley: C-
Grade Manu Ginobili: B-
Grade Drew Gooden: C-
Grade George Hill: B-
Grade Roger Mason Jr.: B
Grade Fabricio Oberto: C-
Grade Tony Parker: A
Grade Gregg Popovich: C
Grade Kurt Thomas: C
Grade Ime Udoka: C-
Grade Jacque Vaughn: C
I figure a 'C' is average, so if I'm evaluating each player on their own individual average level of effort/talent, then those are my grades for the season. Most players performed about as I'd of expected them to...hence the majority being C grades. If we're just talking the first round of the playoffs:
Grade Matt Bonner: D-
Grade Bruce Bowen: B+
Grade Tim Duncan: B
Grade Michael Finley: F
Grade Manu Ginobili: Incomplete
Grade Drew Gooden: D
Grade George Hill: B
Grade Roger Mason Jr.: D
Grade Fabricio Oberto: D
Grade Tony Parker: A
Grade Gregg Popovich: C-
Grade Kurt Thomas: D
Grade Ime Udoka: C-
Bender
05-05-2009, 04:10 PM
someone post the results in this thread after the poll. I don't watch the news.
Bukefal
05-05-2009, 04:12 PM
Cool, cant wait to see the results. But yeah, really bad made with the popups
Brazil
05-05-2009, 04:49 PM
Grade Matt Bonner: C
Grade Bruce Bowen: B
Grade Tim Duncan: B
Grade Michael Finley: C
Grade Manu Ginobili: C => I don't know to grade him
Grade Drew Gooden: C
Grade George Hill: B
Grade Roger Mason Jr.: D => RS : B / PO : F
Grade Fabricio Oberto: D
Grade Tony Parker: A
Grade Gregg Popovich: D => below expectations
Grade Kurt Thomas: C
Grade Ime Udoka: F
Grade Jacque Vaughn: F
rascal
05-05-2009, 05:09 PM
Bowen is getting too high scores. His game has slipped. Thats why Pop is phasing him out with fewer minutes. No higher than a C for Bowen.
No higher than a D for manu. He did not listen to the Spurs when they asked him to sit out the olympics. He was still coming off an injury and insisted on playing anyways. He basically just let the team down.
Pop gets an F. Not getting the right players this past summer and ending up having to play Bonner big minutes is a big fail. Not developing Hill by not giving him minutes after his early season success was another mess up.
A for both Parker and Duncan. Those guys had great seasons and are the heart of the team. Duncan was playing in pain for a good part of the season.
ploto
05-05-2009, 05:22 PM
Having separate pop-ups for each player is a bad web design.
I only voted for a select few because of that.
timtonymanu
05-05-2009, 07:36 PM
Matt Bonner D - - I wanted to give him an F for his piss poor performance in the playoffs, but he had a better year than last year.
Bruce Bowen B
Tim Duncan A -
Michael Finley C -
Manu Ginobili C +
Drew Gooden C
George Hill C +
Roger Mason Jr. B -
Fabricio Oberto F
Tony Parker A+
Gregg Popovich D - (Really disappointed in him this season)
Kurt Thomas B-
Ime Udoka D
Jacque Vaughn F
SenorSpur
05-05-2009, 09:08 PM
Grade Matt Bonner - D
Grade Bruce Bowen - C
Grade Tim Duncan - A
Grade Michael Finley - D
Grade Manu Ginobili - F
Grade Drew Gooden - C+
Grade George Hill - B+
Grade Roger Mason Jr. - B-
Grade Fabricio Oberto - C
Grade Tony Parker - A
Grade Gregg Popovich - C
Grade Kurt Thomas - B
Grade Ime Udoka - C
Grade Jacque Vaughn - C
mookie2001
05-05-2009, 09:15 PM
how in the wide world of sports could anyone not give manu an F?
rayray2k8
05-05-2009, 09:15 PM
I see a trend in our grading, so I won't bother posting my grades.
But, I'll grade the obvious.
