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j-6
05-07-2009, 09:19 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4147732

PHOENIX -- Big 12 coaches have rejected a proposal to change the controversial tiebreaker that gave Oklahoma the nod over Texas in the three-way tie in the Big 12 South last season.

Meeting at a resort on Wednesday, they voted to keep the Bowl Championship Series standings as the method to break ties between more than two teams. Under that rule, the Sooners edged the Longhorns by 13 thousandths of a point in December.

The coaches had considered adopting a three-team tiebreaker that would eliminate the lowest-ranked team in the BCS standings, then go to the head-to-head result of the remaining two teams. If that had been in place last year, Texas Tech would have been eliminated, and Texas would have emerged as the division champion because it had defeated Oklahoma.

"The tiebreaker system we had was felt, by the majority of coaches, to be appropriate to what we want to accomplish," commissioner Dan Beebe said. "There's risks in either one. We had one risk last year."

The coaches' recommendation will go to Big 12 athletic directors, who may still change the tiebreaker.

Beebe said the coaches decided to stick with the BCS standings as a tiebreaker because of the national title implications. Under the rejected tiebreaker, it's possible that a fifth-ranked team could earn the nod because of a victory over a team ranked No. 1 or 2 -- and that might cost the Big 12 a shot at the national title.

"The motive is to give the best chance for a team to play in the national championship," Beebe said. "Obviously, we had a scenario (in 2008), hopefully we'll never have that again."

Last fall, the wild Big 12 South ended in a three-way tie between Oklahoma, Texas and Texas Tech.

Oklahoma defeated Texas Tech, which defeated Texas, which defeated Oklahoma, leaving all three teams with a claim to the division crown.

It came down to the fifth tiebreaker, and Oklahoma won out, earning a berth in the Big 12 championship game against Missouri.

Oklahoma finished a single point ahead of Texas in the USA Today coaches' poll and six points behind the Longhorns in the Harris Poll. That left it to the computer ratings, and the Sooners came out on top in four of the six.

The Sooners beat the Tigers for the Big 12 title and went on to play Florida in the BCS national championship game.

Texas was left playing Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl.

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I wonder if Leach and Mack were the only two trying to vote it away?

mookie2001
05-08-2009, 07:52 AM
what exactly are the risks to eliminating the lowest bcs team?

that teams gonna get fucked either way



could happen again this year with OSU texas and OU

samikeyp
05-08-2009, 08:17 PM
:td

pkbpkb81
05-08-2009, 09:47 PM
what exactly are the risks to eliminating the lowest bcs team?

that teams gonna get fucked either way



could happen again this year with OSU texas and OU

It veary well could happen again this year

ou beats texas then texas goes to osu and wins and ou gets beat by osu in the last game of the year and texas gets over

or

ut beats ou, ut loses to osu and than the sooners beat osu in the last game of the season ou gets over

but honestly there is no way osu ever has a real shoot at the south the best the little cow pokes can hope for is to be this years txteack

pkbpkb81
05-08-2009, 09:49 PM
I know your all going to disagree but i dont like the way the sec dose it, you cant just throw out the 3rd team in a 3 way tie

like i said this could easyly work agains ou this year and i am still fine with it

Cant_Be_Faded
05-09-2009, 01:13 AM
like i said this could easyly work agains ou this year and i am still fine with it

Really? in a rock-paper-scissors situation a rock always has a chance of winning? How insightful.

This could be easily ameliorated by dropping the 3rd team if its substantially lower in BCS ranking than 1 and 2.

But if they're close, it would be unfair.
Logically, it makes no sense to use a system that ranks teams nationally as a tiebreaker for teams competing in a conference, with the winner getting a higher ranking in the system that ranks teams nationally.

Oh well, water under the bridge.

pkbpkb81
05-09-2009, 09:52 AM
i love how texas fans wanna drop the lowest team since it was the team that beat you


you cant forget about the 3rd team in a 3 way tie

mookie2001
05-09-2009, 10:11 AM
you love that huh?

the second team is the team that beat you

pkbpkb81
05-09-2009, 11:01 AM
and the 3rd team beat you and it could be the other way this year but it is still the best system.

look OU got over last year ut beat them but you still cant throw teck out becuse they were also 11-1 and 7-1 in the big 12

when there is a 3 way tie you have to look at all 3 teams and there isent a fair way to do but what the big 12 has is the best thats out there

Holmes_Fans
05-09-2009, 11:29 AM
If this happens again there is no way in hell the voters put OU in over one of the other 2 teams. No one wants to see them lay an egg again.

pkbpkb81
05-09-2009, 11:36 AM
it really depends on when each team has there loss

if ou losses to osu the last weekend of the season your right but if they win that a game and its a 3 way tie ou goes over again

look in collage football all that matters is when you lose

ou or tx could loes in october and could still get to the title game over the other


what year was it that texas lost to ou and then still played in the big 12 title game?
you rember the colardo embressed you
see so a lose in october dosent end your year it just makes it less fun

CubanSucks
05-09-2009, 03:43 PM
what exactly are the risks to eliminating the lowest bcs team?

that teams gonna get fucked either way

EXACTLY!!! Everyone readin this? This is so fucking true I don't know who they think they're kidding

pkbpkb81
05-09-2009, 05:59 PM
I love how all the ut fans are mad but in the artical it says the ad's may still change the rule

i like the rule the way it is but it dosent matter as long as all the teams know what the rule is befor the season starts.


i would like to know how all the coaches voted, its safe to say mack voted no and stoops went yes

G-Nob
05-21-2009, 03:55 PM
Dropping the 3rd team makes sense. Regardless of how it turned out this past season, the same scenario can come back and bite OU or another team next year. The important issue is to get a system in place that dismisses the 3rd team. Since it usually favors the hotter team at the end of the season, the influence of the media plays too big of a part.