Did Ron Artest Flop?

[Allanon]

I haven't been able to get a replay of that "throat slash" yet. But it seems like Ron didn't even get elbowed in the throat. Kobe's arm was too low.

I heard on the radio they had gone over the play time and again and there was no hit to the throat.

So why was Artest "signaling an elbow to the throat" when he didn't even get hit there?

Was this just a major flop by Ron Ron so Kobe would get tossed? BTW, you can see Kobe's elbow at Ron's chest AND you can see Ron's elbow at Kobe's neck.

Maybe Ron was signalling that he had elbowed Kobe in the neck? :lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg

[Spur-Addict]

Stop with the bullshit.

[Allanon]

Stop with the bullshit.

Open your eyes and look at the picture. Kobe's elbow is clearly NOT at Ron's neck while Ron's elbow is at Kobe's neck. :lol

[DPG21920]

Nah. Please post the entire gif or you are not clutch.

[Spur-Addict]

Stop with the bullshit.

[TheMACHINE]

he didnt flop man...but the spurs fans are fired up cuz they are bored and already caught a buttload of fish

[lefty]

Denial

LMAO Laker fans

[ElNono]

That picture is BEFORE Kobe threw the elbow. It's the same picture claiming that RonRon elbowed Kobe first (if you see the video, you'll know it's bollocks)

[poop]

LMAO at him 'trying to get kobe tossed'... kobe could take out a gun and shoot a fan in the first row and he wouldnt get tossed.

[Allanon]

That picture is BEFORE Kobe threw the elbow. It's the same picture claiming that RonRon elbowed Kobe first (if you see the video, you'll know it's bollocks)

Whether or not it is before or after, you can see Ron's elbow on Kobe's neck, which ain't cool. This is a foul right?

And watching the video, I can't see how this is BEFORE the elbow. That's the point of impact right there.

[DPG21920]

whether or not it is before or after, you can see ron's elbow on kobe's neck, which ain't cool. this is a foul right?

and watching the video, i can't see how this is before the elbow. That's the point of impact right there.

yes. They called a foul on ron jack ass.

[BlackSwordsMan]

2 game suspension if he were a sun

[Allanon]

yes. They called a foul on ron jack ass.

Then why is Ron Ron the victim here?

So we have a picture with Ron's elbow to Kobe's neck. And we also have a picture of Kobe with an elbow in Ron's chest.

They both had a dirty play there, why is everybody just looking at Kobe's elbow and not Ron's? Ron's play was dirty as was Kobe's. Ron's came first and Kobe's was in retaliation.

[hater]

Lakerfans are the most sensitive bunch of pussies I ever seen.

they keep making threads to get some kind of love. won't find it here pussies.

[Allanon]

Lakerfans are the most sensitive bunch of pussies I ever seen.

keep making threads to get some kind of love. won't find it here pussies.

Stupid Spurfan still hanging around in the offseason.

How's the draft coming along bitch? :lol

[koriwhat]

stupid faker fan still thinks he's signed into fakertalk.com

[hater]

stupid faker fan still thinks he's signed into fakertalk.com

:lol

[ElNono]

Whether or not it is before or after, you can see Ron's elbow on Kobe's neck, which ain't cool. This is a foul right?

And watching the video, I can't see how this is BEFORE the elbow. That's the point of impact right there.

Jeez... Here's the video:

ieNEROwojUo

And here's the point of impact:

http://i40.tinypic.com/14kk754.png

[Allanon]

That picture is BEFORE Kobe threw the elbow. It's the same picture claiming that RonRon elbowed Kobe first (if you see the video, you'll know it's bollocks)

I've gone through the ENTIRE video frame. There isn't a single frame with Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck.

You noticed that nobody has been able to come up with one...it doesn't exist :lol

[poop]

the elbow thing was really not much of an issue, it shouldnt have been a foul either way. but Artest getting EJECTED for TALKING to kobe is a joke considering what Rondo has got away with so far.

[ElNono]

I've gone through the ENTIRE video frame. There isn't a single frame with Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck.

You noticed that nobody has been able to come up with one...it doesn't exist :lol


And here's the point of impact:

http://i40.tinypic.com/14kk754.png

[Cry Havoc]

This needed another thread.

[poop]

Rondo smacks millers head, bloodies him = standard playoff foul.

Rondo grabs heinrich and throws him into a table = double tech including on on heinrich for getting thrown into a table.

Artest talks to kobe = EJECTION!!!!!!!!!

[Allanon]

And here's the point of impact:

http://i40.tinypic.com/14kk754.png

Hahah, how is that the point of impact? If anything that looks like more of Ron fouling Kobe.

And where's Kobe's elbow? You can't even see Kobe's elbow, but you clearly see Ron's elbow at Kobe's neck.

Are you saying that Ron isn't fouling Kobe pretty good in your own picture?

[ElNono]

Hahah, how is that the point of impact? If anything that looks like more of Ron fouling Kobe.

Look at the fucking video. 1:10. That's exactly when he nails him in the throat. It's right before RonRon's head goes back from the impact.

You keep arguing with phony pictures, when you have a fucking crystal clear video.

[Spur-Addict]

I'm not sure if this is one big joke or not.

[Allanon]

Look at the fucking video. 1:10. That's exactly when he nails him in the throat. It's right before RonRon's head goes back from the impact.

I'm looking at your fucking picture.

It shows Ron's elbow clearly at Kobe's neck and you can't see Kobe's arm at all.

NOBODY can come up with a picture of Kobe's elbow at Ron's neck but we all assume he did because Ron told us he did. But we can all see Ron's elbow at Kobe's neck and it's no big deal.

If it's so easy to see Kobe elbowing Ron in the throat, where is a picture of it?

NOT ONE person has posted a picture of Kobe's elbow touching Ron's neck, but every body just wants to believe it's there.

Where's the picture?

If anything, that looks like Ron elbowing Kobe in the neck, not the other way around. That's another Ron foul in your picture.

How is Kobe doing ANYTHING wrong in your video frame?
http://i40.tinypic.com/14kk754.png

Obviously you can see the elbow in Ron's chest here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg

[ElNono]

Look at the fucking video.


I'm looking at your fucking picture.

We seem to be having a communication problem. Are you this dense?



It shows Ron's elbow clearly at Kobe's neck and you can't see Kobe's arm at all.


Look at the video. When you do, you'll know exactly where Kobe's arm is.

[Allanon]

We seem to be having a communication problem. Are you this dense?

Maybe you're just that stupid. You keep talking about seeing something that isn't there.



Look at the video. When you do, you'll know exactly where Kobe's arm is.

I can show you plenty of Ron elbows on Kobe's neck. How do you feel about Ron's elbow on Kobe, ElNono?

Show me a picture of Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck or it didn't happen.

[Spur-Addict]

El Nono, this must be some sort of joke just to nudge at people. If it isn't, then there's no use in attempting to explain.

[N4th4n]

I'm looking at your fucking picture.

It shows Ron's elbow clearly at Kobe's neck and you can't see Kobe's arm at all.

NOBODY can come up with a picture of Kobe's elbow at Ron's neck but we all assume he did because Ron told us he did. But we can all see Ron's elbow at Kobe's neck and it's no big deal.

If anything, that looks like Ron elbowing Kobe in the neck, not the other way around. That's another Ron foul in your picture.

How is Kobe doing ANYTHING wrong in your video frame?
http://i40.tinypic.com/14kk754.png

Obviously you can see the elbow in Ron's chest here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg

Stop posting that picture, you are only making your self look like an idiot. That picture is not when he got hit in the throat it is BEFORE you moron. By your logic I could show a picture of Hitler enjoying a cup of tea at age 20 and claim it proves he never killed jews. Kobe has a long history of dirty elbows, ask Raja Bell.

