Ginsburg wants a woman...

[Yonivore]

Ginsburg recalls (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/judicial/2009-05-05-ruthginsburg_N.htm) that as a young, female lawyer her voice often was ignored by male peers:


I don't know how many meetings I attended in the '60s and the '70s, where I would say something, and I thought it was a pretty good idea. ... Then somebody else would say exactly what I said. Then people would become alert to it, respond to it.
Times have changed, but apparently not that much. According to Ginsburg:


It can happen even in the conferences in the court. When I will say something -- and I don't think I'm a confused speaker -- and it isn't until somebody else says it that everyone will focus on the point.
In short, Justice Ginsburg is tired of speaking to a brick wall, and would like to have at least one Justice who will see the light when she speaks, not when some male parrots her point.

Isn't there something in the Constitution that says a Supreme Court justice can't be a pathetic whiner?

It does bring up the larger point, though. Identity politics is going to play a huge role in who Obama picks and he's getting pressed from all quarters; women, blacks, hispanics, gays, and on and on and on.

Hell, he's even suggested putting someone with no legal background but that has an ability to empathize and settle cases based on a just outcome instead of some "lofty legal theory."

Now that's entertainment.

[ElNono]

Hell, he's even suggested putting someone with no legal background but that has an ability to empathize and settle cases based on a just outcome instead of some "lofty legal theory."

Now that's entertainment.

Can you post a quote on this? Not that I don't believe you, I just haven't heard about it.

[Winehole23]

Isn't there something in the Constitution that says a Supreme Court justice can't be a pathetic whiner?Maestro!

[balli]

Can you post a quote on this? Not that I don't believe you, I just haven't heard about it.

He hasn't suggested it at all. It's been suggested to him. And actually it hasn't, because nobody's said anything about putting someone with "no legal background" on the court. (The Dems didn't like Harriet Miers, Yoni)

Rather, it's been suggested that Obama get someone from outside the lower courts/judiciary, but not someone who has "no legal background". Yoni's just a butthurt little bitch so he made that up. Per usual.

[ElNono]

He hasn't suggested it at all. It's been suggested to him.

I figured as much, considering he's a lawyer.

[Winehole23]

Yoni's a lawyer?

[ElNono]

Yoni's a lawyer?

I mean Obama...

[ChumpDumper]

I feel her pain

May 6, 2009 Posted by Paul at 8:19 AM

Justice Ginsburg wants President Obama to appoint another female to the Supreme Court. In support of this desire, she complains that, after all these years, the comments she makes when the Supreme Court Justices confer sometimes are ignored.

Ginsburg recalls that as a young, female lawyer her voice often was ignored by male peers:

I don't know how many meetings I attended in the '60s and the '70s, where I would say something, and I thought it was a pretty good idea. ... Then somebody else would say exactly what I said. Then people would become alert to it, respond to it.

Times have changed, but apparently not that much. According to Ginsburg:

It can happen even in the conferences in the court. When I will say something -- and I don't think I'm a confused speaker -- and it isn't until somebody else says it that everyone will focus on the point.

In short, Justice Ginsburg is tired of speaking to a brick wall, and would like to have at least one Justice who will see the light when she speaks, not when some male parrots her point.

Consider me sympathetic. I can't count the number of times I posted something on Power Line --- and I think I write clearly -- and it wasn't until John or Scottt said the same thing that the blogosphere focused on the point. And I don't even have gender to blame.

JOHN adds: I hope you don't mean to suggest any sort of equivalence between John Roberts and Andrew Sullivan.

Isn't there something in the Constitution that says a Supreme Court justice can't be a pathetic whiner?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/05/023501.php

[Barry O'Bama]

Yeah, who cares what that piece of trash Consitution says it's just a fluid document anyways. I'm going to pick someone who interprets the law not follows it. Needless to say I'm picking someone who's an activist not a Constitutionalist.

I won get over it.

Now leave me alone I have to get into the used car business, vouchers coming soon.

[ChumpDumper]

Weak troll sauce.

[FromWayDowntown]

Ah yes, the old "activist" canard.

[Winehole23]

More LockBeard sock-puppetry. No sauce at all.

[Barry O'Bama]

Weak troll sauce.


Not weak just true.

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, you're horrible at this.

[Barry O'Bama]

Nah, you're horrible at this.

So young man in your infinate wisdom tell me specifics I should be looking for in my pick.

Or if you were me what would you do as I am an excellent listener?

[ChumpDumper]

So young man in your infinate wisdom tell me specifics I should be looking for in my pick.

Or if you were me what would you do as I am an excellent listener?You aren't the president, so I don't give a shit whom you pick.

You're just an internets nobody like the rest of us.

[Barry O'Bama]

You aren't the president, so I don't give a shit whom you pick.

You're just an internets nobody like the rest of us.

That's what I thought. You can't answer the question.

[balli]

You can't answer the question.
He did answer the question- you don't have a pick to look for qualities in.

If you want to be a fucking adult, sign in under a non-troll... and ask him what values you think Barack Obama should look for in his supreme court nominee, I'm sure he'd be happy to respond.

[Bill Ayers]

Nah, you're horrible at this.

I think he's doing just fine.

[Barry O'Bama]

He did answer the question- you don't have a pick to look for qualities in.

