Mavs Front Office Blunders

[monosylab1k]

Let's recap them all.

1. Kidd for Harris-Christ: let's not rehash this one, there's already been 1828238934983893 comments on this trade.

2. Not trading Josh Howard this offseason despite a definite offer of Ron Artest and Gerald Wallace being available: Defense & physical/mental toughness not requirements to play for the Mavericks.

3. Not trading Kidd for Baron Davis/Chris Kaman: Kidd never turns the ball over and he's smart. Yeah.

moving on back...

4. Passing on Big Baby Davis for Nick Fazekas: We had affirmative action laws to meet, so bring on the big white stiff.

5. Trading Marquis Daniels for Austin Croshere: See above.

Any more to add?

[Ghazi]

MLE on Diop

[Ghazi]

Mavs are not in 2nd round w/ Davis/Kaman.

[mavs>spurs2]

Not using Stackhouse's expiring to land Salmons

[Ditty]

spurs getting josh howard

trust me if yall dont have josh howard we would have had a 4-0 up on yall this century and most likely a championship in 2006 so STFU

[Spursfan092120]

Let's recap them all.

1. Kidd for Harris-Christ: let's not rehash this one, there's already been 1828238934983893 comments on this trade.
That number's probably not that far off.

[mavs>spurs2]

Paying Michael Finley 20+ million a year to win championships with the Spurs.

[endrity]

I think 5 is quite underrated by Mavs fans. Quis would have been vital to the Mavs, seeing as we haven't had a true 2 since he left.

[mavs>spurs2]

Letting a 2 time mvp walk for free instead of trying to work a sign and trade

[monosylab1k]

we could potentially have a starting 5 of

Baron Davis
Antoine Wright
Ron Artest or Gerald Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Kaman

Wright is okay at SG since Baron is more aggressive on offense than Kidd. two solid defensive guards, a defensive beast at SF that can score in either Artest or Wallace, Dirk is Dirk, and Kaman isn't great but he's an upgrade over both Dampier and Hollins.

But apparently not hurting Josh's feelings and keeping cap room available for the 2010 pipe dream is more important.

[monosylab1k]

Mavs are not in 2nd round w/ Davis/Kaman.

Just die already.

[Dex]

Shawn Bradley followed by the Antoine twins?

[Ghazi]

mono only started these threads before I could as his troll lol... what a predictable and boring sthick.

[Dex]

Oh, and giving Devean George bird rights. :lmao

[monosylab1k]

mono only started these threads before I could as his troll lol... what a predictable and boring sthick.

It's unfortunate for both of us that you have no legitimate rebuttal. The Mavs front office has made one disastrous move after another, and there's nothing you can say to change that. Wave your pom poms and ignore the truth.

[Ghazi]

Whine Whine Whine Whine.

[monosylab1k]

:cheer :cheer :cheer :cheer

[Spursfan092120]

I guess I don't get it..what's wrong with Ghazi cheering on his team? Dude..like it or not...it's your freaking team. Either cheer them or don't...but bitching about it ain't gonna do a damn thing.

[monosylab1k]

I guess I don't get it..what's wrong with Ghazi cheering on his team? Dude..like it or not...it's your freaking team. Either cheer them or don't...but bitching about it ain't gonna do a damn thing.

You sound like one of those morons who thinks everybody should support everything the President does or else "get out of America!"

[ElNono]

It's just that they're all lateral moves man...

[monosylab1k]

It's just that they're all lateral moves man...

:lol

[Ghazi]

Agreeing with EL NONO is not a good thing FWIW

[Spursfan092120]

You sound like one of those morons who thinks everybody should support everything the President does or else "get out of America!"
No..douchebag...but you should support the president overall..you seem to bash Dallas around every turn. Either you like them or you don't. Take your pick. But don't bash someone because they cheer their team through the hard times...that's straight bandwagon.

[monosylab1k]

Agreeing with EL NONO is not a good thing FWIW

Agreeing with you about anything basketball related is a sure sign that you don't know jack shit about basketball.