[Allanon]

Stop posting that picture, you are only making your self look like an idiot. That picture is not when he got hit in the throat it is BEFORE you moron. By your logic I could show a picture of Hitler enjoying a cup of tea at age 20 and claim it proves he never killed jews. Kope has a long history of dirty elbows, ask Raja Bell.

Again, if it's so easy to see Kobe elbowing Ron Artest in the throat, where is this picture?

You're saying it happened, where is the picture of it?

[ElNono]

Maybe you're just that stupid. You keep talking about seeing something that isn't there.


It's right here. Where's the RonRon flop? Are you gonna deny Kobe elbowed him?

ieNEROwojUo



I can show you plenty of Ron elbows on Kobe's neck. How do you feel about Ron's elbow on Kobe, ElNono?

Show me a picture of Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck or it didn't happen.

Well, this is when you turn into your average irrational Laker fan.

[Allanon]

It's right here. Where's the RonRon flop? Are you gonna deny Kobe elbowed him?

No, I see it myself, Kobe elbow Ron in the chest, it's right here. What I'm saying is he didn't hit him in the throat as Ron claims.

Ron flopped his "throat hit" (it was a chest hit) and all you fish bought it hook line and sinker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg



Well, this is when you turn into your average irrational Laker fan.

So you're saying you never saw it either, I knew the picture didn't exist.

Nobody can come up with a picture of Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck even with a video in plain sight, very odd.

[hater]

OMG I didn't know Allanon was this dumb

[RedsLakers24]

Allanon is not saying that Kobe didnt elbow him cuz he clearly did, he is saying he elbowed him in the chest and not in the neck like Ron is claiming Kobe did, You could see Ron's elbow all over Kobes neck so it was Kobe's retaliation, but i agree Ron should have never been ejected it should have been a no call since both players fouled each other

[Spur-Addict]

Even Collins saw it, and he's a big Kobe fan. It's quite evident to say so myself. You can catch him getting ready at 1:09, then landing at 1:10. Come on Kobe, you don't have to play that way when you're the second best player in the world.

[Allanon]

OMG I didn't know Allanon was this dumb

OMG, I never knew your mom's ear was so tight.

[DPG21920]

Kobe's arm is pointed upward, the reason you cannot see his arm is bc Artest is not a window. You are being pretty pathetic right now.

By the way, once again, Ron got called for a foul, so what is your point? Kobe retaliated by throwing a bow (which he has been suspended for numerous times).

[RedsLakers24]

So if Ron says kobe did hit him in the Throat we must believe him and suspend Kobe?

[hhml]

If anything, Ron should've been called for the first foul. But since they let so much contact go in the post, this being the post season where there are more physical plays, no foul should've been called and just let the play go on. Ron went after Kobe and was right in his face.

The game was getting chippy at that point so Ron getting a T was reasonable. Then he made a throat slash motion the first time and that's why he got tossed I think. It was understandable given the state the game was in at that point. Only after Ron got that 2nd tech did he started making gestures like he got hit in the neck, twice.

[DPG21920]

Watch the video. No throat slash was made. Just the elbow across the throat. Laker fans are dumb, led by Dr.House.

[DAF86]

No, I see it myself, Kobe elbow Ron in the chest, it's right here. What I'm saying is he didn't hit him in the throat as Ron claims.

Ron flopped his "throat hit" (it was a chest hit) and all you fish bought it hook line and sinker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg



So you're saying you never saw it either, I knew the picture didn't exist.

Nobody can come up with a picture of Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck even with a video in plain sight, very odd.

Why the hell would Artest say that Kobe elbowed him on the throat if it was a lie? knowing that there're lots of cameras that can prove him wrong and then he would look like a fool (exactly like you're looking right now Allanon). Stop trying to find scapegoats on pictures and look at the fucking video.

[RedsLakers24]

Why the hell would Artest say that Kobe elbowed him on the throat if it was a lie? knowing that there're lots of cameras that can prove him wrong and then he would look like a fool (exactly like you're looking right now Allanon). Stop trying to find scapegoats on pictures and look at the fucking video.

Because an elbow above the shoulders is an automatic suspension, anything below will be view by the league and determine

[Mad_Hatter]

where's the baseline angle?

personally i think it should have been an equal foul on each. what is wrong is Ron getting ejected for getting in kobe's face.

[nkdlunch]

No, I see it myself, Kobe elbow Ron in the chest, it's right here. What I'm saying is he didn't hit him in the throat as Ron claims.

Ron flopped his "throat hit" (it was a chest hit) and all you fish bought it hook line and sinker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg



So you're saying you never saw it either, I knew the picture didn't exist.

Nobody can come up with a picture of Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck even with a video in plain sight, very odd.

please tell me you are joking.

You are showing a picture of seconds before Kobe's elbow. It is like showing a picture of the twin towers and say that 911 never happened. :downspin:

[hhml]

Watch 1:36 - 1:38. Ron was saying he got elbowed but the gesture he did made it look like a threat. One swift motion from right to left across the neck. That is what Joey took it as.

[ElNono]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg


LOL @ totally ignoring the video and pushing with this picture that has RonRon already falling back from the blow. :lmao

So, because RonRon is not transparent, it didn't happen?
Are you listening to yourself?

[RedsLakers24]

LOL @ totally ignoring the video and pushing with this picture that has RonRon already falling back from the blow. :lmao

So, because RonRon is not transparent, it didn't happen?
Are you listening to yourself?

Yeah but there is no other angle from the video and from the video they have it doesnt seem clear that kobe elbowed him the throat, so if its not clear that it was in they throat you are going to suspend him becasue ron said he elbowed him in the throat

[DPG21920]

Watch 1:36 - 1:38. Ron was saying he got elbowed but the gesture he did made it look like a threat. One swift motion from right to left across the neck. That is what Joey took it as.

Lakers fans seem able to only look at the basic evidence. They do not know how to use deductive reasoning. Look at things in context.

[ElNono]

Yeah but there is no other angle from the video and from the video they have it doesnt seem clear that kobe elbowed him the throat, so if its not clear that it was in they throat you are going to suspend him becasue ron said he elbowed him in the throat

I already said Kobe shouldn't be suspended, and Artest shouldn't have been ejected. You missed the point entirely.

[DPG21920]

I already said Kobe shouldn't be suspended, and Artest shouldn't have been ejected. You missed the point entirely.

Are you surprised? Dr.House, Lakaluva, 21 blessings, Allanon and Sasha; your Lakers starting 5

[hhml]

Lakers fans seem able to only look at the basic evidence. They do not know how to use deductive reasoning. Look at things in context.

There were other fans, probably some of the Spurs fans too, saying the same thing at the initial play.

[mavs>spurs2]

lmao @ Artest

"Hit me in my throat again. Hit me in my throat again. Hit me in my fuckin throat again!"

:lmao Kobe looked scared

[iggypop123]

he got hit in the chest. espn says they saw another angle and it was in the chest.

[RedsLakers24]

he got hit in the chest. espn says they saw another angle and it was in the chest.

Yeah but everybody wants kobe suspended becasue he rape someone

[Allanon]

Kobe's arm is pointed upward, the reason you cannot see his arm is bc Artest is not a window. You are being pretty pathetic right now.

Ah, so the truth finally comes out, you can't see Ron Artest getting elbowed in the throat.

Kobe elbowed Ron Artest in the throat, but we just couldn't see it.

We're just going to take Ron Artest's word for it.