Parker - A
Duncan - B
Bowen - C
Hill - C
Finley - D
Bonner - F (Is there anything lower than an F?)
George Gervin's Afro
05-05-2009, 09:17 PM
Duncan: B
Parker: A
Finley: C
Mason: B
Bonner: D
Hill: B
Vaughn: F
Ginobili: D
Bowen: B
Oberto: C
Thomas: B
Gooden: C
Udoka: C
Pop: D
tp2021
05-05-2009, 09:25 PM
Tony A
KT B
Pop C
GooberNuts
05-05-2009, 09:27 PM
Bonner: A?
Parker: A
TD: B
Everyone else is a C or lower.
dbestpro
05-06-2009, 10:26 AM
To grade anyone A plus is to imply they are at the top of their game. Parker still has room to grow on defense and playmaking ability. B+ for Parker. I also think you have to look at the salary plus time on the floor. Manu and Oberto grade a C and actually should be an n/a. No way Udoka is an F when you look at his salary. Vaughn even with the low salary grades D or F because he took the roster spot for someone who might have helped. Thomas grades C or D because of how much he costs verses his production. Finley grades the same because of his inconsistent production. Mason grades a low C (B for the season and F for the playoffs).
Hill and Gooden did everything that they were allowed to do and actually grades are both B. Duncan deserves the only A for the effort he gave while injured. Pop in the end made some of his most critical errors this season. His lack of rookie trust limited the Spurs defensively by benching both Hill and Bowen at times and caused the Spurs to navigate away for the defense first mentality.
Oh yeah, Bonner gets a C, as well because he played above himself during the season. He desperately needs to be traded to another city or he is in jeopardy of becoming one of the most hated Spurs ever.
mathbzh
05-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Duncan: B
Parker: A
Finley: D
Mason: C- Started the season with a B+... :depressed
Bonner: B- I don't think he could have had a much better season.
Hill: B-
Vaughn: D
Ginobili: F Nothing against him. It is just that we needed him badly. More seriously he probably deserves a C+
Bowen: C
Oberto: D
Thomas: D
Gooden: C
Udoka: F
Pop: D
how in the wide world of sports could anyone not give manu an F?
Becasue some may not think that he intentionally injured himself to piss off some whining selfcentered bitches like yourself.
superbigtime
05-06-2009, 11:04 AM
Grade Matt Bonner - D
Grade Bruce Bowen - C
Grade Tim Duncan - A
Grade Michael Finley - C
Grade Manu Ginobili - D
Grade Drew Gooden - B
Grade George Hill - B
Grade Roger Mason Jr. - C
Grade Fabricio Oberto - B
Grade Tony Parker - A
Grade Gregg Popovich - F
Grade Kurt Thomas - C
Grade Ime Udoka - C
Grade Jacque Vaughn - D
spurster
05-06-2009, 11:39 AM
Bonner: C
Bowen: C
Duncan: B
Finley: C
Ginobili: Incomplete
Gooden: C
Hill: C
Mason: C
Oberto: C
Parker: A
Pop: D
Thomas: B
Udoka: C
Vaughn: C
Spurminator
05-06-2009, 11:43 AM
Bonner: C+
Duncan: B
Finley: C-
Gooden: C-
Mason: B-
Oberto: D
Parker: A
Thomas: B-
Udoka: D
Vaughn: C
Bowen: Incomplete
Hill: Incomplete
Ginobili: Incomplete
Pop: F
urunobili
05-06-2009, 02:11 PM
Last time I checked Manu's numbers (when playing) were more than the C and minus scored he's been given already... :wakeup
Walton Buys Off Me
05-06-2009, 05:59 PM
Bonner: C. Overachieved in the regular season. Had 4 points in 5 playoff games. Atrocious.
Bowen: B Not given the chance
Duncan: A Great year for Timmy. Too bad the knees flared up. Really helped keep us afloat for the first 60 games.
Finley: C+ Didn't do anything to warrant another year in silver and black. Hit a few big shots though.