[Ghazi]

I know the game pretty well.

[monosylab1k]

No..douchebag...but you should support the president overall..you seem to bash Dallas around every turn. Either you like them or you don't. Take your pick. But don't bash someone because they cheer their team through the hard times...that's straight bandwagon.

You can cheer your team and still be critical. Are you really this obtuse?

[monosylab1k]

I know the game pretty well.

I'm sure you do. :jack

What's that one gem you said earlier today? "Leadership means nothing" Yeah that's brilliant.

[Spursfan092120]

You can cheer your team and still be critical. Are you really this obtuse?
No..it's not about being obtuse..I'm critical of the Spurs, yes..but I'd never bash someone for cheering for the Spurs through the hard times..the players don't make front office moves..so you can't blame them...you still cheer for them. Truth is, your Mavs are one of 8 teams left that are still playing...you bashing them at this point is just ignorant.

[ElNono]

Agreeing with EL NONO is not a good thing FWIW

Why? I'm no JR Smith. I didn't murder anybody.
Plus there's nothing brave about being a condescending prick to the FO.
If somebody thinks they fucked up and wants to call them out, let them express their opinion.

[mavsfan1000]

Mark Cuban getting Stern against him. Stern will never let Cuban succeed. See Mavs/Heat series for proof.

[Ghazi]

Kidd's "leadership" isn't helping us right now against a bunch of thugs murderers and junkies. (LUV 2 HATE).

[monosylab1k]

I'd never bash someone for cheering for the Spurs through the hard times.

Cheering for your team and being a blind homer are two different things. For a 50 post a day person you don't seem to know a whole lot about anything.

[Ghazi]

Why are we bringing up big baby Davis < Fazekas though... does big baby even get minutes over Bass I say No.

[monosylab1k]

Kidd's "leadership" isn't helping us right now against a bunch of thugs murderers and junkies. (LUV 2 HATE).

Kidd hasn't brought any leadership to this team. That's the problem.

[monosylab1k]

Why are we bringing up big baby Davis < Fazekas though... does big baby even get minutes over Bass I say No.

And what happens when we lose Bass for nothing this offseason?

[Brickhouse]

FO blunders this season?

Hinging on all their hopes on Smokey, who even if he were playing, wouldn't be a factor in the 4th quarter anyways.

[ElNono]

Kidd's "leadership" isn't helping us right now against a bunch of thugs murderers and junkies. (LUV 2 HATE).

If you're waiting for Kidd to lead your team, Im gonna have to say Denver in 5 MAX. If you're waiting for Dirk to lead, then it could actually be a 6 game series.

[Lars]

Blow up the team imo.

[Ghazi]

I am not a blind homer just don't think any of those moves would make mavs title contenders. only move that makes mavs title contenders is one that makes dirk the 2nd best player on team

had shot in 06 and 07 but now that kobe has a frontline/shooters and lebron has a roster it's just too difficult.

[ElNono]

I am not a blind homer just don't think any of those moves would make mavs title contenders. only move that makes mavs title contenders is one that makes dirk the 2nd best player on team

had shot in 06 and 07 but now that kobe has a frontline/shooters and lebron has a roster it's just too difficult.


It's just that they're all lateral moves man...

[LEONARD]

we could potentially have a starting 5 of

Baron Davis
Antoine Wright
Ron Artest or Gerald Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Kaman

Wright is okay at SG since Baron is more aggressive on offense than Kidd. two solid defensive guards, a defensive beast at SF that can score in either Artest or Wallace, Dirk is Dirk, and Kaman isn't great but he's an upgrade over both Dampier and Hollins.

But apparently not hurting Josh's feelings and keeping cap room available for the 2010 pipe dream is more important.

Huh?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123612

[sribb43]

How about biggest blunders is re-signing Devean George on 3 seperate occasion...1st in '06 offeseason, re-sign in '07 offseason and re-sign in '08 offseason.

If the Mavs re-sign him again, Donnie will once again claim that its bc of his championship pedigree and 3pt shooting

:lmao...Donnie

[to21]

I would say keeping J Howard was a great move.