[Allanon]

he got hit in the chest. espn says they saw another angle and it was in the chest.

Yup, they said he got hit right on the Jersey.

But don't let facts get in the way, Ron Artest, the most sane player in the NBA said he got hit in the "throat"...we must believe him. And besides, all the fans say he did but you can't see Kobe hitting him in the throat because Ron Artest is in the way :lol

[Double-Up]

Better angle and it does show Kobe elbowed Artest in the neck. I don't think it warrants a suspension but he should be punished in some manner.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4149491

[ElNono]

he got hit in the chest. espn says they saw another angle and it was in the chest.

No they didn't. This is the quote:

"but replays appeared to show Bryant's elbow striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"


Please stop making stuff up.

[Allanon]

Better angle and it does show Kobe elbowed Artest in the neck. I don't think it warrants a suspension but he should be punished in some manner.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4149491

That's the video, if you look, Kobe's elbow hits Ron right on the R of Rockets. That's on his jersey and not the neck.

If you guys still can't see it, I can extract that frame from this video if you wish.

[Allanon]

striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"


This.

[DPG21920]

Ah, so the truth finally comes out, you can't see Ron Artest getting elbowed in the throat.

Kobe elbowed Ron Artest in the throat, but we just couldn't see it.

We're just going to take Ron Artest's word for it.


Better angle and it does show Kobe elbowed Artest in the neck. I don't think it warrants a suspension but he should be punished in some manner.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4149491

/thread.

[Allanon]

/thread.


striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"



That's the video, if you look, Kobe's elbow hits Ron right on the R of Rockets. That's on his jersey and not the neck.

If you guys still can't see it, I can extract that frame from this video if you wish.

This I agree upon. Toldja it wasn't on the neck.

[DPG21920]

It was right in the lower part of Ron's throat. It is clear. There is only like 5 inches between the top of a logo and the bottom part of the throat.

[Allanon]

It was right in the lower part of Ron's throat. It is clear. There is only like 5 inches between the top of a log and the bottom part of the throat.

The Rockets wear v-neck jerseys, if you hit a guy on the jersey, it's obviously not on the neck.


striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"


Look at where the R in Rockets is, that's nowhere near the fully exposed neck.

http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2008-w51/img.444568_t.jpg

[ElNono]

NOBODY can come up with a picture of Kobe's elbow at Ron's neck

Where's the picture?

Obviously you can see the elbow in Ron's chest here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

Game Over.

[DPG21920]

The camera showed the elbow landing clearly above the logo. Maybe not the entire elbow, but a portion of the arm was in the throat region.

[DPG21920]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

Game Over.

End Thread. Again.

[Allanon]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

Game Over.

Hahah, maybe Kobe hit Artest with a shadow? You can clearly see his elbow is NOT touching the throat, only chest.

There's no contact with the throat in your picture. :lol

Look at Ron's face, he looks perfectly happy in your picture, a bit too happy for somebody hit in the throat? :lol

[DPG21920]

Hahah, maybe Kobe hit Artest with a shadow? You can clearly see his elbow is NOT touching the throat, only chest.

There's no contact with the throat in your picture. :lol

Did you join before or after the Gasol trade?

[DrHouse]

:lmao at Spur fan get COMPLETELY HUMILIATED.

Ron Artest FLOPPED like a little bitch and deserved to get ejected for it. Replay CLEARLY shows he was hit in the chest and not in the neck like he cried about.

Spur fan just kill yourself. After the 1st round beatdown from the fucking Mavginas you come in and disgrace yourself again with your false accusations against Kobe. Just pathetic.

[DrHouse]

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/video?id=4149491

[ElNono]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/spadum/de-motivational%20posters/denial.jpg

[DrHouse]

:lmao at Spur fan get COMPLETELY HUMILIATED.

Ron Artest FLOPPED like a little bitch and deserved to get ejected for it. Replay CLEARLY shows he was hit in the chest and not in the neck like he cried about.

Spur fan just kill yourself. After the 1st round beatdown from the fucking Mavginas you come in and disgrace yourself again with your false accusations against Kobe. Just pathetic.

[Allanon]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

I'm looking at the picture again and just realized you just owned yourself with that picture.

Kobe is on his tippytoes on the left foot. On the right foot, he's clearly being lifted off the ground with Ron's knee.

Meanwhile, you can clearly see Artest with his elbow on Kobe's neck.

Look at it again, that is a picture of Ron Artest fouling Kobe.

Hahah. :lol

[mavs>spurs2]

You can plainly see from the video that he elbowed Ron in the throat. 1,000 still shots from moments before the elbow to the throat don't mean that it didn't happen. Just watch the video. Still not suspension worthy though since they were fighting for position, but I see why Ron was pissed. Should have called a tech and been done with it.

[DPG21920]

:lmao at Spur fan get COMPLETELY HUMILIATED.

Ron Artest FLOPPED like a little bitch and deserved to get ejected for it. Replay CLEARLY shows he was hit in the chest and not in the neck like he cried about.

Spur fan just kill yourself. After the 1st round beatdown from the fucking Mavginas you come in and disgrace yourself again with your false accusations against Kobe. Just pathetic.

Laker fans can't talk shit, you lost to the Celtics. LMFAO, the Celtics. You have lost the right to shit talk. Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself.

[DrHouse]

:lmao at Spur fan refusing to look at the reverse angle footage which completely destroys their pathetic arguments.

[Allanon]

:lmao at Spur fan refusing to look at the reverse angle footage which completely destroys their pathetic arguments.

Shhh, girl, shhhh... don't let the facts get in the way of hate. :lol

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:OqiMz0BfqtBd6M:http://amandadowling.co.uk/dsc_5508.jpg

[DPG21920]

:lmao at Spur fan refusing to look at the reverse angle footage which completely destroys their pathetic arguments.


Shhh, girl, don't let the facts get in the way of hate. :lol

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:OqiMz0BfqtBd6M:http://amandadowling.co.uk/dsc_5508.jpg

How cute. You guys can compare join dates.

[DPG21920]

You can plainly see from the video that he elbowed Ron in the throat. 1,000 still shots from moments before the elbow to the throat don't mean that it didn't happen. Just watch the video. Still not suspension worthy though since they were fighting for position, but I see why Ron was pissed. Should have called a tech and been done with it.


:lmao at Spur fan refusing to look at the reverse angle footage which completely destroys their pathetic arguments.

Shhhhhh, girl.

[Allanon]

How cute. You guys can compare join dates.

That "shhh girl" was pretty funny, had to copy. But let's stick with the subject.


striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"


Let it go guys, with this new video posted, you can see Kobe hit him on the R on his Rockets jersey.

It was an elbow either way. Both Artest and Kobe got theirs in that video.

[DPG21920]

Upperchest, lower throat same region. That is like saying "I hit him in the jaw, not the face".

Clinging to semantics is what is funny. You cannot see Ron's throat in that picture can you? Where did it go?

[Allanon]

Upperchest, lower throat same region. That is like saying "I hit him in the jaw, not the face".

Upper chest and throat are the same region? That's like saying I punched him in the face, not the throat. Two separate areas.

The chest can take a helluva lot more pounding than the throat.



Clinging to semantics is what is funny. You cannot see Ron's throat in that picture can you? Where did it go?

Hahah, you can clearly see there's no contact (there's a shadow under Kobe's elbow, Kobe's elbow is clearly not touching Ron's throat at all).

This is a picture of Artest clearly fouling Kobe, not the other way around. Just look at how high off the ground both Kobe's feet are while Artest's feet are fully planted :lol

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

[La Peace]

Laker fans can't talk shit, you lost to the Celtics. LMFAO, the Celtics. You have lost the right to shit talk. Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself.