He didn't answer the question. We all know there isn't a pick yet that's why I'm looking for advice from the common man.

If you want to be a fucking adult, sign in under a non-troll... and ask him what values you think Barack Obama should look for in his supreme court nominee, I'm sure he'd be happy to respond.

Sorry I know I have big ears and troll like features, this is who I am. It's not about values it's about how you rule on written law.

[balli]

:wakeup

[FaithInOne]

More LockBeard sock-puppetry. No sauce at all.

LOL, You - Me - And Barry Obama know you are becoming obsessed with me.


We need an ACLU Lesbian Hispanic Disabled Midget as a replacement imo.

[Winehole23]

Go blow a firehose, LockBeard.

[ducks]

You aren't the president, so I don't give a shit whom you pick.

You're just an internets nobody like the rest of us.

damm you have pms this time of the month

[ChumpDumper]

I'm always like this.

You, however, usually don't post anything approaching a coherent sentence.

Props for the effort here :tu

[Wild Cobra]

Who cares what she wants?

[balli]

Who cares what she wants?

+1. I think she's 100% right, but +1.

Do your job Ginsburg, leave anything outside the parameters of your job, to the people whose job it actually is.

Big pet peeve of mine when federal agencies or employees overstep their bounds and get into the arena of policy prescription.

(cough, fuck you DEA, cough)

[Yonivore]

Can you post a quote on this? Not that I don't believe you, I just haven't heard about it.
Obama’s Outcome Based Jurisprudence (http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/01/obama%E2%80%99s-outcome-based-jurisprudence/)

http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1895645,00.html?xid=rss-quotes (http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1895645,00.html?xid=rss-quotes)


http://img.timeinc.net/time/quotes/2009/05/0504_obama.jpg
"Justice isn't about some abstract legal theory or footnote in a case book. It is also about how our laws affect the daily realities of people's lives."


Obama on judges, Supreme Court (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/17/274143.aspx)


Speaking at the Planned Parenthood conference in DC this afternoon, Barack Obama leveled harsh words at conservative Supreme Court justices, and he offered his own intention to appoint justices with "empathy."


"We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."

[clambake]

this is an interesting thread..........because wild cobra wants a woman, too.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Obama’s Outcome Based Jurisprudence (http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/01/obama%E2%80%99s-outcome-based-jurisprudence/)

http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1895645,00.html?xid=rss-quotes (http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1895645,00.html?xid=rss-quotes)


http://img.timeinc.net/time/quotes/2009/05/0504_obama.jpg
"Justice isn't about some abstract legal theory or footnote in a case book. It is also about how our laws affect the daily realities of people's lives."


Obama on judges, Supreme Court (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/17/274143.aspx)


I am still trying find references to the internet in the constitution...

[Yonivore]

I am still trying find references to the internet in the constitution...
Which aspects of the internet? I mean, what specifically is there about the internet does the Constitution not address?

Our rights to free speech? Right there in the First Amendment.

Our ability to engage in trade over the internet? Covered.

Our right to own computers, servers, cabling, etc...? Yep. Property rights...check.

So, where is the Judiciary Act of 1789 specifically mentioned in the Constitution?

[FromWayDowntown]

So, where is the Judiciary Act of 1789 specifically mentioned in the Constitution?

You mean other than Article III, Section 1's statement that "The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court and such other inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish?"

I really can't imagine how anyone could have read that express provision of the Constitution to allow Congress to enact legislation that created a bunch of federal courts that were jurisdictionally inferior to the Supreme Court. Baffling to me, really.

[Yonivore]

You mean other than Article III, Section 1's statement that "The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court and such other inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish?"

I really can't imagine how anyone could have read that express provision of the Constitution to allow Congress to enact legislation that created a bunch of federal courts that were jurisdictionally inferior to the Supreme Court. Baffling to me, really.
So, you're agreeing the Constitution could contain language that relates to specific things without specifically mentioning those things in the document?

Again, what legal principles, under which the Internet exists and operates, not contemplated in the Constitution?

[ElNono]

Obama’s Outcome Based Jurisprudence (http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/01/obama%E2%80%99s-outcome-based-jurisprudence/)

http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1895645,00.html?xid=rss-quotes (http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1895645,00.html?xid=rss-quotes)


http://img.timeinc.net/time/quotes/2009/05/0504_obama.jpg
"Justice isn't about some abstract legal theory or footnote in a case book. It is also about how our laws affect the daily realities of people's lives."


Obama on judges, Supreme Court (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/17/274143.aspx)


I still can't reconcile any of those quotes with:



Hell, he's even suggested putting someone with no legal background but that has an ability to empathize and settle cases based on a just outcome instead of some "lofty legal theory."


Could you please post the quotes where he said that?

[TheProfessor]

I still can't reconcile any of those quotes with:



Could you please post the quotes where he said that?
To me, it sounds like Obama is seeking a justice in the Breyer mode. Considering his political pragmatism, I don't think that's very surprising.

[Winehole23]

I still can't reconcile any of those quotes with:



Could you please post the quotes where he said that?Yoni found an Obama soundbite he thought resembled bloggy platitudes about liberal justices.

He thought the resemblance was so plain, that mere juxtaposition would make the argument for him.

It's typical. Yoni can't really connect the dots. He just jumps to conclusions and blows dog whistles so he can identify his low information buddies in the thread.