Dude is a Spur killa.

[florige]

I actually was really surprised they got rid of Harris with the way he used to pretty much shut down Parker.

[Imposter Cleaner]

we could potentially have a starting 5 of

Baron Davis
Antoine Wright
Ron Artest or Gerald Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Kaman

Wright is okay at SG since Baron is more aggressive on offense than Kidd. two solid defensive guards, a defensive beast at SF that can score in either Artest or Wallace, Dirk is Dirk, and Kaman isn't great but he's an upgrade over both Dampier and Hollins.

But apparently not hurting Josh's feelings and keeping cap room available for the 2010 pipe dream is more important.
Fail, Kaman can go nowhere without bandage and icebag, beared is certainly a cancer for any team he plays on. If the Mavs had got a combo of beard and Wright at backcourt, they would have been beaten by spurs in the first round.

Wright and Baron are both too aggressive than they are needed to be, and neither of them has enough skills to run the offense well. With two blackholes on backcourt, Dirk and Ron/GW would struggle in drought. Clearly it was a terrible error that Donnie Nelson didn't deal Josh Howard last summer, not to mention Ron and Gerald Wallace, even John Salmons would be a big upgrade over Josh Howard. However, Kidd is more valuable than Kaman and Baron combined even though Kidd is relatively old.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Seems like the Cuban fuck up parade started with him deciding not to resign Steve Nash.

[Holmes_Fans]

Damn people are so fucking stupid. Do you not realize Cuban offered him a contract worth 4 years and 45 million dollars? Nash is the one who opted out of his contract, then went to PHX for more money.

[sribb43]

Seems like the Cuban fuck up parade started with him deciding not to resign Steve Nash.

idiot spurs fan

[mavs>spurs2]

The biggest blunder goes all the way back to 1985. We drafted detlef schrempf over karl Malone :bang

[monosylab1k]

Huh?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123612

Do you even know who Antoine Wright is?


I've watched about 1.5 games this season...don't really give a damn these days...


burned out on the team

Antoine Wright sucks, no doubt about that, but we can survive with him at SG if our PG was more offensive minded. Not that you'd know, you're "burned out" on the team.

[sribb43]

If Kidd is your PG, you need at least 3 scorers on the floor at the same time....thats why when J-ho is always hurt, the Mavs must rely on Dirk or JET and that is just too much to handle in the playoffs, just ask the Spurs

[LEONARD]

Do you even know who Antoine Wright is?

:lmao

Yes, I'm aware...

He's the guy you said shouldn't be in the NBA (dedicated a thread to the subject), then you proposed that he be the starting SG in this thread had a certain trade happened...

Funny.

Keep clinging to my quotes from when the Mavs were 2-7...it clearly proves that I'm not really a Mavs fan and don't know anything about the team... :lmao

[monosylab1k]

Keep clinging to my quotes from when the Mavs were 2-7...it clearly proves that I'm not really a Mavs fan and don't know anything about the team... :lmao

hey you're the one that said it, not me. if you can explain why you got "burned out" on the Mavs as they conveniently went 2-7, and then suddenly got interested as they conveniently started winning again, I'd love to know.

[E20]

Kidd for Harris-Christ

LOL I'm not gonna lie mav fans are probably my favorite group of posters. lol

[sribb43]

This offseason will be the biggest for the current Mavs front office...If they fail to make quality changes with the $32 million in expiring contracts then this team is doomed and Dirk should not be wasted here in Dallas

Damp: $10,112,500
J-Ho: $10,890,000
Stack: $7,250,000 (with $2mil buyout)
Wright: $2,115,000
Williams: $2,416,066

[Ghazi]

Gotta resign kidd!