And you lost to the Lakers

Get back in line

[DPG21920]

And you lost to the Lakers

Get back in line


This is not about the Spurs. It is about the Lakers getting owned by the Celtics.

[ElNono]

I'm looking at the picture again and just realized you just owned yourself with that picture.

Kobe is on his tippytoes on the left foot. On the right foot, he's clearly being lifted off the ground with Ron's knee.

Meanwhile, you can clearly see Artest with his elbow on Kobe's neck.

Look at it again, that is a picture of Ron Artest fouling Kobe.


You need to go see a ophthalmologist. Just look at the fucking video.
Kobe is spinning left while delivering the blow, that's exactly why his left foot is tippy toeing. His right foot is up because that's how people spin over one foot. Have you ever tried to spin flat footed?

Jeez you guys are pathetic.

[DPG21920]

Upper chest and throat are the same region? That's like saying I punched him in the face, not the throat. Two separate areas.

The chest can take a helluva lot more pounding than the throat.



Hahah, you can clearly see there's no contact (there's a shadow under Kobe's elbow, Kobe's elbow is clearly not touching Ron's throat at all).

This is a picture of Artest clearly fouling Kobe, not the other way around. Just look at how high off the ground both Kobe's feet are while Artest's feet are fully planted :lol

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

Does the chest not flow into the throat? Like I said, part of his arm hit his upper chest, part his throat.

[Allanon]

You need to go see a ophthalmologist. Just look at the fucking video.
Kobe is spinning left while delivering the blow, that's exactly why his left foot is tippy toeing. His right foot is up because that's how people spin over one foot. Have you ever tried to spin flat footed?

Jeez you guys are pathetic.

I think you need some glasses with a rewind button.

Kobe hitting Ron Artest in the chest occurred when Kobe was looking forward at the basket. Your picture has him facing the side of the court

Just stop :lol

Kobe facing forward with contact
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg

Ron Artest fouling Kobe from behind (your picture)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

And here's the video, Kobe is obviously looking straight forward when he elbows Ron Ron. Not sideways like in your picture :lol

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4149491

[Allanon]

Does the chest not flow into the throat? Like I said, part of his arm hit his upper chest, part his throat.

And the chest all flows into the nutz. I guess you could say Kobe elbowed him in the nutz too :lol


striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"

[DPG21920]

And the chest all flows into the nutz. I guess you could say Kobe elbowed him in the nutz too :lol

Yes. Because the lower part of one's throat compared to the proximity of the upper chest is equidistant from the upper chest to the nuts.

We now have Dr. House and Dr. Allanon.

[Allanon]

Yes. Because the lower part of one's throat compared to the proximity of the upper chest is equidistant from the upper chest to the nuts.

We now have Dr. House and Dr. Allanon.

Chest = Throat, gotcha Dr DPG :lol

[DrHouse]

:lmao at pathetic Spur fan backtracking.

Now upper chest = throat. Fucking morons. No wonder, San Antonio education at its best.

[ElNono]

Kobe hitting Ron Artest in the chest occurred when Kobe was looking forward at the basket. Your picture has him facing the side of the court

Just stop :lol




And here's the video, Kobe is obviously looking straight forward when he elbows Ron Ron. Not sideways like in your picture :lol

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4149491

It's funny, because I grabbed that picture FROM THAT EXACT VIDEO.

Here, argue with the video. I set it to loop forever, so you can drill it in your head:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/753/elbowdesktop.gif

Game Over

[DPG21920]

Chest = Throat, gotcha Dr DPG :lol

Please quote me saying the Chest=Throat. I said you can see part of his arm hit the chest and another part hit the throat.

[nil.ball]

It's funny, because I grabbed that picture FROM THAT EXACT VIDEO.

Here, argue with the video. I set it to loop forever, so you can drill it in your head:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/753/elbowdesktop.gif

Game Over

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4149491&categoryid=2459788
Why can't refs review this during the game? This was blatantly obvious elbow.
Why can't they review the play? :depressed

[Allanon]

It's funny, because I grabbed that picture FROM THAT EXACT VIDEO.

Here, argue with the video. I set it to loop forever, so you can drill it in your head:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/753/elbowdesktop.gif

Game Over

Yup, like I said, Kobe was facing forward when he delivered the elbow to the chest. When he hits Kobe, you can see the entire word Lakers on his jersey.

Your picture here was way before the elbow, you can't read anything on his jersey....note Kobe is sideways being lifted off the ground by Artest (look at the feet).

Loop your picture a few more times, you'll get it. Your picture isn't of Kobe's elbow, it's a picture of Artest fouling Kobe.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

[DPG21920]

He spun to deliver the elbow.


Ron got called for the foul.

[RedsLakers24]

He spun to deliver the elbow.


Ron got called for the foul.

Yeah but ron was fouling him before the elbow

[Allanon]

He spun to deliver the elbow.


Ron got called for the foul.

I'm not denying the elbow, I'm saying it was a hit to the chest, not the throat. Ron was fouling Kobe the entire play.

Elbow to the throat/head = suspension
Elbow to the chest = no suspension

Kobe obviously hits Artest on the R of his Rockets jersey.

Ron Artest faked a hit on the throat to get Kobe suspended but the replay shows otherwise. Smart flop by Artest, almost panned out too. Fooled alot of sheep out there but luckily the replays show different.



striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"



Rule 12, Part A, Section 5-Q of the official NBA rulebook cites: "Elbow fouls which make contact above shoulder level, and punching fouls, although recorded as both personal and team fouls, are unsportsmanlike acts. The player will be ejected immediately."

[DPG21920]

Yeah but ron was fouling him before the elbow

Ron got called for the foul. Kobe, nothing for the elbow. Players get fouled all the time, should you be able to throw an elbow at the guy who fouled you every time?

[Flux451]

Kobe had every right to clear Artest off his neck if the refs were not going to call a foul.


According to the US Amendments? Moral Ethics? Nba Rules? Newton's real first law?

[MiamiHeat]

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3937/kobeelbow.jpg

[Flux451]

No, I see it myself, Kobe elbow Ron in the chest, it's right here. What I'm saying is he didn't hit him in the throat as Ron claims.

Ron flopped his "throat hit" (it was a chest hit) and all you fish bought it hook line and sinker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg



So you're saying you never saw it either, I knew the picture didn't exist.

Nobody can come up with a picture of Kobe's elbow on Ron's neck even with a video in plain sight, very odd.

STFU. He elbowed Artest in the throat to clear him off. Artest fouled him in the box out. The elbow was excessive. Not necessarily where Kobe aimed but it was malicious. Pending Flagrant foul after review post game. end of story.

[ElNono]

Allanon: Post a phony annotated picture, and ask if Artest flopped.
Nono: Video posted.
Allanon: Since there's no actual picture of Kobe's elbow on Artest throat, it didn't happen.
Nono: Photo posted.
Allanon: Kobe is tippy toeing on his left foot!
Nono: Video posted with better angle.
Allanon: Kobe is not facing forward!

I mean, really?

Tell you what. You see whatever you want to see. I think I made my point here.

[DPG21920]

Allanon: Post a phony annotated picture, and ask if Artest flopped.
Nono: Video posted.
Allanon: Since there's no actual picture of Kobe's elbow on Artest throat, it didn't happen.
Nono: Photo posted.
Allanon: Kobe is tippy toeing on his left foot!
Nono: Video posted with better angle.
Allanon: Kobe is not facing forward!

I mean, really?