Ginobili: F. Chose not to rehab a sore ankle and was MIA when it counted because of it.
Gooden: B* (limited time) I think he deserves a shot next year.
Hill: C+ Pop forgot he was on our roster until it was too late.
Mason: B Pop failed to find a true role for him.
Oberto: N/A Didn't know we was on our team this year. Hope the dude's heart is ok.
Parker: A+ Hats off to Parker this year. His performance against Dallas in game 4 was inspiring. Without Tony Parker, we're a lottery team this year.
Pop: D I'm really disappointed in Pop this year. I'm not playing the Fire Pop card but his inability to settle on a rotation, his blatant refusal to play George Hill and his being the only basketball mind on the planet to see worth in Matt Bonner confuse the hell out of me. But what do I know right?
Thomas: B Came on strong down the stretch.
Udoka: D Not sure why we made a uniform for this guy. Offensively, makes Bruce Bowen look like MJ. Pop ruined his confidance.
Vaughn: N/A Who?
superjames1992
05-06-2009, 07:11 PM
Bonner: C; He did what Pop wanted him to do, but disappeared in the playoffs, partly due to Pop suddenly not wanting to play him.
Bowen: C; It's hard to really grade him as he didn't play a lot, but his defense didn't seem as good from what I saw and his offense was its usual self, so a C works.
Duncan: A; Fine year for him.
Finley: C; Was average and hit some big shots down the stretch, but he was nothing special.
Ginobili: A; When he was injured, the Spurs were 23-20 (Including the playoffs). When he was playing, the Spurs were 32-12. 'Nuff said.
Gooden: C; It was hard to gauge how well he played, though, in his limited time and minutes.
Hill: B; Played well for a rookie and should have been running the backup point as opposed to Roger Mason.
Mason: C; Was a spark early on, but faded down the stretch, especially in the playoffs.
Oberto: How can you grade him considering his limited minutes? When he played towards the end of blowouts when Pop cleared the bench, he played pretty well, though.
Parker: A; Another great year.
Popovich: C; I thought he made some really questionable calls down the stretch, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt considering he's won four NBA Titles and I haven't coached a basketball game in my life! :rollin
Thomas: C; Did what he was asked to do, but I still don't know why we wasted a first-round draft pick in this year's draft for this aging veteran.
Udoka: D; I'm not sure why Pop decided to start playing him towards the end of the year out of the blue...
Vaughn: Kind of hard to grade him considering he barely ever played, LOL!
BackHome
05-06-2009, 07:22 PM
Bonner: C; He did what Pop wanted him to do, but disappeared in the playoffs, partly due to Pop suddenly not wanting to play him.
Bowen: C; It's hard to really grade him as he didn't play a lot, but his defense didn't seem as good from what I saw and his offense was its usual self, so a C works.
Duncan: A; Fine year for him.
Finley: C; Was average and hit some big shots down the stretch, but he was nothing special.
Ginobili: A; When he was injured, the Spurs were 23-20 (Including the playoffs). When he was playing, the Spurs were 32-12. 'Nuff said.
Gooden: C; It was hard to gauge how well he played, though, in his limited time and minutes.
Hill: B; Played well for a rookie and should have been running the backup point as opposed to Roger Mason.
Mason: C; Was a spark early on, but faded down the stretch, especially in the playoffs.
Oberto: How can you grade him considering his limited minutes? When he played towards the end of blowouts when Pop cleared the bench, he played pretty well, though.
Parker: A; Another great year.
Popovich: C; I thought he made some really questionable calls down the stretch, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt considering he's won four NBA Titles and I haven't coached a basketball game in my life! :rollin
Thomas: C; Did what he was asked to do, but I still don't know why we wasted a first-round draft pick in this year's draft for this aging veteran.
Udoka: D; I'm not sure why Pop decided to start playing him towards the end of the year out of the blue...
Vaughn: Kind of hard to grade him considering he barely ever played, LOL!
+1 Except change Hill to a C because the guys showed he is not a PG...Yes, he can guard PG but he can't play a PG..
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