[sribb43]

Gotta resign kidd!

it all depends what players are around him...if its the same team then Kidd wont want to be back and there is no point to having him run with this spare cast of players

[mavs>spurs2]

The level of talent on our team is so low right now, I'm thinkin this is my chance to try out for the Mavs summer league team

[Brazil]

cannot be worst than the spurs

we have made decent moves but our coach fucked them

[Ghazi]

I only have issue w/ following:

1. Quis for trash
2. MLE on Diop
3. Throwing in the picks in Kidd trade, and 2010 unprotected by lottery

but Chris fucking Kaman? Baron fucking Davis? Big fucking baby? Fuck that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

cannot be worst than the spurs

we have made decent moves but our coach fucked them

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yup I'm sure the Spurs would have ten rings by now if not for Greg Popovich.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I don't think it's fair to blame Cuban for Nash not resigning. A point guard in his thirties with back issues who had been a borderline all-star his entire career isn't someone you give a 5 year maximum contract to. I'm sure if Cuban knew he'd win two MVP's on Phoenix he would have handled it differently. There was however no way in hell to know Nash would have that much success.

And just out of curiosity Ghazi, does telling mono he isn't a real Mavs fan make you forget about the fact the front office really does suck? Blindly cheering for a team and having the retarded optimistic, "Always believe" attitude doesn't make the team any better.

The bandwagoners in Phoenix who didn't watch basketball till 2004 that claimed run and suck, all offense no defense basketball can win a championship didn't change the fact run and suck basketball will never win a championship.

[LEONARD]

hey you're the one that said it, not me. if you can explain why you got "burned out" on the Mavs as they conveniently went 2-7, and then suddenly got interested as they conveniently started winning again, I'd love to know.

Watched just about every game for years...only to be treated with:

Finals meltdown.
67 wins and 8th seed knocks them out.
1st rd out.
Then they come out 2-7 with much of the same roster.

I would like to officially apologize to you, the ultimate Mavs fan, for being disgruntled with the team. I know real fans don't whine, bitch, or take a break from watching...

[Ghazi]

We love our boys in blue!

[CubanMustGo]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yup I'm sure the Spurs would have ten rings by now if not for Greg Popovich.

Pop does a lot of things well, but he's not the best at handling young players ... and once someone gets into the Pophouse they never seem to get get out. You take the good with the bad; this year seemed to be bad even before the first round abuse at the hands of the Mavs.

[endrity]

I don't blame Cuban much for Nash either, and honestly I think we got better without him. Nash wasn't going to lead a Mavs team to the Finals, past the Spurs, IMO. And Dirk made a quality jump when Nash left. And as much as people like to taunt him, Dampier is one of the best post defenders and rebounders in the league. With the exception of Shaq, nobody can back him down.

But Kidd for Harris was suicide. How much we need Harris now against Denver??? Seeing as only Dirk can get to the line, I say a lot.

And Quis is a complete blunder. He was never gonna be an all-star but he was good at a lot of little things, he could defend, rebound, pass well, and now even his 3pt shooting has gotten better. Quis would have been huge for them against GS, and now.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Pop does a lot of things well, but he's not the best at handling young players ... and once someone gets into the Pophouse they never seem to get get out. You take the good with the bad; this year seemed to be bad even before the first round abuse at the hands of the Mavs.

I think he's good at handling young players but doesn't like doing it at all, so I get the frustration there.

And that's exactly what I was going to say, you take the good with the bad when it comes to coaching. Most of the time Popovich's good greatly outweighs his bad. Maybe it didn't this season, but IMO when you take injuries into account the Spurs didn't have much of a chance this year regardless of the coach.

One thing I do know is the notion some Spurs fans have on this site that getting rid of Popovich will solve every problem the Spurs have and improve their team is retarded.

[Ghazi]

Nobody would be bitching about the FO if the Mavs didn't get the shaft in '06. The fucking shaft I tell you!

Any team can play the "what if" game to scrutinize their FO.

[BlackSwordsMan]

1 ring faggots

[Flux451]

Any team can play the "what if" game to scrutinize their FO.

NOt teams with rings.

[sribb43]

NOt teams with rings.

:lol...that was a good one

[Flux451]

:lol...that was a good one

Thanks, glad you recognize the originality.