Tell you what. You see whatever you want to see. I think I made my point here.

That is Allanon in a nutshell when arguing. It is ridiculous the logic he follows.

[DPG21920]

Obviously you can see the elbow in Ron's chest here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg

http://xjiro.com/open/oj-gloves.jpg

[Allanon]

Allanon: Post a phony annotated picture, and ask if Artest flopped.
Nono: Video posted.
Allanon: Since there's no actual picture of Kobe's elbow on Artest throat, it didn't happen.
Nono: Photo posted.
Allanon: Kobe is tippy toeing on his left foot!
Nono: Video posted with better angle.
Allanon: Kobe is not facing forward!

I mean, really?

Tell you what. You see whatever you want to see. I think I made my point here.

Thanks for admitting you don't have ANY picture of Kobe's elbow touching Ron's neck. Funny how such an obvious foul has no evidence from all angles. Maybe because it doesn't exist? :lol

All the little sheep have bought into Artest's throat flop, but Stu Jackson sees the evidence himself.

Don't worry, Kobe won't get suspended because an elbow to the neck is an automatic suspension and nothing shows him elbowing Ron in the neck.

Elbow to the chest, sure. Neck, no.

You got it correct when you said this:



striking Artest on his upper chest, just above the "R" on Artest's Rockets jersey"

EDIT: Just saw the news, no Suspension on Kobe...no contact above the shoulders. :toast

Suspensions only occur when the elbow is above the shoulders (ie. to the neck/head)

EDIT: Quote from ESPN:



Jackson also announced that the Lakers' Kobe Bryant has been assessed a flagrant foul one for elbowing Houston's Ron Artest in the chest area in the fourth quarter.

[Spursfan092120]

he didnt flop man...but the spurs fans are fired up cuz they are bored and already caught a buttload of fish
Got a long way to go to catch up to all the fish you've caught in the last 7 years though....

[Allanon]

That is Allanon in a nutshell when arguing. It is ridiculous the logic he follows.

Stu Jackson, the NBA, and I all have the same "ridiculous" logic and eyes. Thankyou.


Jackson also announced that the Lakers' Kobe Bryant has been assessed a flagrant foul one for elbowing Houston's Ron Artest in the chest area in the fourth quarter.

[TheMACHINE]

Allanon: 1
ElNino: 0

/thread

[DPG21920]

Stu Jackson, the NBA, and I all have the same "ridiculous" logic and eyes. Thankyou.

The same logic that did not suspend Rondo...Ya, priding yourself on having the same logic as the NBA. Self-Ownage.

[Allanon]

The same logic that did not suspend Rondo...Ya, priding yourself on having the same logic as the NBA. Self-Ownage.

From a Rocketfan himself, hates the Lakers with a passion:

Just fine Kobe 25K and move on. The elbow was thrown yes. Was it high enough? No. If it were 4 inches higher and hit him in the head, throw the bum out.

Indazone has more invested in this series but even he's able to man up and admit what he sees.

Unlike you and ElNono

:lol

/thread

[ElNono]

Tell you what. You see whatever you want to see. I think I made my point here.

[DPG21920]

From a Rocketfan himself, hates the Lakers with a passion:


Indazone has more invested in this series but even he's able to man up and admit what he sees.

Unlike you and ElNono

:lol

/thread

I agreed with Indazone, so what is your point again? You are acting like I said he should be suspended.

[Allanon]

I agreed with Indazone, so what is your point again? You are acting like I said he should be suspended.

You said Kobe hit Artest in the throat. He didn't.

Stu Jackson, the NBA, Indazone and a bunch of other posters agree, there was no throat contact...it was a hit to the chest. It was 4 inches too low to make throat contact.

And this is what I've been saying since page 1 and you guys just wouldn't listen.

[DPG21920]

You said Kobe hit Artest in the throat. He didn't.

Stu Jackson, the NBA, Indazone and a bunch of other posters agree, there was no throat contact...it was a hit to the chest. It was 4 inches too low to make throat contact.

And this is what I've been saying since page 1 and you guys just wouldn't listen.

I said clearly he hit him in the high chest/low throat area. Many people also agreed with me. Hubie Brown just said the same thing during the Cavs game.

[dirk4mvp]

Hubie Brown just said the same thing during the Cavs game.

Nothing's official until spurstalk's version chimes in.

[sook]

Open your eyes and look at the picture. Kobe's elbow is clearly NOT at Ron's neck while Ron's elbow is at Kobe's neck. :lol

no offense, if you are going to post it, don't post the frame of Kobe's elbow coming down. Post the entire GIF.

[Allanon]

It was right in the lower part of Ron's throat. It is clear.



Jackson also announced that the Lakers' Kobe Bryant has been assessed a flagrant foul one for elbowing Houston's Ron Artest in the chest area

http://www.garlandisd.net/news/articles/images/R_CarverGirlShhh.jpg

[DPG21920]

Does not disprove my point. It was a lot closer to the throat than the middle of the chest. Everyone can see the film, the pics and have seen it live. It was clear.

Just because it was not quite high enough to warrant a suspension does not mean it was not in the area.

[Allanon]

Does not disprove my point. It was a lot closer to the throat than the middle of the chest. Everyone can see the film, the pics and have seen it live. It was clear.

Just because it was not quite high enough to warrant a suspension does not mean it was not in the area.

Kicking a guy in the high thigh is close to the nutz, but still, it's a kick to the leg, not the nutz.

Kobe elbowed him in the chest, it was high, but it was still in the chest and not the throat.

No need to dramatize and make it seem worse.

[DPG21920]

You are saying absolutely that no part of Kobe's arm/elbow touched Ron's throat?

You are saying that you saw the elbow was there, but did not touch bc you saw a shadow correct?

[sook]

You can freeze it at any time and come up with a whole new story for every frame. The f act of the matter is that with a 2d photo with the positioning of the players, you don't hgave much depth perception.,

Stop with the nonsense and let it go. No one should have gotten suspended but it is utter nonsense that artest got called for the foul and ended up getting ejected.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

Ron Artest did not flop you clowns....PEACE

[Allanon]

You are saying absolutely that no part of Kobe's arm/elbow touched Ron's throat?

Don't take my word for it:

Stu Jackson's responsible for suspending Kobe on his elbow to Manu. Let's see what he thinks here. He's been known for being "excessive" in his punishments:


Jackson also announced that the Lakers' Kobe Bryant has been assessed a flagrant foul one for elbowing Houston's Ron Artest in the chest area

I also got these quotes from Clutchfans (the Rockets fan board):



he didnt throw an elbow above the shoulder so dont know what your complaint is.



Looks to me it was at the chest according to the espn video.

And if you read this thread here, there are quite a few people who are saying it's a chest hit as well:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125659&page=2

[DPG21920]

Hahah, you can clearly see there's no contact (there's a shadow under Kobe's elbow, Kobe's elbow is clearly not touching Ron's throat at all).

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

[Allanon]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

This was the play before the elbow. This was prior to Kobe's spin move and elbow.

As you can see by the shadow under Kobe's elbow, there is no contact with Kobe's elbow and Ron's neck. Ron's still looking happy as pie, obviously hasn't eaten the elbow yet.

All this picture shows is Ron Artest rooting Kobe with his knee. Kobe's on his tippy toes with no leverage...all the leverage is on Ron's side, as you can see with his two firmly planted feet.

[DPG21920]

You cannot see Ron's neck, where did it go? This was the elbow spin. Not prior. That was the play.

[angelbelow]

i doubt the elbow hurt artest, so in that respect you can say that he flopped.

