Uplifting story illustrating how the Patriot Act is protecting us from Terrorism

[PixelPusher]

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[Ignignokt]

this would be okay with PP if the boy was to bomb an abortion clinic.

[PixelPusher]

this would be okay with PP if the boy was to bomb an abortion clinic.

Would it be ok with you if an American citizen could have due process?

[Ignignokt]

Would it be ok with you if an American citizen could have due process?

yes. an american citizen that is. I believe the patriot act needs revision.

[MiamiHeat]

Dear Mr Obama. Remember how we were all like, "Man this Patriot Act sucks!"
And you were all, "Hey lets change some things."
And we were all "Hell yea! Lets do it, here's a bunch a cash so you can get elected and fix things."
And you were all, "Hope!"
And were all like "Yea!"
And you were all like, "Change!"
And we were all like, "Fuck YEA!"

Remember that?

Good times.


I think the only way to know for sure if this kid is a terrorist is some waterboarding.

[DarrinS]

That kid needs a hair cut.

[Winehole23]

The Patriot Act needs a haircut.

[DarrinS]

The Patriot Act needs a haircut.

The Dems can do whatever they want.

[Barry O'Bama]

I support the Patriot Act and have even enabled our Govnt to listen in on calls within the US something the previous admin didn't have the guts to do.

[FaithInOne]

Absolutely disgusting.

[Wild Cobra]

Some official will go down for this mistake if the story is true.

Guess what folks... They did use a search warrant!

Think about it. They analyzed his computer. There ether is or isn't evidence to support his custody.

The story assumes the youth innocence. What if he really did make the threats? Now I doubt he did, and I think an official needs to be jailed for abuse of power. But in reality, none of us really know what the truth is.

[LnGrrrR]

The Dems can do whatever they want.

Yes, because the Dems are all robots, and will automatically vote 60 with every Dem proposal lol

Blue Dog Dems are barely in the same party as progressive Dems heh.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

:bang
Some official will go down for this mistake if the story is true.

Guess what folks... They did use a search warrant!

Think about it. They analyzed his computer. There ether is or isn't evidence to support his custody.

The story assumes the youth innocence. What if he really did make the threats? Now I doubt he did, and I think an official needs to be jailed for abuse of power. But in reality, none of us really know what the truth is.

As should the justice system. :bang

[Winehole23]

The story assumes the youth innocence. What if he really did make the threats? Now I doubt he did, and I think an official needs to be jailed for abuse of power. But in reality, none of us really know what the truth is.Let's assume the kid did make a threat.

Why would that be a national security issue rather than a routine criminal matter?

[PixelPusher]

follow up:


Bloggers, TV, Go Nuts Over Misleading ‘Patriot Act’ Arrest Claim (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/bloggers-tv-go-nuts-over-misleading-patriot-act-claim/)

* By Kevin Poulsen Email Author
* May 6, 2009 |

It’s the false TV news report heard ’round the world. Raleigh, North Carolina’s WRAL-5 reported last week that a 16-year-old bomb hoax suspect was hauled out of his mother’s home by federal agents, and is now being held without any legal rights on the authority of the 2001 USA PATRIOT Act, which “supersedes the Constitution.”

This tale of injustice has since shown up on Drudge, Digg, Reddit, and a thousand blogs and shoot-from-the-hip mailing lists. The boy’s name is rising on the Google Trends index. Radio show host Alex Jones interviewed the boy’s mother on Tuesday, and pundits on the left and right are seizing on the story to rail against the government’s unfettered power to make an innocent citizen disappear at will. Some outraged reports are claiming the teenager hasn’t even been charged with a crime.

The arrest of the teenager is real enough. FBI agents investigating a February 15 bomb hoax that evacuated the mechanical engineering building at Purdue University traced the phone call to the juvenile’s Oxford, North Carolina home, served his mother with a search warrant and arrested the teen. They issued a press release about it, omitting the suspect’s name. That was on March 5, and he’s been held without bail in Indiana ever since.