[Allanon]

You cannot see Ron's neck, where did it go? This was the elbow spin. Not prior. That was the play.

Look at the video, how is that a spin? He still has his back to Artest in this picture.

Once Kobe completed his spin he was side to side with Artest, that's when he elbowed Artest in the chest. By the time the contact was made he was turned around and the elbow is at chest level.

Kobe's elbow went downwards, not upwards.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/753/elbowdesktop.gif

[DrHouse]

Ron flopped like a little girl. Pretending he got hit in the neck when anyone can clearly see by the replay he did not get hit in the neck.

His primadonna act cracks me up because it ended up with him getting tossed as usual. It was so funny to look at his face of disbelief as he got thrown out of another NBA game. I can only laugh at Ron, he entertains me to no end.

Wouldn't mind seeing him in P&G despite his craziness though.

[Rogbok]

To say that Artest got elbowed in the throat is nonsense. Though I do not think you can make a clear case that Ron's throat was not touched by any of Kobe's arm in the blow. Was this offense worthy of a suspension? I do not think so, but I also disagree with Ron being ejected. The foul call on Ron was correct and Ron should have received a T.

Now to say Ron threw a elbow at Kobe is incorrect. Yes Ron's elbow arm was in the area of Kobe's neck, but it was not a thrown elbow like Kobe's elbow to Ron. I am sure that the location of Ron's elbow is the reason he got called for the foul.

[Kobe_MVP]

Look at the video, how is that a spin? He still has his back to Artest in this picture.

Once Kobe completed his spin he was side to side with Artest, that's when he elbowed Artest in the chest. By the time the contact was made he was turned around and the elbow is at chest level.

Kobe's elbow went downwards, not upwards.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/753/elbowdesktop.gif


After seeing your posts on this site I understand why we lakerfans are so hated. I just registrated here to tell you other guys that not all lakerfans are this retarded. First of all I would like to comment this incident, I don't go against lakerplayers very often but both Fisher's cheapshot on Scola and elbow towards Ron made me disappointed of both of them.

And sure, Scola did some minor cheapshots in the game but that's just part of the game and Fisher's idiotic cheapshot on Scola messed up for us bigtime, Farmar stinks and Shannon ain't ready for this yet.

I think it was a good thing Kobe didn't get suspended for the elbow because it wasn't a flagrant-2 kind of play, at least not in my mind, I may be biased, who knows... But these so-called "lakersfans" on this site are just bandwagon-dorks and real lakersfans are ashamed of them, we don't want anything to do with them, AT ALL.

And finally, YES, Ron got elbowed on his throat... I think it's pathetic that you, Allanon even can't watch basketball without being so biased and trying to show that you have a case by posting a picture that doesn't even show the incident. PLEASE, CHEER FOR ANOTHER TEAM! We Lakerfans are better than you..

GO LAKERS AND GO BLACK MAMBA! :lobt2:

[Allanon]

GO LAKERS AND GO BLACK MAMBA! :lobt2:

Nice touch with the "Go Black Mamba"...what's your REAL favorite team? :lol

[Allanon]

We Lakerfans are better than you..


Hahah "Kobe_MVP"

I bet I can prove you as a fake Laker fan, in 5 questions, let's play:

Question #1: How long have you been a Laker fan?

[Imposter Cleaner]

Hahah "Kobe_MVP"

I bet I can prove you as a fake Laker fan, in 5 questions, let's play:

Question #1: How long have you been a Laker fan?
fake Faker fan :lmao, then he should be a real fan according to the rule of double negative equels positive.

[jbspurs]

[QUOTE=Allanon;3374102]No, I see it myself, Kobe elbow Ron in the chest, it's right here. What I'm saying is he didn't hit him in the throat as Ron claims.

Ron flopped his "throat hit" (it was a chest hit) and all you fish bought it hook line and sinker.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/reflexx/throat.jpg


Fish was thrown out and got suspended.:toast

[Kobe_MVP]

Hahah "Kobe_MVP"

I bet I can prove you as a fake Laker fan, in 5 questions, let's play:

Question #1: How long have you been a Laker fan?

Jackass, I've been a lakerfan since 98. That's 10 years more than you.

[Allanon]

Jackass, I've been a lakerfan since 98. That's 10 years more than you.

Excellent.

Question #2: Who are your 5 favorite Laker players?

[Behrooz24]

Kobe's elbow went downwards, not upwards.



Are you fucking blind?!

[Allanon]

Are you fucking blind?!

Are you fucking stupid?!

[Kobe_MVP]

Excellent.

Question #2: Who are your 5 favorite Laker players?

All-time: Mychal Thompson, Jabbar, Magic, Shaq and Kobe.

And how the hell are you to question me being a lakerfan, you are pathetic. Even lakerfans think you suck. But just to shut you up, fake-lakerfan I'll answer your bs-questions.

[Allanon]

All-time: Mychal Thompson, Jabbar, Magic, Shaq and Kobe.

And how the hell are you to question me being a lakerfan, you are pathetic. Even lakerfans think you suck. But just to shut you up, fake-lakerfan I'll answer your bs-questions.

That''s an impressive list, you're surely a die hard Laker fan. Props, bro. :bking

Question #3: Do you post on Laker forums?

[Kobe_MVP]

That''s an impressive list, you're surely a die hard Laker fan. Props, bro. :bking

Question #3: Do you post on Laker forums?

I've been reading posts on lakersground for years but I stopped last season after bandwagons like you joined.

[Allanon]

I've been reading posts on lakersground for years but I stopped last season after bandwagons like you joined.

READING Posts for years at Lakersground?

I knew it. Just another butt-fucking troll :lol:lol

[Kobe_MVP]

READING Posts for years at Lakersground?

I knew it. :lol:lol

Oh, so you can't be a true lakerfan if you don't post on lakersground? Half of the guys are bandwagons there and I bet you didn't post there after Shaq left and we went back to sucking.... Half of guys on lakersground are bandwagons and not real fans, I bet that half of the guys there have no idea about who guys like Mychal, Cooper and Wilkes were...

[Allanon]

Oh, so you can't be a true lakerfan if you don't post on lakersground?

Ok butt-fucker troll, let me educate you:
1) You are not an American
2) You are not a Laker fan

a) You have been a Laker fan for 11 years
b) You named a list of all-time greats
c) You hate bandwagoners

But

You have NEVER posted on a Lakers forum. But all of a sudden, you get so angry with a Laker fan like me you had to REGISTER and post on a SPURS FORUM.

11 year Lakers fan couldn't post on a Laker board but had to respond to 1 troll on a Spurs forum?

Go Black Mamba!!!!!!

Hahahahahhahah. :lmao:lmao

[Kobe_MVP]

Ok butt-fucker troll, let me educate you:
1) You are not an American
2) You are not a Laker fan

a) You have been a Laker fan for 11 years
b) You named a list of all-time greats
c) You hate bandwagoners

But

You have NEVER posted on a Lakers forum. But all of a sudden, you get so angry with a Laker fan like me you had to REGISTER and post on a SPURS FORUM.

11 year Lakers fan?

Go Black Mamba!!!!!!

Hahahahahhahah.

You really make sense. To be a lakerfan according to you, you must be a poster on lakersground and you must be from the States. And who the hell do you want me mention as my fav? I don't know many guys cheering for guys like Mike Smrek... I got mad because you make real lakerfans like me look like crap, first of all, you don't know basketball, and then to the fact that you're the most biased and biggest bandwagonfan ever. Tell me, you're 11 and you started to watch the Lakers last year after they made it to the finals...

[Allanon]

You really make sense. To be a lakerfan according to you, you must be a poster on lakersground and you must be from the States. And who the hell do you want me mention as my fav? I don't know many guys cheering for guys like Mike Smrek... I got mad because you make real lakerfans like me look like crap, first of all, you don't know basketball, and then to the fact that you're the most biased and biggest bandwagon ever. Tell me, you're 11 and you started to watch the Lakers last year after they made it to the finals...

Stop being a liar fake Laker fan, are you Chinese?

In fact, I am betting that you are:

Rogue (http://spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14710) aka Imposter Cleaner (http://spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16664)

[Greg Oden]

Uh, so Allanon, are you going to tell him when you started rooting for the Lakers?

[Kobe_MVP]

Stop being a liar fake Laker fan, are you Chinese?

In fact, I am betting that you are:

Rogue (http://spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14710) aka Imposter Cleaner (http://spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16664)

You don't make sense at all, your "5 questions" were just terrible and you didn't prove shit. And the only reason I'm a fake-fan is because I don't post on lakersground? But your bandwagon-ass is cool, right? Dude, instead of bitching and trying to convince others that you're right you should get a life, why have you posted 5000 posts on a spurs-fansite? Are you really that lonely that you need to start beefs with people on the net and make us real fans look like shit to feel good? Get some friends and do something else, you ain't a fan because of the love for the sport and the team, you're a fan because you're so lonely and this is the only thing that makes you feel important, beefing with people on internet. Very cool.

[Allanon]

You don't make sense at all, your "5 questions" were just terrible and you didn't prove shit. And the only reason I'm a fake-fan is because I don't post on lakersground? But your bandwagon-ass is cool, right? Dude, instead of bitching and trying to convince others that you're right you should get a life, why have you posted 5000 posts on a spurs-fansite? Are you really that lonely that you need to start beefs with people on the net and make us real fans look like shit to feel good? Get some friends and do something else, you ain't a fan because of the love for the sport and the team, you're a fan because you're so lonely and this is the only thing that makes you feel important, beefing with people on internet. Very cool.

We can ask the moderators of this forum if you are Rogue or Imposter Cleaner. Do you want to Chinese fake Laker troll?

:lmao

[Kobe_MVP]

We can ask the moderators of this forum if you are Rogue or Imposter Cleaner. Do you want to?

Yes, please do so.

[Allanon]

Yes, please do so.

You are Chinese aren't you butt-fucker?

[Kobe_MVP]

You are Chinese aren't you butt-fucker?

Where do you want this conversation to go? You're full of shit, I'm not a lakerfan because I don't post on lakersground and because I'm not american but your pathetic, lonely bandwagon-ass makes you a fan?

[Allanon]

Where do you want this conversation to go? You're full of shit, I'm not a lakerfan because I don't post on lakersground and because I'm not american but your pathetic, lonely bandwagon-ass makes you a fan?

Are you Chinese?

[angelbelow]

You are Chinese aren't you butt-fucker?

bro, just ignored the fucker. its not worth wasting your time.

[Kobe_MVP]

Are you Chinese?

European.

[Allanon]

bro, just ignored the fucker. its not worth wasting your time.

:toast

[Kobe_MVP]

:toast

I gave it to you, take that lakerpic away from your profile. I understand you now but you gotta understand that trying to beef with people on the internet doesn't give you any friends. A lakerfan posting 5000+ posts on a spurfansite? C'mon, you're lonely, you just want to interact with people and this is not about basketball really, am I right? You're only out after getting in touch with people which is ok but don't claim that you're a lakerfan, you're just a pathetic, lonely bum without any life or friends...

[Allanon]

I gave it to you, take that lakerpic away from your profile. I understand you now but you gotta understand that trying to beef with people on the internet doesn't give you any friends. A lakerfan posting 5000+ posts on a spurfansite? C'mon, you're lonely, you just want to interact with people and this is not about basketball really, am I right? You're only out after getting in touch with people which is ok but don't claim that you're a lakerfan, you're just a pathetic, lonely bum without any life or friends...

Hahah, you are pathetic fake troll.

11 years as a Laker fan but not even 1 post on a Laker forum.

But here on a Spurs forum, you have 11 posts already bashing another Laker fan :lmao

Go Black Mamba!!!

[Kobe_MVP]

Hahah, you are pathetic fake troll.

11 years as a Laker fan but not even 1 post on a Laker forum.

But here on a Spurs forum, you have 11 posts already bashing another Laker fan :lmao

Go Black Mamba!!!

Lol, ofc I'm not a lakerfan but sure thing I have a life. You don't, in 1 year you have posted almost 6000 posts and you're one of the reasons why people HATE lakerfans. How lonely are you, seriously? Don't you have anything to do beside sitting in front of the computer day-in and out and posting about a basketball-team? You really don't seem to be about basketball really, you're one of those internet-thugs who irl are lonely as hell and only get in touch with people on the net.

Clutchfans, BABY!

[Allanon]

Lol, ofc I'm not a lakerfan

Clutchfans, BABY!

Thankyou, baby. :toast

[Kobe_MVP]

Thankyou, baby. :toast

How do I change my fav.team?
And hopefully Kobe plays like a man in the next game...

[Allanon]

How do I change my fav.team?

I don't think you can change it anymore. I think too many people kept changing their team so the mods stopped it.



And hopefully Kobe plays like a man in the next game...

I agree. I want a good game from ALL players...both Rockets and Lakers.

[Imposter Cleaner]

We can ask the moderators of this forum if you are Rogue or Imposter Cleaner. Do you want to Chinese fake Laker troll?

:lmao
Yeah Rogue and me are actually the same person, either of us can easily fuck your shrivelled ass up though.

[Indazone]

Fuck you the last piece of panda shit, your wasting your english skills on the forum bitch. You should have found a job as a translator in china which is a country filled with dumbasses and idiots that can only make pieces of noise when they try speaking english.:ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban:

[Allanon]

Yeah Rogue and me are actually the same person, either of us can easily fuck your shrivelled ass up though.

Hahah you dumbshit little pussy.

Your trolls are pathetic, it's not hard to see the same fucktard is in both your trolls.

[Imposter Cleaner]

I don't think you can change it anymore. I think too many people kept changing their team so the mods stopped it.



I agree. I want a good game from ALL players...both Rockets and Lakers.
Yeah you are just wanting to change your team to Thunder, but our team doesn't accept idiots like you the last piece of shit. You is a fucking idiot, the only thing you can fucking do is just making fucking pointless jokes on other posters while fucking your mom, if you fucking have got one.

[Allanon]

Yeah you are just wanting to change your team to Thunder, but our team doesn't accept idiots like you the last piece of shit. You is a fucking idiot, the only thing you can fucking do is just making fucking pointless jokes on other posters while fucking your mom, if you fucking have got one.

Did I tell you I fucked your mom in the ear last night?

[Imposter Cleaner]

:ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban:
You are a fucking piece of shit too.

[Imposter Cleaner]

Did I tell you I fucked your mom in the ear last night?

Yeah your dick is quite fit for the ear hole, a common vagina is too big for your shrivelled dick.

[Allanon]

Yeah your dick is quite fit for the ear hole, a common vagina is too big for your shrivelled dick.

Yeah, your mom's ear is fucking tight, a little crusty with dirt crumbs but nice.

[Imposter Cleaner]

Hahah you dumbshit little pussy.

Your trolls are pathetic, it's not hard to see the same fucktard is in both your trolls.
Sorry I'm not something you always want to thrust your fucking dick into.

[Allanon]

Sorry I'm not something you always want to thrust your fucking dick into.