The claim that the boy is a victim of USA PATRIOT, though, appears to have been cut from whole cloth. While there’s plenty to criticize in that post-9/11 law, it doesn’t contain any provision that abrogates a defendant’s right to a trial. It’s also not responsible for making it illegal to phone in a bomb threat. That’s been a federal crime since 1939.

The boy’s mother, Annette Lundeby, has even acknowledged in interviews that her son has been formally charged, has a court-appointed attorney, and has already made appearances in front of a judge. No military tribunals here. On Alex Jones, Lundeby seemed to more-or-less admit that the USA PATRIOT connection was something she dreamed up on her own.

Jones: And they said they are charging him under the Patriot Act, so –

Lundeby: They’re not saying that, but that’s exactly what they’re doing.

Jones: Well, it’s in the newspaper.

Lundeby: All their actions point towards that. But they don’t deny it either.

It’s impossible not to empathize with this woman — a widow who saw her boy taken by rough federal agents and whisked to another state. Lundeby didn’t return a call from Threat Level, but she’s said she believes her son is innocent, and that he was with her, in church, at the time of the hoax. She says hackers framed her son by hijacking his internet IP address for a VOIP phone call to Purdue.

Caller ID spoofing seems more likely, if he really was framed. We’re not in a position to weigh the feds’ case, because — as in every federal prosecution of a minor — the file is under seal. That, too, has nothing to do with USA PATRIOT: It’s a provision of federal law intended to give juvenile defendants a clean slate when they reach adulthood.

And that’s the potential irony of the bogus reporting around this case. If the boy has the airtight alibi his mother describes, we’ll eventually know it: no prosecutor will take a case like that to trial, and some federal agents will rightfully find themselves in hot water. The feds have had the teenager’s computer for months, and they certainly know by now whether they have the right guy or not.

But if he’s guilty, he’ll cop a plea or lose at trial. And then everyone whose been spinning this case into a tale of federal storm troopers abusing a draconian anti-terror law will have succeeded only in denying a 16-year-old boy the fresh start that the justice system would have given him.

Either way, the USA PATRIOT Act still won’t trump the Constitution.

[Winehole23]

The Patriot Act still needs a haircut, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Winehole23]

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[Bender]

Get ready. Stormtroopers comin'.

Comin' up that street, jackboots steppin' high.

Ted Nugent - "Stormtroopin"

[angrydude]

well, then the democrats should get rid of it already.

They basically have a fillibusterproof majority everywhere now.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

Why do people always fall for such things,.

You can tell from my first posting, I was skeptical of the information given, and that if it were true, it was illegal abuse of power.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid you lemmings. You'll believe anything that is against the things you dislike.

Thanx Pixil for the link.

[Wild Cobra]

One more thing. When will people stop believing the likes of Alex Jones?

[Winehole23]

LOL...

Why do people always fall for such things,.

All I said was the Patriot Act needs a haircut. That's still true IMO.

[Ignignokt]

All I said was the Patriot Act needs a haircut. That's still true IMO.


Well the budget certainly got a hair cut.

[Winehole23]

Well the budget certainly got a hair cut.More of a trim around the bangs.

[Bender]

Patriot Act needs to be castrated actually, not just a hair cut

[Winehole23]

Radical!

Sign me up!

[Wild Cobra]

Well the budget certainly got a hair cut.
No it didn't. It's just not going to be as large as they want it. It's still the largest budget on record, at how many trillions of a deficit?

[Winehole23]

No it didn't. It's just not going to be as large as they want it. It's still the largest budget on record, at how many trillions of a deficit?Tough crowd. Now you're correcting bad jokes for accuracy, WC?:lol

[Extra Stout]

Tough crowd. Now you're correcting bad jokes for accuracy, WC?:lol
He was too busy putting ketchup on his nutria burger to understand the pun.

[Wild Cobra]

He was too busy putting ketchup on his nutria burger to understand the pun.
And that burger actually tasted good!

[Spurminator]

God help Obama if he ever eats sushi.

[Winehole23]

God help Obama if he ever eats sushi.In private, you know he will.