No, not you but got damn, your slutty Mom's ear is nice.

I was like drilling her ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"

[Imposter Cleaner]

Yeah, your mom's ear is fucking tight, a little crusty with dirt crumbs but nice.
I wonder how you crawled out of your mom's ear while your mom was working her ovaries off giving birth to you the fucking cattle.

[Allanon]

I wonder how you crawled out of your mom's ear while your mom was working her ovaries off giving birth to you the fucking cattle.

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."

[Indazone]

Why don't you two get a room already and do each other.

[Imposter Cleaner]

No, not you but got damn, your slutty Mom's ear is nice.

I was like drilling her ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
But your dick can only eject some urine, because it's shrivelled and not able to spew out anything alse.

[Allanon]

But your dick can only eject some urine, because it's shrivelled and not able to spew out anything alse.


I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"

[Imposter Cleaner]

Why don't you two get a room already and do each other.
Good idea, lets go there. I'm waiting there now.

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
You could speak? I'm afraid my mom didn't even get what you said because of your poor pronunciations.

[Allanon]

You could speak? I'm afraid my mom didn't even get what you said because of your poor pronounciations.

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
awesome, you are a novelist.

[Allanon]

awesome, you are a novelist.

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
No one likes Laker fans, why didn't you just choose Rockets bandwagon as long as you are a chinese basketball fan?

[Allanon]

awesome, you are a novelist.

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
You may as well put your novel into chinese words and translate them with google, that would make more sense than your own words do.

[Allanon]

You may as well put your novel into chinese words and translate them with google, that would make more sense than your own words do.

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
Hahaha, hilarious. I have got to book your golden words.

[Allanon]

Hahaha, hilarious. I have got to book your golden words.

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
Try yahoo.

[Allanon]

Try yahoo.


I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi
Almost the same.

[Allanon]

Almost the same.


I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi
Then she asked me again "Are you cumming?" and I thought WTF? Squi, squish squish. I said "YES BABY!!!, I'm cumming"

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi
Then she asked me again "Are you cumming?" and I thought WTF? Squi, squish squish. I said "YES BABY!!!, I'm cumming"
To be continued.

[Allanon]

To be continued.


I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi
Then she asked me again "Are you cumming?" and I thought WTF? Squi, squish squish. I said "YES BABY!!!, I'm cumming"
Man, this dirty whore was good and had a tight ear so I was really starting to cum.
And she asked me AGAIN "Are you cumming?"

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi
Then she asked me again "Are you cumming?" and I thought WTF? Squi, squish squish. I said "YES BABY!!!, I'm cumming"
Man, this dirty whore was good and had a tight ear so I was really starting to cum.
And she asked me AGAIN "Are you cumming?"
I expect the next chapter.

[Allanon]

I expect the next chapter.

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi
Then she asked me again "Are you cumming?" and I thought WTF? Squi, squish squish. I said "YES BABY!!!, I'm cumming"
Man, this dirty whore was good and had a tight ear so I was really starting to cum.
And she asked me AGAIN "Are you cumming?"
So now I was pissed, so I just slapped her and said STFU! Then I came and blew a load of warm jizz in your mom's ear.

I came so hard, it flew out of her other ear.

[Imposter Cleaner]

I was like drilling your mom's ear, and she kept saying "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "Oh baby, baby, your ear is fucking tight. You're such a fucking slut."
And she said it again "Allanon, Allanon!"
So I said "What baby, what do you want?"
Her eye was all glazed over, I knew she was loving my big black dick in her ear.
I could hear my black dick going in and out of your mom's ear, in and out, squish, squish, squish, squish.

Your mom asked me, "Are you cumming?"...squish, squish, squish
I said, "Oh yes, baby, I'm about to cum"
I was pounding your mom's ear so hard, I think I might have poked her eardrum..squi, squi, squi, squi
Then she asked me again "Are you cumming?" and I thought WTF? Squi, squish squish. I said "YES BABY!!!, I'm cumming"
Man, this dirty whore was good and had a tight ear so I was really starting to cum.
And she asked me AGAIN "Are you cumming?"
So now I was pissed, so I just slapped her and said STFU! Then I came and blew a load of warm jizz in your mom's ear.

I came so hard, it flew out of her other ear.
Thanks, your novel works much better than sleeping pills do. Now I have got to go sleeping, later.

[Allanon]

Thanks, your novel works much better than sleeping pills do. Now I have got to go sleeping, later.

Good night baby.

[stretch]

lame

[Spur-Addict]

This, is sad.

[Randy]

lame
Pow!

[Allanon]

Yup, gotta agree with you guys, those trolls were pretty weak.

I toldja it was a flop, yet people still are sheep and believe everything a player says.

Owned every one of them...they never learn :lmao

[DPG21920]

Kobe's arm is pointed upward, the reason you cannot see his arm is bc Artest is not a window. You are being pretty pathetic right now.

By the way, once again, Ron got called for a foul, so what is your point? Kobe retaliated by throwing a bow (which he has been suspended for numerous times).


It was right in the lower part of Ron's throat. It is clear. There is only like 5 inches between the top of a logo and the bottom part of the throat.


The Rockets wear v-neck jerseys, if you hit a guy on the jersey, it's obviously not on the neck.



Look at where the R in Rockets is, that's nowhere near the fully exposed neck.

http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2008-w51/img.444568_t.jpg


The camera showed the elbow landing clearly above the logo. Maybe not the entire elbow, but a portion of the arm was in the throat region.


http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png

Game Over.


Hahah, maybe Kobe hit Artest with a shadow? You can clearly see his elbow is NOT touching the throat, only chest.

There's no contact with the throat in your picture. :lol

Look at Ron's face, he looks perfectly happy in your picture, a bit too happy for somebody hit in the throat? :lol


Upperchest, lower throat same region. That is like saying "I hit him in the jaw, not the face".

Clinging to semantics is what is funny. You cannot see Ron's throat in that picture can you? Where did it go?


Upper chest and throat are the same region? That's like saying I punched him in the face, not the throat. Two separate areas.

The chest can take a helluva lot more pounding than the throat.



Hahah, you can clearly see there's no contact (there's a shadow under Kobe's elbow, Kobe's elbow is clearly not touching Ron's throat at all).

This is a picture of Artest clearly fouling Kobe, not the other way around. Just look at how high off the ground both Kobe's feet are while Artest's feet are fully planted :lol

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9108/picture2fhb.png


Does the chest not flow into the throat? Like I said, part of his arm hit his upper chest, part his throat.


And the chest all flows into the nutz. I guess you could say Kobe elbowed him in the nutz too :lol


Owned.

[Allanon]

Don't just Allanon (he's just a biased Laker fan), ask Mr. Stu Jackson, NBA displinary head man.



NBA executive vice president Stu Jackson just said on a conference call with reporters that the key element in not suspending Kobe Bryant for his elbow to Ron Artest was that it landed “in the chest area.”

“Certainly, it’s clear in our rules that we treat elbow contact above the shoulder area differently than we do other parts of the body,” Jackson said, although he didn’t specifically say Bryant would’ve been suspended if the contact had been higher.

[DPG21920]

We were not agruing him being suspended. We were arguing your short bus logic. I clearly said over and over and over that is was the upper chest/lower throat region. I said it is dumb for Phil to complain when he has a dirty player like Kobe.

I said Kobe's dirty play on Shane was just as bad and did not get anything. You said this sounds like your Ron Artest elbow argument and I said you sounded like an idiot there as well.

I win. You proved my point exactly. "Even if you lose you can sweep; throat is to chest as throat is to nutz" - Allanon author of 75 win ecstasy.